Ukraine 3

[Hoodat]

Most of Canada speaks English and shares a common culture with the US. Does that mean we should just take it?

Only the parts that have gas and oil, obviously.

Looking at the map though, it looks like Kiev is not included in those 'majority Russian speaking' areas.  Yet Kiev was the primary target of the initial invasion.  Go figure.  Looks like someone is trying to bullshit us with the same old disproved bullshit as before. 

[Hoodat]

Looking back on history, I recall a time where someone made this same claim about the majority German speakers in Austria and the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia.  Looks like someone is stealing the same arguments that Adolf Hitler used.

[Hoodat]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1578992871813705729

Ukraine is now less than 25 km from Svatove.

[DB]

I would have thought the Russians would have left mines everywhere.

[sneakypete]

Pure bullshit.

@Hoodat

Well,leftist spin,at a minimum.

As with every war ever fought,there is plenty of guilt to go around,but regardless of what ANYONE tries to claim,almost all of the guilt on this one rests firmly on the shoulders of the Kremlin.

[sneakypete]

That was a miss, by the Russians. That is not what they were hoping to hit.
There are plenty are targets there which do not include 'apartments'.
Russians are incompetent boobs.

@240B

Not really,but the Russian Army is utterly controlled by the old-line Communists still in the Kremlin,and all their equipment is the result of "Soviet Engineering". Which means almost all of it is crap,suitable for targets,and not much else.

Also,there are damn few volunteers in the Neo-Soviet Army,and it shows. People who are dragged away from remote villages and forced into the Neo-Soviet Army are NOT what anyone would call "euthanistic soldiers".

[Elderberry]

Putin to meet security council after calling bridge explosion ‘terrorism’

The Hill by Julia Mueller - 10/09/22

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3680300-putin-to-meet-security-council-after-calling-bridge-explosion-terrorism/

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday accused Ukraine of an explosion that damaged the Kerch Bridge, which connected Russia to annexed Crimea, and called the incident “a terrorist act.”

“There’s no doubt it was a terrorist act directed at the destruction of critically important civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation,” Putin said in a Sunday meeting with the chairman of Russia’s Investigative Committee. “And the authors, perpetrators, and those who ordered it are the special services of Ukraine.”

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov announced that the Russian president will convene with his Security Council on Monday in a meeting with no stated agenda, according to Bloomberg.

The Russian president reportedly last met with the council ahead of his order to partially mobilize hundreds of thousands of Russians to aid his war efforts.

More at link.

[sneakypete]

The spirit of a united country is long gone, broken by outside interests & corrupt govt.

@Right_in_Virginia

It would be more correct to say that the Soviets displaced the existing citizens of Crimea and replaced them with Soviet citizens and military members after they invaded and the previous citizens fled to Ukraine to escape becoming Soviet subjects.

[Elderberry]

Ukraine nuclear plant reconnected to grid after line was cut

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/ukraine-nuclear-plant-reconnected-grid-line-cut-91253126

The U.N. nuclear watchdog says an external power line to Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, the biggest in Europe, has been repaired after shelling disconnected the facility from the grid and forced it to resort to emergency diesel generators

An external power line to Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant — the biggest in Europe — was repaired on Sunday after shelling disconnected the facility from the grid and forced it to resort to emergency diesel generators, the U.N. nuclear watchdog said.

The International Atomic Energy Agency said the 750-kilovolt line was reconnected to the plant on Sunday evening following repair work by Ukrainian engineers. That enabled the plant to start switching off the generators that had kicked in to provide it with power after the line — its last connection to the grid — was cut early Saturday.

IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi tweeted that the reconnection was “a temporary relief in a still-untenable situation.”

The plant has been held by Russian forces for months, but operated by Ukrainian employees. All six reactors at the site are shut down but they still require electricity for cooling and other safety functions.

More at link.

[sneakypete]

Most of Canada speaks English and shares a common culture with the US. Does that mean we should just take it?

@DB

EXCELLENT observation!

I am eaten alive with jealousy that I didn't think to post it.

[Fishrrman]

DB wrote in a post somewhere above:
"Most of Canada speaks English and shares a common culture with the US. Does that mean we should just take it?"

Well this is way off-topic, but I'm gonna answer your question:
YES.
We SHOULD "liberate" Canada from the marxist government that now rules the place.

