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'The View' host Whoopi Goldberg claims Holocaust wasn’t about race: ‘These are two White groups’
Goldberg criticized as historically illiterate

By Brian Flood | Fox News

ABC’s "The View" co-host Whoopi Goldberg declared the Holocaust was "not about race" despite the systematic killing of an estimated six million Jews, leading to sharp criticism of the outspoken liberal.

The daytime gabfest was in the midst of a conversation about a Tennessee school district voting to remove a Pulitzer Prize winning graphic novel about the Holocaust from its curriculum due to "inappropriate language" and an illustration of a nude woman. "Maus" by Art Spiegelman tells the story of his Jewish parents living in 1940s Poland and depicts him interviewing his father about his experiences as a Holocaust survivor.

Ana Navarro mentioned a Florida bill that could prevent any conversation in schools that makes students feel uncomfortable race or gender, prompting Sunny Hostin to ponder if teaching students about topics like the Holocaust could eventually be prohibited.

"The Holocaust isn’t about race," Goldberg said as her co-hosts appeared stunned.

"No, it’s not about race," Goldberg continued.

Joy Behar said, "Well, they considered Jews a different race."

"It’s not about race," Goldberg reiterated.

"What is it about?" Behar asked.

"It’s about man’s inhumanity to man, that’s what it’s about," Goldberg said. 

"But it’s about a White supremacist going after Jews and Gypsies," Navarro said as Goldberg attempted to speak over her.

"But these are two White groups of people," Goldberg said as her colleagues disagreed.

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Sounds like Whoopi may be a bit racist herself.
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Sounds like Whoopi may be a bit racist herself.

She is expressing the intellectual fruits of CRT, which is essential Black Supremacy.

She really could care less about the Holocaust, because nobody involved is black.
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She's lying because she's an anti-semite who wants to deny equal rights to Jews.

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She is expressing the intellectual fruits of CRT, which is essential Black Supremacy.

She really could care less about the Holocaust, because nobody involved is black.

A Jew is a Caucasian.  A German is a Caucasian.

The Holocaust was a genocide where skin color had nothing to do with it.

What should be discussed is just how your typical German took part in it.
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A Jew is a Caucasian.  A German is a Caucasian.

The National Socialists sure didn't see it that way.  But that's what happens when you put your nation's genetics policies in the hands of someone with a technical school diploma in agronomy.
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It really astonishes me that "The View" hasn't been cancelled. What's even more amazing is that there are people who believe their b.s.

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Oh...we misunderstood her... *****rollingeyes*****


Whoopi Goldberg on Holocaust Remarks: ‘I Am Very Upset that People Misunderstood What I Was Saying


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All white people look alike.
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All white people look alike.

Genocide in Rwanda gets a free pass, too.
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Whoopi Goldberg on Holocaust Remarks: ‘I Am Very Upset that People Misunderstood What I Was Saying


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdkhVQZGSSU&ab_channel=TheLateShowwithStephenColbert


There was no misunderstanding what you were saying, Ms. Goldberg.

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The Japanese rape of Nanking, China, in 1937 was also not racial.
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The Japanese rape of Nanking, China, in 1937 was also not racial.

Not by Ms. Goldberg's principles, it wasn't.

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The Japanese rape of Nanking, China, in 1937 was also not racial.

Great point.
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There was no misunderstanding what you were saying, Ms. Goldberg.

Especially after she repeated it on Colbert's show.
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Hopefully, the ADL chief has read this book:


Edith Stein and Companions: On the Way to Auschwitz

by Paul Hamans

On the same summer day in 1942, Saint Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (Edith Stein) and hundreds of other Catholic Jews were arrested in Holland by the occupying Nazis. One hundred thirteen of those taken into custody, several of them priests and nuns, perished at Auschwitz and other concentration camps. They were murdered in retaliation for the anti-Nazi pastoral letter written by the Dutch Catholic bishops.

While Saint Teresa Benedicta is the most famous member of this group, having been canonized by Pope John Paul II in 1998, all of them deserve the title of martyr, for they were killed not only because they were Jews but also because of the faith of the Church, which had compelled the Dutch bishops to protest the Nazi regime.





