Red states are having big success with this one COVID treatment and now the Biden administration is

[Hoodat]

Red states are having big success with this one COVID treatment and now the Biden administration is going to start rationing it

Daniel Payne   |   Sep 16th, 2021 12:39 pm

You've probably heard about monoclonal antibodies—a therapeutic treatment that has been highly successful at treating COVID-19. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, for instance, aggressively championed the procedure in his state, which saw such promising results that even Dr. Anthony Fauci came out strongly in support of it.

Now, however, the Biden administration is announcing that it will begin rationing the treatment throughout the U.S., citing an alleged fear of shortages:

An HHS spokesperson said seven states have accounted for 70% of orders for the therapy. Those seven states are Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

"Given this reality, we must work to ensure our supply of these life-saving therapies remains available for all states and territories, not just some," the HHS spokesperson said.

The distribution, which is similar to a system employed earlier this year, will fall to HHS, which will allocate product to states and territories each week, rather administration sites ordering them directly.

But is the threat of shortages real? Texas Montgomery County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook this week that there was, in fact, no looming shortfall of the drug  .  .  .

https://notthebee.com/article/red-states-have-been-having-big-success-with-this-one-covid-treatment-and-now-the-biden-administration-is-going-to-start-rationing-it/


Pure evil.  The White House alone gets to decide which states get what.  By law, an individual State cannot order directly from the supplier.  And now that these Red States have found a more effective FDA-approved treatment against Covid than the mRNA jabs, the Biden coup wants to cut them off.

[Ghost Bear]

If there is a highly effective and easily available treatment for the dreaded Covid available, people won't want to take the inconvenient and potentially dangerous "vaccine". For some reason the government and the leftists really want everyone to take that "vaccine". I wonder what that reason might be?

[Bigun]

If there is a highly effective and easily available treatment for the dreaded Covid available, people won't want to take the inconvenient and potentially dangerous "vaccine". For some reason the government and the leftists really want everyone to take that "vaccine". I wonder what that reason might be?

I'll take "It's not really a vaccine" for $1000 Alex!

[cato potatoe]

Welcome to socialized medicine.

[PeteS in CA]

That Regeneron's REGEN-COV mab treatment is effective was news almost a year ago, when Trump received it. Further, it has been available under Emergency Use Authorization since November 2020.

There may be a "shortage", in the sense that LIEden & Krew made what appears to be their FIRST purchase of REGEN-COV on September 14, 2021. The most recent purchase before that was January 12th, by the Trump Administration. IOW, if there's a shortage, it's due to LIEden & Krew failing to do in a timely way what was obviously necessary. LIEden's Kovid Krew Kidz are a bunch of regulocrats, and F-ups like this show it.

[Smokin Joe]

That Regeneron's REGEN-COV mab treatment is effective was news almost a year ago, when Trump received it. Further, it has been available under Emergency Use Authorization since November 2020.

There may be a "shortage", in the sense that LIEden & Krew made what appears to be their FIRST purchase of REGEN-COV on September 14, 2021. The most recent purchase before that was January 12th, by the Trump Administration. IOW, if there's a shortage, it's due to LIEden & Krew failing to do in a timely way what was obviously necessary. LIEden's Kovid Krew Kidz are a bunch of regulocrats, and F-ups like this show it.

I am even more concerned that that bunch might commandeer all the supply, in the name of "fairness", and dole it out to a select few, while the rest rots on the shelf.

[mountaineer]

Brian Lenzkes, MD
@BrianLenzkes
NIH now recommends Vitamin C, D3 and Zinc for prevention and treatment of Covid-19.  The rest of us who have recommended it for the past 18 months don't even want an apology.
7:07 PM · Sep 16, 2021

[Free Vulcan]

This is the medical version of Stalin and the Ukraine.

[PeteS in CA]

I am even more concerned that that bunch might commandeer all the supply, in the name of "fairness", and dole it out to a select few, while the rest rots on the shelf.

