November 8th Election Thread

[HikerGuy83]

@HikerGuy83 https://www.uncoverdc.com/2022/11/10/maricopa-county-election-judge-speaks-out/

Not proof positive, but very strong circumstantial evidence--and definitely cause to question the veracity of totals presented in Maricopa County.

It does not need to be proof positive.

It raises doubt.  I, unlike others, will withhold judgement until this is investigated. 

I wish she had not volunteered her conclusions.  Because then then gets tossed in with the other crazies.

But her story is enough, IME, to warrant a deeper look by Lake and associated.

Let's get the facts first.

@Smokin Joe: Thanks for sharing this.

[Smokin Joe]

It does not need to be proof positive.

It raises doubt.  I, unlike others, will withhold judgement until this is investigated. 

I wish she had not volunteered her conclusions.  Because then then gets tossed in with the other crazies.

But her story is enough, IME, to warrant a deeper look by Lake and associated.

Let's get the facts first.

@Smokin Joe: Thanks for sharing this.

@HikerGuy83 You're welcome. There is a lot out there, but you likely won't find it searching with Google, who learned to bury stuff over in China, where dissent is quashed.

[HikerGuy83]

In the medial:

It's almost never Kari Lake.....

It's almost always Election Denier Kari Lake......

Real freaking objective

[Free Vulcan]

RNC Had Roving Attorneys Quietly Monitoring Maricopa Voting Centers, One Has Finally Released His Damning Finds: Report

According to a report in Time, Lake’s campaign spent $2 million to monitor the counting of votes and to be prepared with lawsuits based on the facts when necessary. Time said 40 lawyers were in one central “war room” while roving attorneys monitor polling places and vote-counting operations.

“This is the most robust Election Day operation and post-election operation that Arizona has ever seen,” Brady Smith, the Lake campaign’s chief political strategist, said.

A glimpse at what the Lake campaign might use as fodder for its lawsuits was shared with The Western Journal in the form of a report from Mark Sonnenklar about what the roving attorneys saw on Election Day. The Western Journal has not independently verified the claims in this report.

Sonnenklar said 10 roving attorneys out of 16 responded to a survey he sent them, and that his report covers 115 voting places out of the 223 places in Maricopa County.

Overall, he wrote, “72 of the 115 vote centers (62.61%) we visited had material problems with the tabulators not being able to tabulate ballots, causing voters to either deposit their ballots into box 3, spoil their ballots and re-vote, or get frustrated and leave the vote center without voting.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/rnc-roving-attorneys-quietly-monitoring-maricopa-voting-centers-one-finally-released-damning-finds-report/

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Hot dang Kari, I knew there was a reason I liked you.

[Elderberry]

'I WILL become governor!': Arizona GOP hopeful Kari Lake insists she's still on track to overturn Dem rival's election win, as AG's office demands explanation for polling day issues before certifying the result

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11448609/Arizona-attorney-generals-office-DEMANDS-answers-string-election-day-problems.html

•   The Arizona attorney general's office Saturday demanded answers to problems
•   Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright wrote to a top election official
•   She spelled out issues with on-demand ballot printers on election day
•   She also reported confusion about how to send voters to alternate sites
•   And she wrote that untabulated ballots were muddled with tabulated ballots
•   'These complaints go beyond pure speculation,' she added in her letter
•   Kari Lake told DailyMail.com she was right to fight on in the governor's race
•   'I believe at the end of the day that this will be turned around,' she said

Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake has insisted she'll still become governor after the state's assistant attorney general demanded explanations to polling day issues before agreeing to certify Lake's Democrat rival's win.

GOP rising star Lake spoke exclusively to DailyMail.com Saturday  after her campaign was handed a lifeline on Saturday when the state's attorney general's office demanded explanations for a string of election day problems before the final results can be certified.

Lake told DailyMail.com it vindicated her decision to fight on, even though the Associated Press and other news organizations called the race for her opponent.

With more than 95 percent of votes tallied, Lake trails Democrat Katie Hobbs by fewer than 18,000 votes. The Associated Press has already called the race for Hobbs - but Lake, who was widely expected to win the contest, is having none of it.

