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Racist fake clergyman tweets:Where has the child's skintone been reported? I certainly had no idea whether he was black, white or anything else. This idiot's tweet was the first time I saw any reference to it.

But without know anything about the child's ethnicity, I read a great many comments about holding the parent(s) responsible for permitting access to the weapon. This guy is such a freakin' liar and phony.
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" School administrators admitted that Richneck Elementary School knew the first grader who shot his teacher had been accused of having a gun in his backpack earlier that day and had searched the little boy’s bag but not found the weapon."
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I'm wondering if whoever searched the backpack actually FOUND the gun.

But then -- perhaps considering the kid's ethnicity and the consequences of "punishing" him -- the person put it back, and told him to leave it there until he got home...

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I'm wondering if whoever searched the backpack actually FOUND the gun.

But then -- perhaps considering the kid's ethnicity and the consequences of "punishing" him -- the person put it back, and told him to leave it there until he got home...
I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian. What rational adult is going to trust that a 6-7 year old is okay to carry a loaded pistol for any length of time? Are they hoping that another student won't see it by accident? Heck Alec Baldwin is 64 years old and I wouldn't trust him with a gun for a minute.
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"According to an above  comment the student was caucasian"

I seriously, seriously doubt the veracity of "the comment" to which you refer.

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Handgun used by 6-year-old who shot teacher was secured with trigger lock and ‘out of reach’ on closet shelf, attorney says

Richneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia. (Jay Paul/Getty Images/TNS)
JANUARY 21, 2023 PETER DUJARDIN - DAILY PRESS

The 9 mm handgun a 6-year-old student used to shoot a teacher at Richneck Elementary School was secured with a trigger lock and kept out of the boy’s reach at the family’s Newport News home, according to an attorney representing the child’s mother.

On Thursday, the boy’s family issued its first public comments since the Jan. 6 shooting, expressing sympathy for 25-year-old teacher who was wounded and disclosing that the boy suffers from “an acute disability” and was under a specialized care plan at school.

The family’s statement said the gun was secured.

“Our family has always been committed to responsible gun ownership and keeping firearms out of the reach of children,” the statement said.

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They need to get some paranormal investigators in there.  Ghosts or spirits are the only explanation for the kid having a handgun so inaccessible. :whistle:
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I doubt this is true.
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secured with a trigger lock and kept out of the boy’s reach
More or less.  :pondering:
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I keep hearing about how guns commit crimes. This must be what happened. /s

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Link:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-of-6-year-old-who-shot-teacher-releases-statement-says-gun-was-secure/ar-AA16wEFY

It took 15 days for a parent to come forward with this 'safe gun storage' story?
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Link:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/family-of-6-year-old-who-shot-teacher-releases-statement-says-gun-was-secure/ar-AA16wEFY

It took 15 days for a parent to come forward with this 'safe gun storage' story?
It might have taken that long to get through the usual media filters.

Those trigger locks can be defeated https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Video+hacking+padlocks, and I don't know many kids who aren't capable of climbing to get anything they really want to. There was a time in my house when every vertical piece of furniture (bookcases, etc.) was screwed to the floor and the wall so it would not tip over, because sooner or later, despite punishments, temptation would win out.
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Did they forget to include the part about how the magazine/ammunition was kept in a totally separate location from the gun and also the the key to the trigger lock? I believe this malarkey as much as the schools story that they searched the kids backpack and found nothing.

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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire: report
By Matthew Sedacca   
January 21, 2023 1:55pm

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.  ... NY Post

Gee, I remember when the racist "Bishop" Talbert Swan told us the child was white.
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Much more likely the gun was laying out in the open, fully loaded and chambered.
It is more than doubtful that the kid would know how to load the weapon, chamber a round, release the safety and fire.
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Racist fake clergyman tweets:Where has the child's skintone been reported? I certainly had no idea whether he was black, white or anything else. This idiot's tweet was the first time I saw any reference to it.

But without know anything about the child's ethnicity, I read a great many comments about holding the parent(s) responsible for permitting access to the weapon. This guy is such a freakin' liar and phony.

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I have been assuming all along that the shooter was a black boy.

Mostly because there are no photos or film of any of his relatives protesting his arrest or any media releases  stating he is white.

Also,who commits the most murders in the US,black people or white people?
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I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian.

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I just posted he is black,and this was based on who does the most shootings in the US.

