BREAKING LIVE: Supreme Court Vote to END Roe v Wade in DRAFT OPINION by Justice Samuel Alito Leaked

[Hoodat]

SCOTUS will be releasing more case(s) tomorrow, which is highly unusual for a Friday.  I suspect Dobbs will be dropped, as the Conservative Justices and their families are heading out of town.

[Wingnut]

DU is verklempt.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142933599

Oh my.  Those people are nucking futz over there!  My God.... insanity and dementia runs rampant

[Bigun]

Oh my.  Those people are nucking futz over there!  My God.... insanity and dementia runs rampant

That has LONG been the case, my friend! 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jack Posobiec
@JacPosobiec

SUPREME COURT: "Nothing in the Second Amendment’s text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms"

🔥🔥🔥

11:14 AM · Jun 23, 2022·Twitter Web App

Let's hope these same judges also find that nothing in the 2nd Amendment's text draws a right for the government to confiscate a gun based on gossip without due process when the Red Flag laws hit their desks.

[Hoodat]

For all the trolls here who gave Mary Trump a forum to lie about her brother uncle:

https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump/status/1539985464320573442


These people are enemies of the US Constitution.

[Bigun]

The Court should have simply ruled on his execution petition itself instead of expanding the vehicle for its legality.

@Hoodat Absolutely! 

[Cyber Liberty]

 

DU is verklempt.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142933599

Didn't know Skinner's Folly still exists...that was an entertaining read.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec

Have you even read the Constitution?

Neal Katyal
@neal_katyal

Gonna be very weird if Supreme Court ends a constitutional right to obtain an abortion next week, saying it should be left to the States to decide, right after it just imposed a constitutional right to concealed carry of firearms, saying it cannot be left to the States to decide

11:17 AM · Jun 23, 2022·Twitter Web App

[Bigun]

Didn't know Skinner's Folly still exists...that was an entertaining read.

How anyone can find the ravings of lunatics entertaining is beyond me but to each his own!

[Cyber Liberty]

How anyone can find the ravings of lunatics entertaining is beyond me but to each his own!

I like explody heads.   

[Bigun]

I like explody heads.   

  

[Right_in_Virginia]

For all the trolls here who gave Mary Trump a forum to lie about her brother: ......

Her uncle.....

[Hoodat]

Her uncle.....

Thanks for the correction.  My bad.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson

CLARENCE THOMAS: "The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not 'a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees'."



11:31 AM · Jun 23, 2022  Twitter for iPhone

[Right_in_Virginia]

Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson

CLARENCE THOMAS: “Thus, even though the Second Amendment’s definition of “arms” is fixed according to its historical understanding, that general definition covers modern instruments that facilitate armed self-defense”.



11:38 AM · Jun 23, 2022  Twitter for iPhone

[Right_in_Virginia]

Erick Erickson
@EWErickson

I love that Justice Thomas went there. LOL.



11:03 AM · Jun 23, 2022  Twitter for iPad

[Hoodat]

Erick Erickson
@EWErickson

I love that Justice Thomas went there. LOL.



11:03 AM · Jun 23, 2022  Twitter for iPad

Game, Set, Match !!!

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Governor Kathy Hochul, reacting to the 2A ruling, says "we can have restrictions on speech. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.   That line "comes from another SCOTUS case that justified putting anti-war activists in prison and the precedent was overturned over 50 years ago.
(Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1539986249607520256

[Right_in_Virginia]

Election Wizard
@ElectionWiz

JUSTICE ALITO RESPONDS TO LIBERALS CITING MASS SHOOTINGS: "how does the dissent account for the fact that one of the mass shootings near the top of its list took place in Buffalo? The New York law at issue in this case obviously did not stop that perpetrator."

11:08 AM · Jun 23, 2022·Twitter Web App

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Holy moly, Justice Alito filed a concurring opinion in the New York concealed carry case in which he just got a fat shit all over Stephen Breyer's dissent.   This is amazing."

https://mobile.twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1539984804258758656

[Right_in_Virginia]

More decisions are due out tomorrow (Friday)

[Hoodat]

"Governor Kathy Hochul, reacting to the 2A ruling, says "we can have restrictions on speech.

The Constitution does not prohibit States from banning free speech.  It does prohibit States from infringing on the right to keep and bear arms.

[Hoodat]

"Holy moly, Justice Alito filed a concurring opinion in the New York concealed carry case in which he just got a fat shit all over Stephen Breyer's dissent.   This is amazing."

https://twitter.com/BigStubby42/status/1539994332090044416

[Kamaji]

The Constitution does not prohibit States from banning free speech.  It does prohibit States from infringing on the right to keep and bear arms.

Actually, the Constitution does prohibit states from banning free speech.  The First Amendment applies to the states the same way that the Second Amendment does - via incorporation through the 14th Amendment.

[Hoodat]

Actually, the Constitution does prohibit states from banning free speech.  The First Amendment applies to the states the same way that the Second Amendment does - via incorporation through the 14th Amendment.

Nope.  Sorry, it does no such thing.  Another unconstitutional reach of the Supreme Court.  Keep in mind that Amendment I does not guarantee Free Speech.  It only guarantees protection from the US Congress.  And by the Fourteenth Amendment, it is only that protection that applies equally to all.

