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« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2022, 09:12:05 pm »
Webb Space Telescope Begins Its Months-Long Mirror Alignment

SciTechDaily 1/12/2022

https://scitechdaily.com/webb-space-telescope-begins-its-months-long-mirror-alignment/

Webb has begun the detailed process of fine-tuning its individual optics into one huge, precise telescope.

Engineers first commanded actuators – 126 devices that will move and shape the primary mirror segments, and six devices that will position the secondary mirror – to verify that all are working as expected after launch. The team also commanded actuators that guide Webb’s fine steering mirror to make minor movements, confirming they are working as expected. The fine steering mirror is critical to the process of image stabilization.

Ground teams have now begun instructing the primary mirror segments and secondary mirror to move from their stowed-for-launch configuration, off of snubbers that kept them snug and safe from rattling from vibration. These movements will take at least ten days, after which engineers can begin the three-month process of aligning the segments to perform as a single mirror.


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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2022, 08:19:35 am »
Thanks for the updates!

Still got all my fingers crossed, though.

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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2022, 08:44:24 am »
What will the James Webb Space Telescope look at first?

Space.com By Elizabeth Howell 1/14/2022

https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-first-observing-targets

"The first images are going to be ugly."

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As the James Webb Space Telescope begins the lengthy process of aligning its 18 primary mirror segments, a question burns in the astronomical community: What will the huge observatory look at first?

Webb soared into space successfully on Dec. 25 and successfully completed its major deployments about two weeks later while speeding toward its ultimate destination: the Earth-sun Lagrange Point 2 (L2), a gravitationally stable spot in space about 930,000 miles (1.5 million kilometers) away from our planet.

The telescope includes 18 hexagonal mirror segments that need to be gradually aligned into a single, nearly perfect light-collecting surface. A necessary part of that process is taking images of the sky to see how well the alignment is proceeding, but Jane Rigby, Webb operations project scientist, warned everyone not to expect much from the "first light" of Webb.

"The first images are going to be ugly. It is going to be blurry. We'll [have] 18 of these little images all over the sky," Rigby told reporters during a livestreamed press conference on Saturday (Jan. 8) discussing the successful deployment of Webb's 21.3-foot-wide (6.3 meters) primary mirror that day. Rigby was speaking from NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, where telescope operations are centered.

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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2022, 09:52:03 pm »
The Webb telescope reaches its final deployment challenge

Inverse by Jon Kelvey 1/20/2022

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As of Wednesday, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) has a fully deployed primary mirror, with each of its 18-mirror segments fully extended and ready for fine focusing later. That leaves one final task for JWST before reaching its destination for operations — an orbital insertion burn expected to take place Monday, January 24.

As of Thursday afternoon, JWST was barely 35,000 miles from its destination, Lagrangian point 2 (L2), around 1 million miles from Earth. A point where the Sun and Earth’s gravity cancel out, orbit L2 allows JWST to maintain a constant position relative to Earth as they both orbit the Sun.

Once in orbit around L2, JWST’s optics and instruments will undergo more months of fine-tuning and testing before the historically powerful space telescope begins peering deep into the distant reaches of time and space.

If all goes well and according to plan, ground operators will fire JWST’s thrusters at 2 p.m. Eastern on Monday, and the space telescope will finally take up its deep space perch shortly thereafter. NASA will host a live broadcast about JWST’s successes so far at 3 p.m. on the space agency’s YouTube channel, NASA Science Live website, and its Facebook and Twitter accounts.

But arrival at L2 marks only the end of one portion of JWST’s journey. With all deployments out of the way, JWST will enter the commissioning phase, beginning with what NASA calls the “wavefront process.”

The wavefront process will see ground operators use the six actuators attached to each of the now free-to-move mirror segments to make nanometer-scale adjustments to ensure the 18 segments focus light as one large primary mirror. This process of aligning the mirror segments so that JWST produces focused images will take about three months.

Following the mirror alignment, JWST’s scientific instruments must be calibrated and tested, which will take many more weeks. NASA expects JWST’s first scientific observations to begin sometime in the summer.

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« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2022, 06:39:43 pm »
NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope reaches its final destination after million-mile journey

Houston Chronicle by Andrea Leinfelder 1/24/2022

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/NASA-s-James-Webb-Space-Telescope-reaches-its-16800450.php

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The James Webb Space Telescope has traveled nearly 1 million miles to its final destination, completing another milestone in a months-long commissioning that must be completed before Webb will take its first images this summer.

“Webb, welcome home!” NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said in a news release. “Congratulations to the team for all of their hard work ensuring Webb’s safe arrival. We’re one step closer to uncovering the mysteries of the universe.”

The telescope will orbit the sun at the second sun-Earth Lagrange point. This Lagrange point, named for 18th century Italian astronomer and mathematician Joseph-Louis Lagrange, is a location where the gravitational forces of the sun and Earth are in equilibrium.

