Why aren't docs seeing vax deaths?

[Elderberry]

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/my-interviews-with-ryan-cole-deb  8/13/2022

My interviews with Ryan Cole, Deb Conrad, and Gina Doane: Why aren't docs seeing vax deaths?

Executive summary

Medical examiners aren’t assessing that the vaccines can cause death because they aren’t doing the proper tests. They don’t order the tests because they don’t want to know.

The CDC isn’t requesting that these tests be done either. They don’t want to know.

Family members could request the tests be done on the tissue samples of those who are deceased. They don’t want to know the truth either (it’s too painful).

The doctors know the vaccine killed people, but they won’t write it in the death certificate because they don’t want to be fired, lose their hospital privileges, and lose their license to practice medicine. So they shut up too.

Here are two videos that provide evidence in great detail about all of this corruption. It’s truly astonishing.

NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

The tests to assess whether a death was caused by the COVID vaccine

Dr. Cole recommends Dr. Burkhardt’s protocol for autopsy.

He also wrote me:

    On section II.2 I would also consider TLR4 stains on heart microscopic slides. I would also add a SARS cov2 nucleocapsid antibody test to all microscopic tissue sections where spike is found to verify damage by viral infection vs vaccine tissue damage.

So this is what the medical examiners should be doing.

How many are doing it? One.

More at link.

[jmyrlefuller]

Read about Steve Kirsch, folks.

Democrat mega donor.

This guy is putting out fake news to make us look like fools. Don't fall for it.

[PeteS in CA]

Yaaaawwwwwwwwwwn ... as of the morning of 8/11/2022, 223,457,170 have been fully vaccinated with one of the Covid vaccines approved or authorized for use in the US. If The Vaccine is so deadly, where are the bodies of 10s of millions of Americans killed by Vaccine Injury?

US doctors "aren't seeing vax deaths" because there's nothing to be seen. Hospitals aren't flooded with Vaccine Injury cases, and mortuaries, graveyards, and crematoria aren't overflowing with the bodies of Americans killed by Vaccine Injury because The Vaccine (the vaccines approved or authorized for use in the US) is not deadly.

This anti-Covid vax narrative is a year or more past its expiration date, because reality disproved it a year or more ago, and the chasm between this narrative and reality widens daily.

[PeteS in CA]

Read about Steve Kirsch, folks.

Democrat mega donor.

This guy is putting out fake news to make us look like fools. Don't fall for it.

When it comes to matters medical, Kirsch might still be a good electrical/electronic engineer.

[mountaineer]

I don't believe anyone suggested the vaccine killed every person who received it.

[PeteS in CA]

I don't believe anyone suggested the vaccine killed every person who received it.

Nor did I in my comment above, your straw man notwithstanding.

But OK, if 10s of millions of deaths is too high, where are the millions of extra dead bodies? Or the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies?

The bottom line is that whatever number you pick, the numerous Vaccine-injured extra dead bodies only exist in anti-Covid-vaxxers' fantasy writings! There is no beef. And that chasm-of-the-missing-bodies widens daily.

[roamer_1]

But OK, if 10s of millions of deaths is too high, where are the millions of extra dead bodies? Or the hundreds of thousands of dead bodies?

Who is building straw men now?

[mountaineer]

NewZealand, which is 81.2% vaccinated, has had 2,550 Covid deaths this year after only having 59 deaths in the prior 22.5 months.

Tweeted by @DefiantBaptist

[mountaineer]

Tweet from an ophthalmologist:

Neil Chesen MD
@nchesen1
Replying to @robbystarbuck
Here is one. I have never seen a single case of Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome in 32 years of ophthalmology practice.  Earlier this spring I saw 4 cases, all boosted within the prior few months. The syndrome is caused by reactivation of the chickenpox virus. Draw your own conclusions.
9:39 AM · Aug 27, 2022·

[PeteS in CA]

  The SARS-CoV-2 virus is not a herpes virus, and The Vaccine has nothing to do with herpes viruses.

  Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome is a form of shingles affecting a facial nerve near the ear, less near the eye.

  Shingles outbreaks happen pretty much randomly to healthy people.

  If this really happened, I would find an ophthalmologist less inclined to leap to CT-grade conclusions based on zero evidence.

  This ophthalmologist bouncy-tale is irrelevant to the fact that the 10s or hundreds of millions of extra dead bodies that would be seen by now were The Vaccine deadly or genocidal, as anti-Covid-vaxxers are utterly missing.

