EXCLUSIVE: Eight very anxious men: Ghislaine Maxwell GIVES UP battle to keep identities of high-prof

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EXCLUSIVE: Eight very anxious men: Ghislaine Maxwell GIVES UP battle to keep identities of high-profile John Does named in civil lawsuit sealed after Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre demands they be made public

    Attorneys for Virginia Giuffre have asked a judge to unseal material from an earlier civil lawsuit she filed against Ghislaine Maxwell
    The documents are said to contain 'vast swathes of information' about Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell's 'sex trafficking operation' and references eight John Does
    The individuals are identified in court documents only as 'Non-Parties 17, 53, 54, 55, 56, 73, 93 and 151' - it is not clear if one of them Prince Andrew
    Maxwell, 60, who last month was found guilty of procuring girls for the late pedophile, had previously opposed making the documents public
    But Maxwell's attorney on Wednesday told Judge Loretta Preska that her client does not wish to 'further address those objections'
    Should Judge Preska unseal the documents in her case they could shed new light on the Duke of York's alleged dealings with Maxwell and Epstein 
    The request came on the day Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled that Giuffre's separate battery lawsuit against Prince Andrew can move forward

By Daniel Bates For Dailymail.com

Published: 02:12 EST, 13 January 2022 | Updated: 18:49 EST, 13 January 2022

Ghislaine Maxwell has given up on her battle to keep 'vast swathes of information' about her 'sex trafficking operation' with Jeffrey Epstein sealed after alleged victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre requested they be made public.

Attorneys for Giuffre, who has accused Prince Andrew of sexual abuse, asked Judge Loretta Preska Wednesday to unseal material from her 2015 civil lawsuit against Maxwell that includes references to eight anonymous John Does.

The individuals are identified in court documents only as 'Non-Parties 17, 53, 54, 55, 56, 73, 93 and 151'.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10397345/Prince-Andrews-accusers-lawyers-demand-unsealing-information-Epstein-Maxwell.html

[Kamaji]

Has the suicide-pool on Maxwell been upped?

[mystery-ak]

EXCLUSIVE: Jeffrey Epstein brought EIGHT young women with him on his trips to see Bill Clinton at the White House: Displayed  photos of himself posing at the Briefing Room podium at his Palm Beach mansion

    Visitor logs obtained by DailyMail.com reveal Jeffrey Epstein was not always alone when he visited the Clinton White House between 1993 and 1995
    Records show he brought along eight women, including his girlfriends Celina Midelfart, Eva Andersson, Francis Jardine, and Ghislaine Maxwell
    His relationship with the four other women who accompanied him - Jennifer Garrison; Shelley Gafni; Jennifer Driver; Lyoubov Orlova - is unclear
    Flight logs from Epstein's private planes tally with White House visitor records showing the eight women were with him during his visits
    Maxwell's high-profile trial in New York heard sensational claims that Epstein was seeing Midelfart, now 48, - a Norwegian heiress - in the mid 1990s
    Andersson, 61, a physician and former Miss Sweden, was also a witness in the sex trafficking trial where she confirmed she dated Epstein in the 80s and 90s
    The nature of Epstein's accompanied visits is not disclosed in White House visitor logs, but one of them coincided with a swanky dinner in the Blue Room
    Never-before-seen photos also reveal the disgraced financier kept pictures of himself at the White House Briefing Room podium at his Palm Beach mansion

By Daniel Bates and Thomas Volscho For Dailymail.Com

Published: 14:08 EST, 13 January 2022 | Updated: 14:52 EST, 13 January 2022

Jeffrey Epstein paid more than a dozen visits to the Clinton White House throughout the former president's first few years in office - even bringing along with him multiple women, including four known to be his girlfriends, DailyMail.com can reveal.

Unearthed visitor logs last month confirmed the late pedophile had visited the Executive Mansion at least 17 times during Bill Clinton's first term, beginning shortly after his inauguration in 1993.   

Additional records exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com now reveal that Epstein was not always alone during his trips to the White House, where he was joined by eight different women between 1993 and 1995.

Never-before-seen footage also shows the disgraced financier - who on three occasions visited the president's house twice in one day - kept framed pictures of himself at the podium of the White House Briefing Room at his Palm Beach mansion.