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2022, 07:31:11 pm »
NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope reaches its final destination after million-mile journey

Houston Chronicle by Andrea Leinfelder 1/24/2022

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/space/article/NASA-s-James-Webb-Space-Telescope-reaches-its-16800450.php



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« Reply #57 on: January 25, 2022, 10:32:40 am »
Forget Biden: We Just Parked a Telescope a Million Miles in Space to Peer Deep Into the Origins of Time
By Andrew Malcolm | Jan 25, 2022 9:00 AM ET

This story is not for cynics, nor folks who lack imagination or national pride.

After nearly 40 expensive years of dreaming, planning, designing, building, congressional whining, testing, and hoping, NASA and its army of very smart people have placed into solar orbit a powerful new seven-ton telescope.

It’s capable of detecting infrared light that’s been traveling through the void of space at the speed of light since the earliest moments in time. That is to say, more than 13 billion Earth years ago.

The new telescope’s success so far is just one of our nation’s numerous recent space achievements: Landing robots to explore Mars. Flying a research robot through the Sun’s aura. Snatching a scoop of primordial soil from a distant asteroid and bringing it back in the fall of 2023.

And, of course, little Voyager I launched in 1977 now 10 years into interstellar space nearly 15 billion miles away and adding 38,210 more every hour. The loyal little craft still reports in daily via radio signals that take 19 hours to reach NASA’s giant Goldstone dish in California.

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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2022, 10:22:36 pm »
Future dreams in view as Canadian instruments power up aboard James Webb Space Telescope

The Globe and Mail by Ivan Semeniuk 1/28/2022

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-future-dreams-in-view-as-canadian-instruments-power-up-aboard-james/

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Five weeks after rocketing off the Earth, two Canadian components that are crucial to the operations and success of the James Webb Space Telescope are set to face their first big test.

On Friday morning, the Fine Guidance Sensor (FGS) and the Near Infrared Imager and Slitless Spectrograph (NIRISS) were switched on for the first time since the mammoth astronomical satellite was launched on Christmas Day. Both instruments were built in Ottawa by the Canadian aerospace company COM DEV, which has since become part of Honeywell International.

The successful activation of the instruments was announced by the Canadian Space Agency, which is a partner in the joint North American-European project. It marks a major milestone for the agency as well as the Canadian scientists and engineers who first began working on the project more than two decades ago – and who now hope the momentum it generates will propel Canada to commit to a future space telescope of its own.

he contribution is also about as critical as it gets. NIRISS is seen as key to the telescope’s quest to characterize the atmospheres of planets in other solar systems, one of its most anticipated science goals. And if the Fine Guidance Sensor were to fail, the telescope would be unable to hold its gaze steadily enough to capture revealing images of the deep cosmos and a host of other celestial objects on astronomers’ wish lists.

“Everything had to work up to this point and it has, so mostly it’s been a great relief, but we’re not there yet,” said Dr. Hutchings, who is officially retired from the Herzberg Astronomy and Astrophysics Research Centre in Victoria, but remains active in the research community.

“For me, the big-ticket item is when we close the loop between the guidance system and the attitude control system,” said Erick Dupuis, director of Space Exploration Development at the Canadian Space Agency. “This is when we’re going to start pointing the spacecraft using the FGS – and this is what it was designed for.”

Once all the instruments are fully checked and operational – a process that is expected to take another four to five months – the FGS will use stars as guideposts to make sure the telescope stays precisely on target while it acquires its images. As long as at least three stars are in its field of view at any time, the Canadian sensor can keep the telescope from drifting off target.

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Re: James Webb Space Telescope Status Live Thread
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2022, 06:00:44 am »
@catfish1957

Frankly,I am amazed when ANYTHING goes right. There are literally thousands of little things that can go wrong and kill a mission. Some of them are things like tiny little transistors that only cost pennies.

These engineers and mechanics have my utmost respect.
MIne, too, @sneakypete. The GFF on this has to be astronomical...
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Re: James Webb Space Telescope Status Live Thread
« Reply #60 on: January 29, 2022, 06:36:54 am »
I can’t wait to start seeing photos from this.

I don’t think I’ll have the words to describe the beautiful and amazing things the Webb telescope will find
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« Reply #61 on: January 29, 2022, 07:21:09 am »
I can’t wait to start seeing photos from this.

I don’t think I’ll have the words to describe the beautiful and amazing things the Webb telescope will find
I agree!
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Re: James Webb Space Telescope Status Live Thread
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2022, 08:37:32 am »
MIne, too, @sneakypete. The GFF on this has to be astronomical...

I just read that this thing is out 1.5 million miles from earth in orbit of the sun. (5x distance of the moon) That's amazing.  I wonder how they are going to do any heavy lifting maintenance and repair.
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« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2022, 08:40:38 am »
I agree!