[DB]

The SARS-CoV-2 virus is not a herpes virus, and The Vaccine has nothing to do with herpes viruses.

  Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome is a form of shingles affecting a facial nerve near the ear, less near the eye.

  Shingles outbreaks happen pretty much randomly to healthy people.

  If this really happened, I would find an ophthalmologist less inclined to leap to CT-grade conclusions based on zero evidence.

  This ophthalmologist bouncy-tale is irrelevant to the fact that the 10s or hundreds of millions of extra dead bodies that would be seen by now were The Vaccine deadly or genocidal, as anti-Covid-vaxxers are utterly missing.

A damaged immune system can result in all sorts of odd infection problems. Regarding zero evidence, having never seen a case of something for your career and then seeing 4 cases of it in a short period of time suggests something changed - all with only one new known common factor.

[PeteS in CA]

1. “The Vaccine” - actually 3 vaccines - damages the immune system? Got evidence for that claim?

2. “Only one new known common factor”? The ophthalmologist didn’t claim that. Nor did he claim to have done a full health profile of the four patients. So, got evidence for your claim?

3. The three family members of mine who have had a bout with shingles were all healthy at the time of the outbreak.

4. Like I posted above, an outbreak of shingles in a facial nerve is irrelevant to the claim that is the supposed topic of this thread. Why the threadjacking?

[mountaineer]

Looks to me like the thread is about deaths caused by the various Covid vaccines. Comments about other negative side effects - some of them serious - are hardly unrelated.

[Hoodat]

1. “The Vaccine” - actually 3 vaccines - damages the immune system? Got evidence for that claim?

Innate immune suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes, and MicroRNAs

[Kamaji]

1. “The Vaccine” - actually 3 vaccines - damages the immune system? Got evidence for that claim?

2. “Only one new known common factor”? The ophthalmologist didn’t claim that. Nor did he claim to have done a full health profile of the four patients. So, got evidence for your claim?

3. The three family members of mine who have had a bout with shingles were all healthy at the time of the outbreak.

4. Like I posted above, an outbreak of shingles in a facial nerve is irrelevant to the claim that is the supposed topic of this thread. Why the threadjacking?

Vaccines can have negative effects on a person's immune system.  One of the effects that has been known for a while is Antibody-dependent Enhancement, or ADE:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement

ADE can occur during the development of a primary or secondary viral infection, as well as with a virus challenge after vaccination.

The truth in debates like this, as is usually the case, lies someplace in the gray, muddled middle, where nobody seems to want to go. 

[jmyrlefuller]

Tweet from an ophthalmologist:

Neil Chesen MD
@nchesen1
Replying to @robbystarbuck
Here is one. I have never seen a single case of Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome in 32 years of ophthalmology practice.  Earlier this spring I saw 4 cases, all boosted within the prior few months. The syndrome is caused by reactivation of the chickenpox virus. Draw your own conclusions.
9:39 AM · Aug 27, 2022·

In other words, shingles.

In 32 years, this guy never saw a case of shingles? Nonsense.

Who are these phonies and where are they coming from?

[mountaineer]

I don't know that he's  a phony. How do you?

[Cyber Liberty]

In other words, shingles.

In 32 years, this guy never saw a case of shingles? Nonsense.

Who are these phonies and where are they coming from?

It's not simply Shingles, it's a specific type that can cause deafness and/or blindness.  It's quite possible he hadn't seen this particular anomaly before.  Obviously he's seen regular Shingles before.

My sister got the jab, and she had exactly this version of shingles within months of the shot.  She almost went 100% deaf in one ear.

[roamer_1]

In other words, shingles.

In 32 years, this guy never saw a case of shingles? Nonsense.

Who are these phonies and where are they coming from?

I am 60, and to my knowledge, I know of one case of shingles crossing my life - So the claim is reasonable to me - His work as a physician withstanding, but as an ophthalmologist, it is not something that would tend to come to his specialty - So again, reasonable if discounting.

And if I suddenly found four people with shingles crossing my path now, I too would wonder at such a thing.

[Cyber Liberty]

Looks to me like the thread is about deaths caused by the various Covid vaccines. Comments about other negative side effects - some of them serious - are hardly unrelated.

I agree with this statement.  Not off-topic.

[mountaineer]

My sister got the jab, and she had exactly this version of shingles within months of the shot.  She almost went 100% deaf in one ear.

Mr. M's friend, a pharmacist, got tinnitus immediately upon receiving a covid vax. Interesting how it seems to be affecting the ears.