The Feds buying and distributing REGEN-COV (and bamlanivimab) was set up by Trump. He probably had distribution done as he did with ventilators (when Cuomo was making insane demands), based on where it was needed. Biden is fulfilling your concern, distributing based on "equity" (probably on the basis of states' populations). Because Covid isn't hitting all states equally, this shifts supplies of REGEN-COV away from states with greater need to states with lesser need, creating shortages where needed and surpluses where not needed. Among the states with greater need, currently, are Progs' bogey-states Florida and Texas. LIEden's distribution scheme is a political shell game, with "equity" being the shell.

So LIEden & Krew created the shortage, if there is one, by failing to buy before demand peaked (US daily new cases peaked on August 27th, but Biden's first REGEN-COV purchase was made September 14th), and now distributes on a thinly disguised political basis.

[Wingnut]

Desantis has made a deal to buy directly from two company's and side step the Dept of health "rationing".  Biden isn't playing Corn Pop or with children's hair down here.

[Bigun]

Desantis has made a deal to buy directly from two company's and side step the Dept of health "rationing".  Biden isn't playing Corn Pop or with children's hair down here.

 

[DefiantMassRINO]

Mono-clonal anti-bodies are a competitive choice to the vaccines.  Rationing mono-clonal anti-bodies eliminates a competitor to the vaccine.

Big Government is about removing choices and the ability to choose.

[240B]

If there is a highly effective and easily available treatment for the dreaded Covid available, people won't want to take the inconvenient and potentially dangerous "vaccine". For some reason the government and the leftists really want everyone to take that "vaccine". I wonder what that reason might be?

The government's evangelic zealous passion about 'forcing' everyone (except illegals, postal workers, and congressional staff) to take a vaccine which they themselves preach "DOES NOT WORK!" is really beyond bizarre. Why? If the vaccine does not prevent or cure COVID, then what does it really do? And why is the government so militant about handcuffing people and forcibly injecting them? It make no rational sense at all.

If the government believes their own propaganda, then they must believe that most unvaccinated are White Trump supports (which is not true, btw). Why would the current gang of woke communists in government care so much about "saving" Trump supporters? Why not just let them kill themselves?

There is something else in play. There is more to this so called 'vaccine' than just COVID. It is not natural for the Federal Government to be so insanely concerned with some people catching a flu.

[Hoodat]

Mono-clonal anti-bodies are a competitive choice to the vaccines.  Rationing mono-clonal anti-bodies eliminates a competitor to the vaccine.

Drawing a parallel between monoclonal antibodies and 'vaccines' [sic] puts the jabs in the category of a treatment instead of a preventative.  It is amazing how much the narrative has changed regarding the mRNA immune-system-destroying jabs.

[Hoodat]

Desantis has made a deal to buy directly from two company's and side step the Dept of health "rationing".  Biden isn't playing Corn Pop or with children's hair down here.

I don't think that's currently 'legal', but it should be.  Glad to see Desantis thumbing his nose at the tyranny of the Democrats.

[Hoodat]

From the article:

As of yesterday the Biden Administration is metering how many doses of Regeneron are sent to Texas and thus limiting how many are sent to the Montgomery County location. Telling Texas to reduce its use of the therapeutic treatment that has literally been saving lives and reducing hospitalizations.

Now I'd like to think this is because of a supply issue and it will be temporary at best. But it's not. The manufacturer has confirmed supplies are ample but due to the Defense Production Act, the White House and it's agencies are the only entities who can purchase and distribute this treatment.

So less than a week after the president tells us his patience is wearing thin and he is mandating vaccines to millions of Americans his administration limits and all but removes a non-controversial and highly successful treatment from our war chest of combating this virus.

[Polly Ticks]

This is an excellent example of why the government does not belong in the middle of medical care and decisions.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Already having a covid treatment (mono clonal antibodies) that prevents death reduces the incentive of urgency to get the vaccine.

If there was not such a treatment, there would be increased incentive of urgency to get the vaccine.

Yes, that makes no sense, but sense, reason, and logic went out the window long ago.

People are getting their medical information from a Niki Minaj tweet about her cousin's friend alleged vaccine side-effects of impotence and swollen testicles.  If people WANT to be stupid, there's not much we can do about it.

[Hoodat]

This is an excellent example of why the government does not belong in the middle of medical care and decisions anything.

