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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #175 on: April 05, 2023, 04:17:14 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 05, 2023, 04:11:25 pm
I luv ya @catfish1957 ... and ask in friendship that you leave me the hell out of this specious, nonsensical argument.  I have made both my
opinions and the reasons for them as clear as I can. 

It's enough.

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Fair enough.  :beer:  Sometimes we just have agree to disagree.  And in friendship, I will always consider you my partner in documenting  the '20 steal that night.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #176 on: April 05, 2023, 08:05:49 pm »
I suppose Levin has the same right as any of the rest of us to convince people to support his preferred candidate.

But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument.  It's basically letting the Democrats choose our nominee.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #177 on: April 05, 2023, 09:02:06 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #178 on: April 05, 2023, 09:03:37 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 05, 2023, 04:17:14 pm
Fair enough.  :beer:  Sometimes we just have agree to disagree.  And in friendship, I will always consider you my partner in documenting  the '20 steal that night.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #179 on: April 05, 2023, 09:09:00 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 05, 2023, 08:05:49 pm

But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument.

Except that's not his argument. 

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https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1643457005632233474



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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #180 on: April 05, 2023, 10:26:45 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 05, 2023, 08:05:49 pm
I suppose Levin has the same right as any of the rest of us to convince people to support his preferred candidate.

But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument.  It's basically letting the Democrats choose our nominee.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #181 on: April 06, 2023, 01:01:32 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 05, 2023, 10:26:45 pm
@Maj. Bill Martin

Like it or not,it is also the truth.

It's an opinion, not a fact, so it isn't either true or false.  Either way, it doesn't persuade me personally, and I won't vote for Trump under any circumstances.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #182 on: April 06, 2023, 01:07:14 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 05, 2023, 09:09:00 pm
Except that's not his argument. 

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https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1643457005632233474
. Sure it is.

Levin also is making the same mistake as do so many others - they confuse intent and rhetoric with effectiveness.  They like the message Trump sends, so they think he should be supported.  The problem is that he doesn't understand how the government actually works, is too easily fooled/baited by the left, and is terrible at selecting key subordinates.  All the right sentiments in the world are worthless if you lack the ability to implement them properly.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #183 on: April 06, 2023, 01:27:35 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 06, 2023, 01:07:14 am
. Sure it is.

Levin makes the same mistake as do so many others - they confuse intent and rhetoric with effectiveness.  They like the message Trump sends, so they think he should be supported.  The problem is that he doesn't understand how the government actually works...

Bullshit.

American voters remember the four years of our strength on the world stage, peace, prosperity, energy independence, borders under control and a spine of steel ----- courtesy of Donald J. Trump.

The problem for you is:  We want him back.




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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #184 on: April 06, 2023, 01:43:13 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on April 06, 2023, 01:27:35 am
Bullshit.

American voters remember the four years of our strength on the world stage, peace, prosperity, energy independence, borders under control and a spine of steel ----- courtesy of Donald J. Trump.

Trump did some good things, no question.  But his flaws also meant that he failed badly at other things that were critical, and at which he should have been able to succeed if he wasn't such a...Trump.

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The problem for you is:  We want him back.

Fair enough.   I don't want him to be the GOP nominee, so obviously I'd prefer it if others didn't.   So you could say that's a "problem" for me. But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.

Feel free to bookmark this and taunt me with it if I'm wrong.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #185 on: April 06, 2023, 01:48:40 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 06, 2023, 01:43:13 am

But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #186 on: April 06, 2023, 02:29:48 am »
Trump wins one poll

Democrats are winning elections
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #187 on: April 06, 2023, 02:35:59 am »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 06, 2023, 01:43:13 am
Trump did some good things, no question.  But his flaws also meant that he failed badly at other things that were critical, and at which he should have been able to succeed if he wasn't such a...Trump.

Fair enough.   I don't want him to be the GOP nominee, so obviously I'd prefer it if others didn't.   So you could say that's a "problem" for me. But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.

Feel free to bookmark this and taunt me with it if I'm wrong.

The MAGA belief is things will get so bad that the voters will pull the lever for Trump no matter what. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to stake another election on that.

I didn’t think the term MAGA Republican would matter in 2022 because of voter dissatisfaction with Biden but I was wrong. And it’s still working
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #188 on: April 06, 2023, 03:34:18 am »
Quote from: LMAO on April 06, 2023, 02:29:48 am
Trump wins one poll

Democrats are winning elections
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #189 on: April 06, 2023, 03:57:37 am »
Quote from: LMAO on April 06, 2023, 02:35:59 am
The MAGA belief is things will get so bad that the voters will pull the lever for Trump no matter what. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to stake another election on that.

To me, that logic is dependent upon Biden being the nominee, which I still believe is unlikely in the end.  They'll run someone younger, and age will be an issue.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #190 on: April 06, 2023, 05:26:12 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 05, 2023, 10:26:45 pm
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Like it or not,it is also the truth.

LOL!

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #191 on: April 06, 2023, 03:38:13 pm »
MAGA

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #192 on: April 06, 2023, 03:42:20 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #193 on: April 06, 2023, 03:48:41 pm »
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lol...and quoting a former briefer.... "Top Notch"
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #194 on: April 06, 2023, 03:52:50 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on April 06, 2023, 03:57:37 am
To me, that logic is dependent upon Biden being the nominee, which I still believe is unlikely in the end.  They'll run someone younger, and age will be an issue.

RFK Jr. just put his hat in the ring....much younger.  Whether or not the Kennedy name these days will carry him is unlikely.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #195 on: April 06, 2023, 03:56:05 pm »
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RFK Jr. just put his hat in the ring....much younger.  Whether or not the Kennedy name these days will carry him is unlikely.

There's a lot more optics in this day of poltics over substance.  I can see his voice alone grating dim primary voters.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #196 on: April 06, 2023, 04:01:35 pm »
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.@Reuters:  "Donald Trump remains the Republican party favorite for the 2024 presidential primary despite a criminal indictment. Ron DeSantis' support has weakened since our last poll.”

Trump: 48
Desantis: 19

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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #197 on: April 06, 2023, 04:05:49 pm »
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.@Reuters:  "Donald Trump remains the Republican party favorite for the 2024 presidential primary despite a criminal indictment. Ron DeSantis' support has weakened since our last poll.”

Trump: 48
Desantis: 19

2:29 PM · Apr 5, 2023

Agree.  Unless something drastically happens in the dynamics of this race.  It's over.
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
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Re: LIVE THREAD...Trump Surrenders
« Reply #199 on: April 06, 2023, 04:07:43 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 06, 2023, 04:05:49 pm
Agree.  Unless something drastically happens in the dynamics of this race.  It's over.

Trump will never be acquitted, I'd say that's pretty drastic. 
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