That's 113 Catholics murdered at Auschwitz, not based on their religion, but based on their ethnicity (i.e. race).
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This is a kind of ignorant religious racism I have seen before. Many Blacks, including Whoopi, assume all Jews are White. In the same way they assume that all Mormons are White and all Catholics are White, etc. with other branches of Christianity as well, Lutheran, Episcopalian, et. al. This belief is based on pure ignorance.

Jews are considered a race because being Jewish is based mostly on genetics (born of a Jewish mother) except for converts. Judaism is a religion and a genetic race. For example, Cohenim (Jewish Priests) are expected to be able to cite an unbroken Jewish lineage. Judaism is a religion and a race. However like most religions, there are Jews of every race on Earth.

You can be sure the KKK and Nazis did not consider Jews or Gypsies to be White People. They considered Jewishness to be a genetic characteristic. And that attitude still exists even today.

To say that all Jews/Catholics/Mormons are all White, is a striking case of blind ignorance. But the bigger question is Why? Why would she even bring this up, and jump into that topic? What is Whoopi's interest in this?

I don't understand. There is no benefit for her. All Whoopi has done is to label herself ignorant at best, and an antisemite at worst.
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This is a kind of ignorant religious racism I have seen before. Many Blacks, including Whoopi, assume all Jews are White. In the same way they assume that all Mormons are White and all Catholics are White, etc. with other branches of Christianity as well, Lutheran, Episcopalian, et. al. This belief is based on pure ignorance.

Jews are considered a race because being Jewish is based mostly on genetics (born of a Jewish mother) except for converts. Judaism is a religion and a genetic race. For example, Cohenim (Jewish Priests) are expected to be able to cite an unbroken Jewish lineage. Judaism is a religion and a race. However like most religions, there are Jews of every race on Earth.

You can be sure the KKK and Nazis did not consider Jews or Gypsies to be White People. They considered Jewishness to be a genetic characteristic. And that attitude still exists even today.

To say that all Jews/Catholics/Mormons are all White, is a striking case of blind ignorance. But the bigger question is Why? Why would she even bring this up, and jump into that topic? What is Whoopi's interest in this?

I don't understand. There is no benefit for her. All Whoopi has done is to label herself ignorant at best, and an antisemite at worst.

Exactly.

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This is a kind of ignorant religious racism I have seen before. Many Blacks, including Whoopi, assume all Jews are White. In the same way they assume that all Mormons are White and all Catholics are White, etc. with other branches of Christianity as well, Lutheran, Episcopalian, et. al. This belief is based on pure ignorance.

Jews are considered a race because being Jewish is based mostly on genetics (born of a Jewish mother) except for converts. Judaism is a religion and a genetic race. For example, Cohenim (Jewish Priests) are expected to be able to cite an unbroken Jewish lineage. Judaism is a religion and a race. However like most religions, there are Jews of every race on Earth.

You can be sure the KKK and Nazis did not consider Jews or Gypsies to be White People. They considered Jewishness to be a genetic characteristic. And that attitude still exists even today.

To say that all Jews/Catholics/Mormons are all White, is a striking case of blind ignorance. But the bigger question is Why? Why would she even bring this up, and jump into that topic? What is Whoopi's interest in this?

I don't understand. There is no benefit for her. All Whoopi has done is to label herself ignorant at best, and an antisemite at worst.

Excellent post...
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Whoopi Goldberg ‘is in deep s–t’ and should be fired, ABC insiders claim[/size
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There is growing fury inside ABC over Whoopi Goldberg’s controversial Holocaust claims, with insiders insisting that her apology isn’t enough and demanding that she be fired.

On Monday’s edition of “The View,” Goldberg, 66, alleged that the Holocaust was “not about race,” claiming Nazis and Jews were both white.

She doubled down on the claim on “The Late Show With Stephen Colbert” on Monday after stating via Twitter, “I stand corrected.”

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To say that all Jews/Catholics/Mormons are all White, is a striking case of blind ignorance. But the bigger question is Why? Why would she even bring this up, and jump into that topic? What is Whoopi's interest in this?