This is just a guess,though.

So is the statement that he is white.

AFAIK,his race and name have never been revealed.


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I do not understand that comment. According to an above  comment the student was caucasian. What rational adult is going to trust that a 6-7 year old is okay to carry a loaded pistol for any length of time? Are they hoping that another student won't see it by accident? Heck Alec Baldwin is 64 years old and I wouldn't trust him with a gun for a minute.
Right. Even back in the day when we brought firearms to school for 'Show and Tell', they were kept in the Principal's office until time came to show them, and again until it was time to go home.
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I have been assuming all along that the shooter was a black boy.

Mostly because there are no photos or film of any of his relatives protesting his arrest or any media releases  stating he is white.

Also,who commits the most murders in the US,black people or white people?
Might want to specify "Firearm murders", there. Fauci and the Medical Cabal have really skewed those results (even though they'll likely never even be charged).
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Cyber wrote:
"I doubt this is true"

Agreed.

How else did the kid get the gun, withOUT a trigger lock on it?

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Re reply 8 above.

Like I said in the other thread:
This one is "bad seed".

As such, needs to be... removed.

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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire: report
By Matthew Sedacca   
January 21, 2023 1:55pm

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.  ... NY Post

Gee, I remember when the racist "Bishop" Talbert Swan told us the child was white.
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Much more likely the gun was laying out in the open, fully loaded and chambered.
It is more than doubtful that the kid would know how to load the weapon, chamber a round, release the safety and fire.
Although it is likely the gun was not secured, it is not doubtful at all if the kid had seen it often enough that the kid would be able to load it place it in battery and disengage the safety (if there was one engaged).

Kids pick things up by watching, and some do so very well. If this kid had a 'thing' for the teacher, he'd have been paying close attention to how to work the gun.
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He doesn't look white, is all I'm saying, the faux bishop's protestations notwithstanding.
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I had the privilege of sandhill crane hunting this morning with a 10 year old kid.  The little guy was an absolute beast knocking down the birds.  It was great seeing his respect for the gun and for everyone around him. It gives you faith in the kids coming up...

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Might want to specify "Firearm murders", there. Fauci and the Medical Cabal have really skewed those results (even though they'll likely never even be charged).

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True dat,but we all know the professional medical establishment is never going to get blamed for anything.
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Looks like the pic of the kid may have been "scrubbed" -- for now.
Hopefully someone got it as a screen capture. For "proof".

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Although it is likely the gun was not secured, it is not doubtful at all if the kid had seen it often enough that the kid would be able to load it place it in battery and disengage the safety (if there was one engaged).

Kids pick things up by watching, and some do so very well. If this kid had a 'thing' for the teacher, he'd have been paying close attention to how to work the gun.

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How many hundreds of times do you think the typical elementary school kid has seen people pick up a semi-auto and chamber a round on teebee?
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Cyber wrote:
"I doubt this is true"

Agreed.

How else did the kid get the gun, withOUT a trigger lock on it?

Now picture a 6-year-old kid chambering a 9mm round in a Taurus....
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???? What have I ever done to you to be treated like that?
I think perhaps you were being recognized for identifying the shooter's ethnicity early on.
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???? What have I ever done to you to be treated like that?
It's a compliment, actually.
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How many hundreds of times do you think the typical elementary school kid has seen people pick up a semi-auto and chamber a round on teebee?
Probably just shy of a zillion. Heck, they even jack the action on teebee when they don't need to (didn't reload, and they do it with pump shotguns, too). (But you don't see that round allegedly in the chamber go flying off, wasted). That beeyoww sound when someone gets hit is all wrong, too...
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Much more likely the gun was laying out in the open, fully loaded and chambered.
It is more than doubtful that the kid would know how to load the weapon, chamber a round, release the safety and fire.
Are you kidding me? Watch any 5 cop shows or action movies and you will see guns loaded and racked 15-20 times.
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Virginia boy who shot teacher Abigail Zwerner told another he wanted to set her on fire: report
By Matthew Sedacca   
January 21, 2023 1:55pm

A 6-year-old who shot his teacher allegedly told another educator he wanted to light her on fire and watch her die, according to a report.

Last month, the troubled boy nearly made good on his apparent murderous impulses, shooting first grader teacher Abigail Zwerner at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News., Va., officials have said. Zwerner survived.