[mountaineer]

People are getting their medical information from a Niki Minaj tweet about her cousin's friend alleged vaccine side-effects of impotence and swollen testicles.  If people WANT to be stupid, there's not much we can do about it.

Most of the reaction I've seen is amusement at the scenario - and admiration for Nicki for standing up to the media. I haven't noticed anyone actually seeking her out for medical guidance, however.

[240B]

Most of the reaction I've seen is amusement at the scenario - and admiration for Nicki for standing up to the media. I haven't noticed anyone actually seeking her out for medical guidance, however.

Even if they took her seriously, so what? All she said was, "Do your own research, do what makes you comfortable, and Do Not be Bullied!
This was enough to cause the American Leftists' heads explode. How dare you say 'research'! How dare you say not to be bullied!
She didn't say anything wrong. In summary, all she said was to be careful.

[PeteS in CA]

Desantis has made a deal to buy directly from two company's and side step the Dept of health "rationing".  Biden isn't playing Corn Pop or with children's hair down here.

Glad to hear that. It's pathetic that it's necessary, but LIEden needs to be taught that his attempts at tyranny can be fought and bypassed.

[PeteS in CA]

Mono-clonal anti-bodies are a competitive choice to the vaccines.  Rationing mono-clonal anti-bodies eliminates a competitor to the vaccine.

Big Government is about removing choices and the ability to choose.

While mab treatments could, hypothetically, be used as a temporary (lasting for several months and not producing a T- or B-cell response, unlike the current Covid vaccines) quasi-vaccine (I think there is an ongoing study of this idea) by receiving a mab treatment without exposure, I don't think Regeneron or Eli Lilly have the production capacity online that could support widespread quasi-vaccine use.

That hypothetical aside, mabs are treatments, not vaccines. Vaccine producers also produce treatments for the diseases their vaccines target, because they don't buy into Magic Silver Bullet  "thinking".

[mountaineer]

She didn't say anything wrong. In summary, all she said was to be careful.

True.

[PeteS in CA]

Even if they took her seriously, so what? All she said was, "Do your own research, do what makes you comfortable, and Do Not be Bullied!
This was enough to cause the American Leftists' heads explode. How dare you say 'research'! How dare you say not to be bullied!
She didn't say anything wrong. In summary, all she said was to be careful.

Minaj said more than that: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/americas/nicki-minaj-vaccine-story-false-scli-intl/index.html .

[PeteS in CA]

Regeneron's is not the only monoclonal antibody (mab) treatment "out there". Eli Lilly also has a mab treatment that the FDA has authorized. Its story is a bit more involved, so I'll go through some chronological milestones:

October 28, 2020 - Agreement announced for Feds' purchase of 300,000 vials of bamlanivimab.

November 9, 2020 - Eli Lilly's and AbCellera's bamlanivimab received Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. Bamlanivimab was the first product from a DARPA project to develop platforms for quick early responses to emerging epidemics. The project was announced in very early 2017, and launched in very early 2018.

December 2, 2020 - Agreement announced for Feds' purchase of another 650,000 doses of bamlanivimab. This was done during a multi-month surge that peaked around January 8, 2021.

January 26, 2021 - Data announced from a combination trial of bamlanivimab and etesevimab. Etesevimab is licensed by Eli Lilly from Junshi Biosciences of Shanghai, China.

February 9, 2021 - The bamlanivimab-etesevimab combination received Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. BTW, Regeneron's REGEN-COV is also a combination of two mabs.

February 26, 2021 - Agreement announced for Feds' purchase of 100,000 doses of the bamlanivimab-etesevimab combination.

April 12, 2021 - Existing purchase agreements with the Feds modified to add etesevimab to bamlanivimab-only agreements.

April 16, 2021 - Eli Lilly requested the withdrawal of the bamlanivimab-only Emergency Use Authorization.

September 15, 2021 - Agreement announced for Feds' purchase of 388,000 doses of the etesevimab for use with doses of bamlanivimab purchased under bamlanivimab-only contracts.

Like I said, the history is a bit more involved. And if one roots through Eli Lilly press releases, http://lilly.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=9042&l=100 , it can be seen that another mab combination with bamlanivimab is being tested.