Can you imagine if they find that there are an infinity amount of universes like ours?   Corbe will have to pass the bong.
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« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2022, 09:18:02 am »
Can you imagine if they find that there are an infinity amount of universes like ours?   Corbe will have to pass the bong.

I actually do believe there are parallel universes. It’s an interesting idea.
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« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2022, 10:51:37 am »
Can you imagine if they find that there are an infinity amount of universes like ours?   

@catfish1957

Frankly,I lack the imagination to even guess at what they will find.

At this point in my life,nothing would surprise me,though. Please me,for sure. Maybe even scare me a little or put me in a permanent state of awe,but nothing would surprise me.
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« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2022, 10:54:46 am »
I actually do believe there are parallel universes. It’s an interesting idea.

@Gern

Frankly,I don't know what to believe,other than a LOT of the stuff they do discover may put me in a permanent state of awe.

I seriously doubt I am going to be surprised,though. After all,the universe is endless because how CAN there be an end to it? If there WERE to be an end,what is on the other side,and where does IT end?

And we ALL "know" that nothing is endless,right?
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« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2022, 11:13:00 am »
@Gern

Frankly,I don't know what to believe,other than a LOT of the stuff they do discover may put me in a permanent state of awe.

I seriously doubt I am going to be surprised,though. After all,the universe is endless because how CAN there be an end to it? If there WERE to be an end,what is on the other side,and where does IT end?

And we ALL "know" that nothing is endless,right?

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The universe boggles my mind. For example one day in several billion years, the Andromeda galaxy will collide with the Milky Way. I can’t help think one day the entire universe might collide into another Big Bang, and the whole process starts again.

The above statement might be incorrect but it did occur on “Futureama”
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« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2022, 11:18:38 am »
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The above statement might be incorrect but it did occur on “Futureama”

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« Reply #69 on: January 31, 2022, 12:42:06 pm »
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You are not trying to tell me you think your teabe would lie to you,are you?

Well, I know that Bender is great. Lol. @sneakypete
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« Reply #70 on: January 31, 2022, 07:53:25 pm »
Well, I know that Bender is great. Lol. @sneakypete

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Good choice of words. Bender is not know for playing well with others.

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« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2022, 08:42:43 pm »
NASA to Discuss Webb Telescope Progress, Mirror Alignment

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-discuss-webb-telescope-progress-mirror-alignment

NASA will hold a media teleconference at 11 a.m. EST on Friday, Feb. 11, to share progress made in the early stages of aligning the James Webb Space Telescope’s mirrors. The agency will livestream audio of the teleconference on its website.

Engineers and scientists will review the first weeks of the months-long alignment process and discuss early imagery that shows how the Webb team has identified starlight through each of telescope’s 18 hexagonal mirror segments. NASA will make this imagery available at 10:30 a.m. before the call on the Webb telescope blog.

Teleconference participants include:

•   Lee Feinberg, Webb optical telescope element manager, NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland

•   Marshall Perrin, Webb deputy telescope scientist, Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore

•   Marcia Rieke, principal investigator for the NIRCam instrument and regents professor of astronomy, University of Arizona in Tucson

To ask questions during the teleconference, media must RSVP no later than two hours prior to the event to Natasha Pinol at: natasha.r.pinol@nasa.gov. NASA’s media accreditation policy is available online.

The Webb team has begun to fine-tune the telescope using images captured by its Near-Infrared Camera (NIRCam). The early engineering imagery produced during this stage in the process, called “segment image identification,” stitches together more than 1,000 images to form 18 unfocused versions of a single star. This serves as the starting point for gradually aligning Webb’s mirror segments into one precise system.

Following the telescope’s alignment over the next several months, the Webb team will then move on to prepare the instruments for science observations and release the mission's first science images and data in the summer.

Webb, an international partnership with ESA (European Space Agency) and the Canadian Space Agency, launched Dec. 25 from Europe’s Spaceport in Kourou, French Guiana. After unfolding into its final form in space and successfully reaching its destination 1 million miles from Earth, the observatory is now in the months-long process of preparing for science operations.

Webb will explore every phase of cosmic history – from within the solar system to the most distant observable galaxies in the early universe, and everything in between. Webb will reveal new and unexpected discoveries and help humanity understand the origins of the universe and our place in it.

NASA has a digital media kit for web as well as image and video galleries online. The public also can follow Webb’s progress via a “Where is Webb?” interactive tracker.

For more information about the Webb mission, visit: https://webb.nasa.gov

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« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2022, 10:32:18 pm »
James Webb Space Telescope Successfully Sends Back First Images

Legal Insurrection by Leslie Eastman 2/13/2022

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We have been following the travels of the James Webb Space Telescope, and it has arrived at is destination one million miles from Earth.

The instrument has now sent back its first images as part of the complex process of aligning its array of mirror.