Zwerner and other Richneck teachers said they had shared their fears about the child’s grave behavior with administrators, only to have their concerns downplayed or ignored, The Washington Post reported.  ... NY Post

Gee, I remember when the racist "Bishop" Talbert Swan told us the child was white.
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Thanks for finding and re-posting that, mystery.

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Maybe that is just a really,REALLY good tan?

BTW,when are we going to hear about the parents being arrested for allowing a minor child who is mentally disturbed access to a loaded gun?

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Maybe that is just a really,REALLY good tan?

BTW,when are we going to hear about the parents being arrested for allowing a minor child who is mentally disturbed access to a loaded gun?

"We iz da wurld........"

The "Mom" says the gun was unloaded, with a trigger lock, on a high shelf.  She's obviously of the same demographic of this innocent little boy, so we must believe her.  Or else.
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It's been since scrubbed from YT. buy I remember a clip of a black 3 y.o. toddler punching, swinging wildly, and throwing expleteives I didn't learn till age 10 to a responding white cop on a call.  Those traits are learned.

Recent history has taught these people  can genetically install violent racism tendencies into their descendants with no reprecussions.  And that is what I am guessing with a 99% chance what happened with this 6 year old.   I am also guessing we are going to see much of the proponents of St. George Floyd, the Patron Saint of Fentanyl act out until who knows when.  I predict many more of like these events yet  to come

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The "Mom" says the gun was unloaded, with a trigger lock, on a high shelf.  She's obviously of the same demographic of this innocent little boy, so we must believe her.  Or else.

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It's been since scrubbed from YT. buy I remember a clip of a black 3 y.o. toddler punching, swinging wildly, and throwing expleteives I didn't learn till age 10 to a responding white cop on a call.  Those traits are learned.

Recent history has taught these people  can genetically install violent racism tendencies into their descendants with no reprecussions.  And that is what I am guessing with a 99% chance what happened with this 6 year old.  I am also guessing we are going to see much of the proponents of St. George Floyd, the Patron Saint of Fentanyl act out until who knows when.  I predict many more of like these events yet  to come

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Until they come "ah knock,knock,knocking at MY door and demanding I come out and give them something".

Yes,INDEEDY I will come out and give them something,but it won't be something they will live to enjoy.

Same applies to any OTHER race of people that tried that crap,but we all know that no other race will do those things.
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Virginia teacher shot by student was aware he was armed an hour before shooting: Report
"When she needed help, no one was coming," source claims.
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Updated: January 25, 2023 - 2:24pm
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The Virginia teacher shot by one of her first-grade students during a class this month was reportedly aware he was armed an hour before the violent incident occurred, according to a media report.

Abigail Zwerner "texted a loved one before she was wounded that the boy was armed and that school officials were failing to act," a source reportedly told NBC News.

The teacher allegedly sent that message "about an hour before she was shot on Jan. 6," the network said.

It is unclear from NBC's report if Zwerner directly told school authorities about the gun prior to the incident, but the news network indicates that at least some school administrators may have been aware that the student was possibly armed.

In one case a teacher allegedly "told an administrator [that] the boy showed a student the gun at recess and 'threatened to shoot him if he told anybody'," Zwerner's lawyer Diane Toscano said, according to NBC.  ...
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She SHOULD have told the authorities that it was a white boy DISGUISED as  a black boy that was armed and making threats.

THEN they would have paid attention because they would be PROTECTING the "Master Race" instead of arresting one of it's members.
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Virginia teacher shot by student was aware he was armed an hour before shooting: Report
"When she needed help, no one was coming," source claims.
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The teacher will own the school district after this.  How awful they didn't help her.

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Virginia teacher shot by 6-year-old student to sue school district, alleging administrators were warned of gun

Fox News By Pilar Arias 1/25/2023

Lawyer for Abigail 'Abby' Zwerner announces lawsuit against Newport News, Virginia, school district

The Virginia teacher who was shot by a 6-year-old student during class plans to sue the school district, according to the teacher's attorney.

Diane Toscano, a lawyer for Abigail Zwerner, said Wednesday that on the day of the shooting, concerned teachers and employees warned administrators three times that the boy had a gun on him and was threatening other students, "but the administration could not be bothered."

The boy shot 25-year-old Zwerner with a handgun owned by his mother as she taught class at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News on Jan. 6.

More: https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-teacher-shot-by-6-year-old-student-to-sue-school-district