The nature of Epstein's accompanied visits is not disclosed in the visitor logs, however, they show one of them coincided with a dinner in the Blue Room attended by dozens of well-heeled guests. 



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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10394863/Jeffrey-Epstein-brought-eight-women-Clinton-White-House.html

[rustynail]

Is eight enough?

[libertybele]

..and??? Like anything will ever become of this?? 

[mountaineer]

There was a time Ghislaine Maxwell was described in the press as Clinton's girlfriend.

[libertybele]

There was a time Ghislaine Maxwell was described in the press as Clinton's girlfriend.

That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[mountaineer]

It was before I'd ever heard of Epstein, I know that.

[goatprairie]

And they sang for the boys too.

[libertybele]

And they sang for the boys too.

OMG!!! Absolutely rolling here .... I have tears.     

[verga]

 

[mountaineer]

Jeffrey was alarmed when he thought Bill had converted to LDS, but realized he'd misheard Bubba when he said, "Bring 'em young."

[Free Vulcan]

And they sang for the boys too.

Where, where, are you tonight?
Why did you leave me here all alone?
I searched the world over,
And thought I found true love.
You met another and
Phht! you were gone.

[mystery-ak]

 Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep names of 8 ‘John Does’ secret
By Isabel Vincent   
January 15, 2022 5:04pm

Convicted sex-trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to protect the identity of eight johns who allegedly had sex with young women she and her billionaire pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein procured for them.

A lawyer for Maxwell stated in a letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska this week that she would no longer object to the identities of the “John Does” in a 2015 civil lawsuit brought against Maxwell by Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre.

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https://nypost.com/2022/01/15/ghislaine-maxwell-will-no-longer-fight-to-keep-names-of-8-john-does-secret/

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Topics merged.

[libertybele]

Has the suicide-pool on Maxwell been upped?

I'm really surprised she's lasted this long.  Certainly Billy Bob has reason for concern. Perhaps he's no longer considered the asset he once was and now is a liability.

[Smokin Joe]

If there are 151 on the list, how about the whole roster? Or did those 8 refuse to pay?

[sneakypete]

I'm really surprised she's lasted this long.  Certainly Billy Bob has reason for concern. Perhaps he's no longer considered the asset he once was and now is a liability.

@libertybele

Bubba ain't worried about anything. He will smile,shuffle his feet,and then say,"Ah shucks,it was the youthful indiscretions of a young man in his 50's.",and the media will eat it like steak while admiring him for coming forward and demanding  he be elected again.

Bubba is made from teflon.


Bubbette!,on the other hand,is not QUITE as charming,and I would NOT be surprised to see proof she was visiting with the young girls,too.

AND.....,I have to be honest here,even if it helps the Demonic Duo. They weren't young girls. They were and still are whores wanting to associate with wealth and power,and willing to do anything to be a part of that crowd.

[sneakypete]

If there are 151 on the list, how about the whole roster? Or did those 8 refuse to pay?

@Smokin Joe

I seriously doubt they were ever charged a dime. They were practically a guarantee that Maxwell and his associates would never be busted.

Yeah,it fell apart at the end,but this was only because they got so cocky about being untouchable  that it became so public it could no longer be ignored.

They hanged themselves.

[verga]

 

[mountaineer]

During Hillary Clinton’s 2016 Presidential Run, Epstein’s Lawyer Asked Couple Who Had Managed ‘Pedophile Island’ To Swear Bill Clinton Was Never There: Report
"There was a worry that the link between Epstein and Clinton and in particular the island could be used against Hillary."
By  Hank Berrien
Jan 17, 2022   

According to The Daily Mail, in 2016, while Hillary Clinton was running for president, Jeffrey Epstein’s attorney contacted the couple who managed Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean between 1999 to 2007 and asked them to sign a sworn affidavit declaring they had never seen former President Bill Clinton on Little St. James, reportedly known by locals as “Pedophile Island.”

Darren Indyke reportedly contacted Miles and Cathy Alexander, according to The Daily Mail’s source, and not only asked them to state they had not seen Bill Clinton on the island during their tenure there, but also to stated that they were not aware of him having visited the island even when they were absent themselves.

“It was during the 2016 presidential campaign which was won by Trump. There was a worry that the link between Epstein and Clinton and in particular the island could be used against Hillary, the source explained.