    The first images captured by the James Webb Space Telescope were unveiled Friday: a “selfie” showing the observatory’s 21.3-foot-wide primary mirror and a mosaic showing multiple images of a nondescript star being used to align the 18 segments making up the telescope’s main mirror.

    While the blurry, misaligned pictures might disappoint the uninitiated, they are almost exactly what engineers were expecting at this point in the observatory’s complex commissioning, 48 days after its Christmas Day launch.




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« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2022, 09:59:54 am »
Webb team brings 18 dots of starlight into hexagonal formation

Phys.org by Alise Fisher, NASA 2/19/2022

https://phys.org/news/2022-02-webb-team-dots-starlight-hexagonal.html


This early Webb alignment image, with dots of starlight arranged in a pattern similar to the honeyco...

The James Webb Space Telescope team continues to make progress in aligning the observatory's mirrors. Engineers have completed the first stage in this process, called "Segment Image Identification." The resulting image shows that the team has moved each of Webb's 18 primary mirror segments to bring 18 unfocused copies of a single star into a planned hexagonal formation.

With the image array complete, the team has now begun the second phase of alignment: "Segment Alignment." During this stage, the team will correct large positioning errors of the mirror segments and update the alignment of the secondary mirror, making each individual dot of starlight more focused. When this "global alignment" is complete, the team will begin the third phase, called "Image Stacking," which will bring the 18 spots of light on top of each other.

More: https://phys.org/news/2022-02-webb-team-dots-starlight-hexagonal.html

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« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2022, 03:36:23 pm »
Webb team brings 18 dots of starlight into hexagonal formation

Very cool to see those interim steps taking place.  Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2022, 08:16:49 am »
Behold! NASA releases stunning new Webb image of an unexpected star

INVERSE 3/16/2022

Happily homed in deep space, the James Webb Space Telescope has finally finished a critical stage: The telescope’s 21-foot-wide primary mirror is now fully aligned. And it has beamed down its first fully focused image to celebrate the milestone.

Although the subject of the image is a rather ordinary star called 2MASS J17554042+6551277, the image itself is anything but.

“Even though there are weeks and months ahead to really fully unleash the power of this new observatory, today we can announce that the optics will perform to specifications or even better,” gushes Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate. Zurbuchen’s remarks came during a press conference on Wednesday, March 15.

“This is one of the most magnificent days in my whole career at NASA,” he adds.

The Webb Telescope is engineered to detect light outside of the visible range — in infrared. Doing so allows it to produce images of the faintest and most distant objects in the universe. The $10 billion telescope is fitted with a 21-foot-wide, 4-inch-thick tiled mirror made up of 18 beryllium panels that are themselves coated in gold. Together, the 18 panels act as one large mirror.

NASA reveals that on March 11 those mirror segments aligned in space for the first time (almost), following a months-long process. The milestone gives hope to the mission team on the ground that Webb’s optical performance will meet their goals. This feat is only possible now because when you design a mirror this big, it has to fold up to fit in a rocket to get it into space.

After its mirror alignment was complete, Webb snapped a stunningly sharp image of a star — 2MASS J17554042+6551277. The star is a switch in target for the Webb: Previously, it used HD 84406, a star in the Ursa Major constellation, to focus its mirrors and align them as a unit.

A red filter amps up the visual contrast:



“It’s sort of just a generic average star in our in our galaxy,” Marshall Perrin, an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute, says at the press conference.

“This star is one of many stars we use throughout the commissioning process of Webb... they’re generally picked not because they’re special stars, but because they’re the right brightness in the right parts of the sky for our engineering tests.”

The Webb Telescope observes the cosmos in wavelengths beyond that which the human eye can see. The Webb’s infrared capabilities will help it stare right through opaque areas of space, capturing the universe in wavelengths that would not be possible to capture from Earth.

Webb’s optical sensitivity reveals not only the star in focus but also shows distant galaxies and other stars as faint objects in the background.

The image is also a major upgrade from Webb’s first go at photography.

More: https://www.inverse.com/science/nasa-webb-telescope-star-images




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« Reply #76 on: March 23, 2022, 01:22:42 am »
Behold! NASA releases stunning new Webb image of an unexpected star

INVERSE 3/16/2022

Happily homed in deep space, the James Webb Space Telescope has finally finished a critical stage: The telescope’s 21-foot-wide primary mirror is now fully aligned. And it has beamed down its first fully focused image to celebrate the milestone.

Although the subject of the image is a rather ordinary star called 2MASS J17554042+6551277, the image itself is anything but.

“Even though there are weeks and months ahead to really fully unleash the power of this new observatory, today we can announce that the optics will perform to specifications or even better,” gushes Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate. Zurbuchen’s remarks came during a press conference on Wednesday, March 15.

“This is one of the most magnificent days in my whole career at NASA,” he adds.

