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China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone

By DAVID RISING and KEN MORITSUGU, Associated Press - 5h ago
 

BEIJING (AP) — Beijing launched a new-generation aircraft carrier Friday, the first such ship to be both designed and built in China, in a milestone as it seeks to extend the range and power of its navy.

The Type 003 carrier christened Fujian left its drydock at a shipyard outside Shanghai in the morning and tied up at a nearby pier, state media reports said.

State broadcaster CCTV showed assembled navy personnel standing beneath the massive ship as water jets sprayed over its deck, multi-colored streamers flew and colorful smoke was released.

Equipped with the latest weaponry and aircraft-launch technology, the Type 003 ship’s capabilities are thought to rival those of Western carriers, as Beijing seeks to turn its navy, already the world’s largest, into a multi-carrier force.

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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 02:19:55 pm »
It's slightly larger than a 1960s vintage Kittyhawk class carrier, non-nuclear-powered (= needs frequent/occasional refueling), and estimates of its complement are around 40-50 fighters (half or less the complement of a Kittyhawk class carrier). It is ~50% larger than the HMS Queen Elizabeth, with ~25% greater aircraft complement. It is double the size if the French carrier Charles de Gaulle, and again, with ~25% greater aircraft complement.

So Fujian is roughly the size of the USN's last conventionally powered aircraft carrier class, but with half the capability (in terms of number of aircraft carried). The nuclear-fueled Nimitz class (=no tankers needed) is a bit larger and has double or more the aircraft complement. As the Russians and French have learned, very expensively, in recent decades, aircraft carriers are very complex systems. The Admiral Kuznetsov and Charles De Gaulle both have had serious reliability problems. The Fujian is a big unknown in this regard.

There are two huge, highly relevant unknowns. Launching and recovering aircraft imposes stresses greater than those experienced by land-based aircraft. Does China, whose engine producers struggle to produce engines of thrust similar to Russian or US engines, have designs able to handle the stresses of carrier usage?

The USN has developed its plane handling and combat doctrines over the period of a century. Launching and recovering multi-plane strikes and single-plane missions is a highly skilled and choreographed process. Planning and carrying out missions is similarly complex, and not the same as for land-based air squadrons (whose major mission and training traditionally has been defending home territory). Does China have the multi-faceted doctrine and trained personnel to use this new weapon?
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Re: China launches high-tech aircraft carrier in naval milestone
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2022, 02:38:31 pm »
It's slightly larger than a 1960s vintage Kittyhawk class carrier, non-nuclear-powered (= needs frequent/occasional refueling), and estimates of its complement are around 40-50 fighters (half or less the complement of a Kittyhawk class carrier). It is ~50% larger than the HMS Queen Elizabeth, with ~25% greater aircraft complement. It is double the size if the French carrier Charles de Gaulle, and again, with ~25% greater aircraft complement.

So Fujian is roughly the size of the USN's last conventionally powered aircraft carrier class, but with half the capability (in terms of number of aircraft carried). The nuclear-fueled Nimitz class (=no tankers needed) is a bit larger and has double or more the aircraft complement. As the Russians and French have learned, very expensively, in recent decades, aircraft carriers are very complex systems. The Admiral Kuznetsov and Charles De Gaulle both have had serious reliability problems. The Fujian is a big unknown in this regard.

There are two huge, highly relevant unknowns. Launching and recovering aircraft imposes stresses greater than those experienced by land-based aircraft. Does China, whose engine producers struggle to produce engines of thrust similar to Russian or US engines, have designs able to handle the stresses of carrier usage?

The USN has developed its plane handling and combat doctrines over the period of a century. Launching and recovering multi-plane strikes and single-plane missions is a highly skilled and choreographed process. Planning and carrying out missions is similarly complex, and not the same as for land-based air squadrons (whose major mission and training traditionally has been defending home territory). Does China have the multi-faceted doctrine and trained personnel to use this new weapon?
Interesting information. The question is one of how far along Beijing is with drone technology, whether they can command multiple drones with one fighter of AI enhanced software to perform swarm attacks on other naval vessels to overcome air defenses. Those force multipliers (if correctly deployed and equipped) might take up considerably less hangar space.
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