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Biden says he's making 500 million COVID test kits available for free but hasn't even signed a contract to buy them or set up website to order them: Johns Hopkins expert says 'that's not a plan - it's a hope'

    Biden accused of issuing a 'hope' rather than a plan by Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins
    'If those tests came in January and February, that could have an impact, but if they are spread out over 10 to 12 months, I'm not sure what kind of impact it is going to have,' the expert said
    It is not even known how many tests will be immediately available or how quickly they can be shipped out
    Amazon, Walgreens and CVS this week imposed limits on how many tests each customer can buy
    Comes amid warnings that Covid could infect 140m between January and March - 60% of all Americans
    But despite the gloom the new British studies give Biden - who has promised no lockdowns - fresh optimism
    Scientists at Imperial College London found the chance of having to stay in hospital overnight 40% lower
    Second study from Scotland on Wednesday said risk of being hospitalized with Omicron was 65% less likely

By Ronny Reyes For Dailymail.Com

Published: 00:32 EST, 23 December 2021 | Updated: 07:16 EST, 23 December 2021

Joe Biden has promised to deliver 500 million Covid tests but hasn't even signed a contract to buy them or set up a website so that people can place orders.

'That's not a plan - it's a hope,' Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told The New York Time.

'If those tests came in January and February, that could have an impact, but if they are spread out over 10 to 12 months, I'm not sure what kind of impact it is going to have.'

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Why do people who are not ill get tested?

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Why do people who are not ill get tested?

The only non-ill people who need to be tested are jabbed people who have no SARS-2 antibodies.
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Why do people who are not ill get tested?

For one thing, because they have to if they were potentially exposed to someone who was covid-positive.

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Biden says he's making 500 million COVID test kits available for free

Consider for a moment the market.  You have test kit manufacturers like Abbott Labs manufacturing kits as fast as possible for store shelves.  Yet now, the government drops a 500 million order in their laps.  Guess what happens?  No more Abbot kits available in stores any more.

Manufacturers are having problems meeting demand as it is.  Yet demand is about to increase by 500 million. Idiots.
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Consider for a moment the market.  You have test kit manufacturers like Abbott Labs manufacturing kits as fast as possible for store shelves.  Yet now, the government drops a 500 million order in their laps.  Guess what happens?  No more Abbot kits available in stores any more.

Manufacturers are having problems meeting demand as it is.  Yet demand is about to increase by 500 million. Idiots.

Exactly.

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The only non-ill people who need to be tested are jabbed people who have no SARS-2 antibodies.

Depends on what one means by "need".  At work, I was in close proximity to someone who, immediately thereafter, came down with symptoms and tested positive for covid-19.  In order to be able to come back to the office, I had to provide a negative covid test.  In other words, I "needed" a test result to continue my employment.  It had nothing to do with whether I was sick, or otherwise feeling symptoms.


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Depends on what one means by "need".  At work, I was in close proximity to someone who, immediately thereafter, came down with symptoms and tested positive for covid-19.  In order to be able to come back to the office, I had to provide a negative covid test.  In other words, I "needed" a test result to continue my employment.  It had nothing to do with whether I was sick, or otherwise feeling symptoms.

Is the same policy in effect for jabbed people?  In other words, if you had proof of being "fully vaccinated [sic]", would you still have had to undergo testing?

My own company has a policy in effect that if unjabbed workers travel on a plane, then they are not allowed in the office for the next ten days unless they get a negative test result.  But jabbed workers can return to the office immediately without having to take a test.  To me, this makes no sense.
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Is the same policy in effect for jabbed people?  In other words, if you had proof of being "fully vaccinated [sic]", would you still have had to undergo testing?

My own company has a policy in effect that if unjabbed workers travel on a plane, then they are not allowed in the office for the next ten days unless they get a negative test result.  But jabbed workers can return to the office immediately without having to take a test.  To me, this makes no sense.

In terms of testing after potential exposure?  Yes.