The Webb Telescope is engineered to detect light outside of the visible range — in infrared. Doing so allows it to produce images of the faintest and most distant objects in the universe. The $10 billion telescope is fitted with a 21-foot-wide, 4-inch-thick tiled mirror made up of 18 beryllium panels that are themselves coated in gold. Together, the 18 panels act as one large mirror.

NASA reveals that on March 11 those mirror segments aligned in space for the first time (almost), following a months-long process. The milestone gives hope to the mission team on the ground that Webb’s optical performance will meet their goals. This feat is only possible now because when you design a mirror this big, it has to fold up to fit in a rocket to get it into space.

After its mirror alignment was complete, Webb snapped a stunningly sharp image of a star — 2MASS J17554042+6551277. The star is a switch in target for the Webb: Previously, it used HD 84406, a star in the Ursa Major constellation, to focus its mirrors and align them as a unit.

A red filter amps up the visual contrast:



“It’s sort of just a generic average star in our in our galaxy,” Marshall Perrin, an astronomer at the Space Telescope Science Institute, says at the press conference.

“This star is one of many stars we use throughout the commissioning process of Webb... they’re generally picked not because they’re special stars, but because they’re the right brightness in the right parts of the sky for our engineering tests.”

The Webb Telescope observes the cosmos in wavelengths beyond that which the human eye can see. The Webb’s infrared capabilities will help it stare right through opaque areas of space, capturing the universe in wavelengths that would not be possible to capture from Earth.

Webb’s optical sensitivity reveals not only the star in focus but also shows distant galaxies and other stars as faint objects in the background.

The image is also a major upgrade from Webb’s first go at photography.

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What is really neat about that image is that a significant number of the objects in the background appear to be galaxies, not just stars. It's humbling when you consider the scale of our universe.
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« Reply #77 on: March 23, 2022, 08:57:45 am »
What is really neat about that image is that a significant number of the objects in the background appear to be galaxies, not just stars. It's humbling when you consider the scale of our universe.

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I'm waiting for someone to show me photos and explain to me what is on the OTHER side of our universe.

EVERYTHING has a beginning and an end,right? Which means there MUST be something on the other side,or it would all just fly apart.

I might be waiting a while.
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« Reply #78 on: March 23, 2022, 09:10:14 am »
@Smokin Joe

I'm waiting for someone to show me photos and explain to me what is on the OTHER side of our universe.

EVERYTHING has a beginning and an end,right? Which means there MUST be something on the other side,or it would all just fly apart.

I might be waiting a while.

Other side?

It might be an infinitie amount of other universes'

OTOH, we might get a view of Old man with a white beard shaking his fist at us, yelling "Repent".!!!!!!
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« Reply #79 on: March 23, 2022, 09:15:03 am »
@Smokin Joe

I'm waiting for someone to show me photos and explain to me what is on the OTHER side of our universe.

EVERYTHING has a beginning and an end,right? Which means there MUST be something on the other side,or it would all just fly apart.

I might be waiting a while.

It could curve around on itself, and so not really have a beginning or an end.

If one is a two dimensional creature on the surface of a three dimensional sphere, one's "universe" is the surface of that sphere, which has neither beginning nor end, but which is finite and can be traversed (even if it takes a really, really long time).

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« Reply #80 on: March 23, 2022, 10:46:21 am »
@Smokin Joe

I'm waiting for someone to show me photos and explain to me what is on the OTHER side of our universe.

EVERYTHING has a beginning and an end,right? Which means there MUST be something on the other side,or it would all just fly apart.

I might be waiting a while.
If space bends, we might be looking at our own backsides...just billions of years ago (transit time for the light).

One of the implications of FTL travel ignored by all the movies, is the time dilation/relativity effects of going hundreds or thousands of light years rapidly. While you were buzzing across the universe at faster than light speeds for a few days, eons would pass where you left. When you went back, all the people you'd known would be long gone, governments would have changed, planets might no longer exist.. You would truly be committed to your ship and ship's company.
Of course, if you were careless on liberty, the back child support (with interest) could be worth as much as your ship...
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« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2022, 01:30:04 pm »
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It could curve around on itself, and so not really have a beginning or an end.

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Nope! That might be the ILLUSION,but everything has  beginning and an end.

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If one is a two dimensional creature on the surface of a three dimensional sphere, one's "universe" is the surface of that sphere, which has neither beginning nor end, but which is finite and can be traversed (even if it takes a really, really long time).

I agree with the word "seems" and freely admit the only possible true answer not only makes my head hurt to think about,but scares the hell out of me. What else can the impossible do when it seems like it MIGHT be possible?

You or I can be wrong,but reality  cares nothing about what we think. It just is what it is.
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« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2022, 01:33:21 pm »
@Kamaji

Nope! That might be the ILLUSION,but everything has  beginning and an end.


I agree with the word "seems" and freely admit the only possible true answer not only makes my head hurt to think about,but scares the hell out of me. What else can the impossible do when it seems like it MIGHT be possible?

