Trump Backs McCarthy for Speaker, Tells Opponents to Stand Down: ‘I Think He Deserves the Shot’

[Timber Rattler]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/16/exclusive-trump-backs-mccarthy-speaker-tells-opponents-stand-down-think-deserves-shot/

Former President Donald Trump told the conservatives currently withholding support from House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy in McCarthy’s speakership bid to stand down in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News here on Friday.

“I like him,” Trump said of McCarthy, before teeing off on those working against him such as Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Matt Rosendale (R-MT), Bob Good (R-VA), and Ralph Norman (R-SC). While Trump did not name those trying to stop McCarthy from taking the Speaker’s gavel on January 3, he in no uncertain terms said he disagrees with their efforts—and warned that there could be serious consequences if McCarthy does not get the gavel and they could make Washington worse for conservatives.

Trump’s interview came Friday morning here at his Doral golf resort in Miami and covered a broad range of topics including the Speakership race and much more.

Trump warned that when conservatives took out now-former House Speaker John Boehner in 2015, they ended with now-former Speaker Paul Ryan—who he said was much worse—in the process.

(snip)

Asked if this all means he backs McCarthy in the race, Trump said, “Yeah, I support McCarthy.”

“Everybody wants my support,” Trump said. “I was 99 percent on endorsements [in the primary]. I don’t know the percentage but I was 233 and 22 on general election. Everybody would say that ‘yeah for the nomination he’s incredible but for the general election…’ But what’s that percentage? 233 and 22—it’s incredible. They always want my endorsement.”

Then Trump further explained why he believes McCarthy deserves the gavel.

[roamer_1]

There ya go... stepping on Conservatives, and endorsing RINOs.
 

[catfish1957]

Jump the Shark Part II.

Has a politican ever had a worse 24 hours!!!!!!

Or near month, if you incude the Oz/Walker debacles.

[libertybele]

Trump met with McCarthy shortly after J6.  I think Trump believes that if he endorses McCarthy, McCarthy will help Trump over the finish line for the nomination in '24.  Trump is delusional.  McCarthy is greedy for power and will play both sides of the aisle to get the Speakership. I'd say by now McCarthy probably sees Trump as a liability.

[Sighlass]

Surely I didn't get the memo this was all part of his plan to remove the swamp creatures... I am sure someone will come along in a few minutes to tell me I got this all mixed up and Trump really was planning some grander scheme.

[catfish1957]

Surely I didn't get the memo this was all part of his plan to remove the swamp creatures... I am sure someone will come along in a few minutes to tell me I got this all mixed up and Trump really was planning some grander scheme.

McCarthy is not only of the swamp, but is an integral to its operation.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Conservatives Warn of ‘Doomsday Scenario’ if McCarthy Fails in Speaker Race Where Democrats Neuter GOP Power
Breitbart, Nov, 28, 2022

Republicans had in conference earlier in November selected McCarthy as their official nominee for Speaker. He won 188 votes, and former House Freedom Caucus chairman Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ)—who ran against him in conference—won 31 votes. McCarthy’s 188 votes is impressive and better than he has ever gotten before, and he had fewer defectors than his predecessor, former Speaker Paul Ryan, got in conference when he ran for Speaker the first time in 2015, but McCarthy is still 30 votes shy of the needed 218.

McCarthy has been facing criticism from some House conservatives like Reps. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Bob Good (R-VA), Ralph Norman (R-SC), and Matt Rosendale (R-MT), who have all said in some form or another that they do not intend to vote for McCarthy. Given the slim majority that Republicans hold in the new Congress—they have won 222 seats—a group of five or more Republicans banding together to vote for someone other than McCarthy–assuming all other members are present and voting for a person–could deny him the majority he needs to win the gavel.

It is in that chaos that conservatives worry Democrats may step up to back an establishment Republican alternative to McCarthy who, in exchange for Democrat votes on the floor of the House to get the majority needed to win the speakership, would agree to rule changes to weaken subpoenas coming from the new House GOP majority into Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration.

The incoming chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform (OGR), Rep. James Comer (R-KY), has warned of this concern.

More:  https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/28/exclusive-conservatives-warn-of-doomsday-scenario-if-mccarthy-fails-in-speaker-race-where-democrats-neuter-gop-power/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump also noted, again without naming them specifically, that he is “friendly” with many of the people working against McCarthy—but warned them to knock it off or they could make things worse. Trump even referenced the concerns, as a recent Breitbart News article reported, warning of a “doomsday scenario” where Democrats might partner with an establishment Republican, if McCarthy goes down, to hand that establishment figure the Speakership. In exchange for Democrat votes, the concern is that such a Republican might agree to a House rules change, weakening or altogether scrapping subpoena power.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/16/exclusive-trump-backs-mccarthy-speaker-tells-opponents-stand-down-think-deserves-shot/

[Right_in_Virginia]

John Cardillo
@johncardillo

I’ve long supported guys like @RepMattGaetz and @RepAndyBiggsAZ,  but this Speaker fight is now counterproductive and will lead to a deal being cut with Dems.