Two things kind of stood out to me:

1. The 5 month gap between the April 12 contract modification and the purchase of the 388,000 doses of the etesevimab. 5 months of no action, even though the spring mini-surge had consumed some stocks of mab treatments and the summer surge was recognizable before mid June. Five. Idle. Months!

2. Part of the 5 idle months was not purchasing the etesevimab to pair with the solo doses of bamlanivimab. Hello! The Feds knew the solo doses of bamlanivimab could not be used as is, but let them sit for 5 months before finally purchasing the etesevimab that would make those solo doses usable.

Context matters, and the past few days' purchases of etesevimab and REGEN-COV were in the context of the summer 2021 Covid surge having peaked around August 27th, about 3 weeks ago. LIEden's spokeshypers make scary-urgent noises, but LIEden's bureaucrats don't purchase with anything resembling urgency!

LIEden's MalAdministration mixes its messaging with an industrial blender set to warp speed!

[PeteS in CA]

Exciting news! I found the machine drug companies use to create names for their products:

[Hoodat]

Regeneron's is not the only monoclonal antibody (mab) treatment "out there". Eli Lilly also has a mab treatment that the FDA has authorized. Its story is a bit more involved, so I'll go through some chronological milestones:

October 28, 2020 - Agreement announced for Feds' purchase of 300,000 vials of bamlanivimab.

November 9, 2020 - Eli Lilly's and AbCellera's bamlanivimab received Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. Bamlanivimab was the first product from a DARPA project to develop platforms for quick early responses to emerging epidemics. The project was announced in very early 2017, and launched in very early 2018.  .  .

Nice work, @PeteS in CA

[Bigun]

[Wingnut]

The gatekeepers of information AKA fact checkers, are twisting in the wind to claim this is false. 

[Bigun]

The gatekeepers of information AKA fact checkers, are twisting in the wind to claim this is false.

Of course, they are!  Par for the course.

[DB]

And more:

https://basedunderground.com/2021/09/18/you-are-more-likely-to-get-infected-today-than-months-ago-because-of-the-vaccine/

[Smokin Joe]

The gatekeepers of information AKA fact checkers, are twisting in the wind to claim this is false.

The so-called "factcheckers" have been biased from the beginning, and not just on facebook.

Believe their stuff at your peril.

A lot of their opinions are based on weasel wording, semantic elimination of other critical factors, etc.
That crap started when just having practicing doctors say "..." was not enough, there had to be double blind studies done, too.  Nothing like getting memes or obvious jokes on fecebook "factchecked", and while they may be "independent" (which means what, exactly?) the Leftist bias is ever evident.

On fecebook, I just use their flags to indicate what needs to be further investigated. Zuckerberg is allergic to the truth, I think.

[Bigun]

The so-called "factcheckers" have been biased from the beginning, and not just on facebook.

Believe their stuff at your peril.

A lot of their opinions are based on weasel wording, semantic elimination of other critical factors, etc.
That crap started when just having practicing doctors say "..." was not enough, there had to be double blind studies done, too.  Nothing like getting memes or obvious jokes on fecebook "factchecked", and while they may be "independent" (which means what, exactly?) the Leftist bias is ever evident.

On fecebook, I just use their flags to indicate what needs to be further investigated. Zuckerberg is allergic to the truth, I think.

  The "fact checkers" got tired of me and got my account deleted.  To their credit, they did bother to send me an e-mail informing me of the fact.

[Smokin Joe]

The "fact checkers" got tired of me and got my account deleted.  To their credit, they did bother to send me an e-mail informing me of the fact.

I'm treading lightly, and have my second strike...(or so they informed me). When I do post, I post a lot of links, and my friends know enough to just check them out. Seems the memes really upset them, though.

[Victoria33]

This is an excellent example of why the government does not belong in the middle of medical care and decisions.

@Polly Ticks

This was written above:  "As of yesterday the Biden Administration is metering how many doses of Regeneron are sent to Texas and thus limiting how many are sent to the Montgomery County location. Telling Texas to reduce its use of the therapeutic treatment that has literally been saving lives and reducing hospitalizations."