'The way they run elections in Maricopa County is worse than in banana republics around this world,' she said in an exclusive interview, referring to the state's most populous county.

'And I'll tell you what, I believe at the end of the day that this will be turned around and I don't know what the solution will be but I still believe I will become governor, and we are going to restore honesty to our elections.'

On Saturday, Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright wrote to one of the county's top election officials detailing reports of a string of irregularities from printer problems that stopped ballots being tabulated, to confusion about procedures for transferring voters to alternate sites if they were unable to vote at the first location.

Lake's claims of fraud have consistently been characterized by opponents as unfounded, and her supporters have yet to produce a smoking gun.

But in her letter, Wright says: 'These complaints go beyond pure speculation, but include first-hand witness accounts that raise concerns regarding Maricopa’s lawful compliance with Arizona election law.'

More at link.

[HikerGuy83]

RNC Had Roving Attorneys Quietly Monitoring Maricopa Voting Centers, One Has Finally Released His Damning Finds: Report

According to a report in Time, Lake’s campaign spent $2 million to monitor the counting of votes and to be prepared with lawsuits based on the facts when necessary. Time said 40 lawyers were in one central “war room” while roving attorneys monitor polling places and vote-counting operations.

“This is the most robust Election Day operation and post-election operation that Arizona has ever seen,” Brady Smith, the Lake campaign’s chief political strategist, said.

A glimpse at what the Lake campaign might use as fodder for its lawsuits was shared with The Western Journal in the form of a report from Mark Sonnenklar about what the roving attorneys saw on Election Day. The Western Journal has not independently verified the claims in this report.

Sonnenklar said 10 roving attorneys out of 16 responded to a survey he sent them, and that his report covers 115 voting places out of the 223 places in Maricopa County.

Overall, he wrote, “72 of the 115 vote centers (62.61%) we visited had material problems with the tabulators not being able to tabulate ballots, causing voters to either deposit their ballots into box 3, spoil their ballots and re-vote, or get frustrated and leave the vote center without voting.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/rnc-roving-attorneys-quietly-monitoring-maricopa-voting-centers-one-finally-released-damning-finds-report/

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Hot dang Kari, I knew there was a reason I liked you.

Instead of pushing back on her, they need to either agree with or disagree with the accounts and decide how to proceed.

In the interest of helping this thing not look like a circus, they better be very cautious in their approach.

[Free Vulcan]

Instead of pushing back on her, they need to either agree with or disagree with the accounts and decide how to proceed.

In the interest of helping this thing not look like a circus, they better be very cautious in their approach.

I agree, and she may not win, but what I really want to get is sunshine on their process and get a handle what they are doing.

I'm sorry, but just regular old ballot harvesting does not explain how they keep coming from coming behind and winning at a rate way beyond random statistics.

[HikerGuy83]

I agree, and she may not win, but what I really want to get is sunshine on their process and get a handle what they are doing.

I'm sorry, but just regular old ballot harvesting does not explain how they keep coming from coming behind and winning at a rate way beyond random statistics.

And when that is put together and showed dispassionatly (i.e. without the accusations and name calling), credibility goes way way up.

Right now, the left is able to disparage any argument in favor in potential issues because of the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome created by some on the right.

[Smokin Joe]

And when that is put together and showed dispassionately (i.e. without the accusations and name calling), credibility goes way way up.

Right now, the left is able to disparage any argument in favor in potential issues because of the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome created by some on the right.

When courts dismiss on standing issues (you haven''t been hurt until after the election/the election is over it's moot) the evidence is simply not examined.

If you are not allowed to present the evidence in court, then people can claim there is none that was presented in court, and that can lead to summary dismissals--but that does not mean there is no evidence.

The media then present claims of impropriety as "unjustified" "mistaken" "false" (or otherwise denigrated) claims because even if those assertions are backed by statistics, video, geolocation data, and eyewitness testimony, it has never seen the light of day in a courtroom, not for lack of trying. If the judges won't look, they will not see.

By the same token, however, NONE of those cases challenging the validity of elections was lost on the basis of evidence not existing.

They simply were not heard, from lower courts to SCOTUS.

The evidence was not looked at. Refusal by a court to take a look at evidence just makes the whole mess stink worse.

