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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #425 on: December 17, 2021, 05:15:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 17, 2021, 03:33:21 pm
Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.

Assumed?  Too bad he didn't test it first on his own head.  I bet he would have CHECKED it...first.  What a clown.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #426 on: December 17, 2021, 06:01:37 pm »
Quote from: 240B on December 17, 2021, 05:06:31 pm
I understand what you mean, but this case is so serious I don't see that happening. All the people involved want somebody to pay. That young girl can't even pay her rent. I doubt the plaintiffs will allow her to be substituted for deep-pockets Baldwin. They will simply not accept it. And even if Baldwin pawns off some of the criminal charges, as the perp and the producer and the owner of the production company, he will still get crucified in civil court.

I'm partial. Hannah Reed can't pay her rent for a hovel in my little town.....
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #427 on: December 17, 2021, 06:23:14 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 17, 2021, 03:33:21 pm
Hanna Reed is the designated scapegoat. She's young and poor.
I believe it. It may be that no one ends of paying for this crime. Will the victim's family be paid off enough (by Baldwin, of course, not Miss Reed) not to agitate for criminal charges?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #428 on: December 20, 2021, 10:58:24 am »
Hamptons cops pull over Alec Baldwin, Hilaria after warrant issued for his phone

By Yaron Steinbuch
December 20, 2021 8:08am  Updated

Alec Baldwin and his wife, Hilaria, were pulled over by police in the Hamptons Saturday — two days after investigators issued a search warrant for the embattled actor’s cellphone, photos show.

Baldwin, 63, was photographed sitting inside the car while Hilaria, 37, spoke with a cop on the side of the road before pulling out her phone and showing the screen.

The yoga instructor, who was wearing a long green coat and a white baseball cap, spoke calmly with the officer before returning to the vehicle, according to the US Sun.

It is not immediately clear why the couple was pulled over.

Baldwin also was photographed later as he stopped to pick up coffee and snacks while his wife remained in their car.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #429 on: January 09, 2022, 08:20:02 pm »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #430 on: January 10, 2022, 02:00:10 pm »
Why experts say Alec Baldwin hasn’t handed over his phone
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January 7, 2022 7:10pm
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Alec Baldwin, who has yet to turn over his cellphone to law enforcement in connection with the law enforcement investigation into the fatal shooting on the set of the movie “Rust, may be holding onto the device for a number of reasons, legal experts told The Post on Friday.

The lawyers theorized that the 63-year old actor may be concerned about the possibility of “incriminating” evidence on the phone— including deleted texts or photos that could hold him in criminal contempt–or may simply want to keep his private conversations out of the public eye.

“There could be incriminating evidence on the phone, or it might be for privacy reasons,” said Kevin Kearon, a former Nassau District Attorney’s Office who’s now a  criminal defense lawyer.

“If he deleted text messages or call records then he would face the possibility of criminal contempt,” said Kearon, who works at the Long Island firm Barket Epstein Kearon. “Or if there are personal messages, for example, between he and his wife, it’s not shocking that he wouldn’t want them in the public domain.”  ...
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #431 on: January 10, 2022, 02:03:31 pm »
Maybe there's incriminating evidence of other activities that, to-date, nobody else is aware of?  Perhaps that's what Baldwin is trying to protect?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #432 on: January 10, 2022, 04:09:13 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on January 10, 2022, 02:03:31 pm
Maybe there's incriminating evidence of other activities that, to-date, nobody else is aware of?  Perhaps that's what Baldwin is trying to protect?

Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #433 on: January 10, 2022, 04:11:33 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 10, 2022, 04:09:13 pm
Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.

And there is a warrant for the trigger-happy Baldwin.  I guess he's allowed to take his sweet time turning his over, because left wingnut.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #434 on: January 10, 2022, 04:30:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 10, 2022, 04:11:33 pm
And there is a warrant for the trigger-happy Baldwin.  I guess he's allowed to take his sweet time turning his over, because left wingnut.

They got a warrant?  Well why didn't you say so!

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #435 on: January 10, 2022, 05:03:29 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 10, 2022, 04:09:13 pm
Short of a warrant, I wouldn't turn my phone over either, unless they were offering immunity.

I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #436 on: January 10, 2022, 05:57:55 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on January 10, 2022, 05:03:29 pm
I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.

The warrant was issued on Dec 16.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #437 on: January 10, 2022, 07:54:30 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on January 10, 2022, 05:03:29 pm
I believe they have a warrant; he just doesn't want to cooperate with the warrant.
You mean he lied in that Twitter/Tik Tok post when he said he wanted to find the truth and that he was fully cooperating. I'm shocked, Shocked I tell you.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #438 on: January 10, 2022, 08:38:11 pm »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #439 on: January 10, 2022, 08:44:12 pm »
TIME defense is the issue. The longer the media and people in power can drag this out, the sooner it will be forgotten and quietly dropped.
They are just playing for time, and so far they are winning. Anyone else (not rich, famous, or connected) would be charged by now. From what I see at this point, he is going to get away with it except for all the civil suits which are definitely on the way.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #440 on: January 10, 2022, 10:01:10 pm »
Just saw Baldwin on FOX, doing some kind of bragging about how he is getting away free.
Maybe so. But looking at him he looks like he has aged ten years overnight. Not free.
He may get away with killing that woman but there are repercussions he is paying.
You can see it written on his face.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #441 on: January 11, 2022, 03:36:29 am »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #442 on: January 11, 2022, 09:49:44 am »
Quote from: 240B on January 10, 2022, 10:01:10 pm
Just saw Baldwin on FOX, doing some kind of bragging about how he is getting away free.
Maybe so. But looking at him he looks like he has aged ten years overnight. Not free.
He may get away with killing that woman but there are repercussions he is paying.
You can see it written on his face.
Absolutely agree.  He'll get away with it, but will pay for it the rest of his life.  Similar to O.J. .....
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #443 on: January 11, 2022, 03:48:48 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on January 11, 2022, 09:49:44 am

Absolutely agree.  He'll get away with it, but will pay for it the rest of his life.  Similar to O.J. .....
Yep. My light study of Judaism left me with two things I took to heart.
To 'curse' someone is a very delicate thing. It can be done, but it is very tricky.
The price for a curse is can be a boomerang effect. You may destroy someone else, but the curse will take you with it. This is how hate works. It will wind up on your own head. Revenge rarely is practical.