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My daughter works for a company that does covid test kits and test analysis and she just told me the ran 700 tests yesterday and had 57 positives...less than 10% but the most they every had in a single day.

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My daughter works for a company that does covid test kits and test analysis and she just told me the ran 700 tests yesterday and had 57 positives...less than 10% but the most they every had in a single day.

Probably picking up on omicron infections.

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Anyone testing for the seasonal flu?

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Anyone testing for the seasonal flu?
Took my mom to Kaiser on Monday and they were pushing flu shots like crazy, when they asked me If I wanted one I asked them why in the world I would get a flu shot since Covid had killed the flu? That's when they said "the flu is just as deadly as Covid". I not sure but I they they were offended that I laughed so long and hard.

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With all this talk about test shortages, here is a rundown of how many tests each State has used per case load:


State Tests per Case
Vermont       46.4
Massachusetts       33.9
District Of Columbia       32.5
Rhode Island       29.9
Hawaii       29.5
Maine       29.1
Connecticut       27.9
New York       26.8
Maryland       24.8
Alaska       24.4
California       23
Illinois       21.4
Oregon       20.8
New Hampshire       20
New Mexico       16.4
Minnesota       16.1
Colorado       15.7
Louisiana       15.3
USA Total       15.1
West Virginia       15
Virginia       14.9
South Carolina       13.8
Indiana       13.6
Kentucky       13.3
Nebraska       13.3
North Carolina       13.2
Michigan       12.5
Missouri       12.3
Utah       12.3
Iowa       12.3
Wisconsin       12.1
Washington       12
Nevada       11.9
Florida       11.6
Montana       11.5
New Jersey       11.5
Arizona       11.4
Texas       11.1
Georgia       10.8
Pennsylvania       10.8
Wyoming       10.4
Arkansas       10.4
South Dakota       10.2
Ohio       10
Mississippi       8.5
Tennessee       8.1
Idaho       7.6
Alabama       7.4
Oklahoma       6.9
Delaware       5.4
Kansas       3.9
North Dakota       3.3



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I had to cut/paste this recent quote from Fauxci concerning the event where Trump was booed for vaccine support.  Your mouth will drop from shock from the incredible level of arrogance and condescension :

“I was a bit dismayed when former President Trump came out and made that statement, and his followers booed him, which I was stunned by that,” the chief White House medical adviser replied. “I mean, given the fact of how popular he is with that group, that they would boo him, which tells me how recalcitrant they are about being told what they should do.”


This scope of tyranny can not go unanswered!!!!!!
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which tells me how recalcitrant they are about being told what they should do.”


Being told what one should do is one thing.  Being forced to do so under threat of imprisonment is an entirely different matter.  Fascists like Fauci are pushing the latter.
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Took my mom to Kaiser on Monday and they were pushing flu shots like crazy, when they asked me If I wanted one I asked them why in the world I would get a flu shot since Covid had killed the flu? That's when they said "the flu is just as deadly as Covid". I not sure but I they they were offended that I laughed so long and hard.

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Why do people who are not ill get tested?
I had to be tested and produce a negative result before having my surgery last May. Now I'm facing another surgery. Wanna bet this time they'll insist I get jabbed? (It's already postponed indefinitely because the hospital isn't scheduling "elective" surgeries).
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I had to be tested and produce a negative result before having my surgery last May. Now I'm facing another surgery. Wanna bet this time they'll insist I get jabbed? (It's already postponed indefinitely because the hospital isn't scheduling "elective" surgeries).
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Good luck.  It seems like this Insanity will never end.

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Good luck.  It seems like this Insanity will never end.
I wonder. I may be paralyzed before it does.
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Why do people who are not ill get tested?
  International travel. I did it in May and November of 2021.