Polly, I have now moved to Montgomery County, Texas. Lived here before for 16 years.  Montgomery County is 99.99% Republican - no Democrat in any office.  I did not know masses of those meds were sent here.  Does anyone know why to this county?  I have been and am very weak from major surgery and have not kept up with this.  Montgomery County's southern border is Harris County, Houston.  I can't take the vaccine so am still captive in my house.

Get this:  I have to have a medical person with me from 9 in the morning until I go to bed.  So far, I have found no company that sends medical people to homes and checks whether they are vaccinated or not.  I must have a vaccinated person to limit my exposure to the virus.  Companies say it is the employee's personal choice to get the vaccine so they do not know if an employee has had the vaccine.  I will be having a doctor try to find a vaccinated person to be at my house.

I should say this: the hospital and the care place they sent me to later, kept me in a room by myself.  Workers/staff had a mask on every time.  Both places took swabs in my nose every three days. 

[Smokin Joe]

@Polly Ticks

This was written above:  "As of yesterday the Biden Administration is metering how many doses of Regeneron are sent to Texas and thus limiting how many are sent to the Montgomery County location. Telling Texas to reduce its use of the therapeutic treatment that has literally been saving lives and reducing hospitalizations."

Polly, I have now moved to Montgomery County, Texas. Lived here before for 16 years.  Montgomery County is 99.99% Republican - no Democrat in any office.  I did not know masses of those meds were sent here.  Does anyone know why to this county?  I have been and am very weak from major surgery and have not kept up with this.  Montgomery County's southern border is Harris County, Houston.  I can't take the vaccine so am still captive in my house.

Get this:  I have to have a medical person with me from 9 in the morning until I go to bed.  So far, I have found no company that sends medical people to homes and checks whether they are vaccinated or not.  I must have a vaccinated person to limit my exposure to the virus.  Companies say it is the employee's personal choice to get the vaccine so they do not know if an employee has had the vaccine.  I will be having a doctor try to find a vaccinated person to be at my house.

For starters, I am glad to see you posting. I hope you are recovering well. You have (both) been in my prayers.

If you want to be protected from the variants, you might consider getting someone who has had COVID and recovered. There are indications their immunity is broader based, and the chances of them unwittingly coming in with ah high viral  load of a variant are less. For your perusal, Discrete Immune Response Signature to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination Versus Infection available at https://ssrn.com/abstract=3838993 or http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.3838993
and Differential effects of the second SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine dose on T cell immunity in naïve and COVID-19 recovered individuals https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.22.436441v1

As ever, your choices are your own, and I pray you get well soon.

[Hoodat]

I must have a vaccinated person to limit my exposure to the virus.

@Victoria33

Having a vaccinated person does not limit your exposure to the virus.  If anything, it increases it.  An unvaccinated person with the virus will begin to show symptoms within a day or two.  A vaccinated person with the virus may go months before they begin to show symptoms.

[Victoria33]

@Hoodat
@Smokin Joe

"For starters, I am glad to see you posting. I hope you are recovering well. You have (both) been in my prayers."

Thank you for that. I was moving back to Montgomery County on Aug. 19.  On Aug. 17, I woke up in the hospital without my right hip - they took it out and stuck a new "knob" into my femur bone; the original knob was broken off.  Then, I almost bled out from damage to my head; had a blood transfusion.  Will be 88 Oct. 6; I am lucky to be alive.

Both of you are correct about who is less likely to expose another person.  I would be fine with someone who already had the virus.  In my opinion, a vaccinated person is better than someone who has had nothing.

But, it does not matter what you think or I think.  The at home care companies will not ask their home care workers about their vaccine status or if they have had the virus, etc.  That is why I am going to a family care doctor here, he does not know he is going to be my doctor, who has experience in being the doctor for several nursing homes.  He knows the ins and outs of companies who send out medical care people and maybe can find me a person who has had it or is vaccinated.

[Victoria33]

@Hoodat
@Smokin Joe

Thank both of you for responding to me.

"But is the threat of shortages real? Texas Montgomery County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook this week that there was, in fact, no looming shortfall of the drug  .  .  ."

I made a mistake.  I asked why Montgomery County was in this problem, but I had not read what County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook.  Now, I know why Montgomery County is involved.

I actually got to my house here this past Tuesday.  There is a newspaper here and I will use that to help bring me up to date about county news.  The paper is not run by Dems here or it would not sell.