It's like playing in a football game and the ref turns and looks away from a clear violation by the other team--no whistle, no flag, and does so for the whole game. It doesn't mean the violation didn't occur, just that the ref ignored it.

[Bigun]

When courts dismiss on standing issues (you haven''t been hurt until after the election/the election is over it's moot) the evidence is simply not examined.

If you are not allowed to present the evidence in court, then people can claim there is none that was presented in court, and that can lead to summary dismissals--but that does not mean there is no evidence.

The media then present claims of impropriety as "unjustified" "mistaken" "false" (or otherwise denigrated) claims because even if those assertions are backed by statistics, video, geolocation data, and eyewitness testimony, it has never seen the light of day in a courtroom, not for lack of trying. If the judges won't look, they will not see.

By the same token, however, NONE of those cases challenging the validity of elections was lost on the basis of evidence not existing.

They simply were not heard, from lower courts to SCOTUS.

The evidence was not looked at. Refusal by a court to take a look at evidence just makes the whole mess stink worse.

It's like playing in a football game and the ref turns and looks away from a clear violation by the other team--no whistle, no flag, and does so for the whole game. It doesn't mean the violation didn't occur, just that the ref ignored it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

When courts dismiss on standing issues (you haven''t been hurt until after the election/the election is over it's moot) the evidence is simply not examined.

If you are not allowed to present the evidence in court, then people can claim there is none that was presented in court, and that can lead to summary dismissals--but that does not mean there is no evidence.

The media then present claims of impropriety as "unjustified" "mistaken" "false" (or otherwise denigrated) claims because even if those assertions are backed by statistics, video, geolocation data, and eyewitness testimony, it has never seen the light of day in a courtroom, not for lack of trying. If the judges won't look, they will not see.

By the same token, however, NONE of those cases challenging the validity of elections was lost on the basis of evidence not existing.

They simply were not heard, from lower courts to SCOTUS.

The evidence was not looked at. Refusal by a court to take a look at evidence just makes the whole mess stink worse.

It's like playing in a football game and the ref turns and looks away from a clear violation by the other team--no whistle, no flag, and does so for the whole game. It doesn't mean the violation didn't occur, just that the ref ignored it.

You'd think we'd be set up to do something more about it this time. 

I recall being frustrated by the answer "Well the courts dismiised it" to inquiries.  I agree....that means nothing.

At the same time, you have to be somewhat clever about how you approach it. 

Not sure just what that looks like.

[Right_in_Virginia]

When courts dismiss on standing issues (you haven''t been hurt until after the election/the election is over it's moot) the evidence is simply not examined.

If you are not allowed to present the evidence in court, then people can claim there is none that was presented in court, and that can lead to summary dismissals--but that does not mean there is no evidence.

The media then present claims of impropriety as "unjustified" "mistaken" "false" (or otherwise denigrated) claims because even if those assertions are backed by statistics, video, geolocation data, and eyewitness testimony, it has never seen the light of day in a courtroom, not for lack of trying. If the judges won't look, they will not see.

By the same token, however, NONE of those cases challenging the validity of elections was lost on the basis of evidence not existing.

They simply were not heard, from lower courts to SCOTUS.

The evidence was not looked at. Refusal by a court to take a look at evidence just makes the whole mess stink worse.

It's like playing in a football game and the ref turns and looks away from a clear violation by the other team--no whistle, no flag, and does so for the whole game. It doesn't mean the violation didn't occur, just that the ref ignored it.

Excellent post @Smokin Joe

[Right_in_Virginia]

[HikerGuy83]

FYI: I can't link to twitter.

[HikerGuy83]

A quick search on Kari Lake turns up nothing new.

I can't read twitter, so if I missed it....sorry.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Kari Lake releases message to the People of Arizona & the United States:

Nov 21, 2022, 12:27 PM

https://truthsocial.com/users/JackPosobiec/statuses/109383676897666788

[Kamaji]

FYI: I can't link to twitter.

If you have a link to a twitter item, you should be able to have it render properly if you copy and paste everything up to the first question mark '?' on the url.  Delete the '?' and everything that follows it, and the tweet should render.