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I am attending a wedding ceremony on Tuesday, and the venue requires a negative Covid test.  So I had to hit three drug stores before finding one that had rapid at-home tests.  It pisses me off so much that I have to do this, a part of me would be relieved to test 'positive'.  Anyway, in the face of a shortage, I am wasting three tests on my asymptomatic family.
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As I've mentioned, my musician sister had to apply for a medical and religious exemption from the vax from her employer, and it was more or less granted. She still has to show a negative test before every performance, apparently, and wear a mask throughout.

 The home Covid test she's using indicates positive or negative by means of a color change, similar to a pregnancy test. The employer seems satisfied if she just texts a photo of the test swab indicating the "negative" color. Having discovered the color doesn't fade, she and one of her unvaccinated coworkers now photograph the exact same used test swab every time they  have to send it to the employer. She just moves the swab around the house for a new photo, so they don't catch on it's the same picture she sent last week.  This week, the bathroom sink, next week the kitchen table. :laugh:
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As I've mentioned, my musician sister had to apply for a medical and religious exemption from the vax from her employer, and it was more or less granted. She still has to show a negative test before every performance, apparently, and wear a mask throughout.

 The home Covid test she's using indicates positive or negative by means of a color change, similar to a pregnancy test. The employer seems satisfied if she just texts a photo of the test swab indicating the "negative" color. Having discovered the color doesn't fade, she and one of her unvaccinated coworkers now photograph the exact same used test swab every time they  have to send it to the employer. She just moves the swab around the house for a new photo, so they don't catch on it's the same picture she sent last week.  This week, the bathroom sink, next week the kitchen table. :laugh:

Beating "The Man" at its own game!  She should periodically get a new one, just in case.

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My SIL who is visiting for Christmas break just took one of those home tests I mentioned a few posts back.  It came back positive.  Not sure what the protocol is from this point forward for everyone else in the house.  I am supposed to attend a wedding rehearsal today for my son, so I'm thinking I may need to cancel that plan.
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Too little.  Too late.  Joe Biden ruined Christmas 2021.
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Too little.  Too late.  Joe Biden ruined Christmas 2021.

I don't know.  His little episode with NORAD Christmas Eve proving himself as an idiot was a nice little Stocking Stuffer.   :cool:
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Beating "The Man" at its own game!  She should periodically get a new one, just in case.

I would get a picture with a swab covered in blood, and drops of blood all over the counter.
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I trust those at home tests as much as I trust Appalachian gas station caviar. If you test positive, you are supposed to go get a better test to see if the at home test was correct. If it is negative, you are supposed to trust that.  It makes no sense.
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I trust those at home tests as much as I trust Appalachian gas station caviar.

The correct terminology is 'shad roe'.


If you test positive, you are supposed to go get a better test to see if the at home test was correct. If it is negative, you are supposed to trust that.  It makes no sense.

Spot on.  The tests are only good for the moment you take them.  What you come in contact with 30 minutes later is not reflected in the test you already took.  The ONLY test that matters is an anti-body test, because it proves that your body is equipped with microbes that kill SARS-2 viruses, something that the jab doesn't do.

I sit here at home with a Covid-positive person in the house and two Covid tests left.  I have to attend a wedding rehearsal today and a wedding tomorrow.  The venue requires a negative test result for entry.  I can show them a negative test result today, but I could be contagious tomorrow.  Don't think I can score another test by tomorrow.  Every place is sold out because of asinine rules put in place by idiot venue venders.

Meanwhile, the Covid case of my SIL can be traced back to a jabbed person she worked with a few days ago.  The person took a test that came back positive, but didn't tell anyone because she thought the jab would take care of everything.  SIL is staying in her bedroom with the windows open.  I could have it, but not yet showing symptoms.  But all that matters is some test stick that is becoming more scarce.  It isn't the Covid that pisses me off.  It is the idiocy that has permeated our entire society because of it.
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I don't know.  His little episode with NORAD Christmas Eve proving himself as an idiot was a nice little Stocking Stuffer.   :cool:

It sure was.   88devil