[Cyber Liberty]

Mr. M's friend, a pharmacist, got tinnitus immediately upon receiving a covid vax. Interesting how it seems to be affecting the ears.

I'm tired of vaxholes poo-pooing our real concerns.

[PeteS in CA]

I'm tired of vaxholes poo-pooing our real concerns.

I’m a “vaxhole” now for pointing out that the 10s or 100s of missing dead bodies contradict claims that “The Vaccine” is deadly or genocidal? Why the ad hominem attack?

I’m a “vaxhole” now for pointing out that the huge canyon of relevance gap between the the OP article’s claim that people DEAD of “Vaccine Injury” are being hidden as Covid deaths and a rando Tweet claiming a particular type of shingles (a distinction I pointed out) had to have been caused by “The Vaccine”?  Why the ad hominem attack?

I carefully avoid ad hominem attacks against TBR members, but an Admin calls me a “vaxhole”? WTH?!

Has a new rule been added to the effect that the veracity anti-Covid-vax claims cannot be questioned? I’m trying to avoid ban-worthy discourtesy, but WTH?!

[GtHawk]

I am 60, and to my knowledge, I know of one case of shingles crossing my life - So the claim is reasonable to me - His work as a physician withstanding, but as an ophthalmologist, it is not something that would tend to come to his specialty - So again, reasonable if discounting.

And if I suddenly found four people with shingles crossing my path now, I too would wonder at such a thing.

Okay I shouldn't because I really don't have an opinion on whether shingles of any variety is related to the jab, but my MIL, wife, mom, and two of their friends all had shingles though there was a greater time frame between them. Also age seems to have a lot to do with it which is why there has been such a push on shingles vaccine over the last few years and medicare covering it. I will admit that since I have had much less contact with others over the years I haven't heard of people I know getting shingles.

[mountaineer]

I think the point is that an eye doctor with decades of experience had not seen so many cases of Ramsay-Hunt Syndrome in such a short period of time, with every single patient having recently received a Covid vaccine. Interesting coincidence, if nothing else.

It's not just shingles, it's a particular type of shingles affecting the facial nerve. Tinnitus is one of the symptoms, so maybe that's what afflicted our pharmacist friend.

[roamer_1]

Okay I shouldn't because I really don't have an opinion on whether shingles of any variety is related to the jab, but my MIL, wife, mom, and two of their friends all had shingles though there was a greater time frame between them. Also age seems to have a lot to do with it which is why there has been such a push on shingles vaccine over the last few years and medicare covering it. I will admit that since I have had much less contact with others over the years I haven't heard of people I know getting shingles.

Yes, and I recognize that it is mostly an elder disease, so it would supposedly become more prevalent in one's life as one gets older - But I don't think that is necessarily so. I have but one case in my whole life - all those years with elders of the generation before me all around... 

So a sudden slew of them showing up would make me suspicious of some external force being causal. That's all I am saying - That would be a reasonable inference - Inference and anecdote though it is.

[roamer_1]

I’m a “vaxhole” now for pointing out that the 10s or 100s of missing dead bodies contradict claims that “The Vaccine” is deadly or genocidal? Why the ad hominem attack?

I’m a “vaxhole” now for pointing out that the huge canyon of relevance gap between the the OP article’s claim that people DEAD of “Vaccine Injury” are being hidden as Covid deaths and a rando Tweet claiming a particular type of shingles (a distinction I pointed out) had to have been caused by “The Vaccine”?  Why the ad hominem attack?

I carefully avoid ad hominem attacks against TBR members, but an Admin calls me a “vaxhole”? WTH?!

Has a new rule been added to the effect that the veracity anti-Covid-vax claims cannot be questioned? I’m trying to avoid ban-worthy discourtesy, but WTH?!

As a point of order @Cyber Liberty did not call !YOU! a vaxhole.

[mystery-ak]

Okay...I have never mentioned this here before.

Within one month of my second shot I developed this itchy rash all over my legs, torso and a little on my arms and face.....went to my family doc...he sent me to a dermatologist....had a biopsy...came back as capillaritis...Derm Doc told me she had seen a lot of this on patients after the 2nd shot...I was on 2 rounds of strong steriods for almost 2 months...gained 10lbs.., prescription antihistamine, and cream that cost almost $400 a tube...luckily my insurance paid for it..I have refused to get any boosters

Right now this rash is under control..as soon as I see a spot I slap some cream on it..lol

NO ONE can convince me this was not caused by the vaccine...