I’ll take McCarthy and hearings over a deal with unethical Democrats any day of the week.

No deals. No compromises.

8:03 AM · Nov 25, 2022

[Right_in_Virginia]

Scott Wong
@scottwongDC

SCOOP: @RepMTG's worst fears could soon be coming true.

DON BACON (R-Neb.) tells @NBCNews he's willing to work with DEMS to elect a moderate Speaker if 218 Republicans can't agree on a candidate.


8:20 PM · Nov 14, 2022

[Right_in_Virginia]

Congresswoman-elect Harriet Hageman of Wyoming, the conservative who defeated outgoing Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), also is warning of the possibility.

"The people of Wyoming sent me to Congress to stop the overreach of the Biden administration, and the people of the United States restored Republicans to the majority in the House,” Hageman told Breitbart News. “Under no circumstances should we engage in anything inside the GOP caucus that could result in returning power – in any way – back to the Democrats, the same people who drove the country into the mess we see today. I am supporting Kevin McCarthy for speaker, and I hope my colleagues will see how dangerous it would be to engage in brinksmanship that could allow Democrats a way back in.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/28/exclusive-conservatives-warn-of-doomsday-scenario-if-mccarthy-fails-in-speaker-race-where-democrats-neuter-gop-power/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump is hardly the first major conservative leader to raise these concerns. Nationally syndicated radio host Mark Levin has raised the concerns, as have people such as Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH) and James Comer (R-KY)—the incoming chairmen respectively of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees. Congresswoman-elect Harriet Hageman of Wyoming, who just defeated outgoing Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), has also warned of the concerns.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/16/exclusive-trump-backs-mccarthy-speaker-tells-opponents-stand-down-think-deserves-shot/

[Right_in_Virginia]

I've posted information above from two Breitbart articles you may find helpful @libertybele @catfish1957

[Timber Rattler]

Congresswoman-elect Harriet Hageman of Wyoming, the conservative who defeated outgoing Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), also is warning of the possibility.

Well, being new to Congress, Hageman here obviously doesn't know McCarthy, or what a lying, two-faced, double-dealing, double-talking swamp monster he really is.  I have no doubt that he's whispering sweet nothings to her to get her vote, and will undoubtedly stab her in the back later, as he always does.

Oh, and Trump's an idiot for backing this guy now who threw him under the bus on January 6th but then cowardly went down to Mar-A Lago to deny it and to kiss his ring.

A pox on both of them!

[catfish1957]

I've posted information above from two Breitbart articles you may find helpful @libertybele @catfish1957

@Right_in_Virginia

So how are we even any better off with a GOP speaker who rather negotiate with socialist dims than the Freedom Caucus?

Basically you are getting the same as Pelosi, AND getting blamed for it as party in power.  The 6-8 in the Freedom Caucus has made it clear, they don't want an overthrow....   They just want some right leaning concessions. But....   Seems the swampish POS McCarthy sees it differently.

This Trump endorsement infers some complicity, and honestly he has put knives in the backs of some of. his biggest supporters like MTG for it.

[LMAO]

Don’t you all enjoy that regardless the number of screw ups and miscalculations on the part of Trump, the determination of the TBR Trump Rapid Response Team  to “ explain” it away?

[catfish1957]

Don’t you all enjoy that regardless the number of screw ups and miscalculations on the part of Trump, the determination of the TBR Trump Rapid Response Team  to “ explain” it away?

And the Responder in Charge refuses to answer whether they'll jump ship with Trump if Trump loses the nomination, and takes a 3rd party approach.

Says a lot doesn't it?

[LMAO]

And the Responder in Charge refuses to answer whether they'll jump ship with Trump if Trump loses the nomination, and takes a 3rd party approach.

Says a lot doesn't it?

One of them even stating they would vote Democrat if Trump isn’t the nominee

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,485194.25.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

So how are we even any better off with a GOP speaker who rather negotiate with socialist dims than the Freedom Caucus?

@catfish1957

I think you misunderstood.  McCarthy is the GOP nominee for Speaker, he won the nomination in early November.  His name will be put up for a full House vote on January 3.  If the new Gang of Five's efforts are successful and McCarthy loses, he's done.  It is at this point that negotiations with demonrats will begin and will be led by a GOP replacement... who's waiting in the wings.  The demonrats are salivating while waiting for this "opportunity".