Also, what you do and who you are as a soul is on your person, and is written on your face.
Including things you do in a dark room with no witnesses and no consequences. What you do becomes a part of you that people can see and read. As you said so insightfully, what Baldwin did, accident or not, will be with him the rest of his life and historically after his life. And will be on the heads of his family and children.
That is truth.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #444 on: January 13, 2022, 09:02:09 pm »
Film armorer blames ammo supplier in deadly 'Rust' shooting

ABC News by MORGAN LEE 1/12/2022

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/film-armorer-blames-ammo-supplier-deadly-rust-shooting-82236741

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A new lawsuit accuses an ammunition supplier of creating dangerous conditions on a movie set where a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin killed a cinematographer, by including live ammunition in a box that was supposed to include only dummy rounds

A new lawsuit accused an ammunition supplier Wednesday of creating dangerous conditions on a movie set where a gun held by actor Alec Baldwin killed a cinematographer, by including live ammunition in a box that was supposed to include only dummy rounds.

The lawsuit was filed in New Mexico state district court by Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the armorer who oversaw firearms, ammunition and related training on the set of “Rust" along with two colleagues. Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died on Oct. 21 from a gunshot wound during a “Rust” rehearsal at a ranch on the outskirts of Santa Fe in northern New Mexico.

The Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office that is leading an investigation into the cause of the death has said it is too soon to determine whether charges will be filed. Investigators have described “some complacency” in how weapons were handled on set.

The lawsuit from Gutierrez Reed places blame on ammunition supplier Seth Kenney and his company PDQ Arm & Prop for introducing live rounds to the set where only blanks and dummies were supposed to be present.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #445 on: January 13, 2022, 09:22:47 pm »
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The lawsuit was filed in New Mexico state district court by Hannah Gutierrez Reed, the armorer who oversaw firearms, ammunition and related training on the set of “Rust" along with two colleagues. Cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died on Oct. 21 from a gunshot wound during a “Rust” rehearsal at a ranch on the outskirts of Santa Fe in northern New Mexico.  .  .  .  The lawsuit from Gutierrez Reed places blame on ammunition supplier Seth Kenney and his company PDQ Arm & Prop for introducing live rounds to the set where only blanks and dummies were supposed to be present.

How soon they forget.

Gun that killed Halyna Hutchins used by crew off-set for fun: report
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #446 on: January 13, 2022, 09:48:00 pm »
Alec Baldwin to turn in cell phone amid 'Rust' probe 'this week,' attorney says
https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/589688-alec-baldwin-to-turn-in-cell-phone-amid-rust-probe-this-week
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #447 on: January 14, 2022, 06:51:00 am »
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #448 on: January 14, 2022, 08:58:25 am »
Alec Baldwin ignored 'Rust' armorer's request to attend 'cross draw training' just days before the shooting, lawsuit says

Insider by  Michelle Mark and Natalie Musumeci 1/13/2022

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•   The armorer for "Rust" is suing an ammo supplier, alleging live ammo was mixed with dummy rounds.

•   She said in her suit that Alec Baldwin did not respond when she tried to schedule firearms training.

•   New Mexico police are investigating the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on set.

The actor Alec Baldwin ignored a request to attend "cross draw training" just days before he fatally shot a cinematographer on the set of "Rust," a new lawsuit filed by the film's armorer alleges.

The armorer, the 24-year-old Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, filed a lawsuit Wednesday against the film's ammo supplier, alleging the company's owner had mixed live and dummy rounds before providing ammunition to the film crew. The October 21 shooting remains under investigation by New Mexico authorities.

Gutierrez-Reed's lawsuit did not name Baldwin as a defendant or allege that he violated any laws. But her lawsuit appeared to cast some blame on the actor, saying he failed to attend training and pointing to his handling of the weapon. The lawsuit says Gutierrez-Reed asked Baldwin to schedule the training on October 15, less than a week before the fatal shooting but she never heard back from the actor.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #449 on: January 14, 2022, 09:04:18 am »
‘Rust’ Armorer Puts Blame on Alec Baldwin for Fatal Shooting: Report

American Entertainment by Suzanne Halliburton January 13, 2022

https://outsider.com/american-entertainment/rust-armorer-puts-blame-alec-baldwin-for-fatal-shooting-report/

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The armorer who worked on the movie Rust is saying that star Alec Baldwin is partly responsible for a death on set because he failed to show up for a training session.

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer for Rust, filed a civil lawsuit in a New Mexico court on Wednesday. The suit alleges that Baldwin did not respond to a request for training. The session was a week before bullets fired from Baldwin’s prop gun killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

Attorneys for Gutierrez-Reed filed the lawsuit against the man who furnished guns and ammo for Rust. The details about Baldwin were in the court filings. He is not listed as a defendant.

However, the filing states that Baldwin did not answer Gutierrez-Reed’s request to schedule a cross-draw training session. She asked him to participate in the training, Oct. 15. Hutchins died Oct. 21 during Rust rehearsals at the Bonanza Creek Ranch outside Santa Fe, New Mexico.

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