[Right_in_Virginia]

The bell we cannot unring is called "uninformed consent".

Emergency use authorization and drug company liability shields should have been removed six months after general distribution of the vaccines ---  along with any hint of a mandate.  The fight should be to end all three NOW ----- not over anecdotal medical evidence supporting one opinion or another.

The drug companies have the hard data from the largest, most diverse contol group in human history--- they know what has taken place.  It's time for them to come clean with the good, the risky and the ugly.

Ads for medications come with a litany of known and potential risks, up to and including death.  Prescriptions come with an insert showing detailed risk/benefit data, side effects (often age-based) and warnings.  We need this same information for each Covid vaccine, booster and treatment protocol.

It's past time to bring back informed consent.

[roamer_1]

NO ONE can convince me this was not caused by the vaccine...

I can understand that perfectly. And btw, sorry for your discomfort. Hope it finally clears up. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Sorry you've had such a rough time @mystery-ak    Hope you're doing better.

[mystery-ak]

Sorry you've had such a rough time @mystery-ak    Hope you're doing better.

The first couple of months with it was terrible until all the meds kicked in.
I am doing good now...it's all cleared up and like I said when I see a spot starting I start the cream...I have like 10 refills of this cream...lol

[mountaineer]

Not all the vaccinated die from it. Some just can't have children, if Singapore is any indication:

...   Like other East Asian countries, Singapore is suffering severe baby bust. The average woman in Singapore has fewer than 1.2 children, barely half the birth rate needed to avert a long-term decline in population.

As low as the birth rate was, though, it had remained stable for a decade. Even Covid did not meaningfully change the number of births - 39,259 in 2019, 38,590 in 2020, and 38,672 in 2021.

In the first two months of 2022, Singapore received welcome news. Births actually rose about 7.5 percent.

Then came March. Again, Singapore began mass mRNA vaccinations of women (and men) of childbearing age in June 2021; March 2022 is exactly nine months later.

In March, the increase in births abruptly reversed. Between March and June 2022 - the most recent month for which figures are available - Singapore has recorded about 1,000 fewer live births compared to 2021, a decline of 8.5 percent. The drop has been consistent each month. ...

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/more-frightening-news-about-fertility

[Cyber Liberty]

Not all the vaccinated die from it. Some just can't have children, if Singapore is any indication:https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/more-frightening-news-about-fertility

So everything is going according to plan.

[jmyrlefuller]

That's called regression to the mean! 

[rustynail]

'Why aren't docs seeing vax deaths?'  they are too busy running marathons?

[sneakypete]

Who is building straw men now?

@roamer_1

Standing in line and whining about all the deaths while not being able to name any deaths related to the shots that weren't old,sick people pretty much already on the verge of dying.

And I am NOT a fan of these shots. I finally broke down and got the Moderna shots so I could get into places back when everybody was panicking to the point where you almost needed one to go any place.

I also believe this was more about population control than health.

"Conditioning",if you will accept the premise.

Don't forget that one of the major ploys of the left is to try to get us all fighting each other so we don't pay any attention to what the government is doing.

[sneakypete]

Vaccines can have negative effects on a person's immune system.  One of the effects that has been known for a while is Antibody-dependent Enhancement, or ADE:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement

The truth in debates like this, as is usually the case, lies someplace in the gray, muddled middle, where nobody seems to want to go.

@Kamaji

I was one of the very first children that was vaccinated for the Polio Virus. I don't mind admitting that as a young boy in elementary school,all the tv and newspaper displays of children in iron lungs flat scared the hell out of me.

My parents asked me if I wanted to get the vaccination,and I didn't hesitate to say "YES!"

Unfortunately,I was one of the few people who had a negative reaction to the polio virus shot. I was bed-ridden for maybe a year. Couldn't even stand up,never mind walk. Was absolutely terrified that I had gotten polio from taking the shot.

I eventually recovered, but my growth was seriously hindered, and despite being as big or bigger than the students in my grade when I got the vaccination, my growth slowed to a crawl, and I only got up to around 5'5" tall.

While recovering, I had to learn how to walk again. Then I needed to learn how to run so that when I played baseball I could run to a base and be safe,instead of having to walk to the base,and be tagged out. This didn't happen overnight,either. It took right at 6 years for me to recover physically,and even then I had problems.

Even with all that,I was damn glad I got the shot once I figured out I would be able to walk again. I GUESSED that the fact I had this reaction meant that I already had the polio virus in me,ready to break out and put me in an iron lung at any time,and frankly,I would have rather died. When you look at it from THAT POV,having slightly stunted growth and having to learn to walk again were minor irritations.