[Free Vulcan]

BREAKING UPDATE: — NOW FOUR ARIZONA COUNTIES Delay Certification of the Tainted 2022 Midterm Election – Gila, Conchise, Mohave, and Yavapai



Mohave, Gila, Conchise, and Yavapai counties have refused to certify the suspect election!

There are only 15 counties in the state.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/breaking-second-arizona-county-refuses-certify-tainted-2022-midterm-election/

[Bigun]

Bombshell Arizona report: Election Day problems in Maricopa far wider than county admitting

Widespread equipment failures, hours-long lines were "voter suppression" that "would necessarily impact the vote tallies for Republican candidates much more than the vote tallies for Democrat candidates," concluded RNC report compiled from detailed observer accounts.

Numerous issues plagued vote centers in Arizona's Maricopa County on Election Day 2022, from ballots rejected by tabulators to hours-long lines for voting, according to affidavits filed with the Arizona attorney general's office.

According to an affidavit report by Mark Sonnenklar, a roving attorney with the Republican National Committee's Election Integrity program in Arizona, he and 10 other RNC roving attorneys reported their observations and those of Republican observers at vote centers on Election Day.

File
 Aggregated Roving Attorney General Election Report.pdf
The 11 attorneys visited 115 out of the 223 vote centers in Maricopa County on Election Day and found that 72 of them (or 62.61%) "had material problems with the tabulators not being able to tabulate ballots," Sonnenklar reported, "causing voters to either deposit their ballots into box 3, spoil their ballots and re-vote, or get frustrated and leave the vote center without voting."

Box 3 — also called "Door 3" or "Slot 3" — is a separate box on the tabulators into which ballots not counted by the machines were placed for later tabulation. Maricopa County, however, has admitted that "in some voting locations, 'Door 3' non-tabulated ballots were commingled with tabulated ballots," according to a letter from the Arizona attorney general's office to the county.

 221119 Letter to Maricopa County re 2022 General Election Administration.pdf

Excerpt: Much more at headline link.

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/BarnettforAZ/status/1595025972075851778

[Elderberry]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1595601915915644929

Kari Lake
@KariLake

The man in charge of Maricopa Co's disastrous elections is Stephen Richer.

He ran an anti-Kari Lake PAC.

AZ Sun Times: ALL expenditures from Richer's PAC were spent telling Arizonans NOT to vote for Lake.

Please Tell @GeneralBrnovich
 to investigate.

[HikerGuy83]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1595601915915644929

Kari Lake
@KariLake

The man in charge of Maricopa Co's disastrous elections is Stephen Richer.

He ran an anti-Kari Lake PAC.

AZ Sun Times: ALL expenditures from Richer's PAC were spent telling Arizonans NOT to vote for Lake.

Please Tell @GeneralBrnovich
 to investigate.

A state with a history of HUGE questions regarding elections (from 2020).

And they let this happen. 

This bleep has no idea of what optics mean. 

Good grief.....Lake has every reason to question what we can and can't trust.

[HikerGuy83]

https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/23/maricopa-county-made-arizonas-elections-even-more-of-a-disaster-than-people-realize/

[HikerGuy83]

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1595601915915644929

Kari Lake
@KariLake

The man in charge of Maricopa Co's disastrous elections is Stephen Richer.

He ran an anti-Kari Lake PAC.

AZ Sun Times: ALL expenditures from Richer's PAC were spent telling Arizonans NOT to vote for Lake.

Please Tell @GeneralBrnovich
 to investigate.

Can't read tweets.

But I would like something that substantively backs up the claims about Richers.

If this is the case.....it should be a huge concern for everyone.

[Bigun]

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer’s Founding of Partisan PAC Raises Ethical and Legal Questions of Possible Misconduct


Story at above link is from the Arizona Sun Times @HikerGuy83

[HikerGuy83]

Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer’s Founding of Partisan PAC Raises Ethical and Legal Questions of Possible Misconduct


Story at above link is from the Arizona Sun Times @HikerGuy83

Thank you.

[HikerGuy83]

Lake launched her first counterpunch.

Get the facts Kari.  Let the facts tell the story. 

