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California law bans small off-road gas engines, including lawnmowers and chainsaws

by Asher Notheis, Breaking News Reporter
October 10, 2021 01:46 PM


California took another step toward its goal of ridding the state of all gas-powered engines thanks to a new bill signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts. Under the new law , these machines must be zero-emissions, meaning they will have to be either battery-powered or plug-in, according to the Los Angeles Times .

"This is a pretty modest approach to trying to limit the massive amounts of pollution that this equipment emits, not to mention the health impact on the workers who are using it constantly," Marc Berman, the bill's author, told the outlet. "It’s amazing how people react when they learn how much this equipment pollutes, and how much smog forming and climate changing emissions that small off-road engine equipment creates."

The new law is expected to affect nearly 50,000 small businesses . California's budget includes $30 million to help professional landscapers and gardeners quit using gas-powered equipment, but even then, the budget is still not capable of bearing the full financial burden.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-law-to-ban-small-off-road-engines
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So let me get this straight.

You have to have a battery powered backup generator?

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So let me get this straight.

You have to have a battery powered backup generator?

No, not at all.  You can have one as long as you purchase it anywhere outside of California.  Same goes for lawn mowers, chain saws, trimmers, and off-road vehicles.
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California is becoming a lunatic asylum.
It is a form of self-deprecating suicide. Death by a thousand cuts.
All these little things, as California calls them, in combination with insane COVID requirements, add up to an overwhelming tsunami of regulation which 'will' eventually cause All small businesses in California to close.

Whether they realize it or not, the California Communist are essentially shutting down the State from conducting any kind of commercial business. It will not be long before California's economy is idle.
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It is a form of self-deprecating suicide. Death by a thousand cuts.
All these little things, as California calls them, in combination with insane COVID requirements, add up to an overwhelming tsunami of regulation which 'will' eventually cause All small businesses in California to close.

Whether they realize it or not, the California Communist are essentially shutting down the State from conducting any kind of commercial business. It will not be long before California's economy is idle.

Your are right, Newsom is destroying CA's economy.  Their economy is (or at least was) the largest in the U.S.

It's really time for RED states to ban together. FL and TX have the next largest economies.  NY does as well, but since it shutdown so much for so long, it's hard to tell what their economy is like.

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California is becoming a lunatic asylum.

Well, in honesty, most of Congress, has become a lunatic asylum led by someone who's in la la land most of the time. I absolutely have compassion for those with cognitive decline, but Joe shouldn't be running the country.

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Your are right, Newsom is destroying CA's economy.  Their economy is (or at least was) the largest in the U.S.

It's really time for RED states to ban together. FL and TX have the next largest economies.  NY does as well, but since it shutdown so much for so long, it's hard to tell what their economy is like.
California is at war with small businesses. (they call them racist) But that is not all. California is driving mega-corporations out as well. There is no question that California has become a militantly anti-business State.

Over the next few years, we will all see California devolve into the third world (which is where they 'want' to be) even more than it is now.
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California is at war with small businesses. (they call them racist) But that is not all. California is driving mega-corporations out as well. There is no question that California has become a militantly anti-business State.

Over the next few years, we will all see California devolve into the third world (which is where they 'want' to be) even more than it is now.
I’ll vouch for that. There is real animosity towards small businesses and I’m not exactly sure why. Seems self destructive.
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California had their chance a few weeks ago...they chose the lunatic asylum.

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California had their chance a few weeks ago...they chose the lunatic asylum.
Californians ‘chose’ Newsom like America ‘chose’ Lunchbox Joe.

In my humble opinion of course.
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Okay, the acceptance of the military settlement of the War Between the States into the American Constitutional order makes secession a non-starter, but is there any way we can contrive to expel California from the Union?  It's not just the small engine ban, there's their not knowing how to manage forest lans, their introducing a CRT graduation requirement into their high school curricula, the fact that Hollywood, and Berkeley and San Francisco are there,...
And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was all about.

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I’ll vouch for that. There is real animosity towards small businesses and I’m not exactly sure why. Seems self destructive.
Because big businesses can buy what's left over for pennies on the dollar and diversify.
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California had their chance a few weeks ago...they chose the lunatic asylum.
Many, many of us chose wisely but being a socialist controlled state who knows what the true vote was? If the democrats could steal a presidency would be any effort for them to steal a state?

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California's budget includes $30 million to help professional landscapers and gardeners quit using gas-powered equipment, but even then, the budget is still not capable of bearing the full financial burden.
Are they going to buy them livestock?  ****sheep****
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Californians ‘chose’ Newsom like America ‘chose’ Lunchbox Joe.

In my humble opinion of course.
Dittos! Humble opinion or not as a fellow prisoner of the democrat/socialist jailers I heartily agree.

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Mexican lawncare workers dying from the dreaded leaf lung disease will surely drop to prewetback levels
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mystery observed:
"California had their chance a few weeks ago...they chose the lunatic asylum."