[Kamaji]

Nope.  Sorry, it does no such thing.  Another unconstitutional reach of the Supreme Court.  Keep in mind that Amendment I does not guarantee Free Speech.  It only guarantees protection from the US Congress.  And by the Fourteenth Amendment, it is only that protection that applies equally to all.

Then the Second Amendment does not apply to the states, either.

You cannot have one and not the other.

[txradioguy]

"Holy moly, Justice Alito filed a concurring opinion in the New York concealed carry case in which he just got a fat shit all over Stephen Breyer's dissent.   This is amazing."

[Hoodat]

Then the Second Amendment does not apply to the states, either.

You cannot have one and not the other.

Again, incorrect.  Amendment II specifically states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Not so with Amendment I.  There is nothing in Amendment I that guarantees a right to free speech, free exercise, freedom from establishment, freedom of assembly, etc.  Read it for yourself.  There is no equal comparison between Amendment I and II.

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/GovKathyHochul/status/1539983183990620166

So what is the Legislature going to do?  Outlaw the US Constitution?

[Bigun]

There is still an opinion still to come that could have FAR more effect on our lives in this country than any of the others and I'm not talking about Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization .  I'm talking about West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency .

[Kamaji]

Again, incorrect.  Amendment II specifically states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.  Not so with Amendment I.  There is nothing in Amendment I that guarantees a right to free speech, free exercise, freedom from establishment, freedom of assembly, etc.  Read it for yourself.  There is no equal comparison between Amendment I and II.

If you say so, chief. 

[DCPatriot]

There is still an opinion still to come that could have FAR more effect on our lives in this country than any of the others and I'm not talking about Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization .  I'm talking about West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency .

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

[Bigun]

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

Here you go @DCPatriot:

West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency is all about the federal government's ability to create environmental regulations. The challengers are a group of 27 Republican attorneys general, many from states with traditions in the fossil fuel industry, including West Virginia.

Essentially, they argue that the executive branch of government – which includes the EPA – should not be allowed to set rules and regulations around greenhouse gas emissions. Rather, it should be Congress to do so...

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106375324/supreme-court-abortion-opinion-guns-epa-remain-mexico[/size]

IF they rule as I think they will, it would be the beginning of the end for the administrative state.

[cato potatoe]

So what is the Legislature going to do?  Outlaw the US Constitution?

I wish they would secede, and take their clown show to Canada. 

[DCPatriot]

Here you go @DCPatriot:
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106375324/supreme-court-abortion-opinion-guns-epa-remain-mexico

IF they rule as I think they will, it would be the beginning of the end for the administrative state.

Thanks, @Bigun

Seems like a no-brainer and would expect an 7-2 majority...or bigger.   

[Bigun]

Thanks, @Bigun

Seems like a no-brainer and would expect an 7-2 majority...or bigger.   

It SHOULD be 9-0 but you can bet your @$$ it won't be! @DCPatriot

[Hoodat]

What's a summary of that, @Bigun ?

There are four separate petitions:

20-1530: 

20-1531

20-1778

20-1780

[Hoodat]

If you say so, chief.

The Amendments themselves say so.

Amendment I - Congress shall make no law . . . . .

Amendment II - Right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The two are different.  There is nothing in Amendment I that says the right to free speech shall not be infringed - only that Congress can't infringe it.  States can make it illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie house.  The US Congress cannot.

[Kamaji]

The Amendments themselves say so.

Amendment I - Congress shall make no law . . . . .

Amendment II - Right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The two are different.  There is nothing in Amendment I that says the right to free speech shall not be infringed - only that Congress can't infringe it.  States can make it illegal to shout "FIRE" in a crowded movie house.  The US Congress cannot.

If you say so, chief

[Hoodat]

If you say so, chief

It's not me that says it.  It is what the Amendments say.  I choose to go by what they actually say, not by what you wish it said.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Nothing changes today": New York City Mayor Eric Adams responds to Supreme Court decision to overturn New York concealed gun law, adding "we cannot allow New York to become the wild, wild west."  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1540011419592163330

[Hoodat]

"Nothing changes today": New York City Mayor Eric Adams responds to Supreme Court decision to overturn New York concealed gun law, adding "we cannot allow New York to become the wild, wild west."

   S E D I T I O N

[Kamaji]

It's not me that says it.  It is what the Amendments say.  I choose to go by what they actually say, not by what you wish it said.

If you say so, chief

[Kamaji]

Odds on whether the Dobbs opinion comes out today?

[Cyber Liberty]

Odds on whether the Dobbs opinion comes out today?

Is this the last day of the session?

[Wingnut]

Is this the last day of the session?

Whenever that day is that will be the day.

[Kamaji]

It's after 9am, and the S.C.'s server is still easy to get docs from, and there are no new opinions listed, so my guess is that today will not be the day.

[Hoodat]

I vote 'yes'.  It is rare for them to release decisions on Friday, much less announce it.  But they already announced decision(s) would be released today.

[Bigun]

[Kamaji]

Doesn't look like there'll be any opinions out today.