Shut up the blowhards so they don't kill credibility.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2022/11/25/kari-lake-files-first-lawsuit-over-midterm-election-results-n2616375

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How is Lake filing a challenge, something within her full legal right to do, somehow antidemocratic?

We're not allowed to even mentally question these things now?

[HikerGuy83]

How is Lake filing a challenge, something within her full legal right to do, somehow antidemocratic?

We're not allowed to even mentally question these things now?

Where did this come from ?

Who said she can't question an election that was conducted so poorly that it raised all kinds of questions and issues ?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Chuck Callestro
@ChuckCallesto

BOMBSHELL REPORT: Maricopa County announced that on Election Day over 540,000 VOTERS visited one of the 223 vote anywhere centers in the county DESPITE releasing FINAL OFFICIAL RESULTS DATA claiming only 248,070 people voted...



12:12 PM · Nov 28, 2022  ·Twitter Web App

[Right_in_Virginia]

Kari Lake
@KariLake

STOP what you are doing and WATCH this. This is the BEST explanation of Maricopa County Election-Day Disaster you will ever watch. 🚨

Video: 

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1597292887720370176

[HikerGuy83]

Kari Lake
@KariLake

STOP what you are doing and WATCH this. This is the BEST explanation of Maricopa County Election-Day Disaster you will ever watch. 🚨

Video: 

https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1597292887720370176

Can't see anything to link to.

[Cyber Liberty]

Can't see anything to link to.

Too bad.  It's a twitter link.  Don't worry, you don't want to see it anyway.

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1597348970484809729

[Fishrrman]

Time to hang it up, guys.

Short of a "Battle of Arizona" event (based upon the previous "Battle of Athens" [TN] in 1946), Hobbs is the new governor of AZ.

My prediction (I hope to be proven wrong):
The election steal that just occurred in Arizona WILL NOT be resolved by "legal means".
To accomplish that will require... "something more".

[HikerGuy83]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1597348970484809729

If there is a URL in the twitter link, can you post it directly ?

My computer won't allow me to see tweets.

[HikerGuy83]

Time to hang it up, guys.

Short of a "Battle of Arizona" event (based upon the previous "Battle of Athens" [TN] in 1946), Hobbs is the new governor of AZ.

My prediction (I hope to be proven wrong):
The election steal that just occurred in Arizona WILL NOT be resolved by "legal means".
To accomplish that will require... "something more".

In my estimation, this is as much about the election as it is about the governors race.

The GOP should be very clear about that.

[Right_in_Virginia]

If there is a URL in the twitter link, can you post it directly ?

My computer won't allow me to see tweets.

Try this youtube link @HikerGuy83   ---  fast forward to 1:33:25.  The speaker is Ben with Frontline America and Real America Front News (wearing a cap)


https://youtu.be/I2O-BVvUUbY

[Right_in_Virginia]

Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee

I’m proud of @KariLake for fighting to protect the people of Arizona’s votes.

Without secure elections, we are no better than third world countries and have lost our freedoms.

AZ SOS Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari bc she knew it was rigged and didn’t have to.  ....

.... States with massive mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, no voter ID, machines no one trust, and continued vote counting that turns Election Day into election month are a joke.

Call me all the petty names you want, I could care less.

Kari Lake didn’t lose her election.

9:28 AM · Nov 29, 2022  ·Twitter for iPhone

[HikerGuy83]

Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee

I’m proud of @KariLake for fighting to protect the people of Arizona’s votes.

Without secure elections, we are no better than third world countries and have lost our freedoms.

AZ SOS Katie Hobbs refused to debate Kari bc she knew it was rigged and didn’t have to.  ....

.... States with massive mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, no voter ID, machines no one trust, and continued vote counting that turns Election Day into election month are a joke.

Call me all the petty names you want, I could care less.

Kari Lake didn’t lose her election.

9:28 AM · Nov 29, 2022  ·Twitter for iPhone

She should have said "We don't know if Kari Lake lost her election"  and we don't know if she won either.

The statement about secure elections is KEY. 

[HikerGuy83]

Try this youtube link @HikerGuy83   ---  fast forward to 1:33:25.  The speaker is Ben with Frontline America and Real America Front News (wearing a cap)


https://youtu.be/I2O-BVvUUbY

Thank you.