Montgomery County, Texas, has the most Republicans per capita than any other Texas county.

[Bigun]

@Hoodat
@Smokin Joe

Thank both of you for responding to me.

"But is the threat of shortages real? Texas Montgomery County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook this week that there was, in fact, no looming shortfall of the drug  .  .  ."

I made a mistake.  I asked why Montgomery County was in this problem, but I had not read what County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook.  Now, I know why Montgomery County is involved.

I actually got to my house here this past Tuesday.  There is a newspaper here and I will use that to help bring me up to date about county news.  The paper is not run by Dems here or it would not sell.

Montgomery County, Texas, has the most Republicans per capita than any other Texas county.

Glad to see you up, about, and posting again Marcella!

Walker County may just run Montgomery County a race if done on a per capita basis.

[Victoria33]

Glad to see you up, about, and posting again Marcella!

Walker County may just run Montgomery County a race if done on a per capita basis.

@Bigun

Naturally, to get to Montgomery County from the north, one goes through Walker County.  I think about you every time I go through there and did this time when coming home.  When I lived in Coldspring, I made the trip to Walker County every week for groceries and beauty shop.  I also worked with your Republican Party in Walker County.

[Bigun]

@Bigun

Naturally, to get to Montgomery County from the north, one goes through Walker County.  I think about you every time I go through there and did this time when coming home.  When I lived in Coldspring, I made the trip to Walker County every week for groceries and beauty shop.  I also worked with your Republican Party in Walker County.

  I well remember those days. @Victoria33

[Idiot]

@Hoodat
@Smokin Joe

Thank both of you for responding to me.

"But is the threat of shortages real? Texas Montgomery County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook this week that there was, in fact, no looming shortfall of the drug  .  .  ."

I made a mistake.  I asked why Montgomery County was in this problem, but I had not read what County Judge Mark Keough wrote on Facebook.  Now, I know why Montgomery County is involved.

I actually got to my house here this past Tuesday.  There is a newspaper here and I will use that to help bring me up to date about county news.  The paper is not run by Dems here or it would not sell.

Montgomery County, Texas, has the most Republicans per capita than any other Texas county.

I find that hard to believe.  Look up Shackelford county or Taylor county.

I was exposed to Covid yesterday dang it....  I took some ivermectin yesterday with no side affects so far other than this craving for carrots and hay.

[skeeter]

Glad to see you up, about, and posting again Marcella!

Same here @Victoria33. Please take good care of yourself.

[Victoria33]

 

I find that hard to believe.  Look up Shackelford county or Taylor county.

@mrpotatohead

There is one stop every Republican State Officer Holder or candidate always makes - it is to Montgomery County for cash money and major votes.  Their gatherings happen by buying tickets to be there.  Some were so expensive, I did not go.  I am a "worker bee", not a "cash cow" of the county.

[Victoria33]

@mrpotatohead
You said: "I find that hard to believe.  Look up Shackelford county or Taylor county."

Politics from Wikipedia about Montgomery County:
 
"Montgomery County is one of the most heavily Republican counties in Texas, giving 78.1 percent of its vote to George W. Bush in 2004[11] and 75.8% of its vote to John McCain in 2008.[12] The county has not been won by a Democratic presidential candidate since native Texan Lyndon Johnson won 60.9% of the county's vote in 1964.[13] In 1968, George Wallace, running as a third-party candidate, won the county, whilst in 1948, “States’ Rights” candidate Strom Thurmond had previously won over 29 percent of the vote to make Montgomery his fourth-strongest county in Texas, and in 1992, Ross Perot, another third-party candidate received more votes than Democratic candidate Bill Clinton. In 2016, it was the only county in the United States which Republican nominee Donald Trump won against Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by a margin of greater than 100,000 votes.[14]

Even with the dramatic leftward turn of Texas' suburbs, especially in Houston, Dallas and Austin, Montgomery County has trended leftwards at a much smaller pace, with Trump remaining above 70% in both of his runs for president, and even expanding the raw vote margin to the largest in the county’s history."

[Polly Ticks]

@Victoria33
So glad to see you back online and to hear that you are on the mend!