As they will in all elections to come, for evermore.

The only way California will be brought back to reality is (literally) "by conquest".
That means an Army (nothing less) will have to go in there, defeat whatever resistance is found, and then put the state under a government of "military reconstruction" until the population can be re-educated enough for responsible self-government again.

Please show me where I'm wrong.

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Mexican lawncare workers dying from the dreaded leaf lung disease will surely drop to prewetback levels
Shirley there must be an exemption for the Hispanic landscapers who will be disproportionately affected because they can't afford to replace their worn out tools of the trade that spew oil and gas fumes, not to mention the irritating noise. No doubt Noisome and his fellow minions who supposedly represent legal Californians will take even more of the taxpayers cash and gift to these poor Hispanic landscapers so that they can buy shiny new battery operated equipment ecological powered by fossil fuels.

I so wish I was being sarcastic rather than prophetic.

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Shirley there must be an exemption for the Hispanic landscapers who will be disproportionately affected because they can't afford to replace their worn out tools of the trade that spew oil and gas fumes, not to mention the irritating noise. No doubt Noisome and his fellow minions who supposedly represent legal Californians will take even more of the taxpayers cash and gift to these poor Hispanic landscapers so that they can buy shiny new battery operated equipment ecological powered by fossil fuels.

I so wish I was being sarcastic rather than prophetic.
They're doing that for cosmetologists - the State Board, who governs sanitary and other industry standards, is seeking the discretion to allow waivers for those who cut hair on overturned buckets in the barrio, ghetto etc. while those who try to abide by the rules will continue to have their nuts in the Board's vice. In a manner of speaking.


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Even generators?

But, I can still smuggle that stuff from Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, and Mexico? 

Could be a very lucrative organized crime opportunity.




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Are they going to buy them livestock?  ****sheep****
Sheep and goats: self-replicating lawnmowers.

I'd include cows, but apparently they fart, and that would be counterproductive...
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The good news for the rest of us is there is going to be a glut of both new and used riding mowers on the market,at rock bottom prices.

Not to mention ATV's that were going to be used by hunters and campers. It would take a REALLY long cord to be able to plug them in each night for recharging when you consider how far off the beaten path these people go.
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California had their chance a few weeks ago...they chose the lunatic asylum.

 *****rollingeyes*****  11513 No, I did not. I and many hundreds of thousands of Californians got out-voted. Can people who should know better please stop broad-brushing Californians as if we were lockstep homogeneous Prog-automatons?! 11513  *****rollingeyes*****

Remember how unpersuasive denigration of unvaccinated people is? Think about it!
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*****rollingeyes*****  11513 No, I did not. I and many hundreds of thousands of Californians got out-voted. Can people who should know better please stop broad-brushing Californians as if we were lockstep homogeneous Prog-automatons?! 11513  *****rollingeyes*****

Remember how unpersuasive denigration of unvaccinated people is? Think about it!

I lived there for about 39 years and still own property there which I want to get sold. I have every right to speak out about California and how it has destroyed itself.

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California is becoming a lunatic asylum.

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I lived there for about 39 years and still own property there which I want to get sold. I have every right to speak out about California and how it has destroyed itself.
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Sheep and goats: self-replicating lawnmowers.

I'd include cows, but apparently they fart, and that would be counterproductive...
If people ate as much lamb and goat in America as beef then the Gaia worshippers would be screaming about sheep and goat farts too!

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*****rollingeyes***** 11513 No, I did not. I and many hundreds of thousands of Californians got out-voted. Can people who should know better please stop broad-brushing Californians as if we were lockstep homogeneous Prog-automatons?! 11513 *****rollingeyes*****

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California is entitled to run their state anyway they want.The problem is California is negatively impacting the entire country by bleeding socialist rules and laws and forcing corporations to cater the the large market.  When California decided to do away with incandescent light bulbs, then executive rules banning them went into effect then the companies stopped making them.  The same with this lunacy with the small engines, biden is going to grab this and force the rest of the country to comply...
Hence the animosity..
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The good news for the rest of us is there is going to be a glut of both new and used riding mowers on the market,at rock bottom prices.

Not to mention ATV's that were going to be used by hunters and campers. It would take a REALLY long cord to be able to plug them in each night for recharging when you consider how far off the beaten path these people go.
I wonder how this is going to affect motorcycles...Who's next?

(Oh yeah, tell the Hell's Angels they can't have Harleys. I'd pay to see that one.)
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I wonder how this is going to affect motorcycles...Who's next?

(Oh yeah, tell the Hell's Angels they can't have Harleys. I'd pay to see that one.)

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I'm no outlaw biker,but come around and try to take my Harley and very bad things wil happen to you,and I don't give a squat who you are or how many badges you carry.

Yeah, I know exactly that feeling...  and there's a lot of prairie out there. Coyotes gotta eat, too.
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