[Free Vulcan]

Election Workers’ Sworn Affidavits Accuse Maricopa County Employee Who Donated To Mark Kelly Of Election Rule Violations On Election Day



...Four election workers detailed similar issues at the Grace in the Desert Church in Peoria, Arizona, including ballot reconciliation issues, suspicious ballot spoiling instructions, questionable testing procedures, and potential law violations.

Each of them fingered Maricopa County’s Mark McCall for Election Day negligence and maladministration.

“Mark, who was the supposed leader, was the cause of most of the issues and did nothing to correct anything that was brought to his attention,” said Cynthia Schlesinger.

Mark McCall was further accused of stuffing misread “box 3” ballots into black duffel bags instead of the designated transport bins and dropping unused tamper-evident security ties into the duffel bags. This breaks the chain of custody by potentially allowing bad actors to open these bags and reseal them without anybody knowing.

It also appears that Mark was also left alone in the tabulation center with no supervision. It is unclear whether or not there were live ballots in the room....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/election-workers-sworn-affidavits-accuse-maricopa-county-employee-donated-mark-kelly-election-rule-violations-election-day/

[HikerGuy83]

Election Workers’ Sworn Affidavits Accuse Maricopa County Employee Who Donated To Mark Kelly Of Election Rule Violations On Election Day



...Four election workers detailed similar issues at the Grace in the Desert Church in Peoria, Arizona, including ballot reconciliation issues, suspicious ballot spoiling instructions, questionable testing procedures, and potential law violations.

Each of them fingered Maricopa County’s Mark McCall for Election Day negligence and maladministration.

“Mark, who was the supposed leader, was the cause of most of the issues and did nothing to correct anything that was brought to his attention,” said Cynthia Schlesinger.

Mark McCall was further accused of stuffing misread “box 3” ballots into black duffel bags instead of the designated transport bins and dropping unused tamper-evident security ties into the duffel bags. This breaks the chain of custody by potentially allowing bad actors to open these bags and reseal them without anybody knowing.

It also appears that Mark was also left alone in the tabulation center with no supervision. It is unclear whether or not there were live ballots in the room....

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/election-workers-sworn-affidavits-accuse-maricopa-county-employee-donated-mark-kelly-election-rule-violations-election-day/

Thank you for sharing this.

How can these people be so inconsiderate and stupid.

This is pure garbage and needs to be highlited.

Future election officials need to be specifically trained on how these things should be done.

For now, I hope Lake is methodically taking this apart.

One thing we need is the material nature of the offense or issue with regard to the recent election.  It won't take many challenged votes to show that Kari Lake deserves a new election (a well run one without these idiots in charge).

Truthfully, if Lake lost, I'd be bummed but I know we'd survive it (and spare me the end-of-the-world statements....I ain't buying it).  But right now, I have very little confidence we know who really won or lost.

They called Trump illegitimate with no rational for doing so.

In Hobbs case, until this is resolved any efforts on her part to govern are illegitimate.

[Cyber Liberty]

Thank you for sharing this.

How can these people be so inconsiderate and stupid.

This is pure garbage and needs to be highlited.

Future election officials need to be specifically trained on how these things should be done.

For now, I hope Lake is methodically taking this apart.

One thing we need is the material nature of the offense or issue with regard to the recent election.  It won't take many challenged votes to show that Kari Lake deserves a new election (a well run one without these idiots in charge).

Truthfully, if Lake lost, I'd be bummed but I know we'd survive it (and spare me the end-of-the-world statements....I ain't buying it).  But right now, I have very little confidence we know who really won or lost.

They called Trump illegitimate with no rational for doing so.

In Hobbs case, until this is resolved any efforts on her part to govern are illegitimate.

A lot of this stuff was brought up after the 2020 election, where were you?  Declaring that election "perfect and above board," that's where.

[HikerGuy83]

A lot of this stuff was brought up after the 2020 election, where were you?  Declaring that election "perfect and above board," that's where.

I really don't know what your problem is (and that isn't asking you to tell me, because frankly I don't really care).

You can't find where I ever said that. 