EDIT:
At least the western provinces -- Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta.
The Maritimes can go with New England when the USA breaks up.
Southern BC can go with western WA/OR.

[sneakypete]

Looking back on history, I recall a time where someone made this same claim about the majority German speakers in Austria and the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia.  Looks like someone is stealing the same arguments that Adolf Hitler used.

@Hoodat

Well,if it looks like a socialist,talks like a socialist,and smells like a socialist...........

[sneakypete]

DB wrote in a post somewhere above:
"Most of Canada speaks English and shares a common culture with the US. Does that mean we should just take it?"

Well this is way off-topic, but I'm gonna answer your question:
YES.
We SHOULD "liberate" Canada from the marxist government that now rules the place.

And this post is intended to be completely serious -- this is what I would really advocate.

@Fishrrman

Including the ones that don't want to be "liberated"?

AFAIK,there is nothing preventing those who are unhappy from leaving and going somewhere more free.

[DB]

Putin to meet security council after calling bridge explosion ‘terrorism’

The Hill by Julia Mueller - 10/09/22

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3680300-putin-to-meet-security-council-after-calling-bridge-explosion-terrorism/

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday accused Ukraine of an explosion that damaged the Kerch Bridge, which connected Russia to annexed Crimea, and called the incident “a terrorist act.”

“There’s no doubt it was a terrorist act directed at the destruction of critically important civilian infrastructure of the Russian Federation,” Putin said in a Sunday meeting with the chairman of Russia’s Investigative Committee. “And the authors, perpetrators, and those who ordered it are the special services of Ukraine.”

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov announced that the Russian president will convene with his Security Council on Monday in a meeting with no stated agenda, according to Bloomberg.

The Russian president reportedly last met with the council ahead of his order to partially mobilize hundreds of thousands of Russians to aid his war efforts.

More at link.

Well there's some in your face hypocrisy for you... What exactly has Russia been doing to Ukrainian infrastructure and cities for the last 7 months???

[Smokin Joe]

I would have thought the Russians would have left mines everywhere.

It takes time and organization to booby trap as you withdraw. I get the impression that the Russians who are withdrawing have neither so much. Without documentation, mines or booby traps become as much a hazard for the Russians should they advance again.
And there remains the optics of leaving things behind kids might set off.

[Elderberry]

I would have thought the Russians would have left mines everywhere.

Over 5,000 And Counting | Ukraine Races To Clear Liberated Izyum of Mines Planted By Putin's Troops


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBrCOUjGP4s

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

It would be more correct to say that the Soviets displaced the existing citizens of Crimea and replaced them with Soviet citizens and military members after they invaded and the previous citizens fled to Ukraine to escape becoming Soviet subjects.

How woud this change the fact that TODAY Ukraine is two countries --- and the spirit of a united country is long gone, broken by outside interests & corrupt govt??

@sneakypete

[Right_in_Virginia]

Well there's some in your face hypocrisy for you... What exactly has Russia been doing to Ukrainian infrastructure and cities for the last 7 months???

Infringing upon the Azov Battalion's copyright?

[Hoodat]

Infringing upon the Azov Battalion's copyright?

The Azov Battalion was effectively disbanded in early 2015.  But then you knew that already.

[sneakypete]

How woud this change the fact that TODAY Ukraine is two countries --- 

@sneakypete

@Right_in_Virginia

Uhhh,it wouldn't. In fact,it VERIFIES it.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Most of Canada speaks English and shares a common culture with the US. Does that mean we should just take it?

What if the Canadians want to be part of the US and want us to our help make it happen?

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Uhhh,it wouldn't. In fact,it VERIFIES it.

So why not allow the borders to reflect the reality of two separate and distinct countries instead of fighting a war over it @sneakypete ?

[sneakypete]

So why not allow the borders to reflect the reality of two separate and distinct countries instead of fighting a war over it @sneakypete ?

@Right_in_Virginia

Why are you asking  ME this,instead of the Russian embassy?

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Why are you asking  ME this,instead of the Russian embassy?

I'd be more inclined to ask the US State Department and Pentagon @sneakypete  ----- but in this moment I was enjoying a chat with YOU.   

[Hoodat]

What if the Canadians want to be part of the US and want us to our help make it happen?

Obviously, it would justify our invasion of Canada, the wanton bombing of Canadian civilian structures, the torture, rape, and murder of Canadian citizens, and the annexation of whatever territory we think has the most oil on it.