I don't understand. There is no benefit for her. All Whoopi has done is to label herself ignorant at best, and an antisemite at worst.

This is what happens when one makes stereotypical assumptions based on the color of another person's skin.  It is one of the biggest shortcomings that racists exhibit.
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A Jew is a Caucasian.  A German is a Caucasian.

The Holocaust was a genocide where skin color had nothing to do with it.

What should be discussed is just how your typical German took part in it.
It was an atrocity, but it is inaccurate to say that 'TYPICAL' Germans took part in it, the Germans/Austrians that took part were atypical. It is like saying Antifa or BLM are typical Americans.

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This is what happens when one makes stereotypical assumptions based on the color of another person's skin.  It is one of the biggest shortcomings that racists exhibit.

Luv ya, buddy, but...what a load of crapola!   Not going to chase your squirrel @Hoodat

We're not speaking about anybody else here except EUROPEAN continent Jews.  Jews that were their own damned neighbors.  Jews that were required to sew big yellow stars on their coats so they couldn't be mistaken for ... ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BLOCK!

Whoopi was right.  It was more of a genocide against another tribe/group/religion.
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It was an atrocity, but it is inaccurate to say that 'TYPICAL' Germans took part in it, the Germans/Austrians that took part were atypical. It is like saying Antifa or BLM are typical Americans.



Female German Auxiliaries    Don't look like any 'Antifa' types are there...maybe I'm wrong.    :shrug:
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This is what happens when one makes stereotypical assumptions based on the color of another person's skin.  It is one of the biggest shortcomings that racists exhibit.


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Luv ya, buddy, but...what a load of crapola!   Not going to chase your squirrel @Hoodat

We're not speaking about anybody else here except EUROPEAN continent Jews.  Jews that were their own damned neighbors.  Jews that were required to sew big yellow stars on their coats so they couldn't be mistaken for ... ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BLOCK!

Whoopi was right.  It was more of a genocide against another tribe/group/religion.

I could not disagree more.

See:  NUREMBERG RACE LAWS
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Whoopi Goldberg suspended from ‘The View’ following Holocaust comments

Whoopi Goldberg was suspended from ABC’s “The View” Tuesday evening after she claimed the Holocaust was “not about race.”

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I guess the whole Tutsi vs Hutu wasn't about race either.... according to Whoopi. Since they were both black tribes that couldn't be distinguished otherwise.
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Two weeks, guess Whoopi will take a vacation in some non-restrictive state.
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I guess she never heard of Sammy Davis Jr... :shrug:

(Or Ethiopian Jews).
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I guess she never heard of Sammy Davis Jr... :shrug:

(Or Ethiopian Jews).
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I guess the whole Tutsi vs Hutu wasn't about race either.... according to Whoopi. Since they were both black tribes that couldn't be distinguished otherwise.


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Whoopi definitely wasn't "suspended." She sat down with producers and they agreed that Rubber Rooming her for a couple of weeks will take the heat off and also give the impression that they took it seriously and "did something." This isn't cancel culture. You're being played.
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Whoopi definitely wasn't "suspended." She sat down with producers and they agreed that Rubber Rooming her for a couple of weeks will take the heat off and also give the impression that they took it seriously and "did something." This isn't cancel culture. You're being played.
8:35 AM · Feb 2, 2022·

Exactly.  She'll be back on the air before the month is out overflowing with righteous indignation.
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Whoopi definitely wasn't "suspended." She sat down with producers and they agreed that Rubber Rooming her for a couple of weeks will take the heat off and also give the impression that they took it seriously and "did something." This isn't cancel culture. You're being played.
8:35 AM · Feb 2, 2022·

Bingo!

She got a nice all-expenses-paid two-week vacation, nothing more.

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Whoopi Goldberg Suspended by ABC After Doubling Down on Antisemitic Comments
By Bonchie | Feb 01, 2022 10:15 PM ET

Per RedState’s original report on the matter, Whoopi Goldberg found herself in hot water the last couple of days for an antisemitic rant she gave on The View. The longtime co-host of the ABC daytime show asserted that the Holocaust was not “about race” and that it was “white people doing it to white people.”