You will find me severely questioning the way things were handled in terms of the idiot GOP, especially Trump, response.

That was how it was brought up.

As to what was brought up, I have no idea.....

I wasn't even in the state in 2020.

[Hoodat]

I really don't know what your problem is (and that isn't asking you to tell me, because frankly I don't really care).

You can't find where I ever said that. 

You will find me severely questioning the way things were handled in terms of the idiot GOP, especially Trump, response.

That was how it was brought up.

As to what was brought up, I have no idea.....

I wasn't even in the state in 2020.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,443384.msg2503572.html#msg2503572

[HikerGuy83]

https://www.azfamily.com/2022/12/01/judge-calls-election-lawsuit-baseless-orders-kari-lake-mark-finchem-pay-court-fees/

Just perfect.

Now we have a judge who is calling the suites "baseless".  I'd love to see his basis for doing so.

This really smells like a "boy who cried wolf (and that isn't Lake.....it's Trump & Co)" response.

I wonder if we'll get to see his technical analysis. 

He stated that the suite was full of "false narratives".  Wonder how he got there ?

[HikerGuy83]

Not seeing much from Lake.

Her site has nothing. 

Seems like this is losing steam fast.

I hope not.

[Free Vulcan]

Data Analysts Question How 25 Percent of Arizona Voters Flipped to Oppose Trump Candidates Despite GOP Voter Registration Advantage

...In contrast, Republicans won hugely in other Arizona races. Incumbent State Treasurer Kimberly Yee, a Republican who was not endorsed by Donald Trump and who ran a relatively low-profile office, received about 283,000 more votes than her challenger, 1,390,135 to 1,107,036, which is a significant 11 percent difference.

Republicans received about 320,000 more votes than Democrats in the nine U.S. House races, 1,324,961 to 1,004,461. That comes down to 56.87 percent versus 43.12 percent. In the State Senate races, Republicans received about 200,000 more votes than Democrats, 1,254,630 to 654,834. That breaks down to a significant difference between parties of 34 percent.

“Does anyone really believe that voters preferred GOP State Senate candidates with a 34 percent advantage, yet swung back dramatically to favor Democrats by up to 5 percent margins in four other races?” Cole said. “It defies the odds. I can understand a few percentage points difference, but around one-third of voters voting Democrat in some races but Republican in others makes no sense, the margins are too grossly different.”...

https://arizonasuntimes.com/2022/12/07/data-analysts-question-how-25-percent-of-arizona-voters-flipped-to-oppose-trump-candidates-despite-gop-voter-registration-advantage/

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Time to pay for a Maricopa county recount if the law allows for it.

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Data Analysts Question How 25 Percent of Arizona Voters Flipped to Oppose Trump Candidates Despite GOP Voter Registration Advantage

...In contrast, Republicans won hugely in other Arizona races. Incumbent State Treasurer Kimberly Yee, a Republican who was not endorsed by Donald Trump and who ran a relatively low-profile office, received about 283,000 more votes than her challenger, 1,390,135 to 1,107,036, which is a significant 11 percent difference.

Republicans received about 320,000 more votes than Democrats in the nine U.S. House races, 1,324,961 to 1,004,461. That comes down to 56.87 percent versus 43.12 percent. In the State Senate races, Republicans received about 200,000 more votes than Democrats, 1,254,630 to 654,834. That breaks down to a significant difference between parties of 34 percent.

“Does anyone really believe that voters preferred GOP State Senate candidates with a 34 percent advantage, yet swung back dramatically to favor Democrats by up to 5 percent margins in four other races?” Cole said. “It defies the odds. I can understand a few percentage points difference, but around one-third of voters voting Democrat in some races but Republican in others makes no sense, the margins are too grossly different.”...

https://arizonasuntimes.com/2022/12/07/data-analysts-question-how-25-percent-of-arizona-voters-flipped-to-oppose-trump-candidates-despite-gop-voter-registration-advantage/

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Time to pay for a Maricopa county recount if the law allows for it.

Great article.

Asks some very good and pertinent questions. 

My bigger question is how we let things get to the point that we are having these ugly post election arguments.

Can't our elections officials extract their heads from their backsides and get it right.