Years prior to that exchange, just before the Alexanders left Epstein’s employ, Indyke allegedly asked Miles Alexander to meet him on the nearby island of St. Thomas and bring the log books showing all the arrival and departure records for Little St. James. “These ledgers were handed to Indyke by Mr. Alexander, who never saw them again,” The Daily Mail reported, asking. “Why did this happen? Presumably the records would have contained names of Epstein’s VIP friends and girls by whom the tycoon liked to be surrounded. Wasn’t that evidence? Where are the records now?”

Bill Clinton has denied ever being on Little St. James, but Epstein’s “little black book” of contacts “contained several email addresses and no fewer than 21 telephone numbers for Clinton,” The Daily Mail noted. Additionally, between February 2002 and November 2003 Clinton’s name as a passenger was on flight logs for Epstein’s planes at least 26 times. ...

Daily Wire

[GtHawk]

@libertybele

Bubba ain't worried about anything. He will smile,shuffle his feet,and then say,"Ah shucks,it was the youthful indiscretions of a young man in his 50's.",and the media will eat it like steak while admiring him for coming forward and demanding  he be elected again.

Bubba is made from teflon.


Bubbette!,on the other hand,is not QUITE as charming,and I would NOT be surprised to see proof she was visiting with the young girls,too.

AND.....,I have to be honest here,even if it helps the Demonic Duo. They weren't young girls. They were and still are whores wanting to associate with wealth and power,and willing to do anything to be a part of that crowd.

Much simpler to say Bubba is likeable whereas the Shrew, well nobody likes the Shrew, they may attach themselves to her oh so wide wagon to rake in what crumbs they could, but like her?

[Right_in_Virginia]

..and??? Like anything will ever become of this??

Agree @libertybele   

[berdie]

So, imho, if this comes to be, it's because Maxwell doesn't feel that she has much to lose. She probably feels that her days are numbered.

As for the eight men?? It really doesn't matter (in this case) if you did the crime. Once accused, always tainted....unless you are Bubba.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Bubba ain't worried about anything. He will smile,shuffle his feet,and then say,"Ah shucks,it was the youthful indiscretions of a young man in his 50's.",and the media will eat it like steak while admiring him for coming forward and demanding  he be elected again.

Bubba is made from teflon.


Bubbette!,on the other hand,is not QUITE as charming,and I would NOT be surprised to see proof she was visiting with the young girls,too.

AND.....,I have to be honest here,even if it helps the Demonic Duo. They weren't young girls. They were and still are whores wanting to associate with wealth and power,and willing to do anything to be a part of that crowd.

??? Whores ???  From my understanding many of these girls were underage, kidnapped and drugged.  My question is, why didn't the parents report a lost child to the authorities?  Perhaps they did?

[DCPatriot]

??? Whores ???  From my understanding many of these girls were underage, kidnapped and drugged.  My question is, why didn't the parents report a lost child to the authorities?  Perhaps they did?

Please provide any link proving they were underaged...kidnapped...and/or drugged.

If that were the case, there would be HUNDREDS of claims already. 

You can't.  You can't because the girls were 100% willing and every single one was sexually active.

Jeffrey Epstein became a gazillionaire by finding a niche and filling it.   Yeah, he was blackmailing and extorting...but every single 'John' that was compromised ...whether John Roberts or Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton all want this to go away rather than the alternative.

[sneakypete]

??? Whores ???  From my understanding many of these girls were underage, kidnapped and drugged. 

@libertybele

I guess you didn't see the photos of them at parties with the rich old men,wearing designer dresses,drinking what APPEARED to be cocktails,and smiling for the cameras.

Whores.

Whores come in all ages,all sizes,and from all ethnic groups,but they are still whores.

My question is, why didn't the parents report a lost child to the authorities? 

Most likely because they were getting paid rental fees in one form or another.

Perhaps they did?

Not a chance.

[sneakypete]

Please provide any link proving they were underaged...kidnapped...and/or drugged.

If that were the case, there would be HUNDREDS of claims already. 

You can't.  You can't because the girls were 100% willing and every single one was sexually active.