You or I can be wrong,but reality  cares nothing about what we think. It just is what it is.


So, where is the beginning of the surface of a sphere?  Not above it or below it, but within the surface itself?

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If space bends, we might be looking at our own backsides...just billions of years ago (transit time for the light).

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That may be,and I suspect possibly is,true,but it doesn't mean nothing exists beyond it. How COULD it?

One of the implications of FTL travel ignored by all the movies, is the time dilation/relativity effects of going hundreds or thousands of light years rapidly. While you were buzzing across the universe at faster than light speeds for a few days, eons would pass where you left. When you went back, all the people you'd known would be long gone, governments would have changed, planets might no longer exist.. You would truly be committed to your ship and ship's company.

Once again,I may be wrong,but IIRC,which is always open to question these days,Issac Asimov wrote a novel based on that concept years ago. Can't even guess at the title at this late date.

 
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« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2022, 01:54:30 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Once again,I may be wrong,but IIRC,which is always open to question these days,Issac Asimov wrote a novel based on that concept years ago. Can't even guess at the title at this late date.
He may have. I have read so much Science Fiction over the years and seen so many movies, there are few movies or books that even approach a fresh idea.
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« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2022, 01:57:06 pm »
Looking at that photo, I can remember similar Hubble shots with maybe the same field angle, and maybe a few dozen galaxies come into view.  Look at that shot.....   There's got to be 100's there.
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« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2022, 01:58:32 pm »
Looking at that photo, I can remember similar Hubble shots with maybe the same field angle, and maybe a few dozen galaxies come into view.  Look at that shot.....   There's got to be 100's there.
Yeah...

Neat. ..and like I said, humbling.
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« Reply #87 on: April 03, 2022, 09:56:54 pm »
Three of James Webb’s four instruments are now aligned

Digital Trends By Georgina Torbet 4/2/2022

https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/james-webb-multi-instrument-alignment/

The long process of getting the James Webb Space Telescope ready to begin collecting science data continues, and the Webb team has met another goal with the alignment of three out of its four instruments. The alignment process is a set of careful very small adjustments to each instrument to make sure they are in exactly the right location to receive light from the telescope’s large primary mirror. A few weeks ago the telescope’s mirrors were aligned with its main camera, called NIRCam, and now the telescope’s other instruments are being similarly adjusted.

Webb’s three near-infrared instruments (the Near-Infrared Slitless Spectrograph or NIRISS, the Near-Infrared Spectrometer or NIRSpec, and the Near-Infrared Camera or NIRCam) and its guidance sensor (the Fine Guidance Sensor or FGS) are now all aligned to its mirrors, leaving just the one mid-infrared instrument to go. The mid-infrared instrument (MIRI) takes longer to align because it uses a different type of sensor, which have to be cooled to an extremely low temperature of just 7 degrees kelvin. MIRI is still in the process of being cooled down to its operating temperature, and once it reaches this milestone then it too can be aligned.

The team had planned to make adjustments to the telescope’s secondary mirror — a smaller round mirror on the end of a boom arm — during the alignment process for the first three instruments, called phase six. However, it turned out that their alignments were so accurate that this wasn’t necessary, so they will wait until MIRI is fully cooled before making any final tweaks to the secondary mirror, in phase seven.

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« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2022, 08:01:17 am »
Webb Telescope’s Coldest Instrument Reaches Operating Temperature

NASA 4/13/2022

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/webb-telescope-s-coldest-instrument-reaches-operating-temperature

NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope will see the first galaxies to form after the big bang, but to do that its instruments first need to get cold – really cold. On April 7, Webb’s Mid-Infrared Instrument (MIRI) – a joint development by NASA and ESA (European Space Agency) – reached its final operating temperature below 7 kelvins (minus 447 degrees Fahrenheit, or minus 266 degrees Celsius).

Along with Webb’s three other instruments, MIRI initially cooled off in the shade of Webb’s tennis-court-size sunshield, dropping to about 90 kelvins (minus 298 F, or minus 183 C). But dropping to less than 7 kelvins required an electrically powered cryocooler. Last week, the team passed a particularly challenging milestone called the “pinch point,” when the instrument goes from 15 kelvins (minus 433 F, or minus 258 C) to 6.4 kelvins (minus 448 F, or minus 267 C).

“The MIRI cooler team has poured a lot of hard work into developing the procedure for the pinch point,” said Analyn Schneider, project manager for MIRI at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “The team was both excited and nervous going into the critical activity. In the end it was a textbook execution of the procedure, and the cooler performance is even better than expected.”

The low temperature is necessary because all four of Webb’s instruments detect infrared light – wavelengths slightly longer than those that human eyes can see. Distant galaxies, stars hidden in cocoons of dust, and planets outside our solar system all emit infrared light. But so do other warm objects, including Webb’s own electronics and optics hardware. Cooling down the four instruments’ detectors and the surrounding hardware suppresses those infrared emissions. MIRI detects longer infrared wavelengths than the other three instruments, which means it needs to be even colder.