Right now there should be intense negotiations between McCarthy and Gaetz's group --- and they should extract a pound of flesh.  But if they follow through on the threat to jettison McCarthy on Jan 3,  even with the Speakership Republicans will lose control of the legislative agenda and judicial investigations.  ----- Add this to McConnell cutting off the House's power of the purse in 2023 and the neutering of the House majority is complete.

Basically you are getting the same as Pelosi, AND getting blamed for it as party in power.  The 6-8 in the Freedom Caucus has made it clear, they don't want an overthrow....   They just want some right leaning concessions. But....   Seems the swampish POS McCarthy sees it differently.

The Gaetz group is, at this point, firm in their opposition to McCarthy --- even on January 3.  They have been very public about this. ---- hence Trump's admonition to stop and think this through before they make things worse for the Republican/MAGA agenda.

This Trump endorsement infers some complicity, and honestly he has put knives in the backs of some of. his biggest supporters like MTG for it.

Hopefully, Trump's endorsement makes more sense now.  Who better to remind these guys they're risking throwing away a hard won Republican majority in the House?    BTW,  MTG supports McCarthy.  Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH) and James Comer (R-KY)—the incoming chairmen respectively of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees want an end to the opposition threat, too.

cc:   @LMAO

[Right_in_Virginia]

And the Responder in Charge refuses to answer whether they'll jump ship with Trump if Trump loses the nomination, and takes a 3rd party approach.

Says a lot doesn't it?

All it says is we've enough to concern ourselves with without entering the realm of paranoid speculation.  As I said before, ask me again if this happens and I'll answer the question then.

@catfish1957

[unite for individuality]

Right now there should be intense negotiations between McCarthy and Gaetz's group ---
and they should extract a pound of flesh. 

But if they follow through on the threat to jettison McCarthy on Jan 3, 
even with the Speakership Republicans will lose control of
the legislative agenda and judicial investigations.  -----

Add this to McConnell cutting off the House's power of the purse in 2023
and the neutering of the House majority is complete.

1. I agree.  Gaetz's group should extract some major commitments from McCarthy.
But how can the commitments be enforced?

2. How can the Rs lose control of the legislative agenda and judicial investigations
if they have the Speakership?

3. How can the Senate cut off the House's power of the purse
when it's in the Constitution?

[libertybele]

I've posted information above from two Breitbart articles you may find helpful @libertybele @catfish1957

The concern that the GOP could wind up with someone worse than McCarthy is valid, but not a reason to not try to stop a RINO from taking the gavel.  There are two House members who went up against him that IMO are more conservative; Scott and Biggs.  Granted I don't like Scott, but feel he would indeed at least be better than McCarthy -- not much of a consolation I know.

Sorry, @Right_in_Virginia but Trump's pick of people hasn't been the greatest.  I believe Trump made an agreement with McCarthy shortly after J6 -- no his backing McCarthy doesn't sit well with me.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Don’t you all enjoy that regardless the number of screw ups and miscalculations on the part of Trump, the determination of the TBR Trump Rapid Response Team  to “ explain” it away?

It wouldn't be necessary to post information from the article being discussed if more people controlled jerking knees long enough to actually read it.   

@LMAO

[libertybele]

@catfish1957

I think you misunderstood.  McCarthy is the GOP nominee for Speaker, he won the nomination in early November.  His name will be put up for a full House vote on January 3.  If the new Gang of Five's efforts are successful and McCarthy loses, he's done.  It is at this point that negotiations with demonrats will begin and will be led by a GOP replacement... who's waiting in the wings.  The demonrats are salivating while waiting for this "opportunity".

Right now there should be intense negotiations between McCarthy and Gaetz's group --- and they should extract a pound of flesh.  But if they follow through on the threat to jettison McCarthy on Jan 3,  even with the Speakership Republicans will lose control of the legislative agenda and judicial investigations.  ----- Add this to McConnell cutting off the House's power of the purse in 2023 and the neutering of the House majority is complete.

The Gaetz group is, at this point, firm in their opposition to McCarthy --- even on January 3.  They have been very public about this. ---- hence Trump's admonition to stop and think this through before they make things worse for the Republican/MAGA agenda.

Hopefully, Trump's endorsement makes more sense now.  Who better to remind these guys they're risking throwing away a hard won Republican majority in the House?    BTW,  MTG supports McCarthy.  Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH) and James Comer (R-KY)—the incoming chairmen respectively of the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees want an end to the opposition threat, too.

cc:   @LMAO

This point is well made @Right_in_Virginia but the thought of RINO McCarthy still doesn't sit well with me.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sorry, @Right_in_Virginia but Trump's pick of people hasn't been the greatest.  I believe Trump made an agreement with McCarthy shortly after J6 -- no his backing McCarthy doesn't sit well with me.

No need to apologize @libertybele  I believe your opinion is sincere.  I simply think, based on the machinations behind the scenes, the opinion is wrong.