Jeffrey Epstein became a gazillionaire by finding a niche and filling it.   Yeah, he was blackmailing and extorting...but every single 'John' that was compromised ...whether John Roberts or Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton all want this to go away rather than the alternative.

@DCPatriot

BINGO!

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

BINGO!

@sneakypete   

[mystery-ak]

Ghislaine Maxwell Ends Fight to Keep Eight ‘John Does’ Secret

Paul Bois 17 Jan 2022

Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep the names of eight “John Does” secret, leaving it up to the court to decide whether or not to reveal their identities.

“After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, 73, 93 and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections,” Maxwell attorney Laura Menninger wrote in a letter on January 12.

“Each of the listed Does has counsel who have ably asserted their own respective privacy rights. Ms. Maxwell therefore leaves it to this Court to conduct the appropriate review,” it added.

The Does were named in a 2015 defamation suit against Ghislaine Maxwell from Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who claimed that Maxwell aided in Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual abuse of her as a minor. Guiffre attorney Sigrid McCawley argued that potential embarrassment for having associated with Jeffrey Epstein should not be enough reason for the court to keep the John Does’ names secret. McCawley wrote:

    [G]eneralized aversion to embarrassment and negativity that may come from being associated with Epstein and Maxwell is not enough to warrant continued sealing of information. This is especially true with respect to this case of great public interest, involving serious allegations of the sex trafficking of minors.

    Now that Maxwell’s criminal trial has come and gone, there is little reason to retain protection over the vast swaths of information about Epstein and Maxwell’s sex-trafficking operation that were originally filed under seal in this case.

Last month, a jury convicted former Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell of sex trafficking of minors, transporting a minor with the intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, and three counts of conspiracy. She will not be sentenced until June of this year and could face up to 60 years in prison.

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https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/01/17/ghislaine-maxwell-ends-fight-to-keep-eight-john-does-secret/

[verga]

Please provide any link proving they were underaged...kidnapped...and/or drugged.

If that were the case, there would be HUNDREDS of claims already. 

You can't.  You can't because the girls were 100% willing and every single one was sexually active.

Jeffrey Epstein became a gazillionaire by finding a niche and filling it.   Yeah, he was blackmailing and extorting...but every single 'John' that was compromised ...whether John Roberts or Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton all want this to go away rather than the alternative.

@DCPatriot Google is your friend:
Girls as young as 11. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/797011139/u-s-virgin-islands-officials-epstein-trafficked-girls-on-private-island-until-20
16 year old girl https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell.html
 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/16/jeffrey-epstein-virgin-islands-lawsuit/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/horrors-of-jeffrey-epstein-private-island
17 year old having sex with prince Andrew. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-names-whos-who-873321/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-used-database-to-track-underage-girls-held-captive-at-virgins-islands-lawsuit-says

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot Google is your friend:
Girls as young as 11. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/797011139/u-s-virgin-islands-officials-epstein-trafficked-girls-on-private-island-until-20
16 year old girl https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell.html
 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/01/16/jeffrey-epstein-virgin-islands-lawsuit/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/horrors-of-jeffrey-epstein-private-island
17 year old having sex with prince Andrew. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-names-whos-who-873321/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-used-database-to-track-underage-girls-held-captive-at-virgins-islands-lawsuit-says

@verga   Thank you.

That's all I'll say.     

[Smokin Joe]

Please provide any link proving they were underaged...kidnapped...and/or drugged.

If that were the case, there would be HUNDREDS of claims already. 

You can't.  You can't because the girls were 100% willing and every single one was sexually active.

Jeffrey Epstein became a gazillionaire by finding a niche and filling it.   Yeah, he was blackmailing and extorting...but every single 'John' that was compromised ...whether John Roberts or Prince Andrew or Bill Clinton all want this to go away rather than the alternative.

Unfortunately, the world of illicit sex gets a lot darker than merely exploiting nubile and perhaps willing underage young ladies (and boys). Those, (should that particular appetite have been catered to) will never step forward, whether they were skimmed off the streets or ''purchased' in some trafficking operation, and will remain missing from somewhere, perhaps written off by CPS or parents or police as cold cases that will never be solved.

Most likely, they were not abducted, but recruited from the streets and offered something better than the squalor they had inhabited as incentive.

But like momma said...Don't talk to strangers, don't take any candy from people you don't know...