Another reason Webb’s detectors need to be cold is to suppress something called dark current, or electric current created by the vibration of atoms in the detectors themselves. Dark current mimics a true signal in the detectors, giving the false impression that they have been hit by light from an external source. Those false signals can drown out the real signals astronomers want to find. Since temperature is a measurement of how fast the atoms in the detector are vibrating, reducing the temperature means less vibration, which in turn means less dark current.

MIRI’s ability to detect longer infrared wavelengths also makes it more sensitive to dark current, so it needs to be colder than the other instruments to fully remove that effect. For every degree the instrument temperature goes up, the dark current goes up by a factor of about 10.

Once MIRI reached a frigid 6.4 kelvins, scientists began a series of checks to make sure the detectors were operating as expected. Like a doctor searching for any sign of illness, the MIRI team looks at data describing the instrument’s health, then gives the instrument a series of commands to see if it can execute tasks correctly. This milestone is the culmination of work by scientists and engineers at multiple institutions in addition to JPL, including Northrop Grumman, which built the cryocooler, and NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, which oversaw the integration of MIRI and the cooler to the rest of the observatory.

“We spent years practicing for that moment, running through the commands and the checks that we did on MIRI,” said Mike Ressler, project scientist for MIRI at JPL. “It was kind of like a movie script: Everything we were supposed to do was written down and rehearsed. When the test data rolled in, I was ecstatic to see it looked exactly as expected and that we have a healthy instrument.”

There are still more challenges that the team will have to face before MIRI can start its scientific mission. Now that the instrument is at operating temperature, team members will take test images of stars and other known objects that can be used for calibration and to check the instrument’s operations and functionality. The team will conduct these preparations alongside calibration of the other three instruments, delivering Webb’s first science images this summer.

“I am immensely proud to be part of this group of highly motivated, enthusiastic scientists and engineers drawn from across Europe and the U.S.,” said Alistair Glasse, MIRI instrument scientist at the UK Astronomy Technology Centre (ATC) in Edinburgh, Scotland. “This period is our ‘trial by fire’ but it is already clear to me that the personal bonds and mutual respect that we have built up over the past years is what will get us through the next few months to deliver a fantastic instrument to the worldwide astronomy community.” 

More About the Mission

The James Webb Space Telescope is an international program led by NASA with its partners, ESA and the Canadian Space Agency.

MIRI was developed through a 50-50 partnership between NASA and ESA. JPL leads the U.S. efforts for MIRI, and a multinational consortium of European astronomical institutes contributes for ESA. George Rieke with the University of Arizona is the MIRI science team lead. Gillian Wright is the MIRI European principal investigator.

Laszlo Tamas with UK ATC manages the European Consortium. The MIRI cryocooler development was led and managed by JPL, in collaboration with Northrop Grumman in Redondo Beach, California, and NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

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« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2022, 08:07:54 am »
Can't wait for the first full pix!

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« Reply #90 on: April 14, 2022, 11:46:01 am »
I am in total awe of both this project,and the men and women who conceived of it and brought it to "life".

I feel better just knowing there are men and women out there smart enough to do this,and willing to spend years of their lives working hard at doing so with no recognition for their genius and dedication other than a paycheck.

Even now,when the plan and deed is virtually complete,the individuals are still anonymous citizens/government employees.
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« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2022, 09:32:36 am »
NASA's James Webb Space Telescope completely aligned and fully focused

New Atlas by Nick Lavars 5/1/2022

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The James Webb Space Telescope's onboard instruments are now aligned and capable of capturing in-focus images


Scientists working on NASA's James Webb Telescope have reached an important milestone, completely aligning the space observatory's massive mirrors. The achievement means the team can now move ahead with configuring the onboard instruments and prepare them to begin capturing sharp and in-focus images of the cosmos.

Back in January, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) finished deploying its set of 18 mirrors, which it will use to direct light from cosmic objects onto its instruments to capture images. But to do so, the mirrors had to be precisely aligned over a three-month period in order to focus that light correctly.

In March, the mirrors were brought into alignment with the telescope's primary imaging instrument, the Near-Infrared Camera, enabling it to focus and snap a crystal-clear image of a bright star. The team then continued aligning the mirrors with the JWST's remaining instruments, the Near-Infrared Spectrograph, Mid-Infrared Instrument, and Near Infrared Imager and Slitless Spectrograph – a task that is now complete.

The video below provides an overview of the achievement.


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« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2022, 11:03:04 am »
NASA's James Webb Space Telescope completely aligned and fully focused

New Atlas by Nick Lavars 5/1/2022

https://newatlas.com/space/nasas-james-webb-space-telescope-mirrors-aligned-fully-focused/



So, has the orchestra finished warming up now?  Sorry if I'm impatient, but with everything sh*tty that's going on in the world, I really want to get blown away by pics of stuff that is, literally, out of this world.