[roamer_1]

Standing in line and whining about all the deaths while not being able to name any deaths related to the shots that weren't old,sick people pretty much already on the verge of dying.

That isn't altogether true @sneakypete . Just the VARS data proves that - with plenty of anecdotal evidence besides - Like young athletes dropping dead from Myocardial problems. Weird clotting issues... Much of that relates directly to the vax.

The strawman was the insistence upthread demanding evidence of the worst numbers possible (millions), when just the VARS data approaches more serious reactions with this vax than all the others combined. Not to mention voluminous anecdotal evidence besides.

It is a strawman that relies upon the absurd. reducto ad absurdum = Taking the most ridiculous numbers possible to reduce the argument to an absurdity.

And I am NOT a fan of these shots. I finally broke down and got the Moderna shots so I could get into places back when everybody was panicking to the point where you almost needed one to go any place.

Me neither, and I will never take that poison.

I also believe this was more about population control than health.

I am in agreement with that. My position all along has been that near term deaths could not be the purpose (or there would be way more), and since the vax simply does not work, then it is fair to conclude that it has another purpose.

Considering that Fauxi and Gates are in the forefront of this thing, and both are also in the forefront of the depopulation movement - Gates has already been accused of sterilization via vaccines down in Africa - It is not a stretch to suppose that to be the end game.

A loose collection of tracks - but the sign is all heading in the same direction. And reducing population by way of some partial or full sterility, even in small percentages, By the sheer volume of people exposed to the vax, can hide many many 'deaths' simply by limiting reproduction.

Don't forget that one of the major ploys of the left is to try to get us all fighting each other so we don't pay any attention to what the government is doing.

That's fine... But I follow poorly and always will. Whichever way any mob is going, I will be heading differently - That is almost always guaranteed.

[sneakypete]

A loose collection of tracks - but the sign is all heading in the same direction. And reducing population by way of some partial or full sterility, even in small percentages, By the sheer volume of people exposed to the vax, can hide many many 'deaths' simply by limiting reproduction.

That's fine... But I follow poorly and always will. Whichever way any mob is going, I will be heading differently -that is almost always guaranteed.

@roamer_1

Not me!

There is nothing in this world I love more than following orders!

Unless maybe it is wearing red and marching in a straight line.

[Smokin Joe]

@roamer_1

Not me!

There is nothing in this world I love more than following orders!

Unless maybe it is wearing red and marching in a straight line.

@sneakypete Okay, I think I saw a hint of sarcasm there....

@roamer_1 ...crowds are like rip currents, swim at 90 degrees to the current, then work your way back towards shore...

Better yet, I avoid them (both) entirely.

[roamer_1]

@sneakypete Okay, I think I saw a hint of sarcasm there....

@roamer_1 ...crowds are like rip currents, swim at 90 degrees to the current, then work your way back towards shore...

Better yet, I avoid them (both) entirely.

@Smokin Joe

Folks mostly get all the way out of my way, wherever I go... Used to be that was because I was way big and mean looking... Now I am fat and gimpy, and a bit wobbly as I go... And folks are worried I might tip over and kill somebody...  I can always fart and then pick my way through the passed out bodies... Goes along gets along...

[roamer_1]

Not me!

There is nothing in this world I love more than following orders!

Unless maybe it is wearing red and marching in a straight line.

No sarcasm tag needed @sneakypete . 

[Hoodat]

Don't take medical advice from people who believe the planet is overpopulated.

[mountaineer]

Sorry if this offends those who received vaccines and believe in their efficacy and safety ...

Landmark First Peer-Reviewed Study on Pfizer and Moderna Covid Vaccines Confirms ‘Excess Risk’ of Adverse Side Effects
    by Kyle Becker
September 2, 2022

A landmark peer-reviewed study appears to be the first of its kind to provide hard data on the “excess risk” of adverse side effects of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines in an independent “randomized clinical trial.”

The results of the accepted scientific study confirm that the concerns that many patients had about the mRNA vaccines were well-founded.

“In the Moderna trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (15.1 per 10,000 participants) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (6.4 per 10,000 participants),” the study found.

“In the Pfizer trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (10.1 per 10,000) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (2.3 per 10,000 participants),” the study added.

The study was published on ScienceDirect on August 31, 2022. The authors include researchers from Stanford University, the University of Maryland, and UCLA.  ...

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