But it was the context of her comments that made things especially egregious. Goldberg was expressing a common antisemitic trope, which is that the systematic extermination of the Jewish people during the Holocaust was not equivalent to the racial discrimination suffered by other groups. That is, of course, ludicrous and completely ahistorical.

After putting out an apology, Goldberg then went on Stephen Colbert’s show that evening and essentially doubled down.

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‘The View’ co-hosts react to Whoopi Goldberg’s suspension: ‘This isn’t going to just blow over’


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The best take I've seen on this is the suggestion by a New York Post columnist that if Caryn Johnson feels that way she should drop the name "Goldberg" she appropriated from another cultural and racial group.  (Whoopi she can keep.)
And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was all about.

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The best take I've seen on this is the suggestion by a New York Post columnist that if Caryn Johnson feels that way she should drop the name "Goldberg" she appropriated from another cultural and racial group.  (Whoopi she can keep.)

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The author is John Podhoretz

NY Post article:  https://nypost.com/2022/02/01/drop-the-goldberg-name-you-co-opted-whoopi-you-dont-deserve-it/

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Whoopi definitely wasn't "suspended." She sat down with producers and they agreed that Rubber Rooming her for a couple of weeks will take the heat off and also give the impression that they took it seriously and "did something." This isn't cancel culture. You're being played.
8:35 AM · Feb 2, 2022·

Thinking the same thing, here.

This was a 'Gulf of Tonkin' moment for them...making it much easier to go after their opposition.
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February 2, 2022
Whoopi Goldberg gets a slap on the wrist with a limp noodle
By Andrea Widburg

The headlines in the media all claim some variation of "Whoopi Goldberg suspended."  Dig down, though, and it turns out that Goldberg received only a two-week suspension for parroting standard leftist claptrap that manages to reduce the Holocaust to nothing more than a catfight among White people.  Whoopi's always been a moronic, uninformed bigmouth, so I can't say I'm surprised by what she said.  Currently, the most infuriating thing about her "punishment" is the knowledge that, if she had been White or conservative, she would have been fired.

This whole thing is unbelievably tedious, and it's just too painful to repeat it all.  You can go here to see why Jews (and righteous non-Jews) were offended by what she said.

Here's what happened after Whoopi said her stupid stuff and gave a mealy-mouthed, barely-there, rote apology:

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This gives me an idea for a Broadway remake of a classic musical play ...

Instead of "Westside Story", it's called "Whiteside Story" ...

Instead of the gang names being "Jets" and "Sharks", theu would be named "Honkies" and "Crackers" ...

The marquee would read "Whoopie Goldberg proudly presents a Whoopie Goldberg Production of 'Whiteside Story'".
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MEGHAN MCCAIN: There's no point calling for Whoopi to be fired - her half-assed apology for antisemitism only shows again the double standards television holds for liberals and conservatives

By Meghan Mccain For Dailymail.Com

Published: 17:19 EST, 1 February 2022 | Updated: 17:44 EST, 1 February 2022

   
In the six months since I left The View, I haven't watched a single episode of the show.

My life has moved on.

Between this column and other projects and above all a toddler, who is the most demanding and adorable diva in my life.

The other day she insisted on having her bunny rabbit shoes and wouldn't take no for an answer; see I just don't have the time for my old friends on the show.

Nonetheless, when something goes viral from the show or ends up in the publications that I read I can't help but feel a twinge of disappointment.

It's not that I expect compelling or nuanced political discussions from daytime television, but it's sad to see the recent litany of embarrassing moments from a show I invested so much time and effort in trying to elevate to a more serious level.

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This gives me an idea for a Broadway remake of a classic musical play ...

Instead of "Westside Story", it's called "Whiteside Story" ...

Instead of the gang names being "Jets" and "Sharks", theu would be named "Honkies" and "Crackers" ...

The marquee would read "Whoopie Goldberg proudly presents a Whoopie Goldberg Production of 'Whiteside Story'".



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Maybe we can follow up with a presentation of "Springtime for Whoopi"?