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« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2022, 11:08:33 am »

So, has the orchestra finished warming up now?  Sorry if I'm impatient, but with everything sh*tty that's going on in the world, I really want to get blown away by pics of stuff that is, literally, out of this world.


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« Reply #94 on: May 10, 2022, 06:21:10 pm »
Any more news on the telescope?

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« Reply #95 on: May 10, 2022, 06:58:40 pm »
James Webb telescope reaches 'perfect' alignment ahead of debut science images

Live Science  By Brandon Specktor 5/10/2022

The telescope's first science images drop in July.

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All four science instruments on NASA's James Webb Space Telescope have achieved "perfect alignment" in advance of the telescope's official debut this summer, project officials said in a news teleconference on Monday (May 9).

"I'm delighted to report that the telescope alignment has been completed with performance even better than we had anticipated," Michael McElwain, James Webb Space Telescope project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland said, according to CBS News. "We basically reached a perfect telescope alignment. There's no adjustment to the telescope optics that would make material improvements to our science performance."

To illustrate the telescope's readiness, NASA shared a teaser image taken by Webb's Mid-Infrared Instrument, or MIRI. The new image shows a side-by-side comparison of observations of a nearby galaxy taken by Webb, versus observations of the same galaxy taken previously by NASA's now-retired Spitzer Space Telescope.

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« Reply #96 on: May 10, 2022, 07:26:52 pm »
James Webb telescope reaches 'perfect' alignment ahead of debut science images

Live Science  By Brandon Specktor 5/10/2022

The telescope's first science images drop in July.

https://www.livescience.com/james-webb-telescope-perfectly-aligned




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« Reply #97 on: May 27, 2022, 09:02:46 am »
This Super-Earth is the first target of James Webb Telescope. Here a year is just 18-hrs-long

India Today by Sibu Kumar Tripathi 5/27/2022

https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/this-super-earth-is-the-first-target-of-james-webb-telescope-here-a-year-is-just-18-hrs-long-1954807-2022-05-27

What would happen if Earth was much closer to the Sun, so close that a year on the planet would just be 18 hours long? The humanity that we know would not exist, but what will be the conditions on such a planet as it evolves. The James Webb Telescope will soon find out.

Cooled, calibrated, and waiting to open eyes nearly 1,50,000 kilometers away from Earth, the James Webb Telescope has its first assignment. Observe 55 Cancri e, a super-hot, super-Earth that goes around its Sun in just 18 hours, and the airless planet LHS 3844 b.

The Webb team will soon train its high-precision spectrographs on these planets with a view to understanding the geologic diversity of planets across the galaxy, and the evolution of rocky planets like Earth. While planets like these do not exist in our own solar system, these rocky, roughly Earth-sized, extremely hot, and close to their stars—are not uncommon in the Milky Way galaxy.

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« Reply #98 on: June 09, 2022, 09:45:16 pm »
A Micrometeoroid Was No Match For the Resilient James Webb Space Telescope

Popular Mechanics  By Tim Newcomb Jun 9, 2022

One segment of the 21-foot-wide mirror suffered damage, but the mission goes on.

•   A micrometeoroid strike on the James Webb Space Telescope in May skewed alignment of a gold-plated mirror segment, but won’t jeopardize its mission.

•   The Webb telescope is about one million miles from Earth, and is expected to share its first full-color images in July.

•   The $10 billion telescope launched in 2021, and is expected to last 20 years.

NASA planned for dust particles striking the $10 billion James Webb Space Telescope, running computer simulations and live testing on sample mirror pieces before launching it in December 2021. But the agency couldn’t test for what happened in late May, when a “micrometeoroid” struck the outer ring of the telescope’s 21-foot-wide mirror, knocking one of the 18 segments out of alignment and causing a distortion of its data.

The mission will go on as planned, though, with engineers hoping to continue adjusting the mirror position for a “partial correction” of the impact. NASA warns the data will be affected, and it can’t just correct it all away, even if the agency doesn’t plan a change to the space telescope’s operational schedule.

Expect the first images from Webb in July, as the telescope then turns toward the atmospheres of distant planets and stars.

“We always knew that Webb would have to weather the space environment, which includes harsh ultraviolet light and charged particles from the Sun, cosmic rays from exotic sources in the galaxy, and occasional strikes by micrometeoroids within our solar system,” Paul Geithner, technical deputy project manager at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, says in a June 8 news release. “We designed and built Webb with performance margin—optical, thermal, electrical, mechanical—to ensure it can perform its ambitious science mission even after many years in space.”

More: https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/telescopes/a40241809/micrometeoroid-strikes-james-webb-space-telescope-mirror/

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« Reply #99 on: June 09, 2022, 10:27:52 pm »
I’m so looking forward to seeing photos from this thing……
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