Woodward book: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weap

[mystery-ak]

"the former president was implementing an insurrection."

yeah that's why Milley called China and who knows where else....

[mystery-ak]

Raheem J. Kassam
@RaheemKassam
·
39m
Of course Biden has full confidence in Milley.

They both work for the same country.

That country is not America, FYI.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988

[mystery-ak]

John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/

[Kamaji]

John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/

Uh, actually, it's very questionable.

[catfish1957]

John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/

Looks like the insurrectionist are sticking together.  This thing is going to be a larger war crimes tribunal than Nurmberg before it is over.

[catfish1957]

Uh, actually, it's very questionable.

Time for some serious Watergate Payback.....

Line them all up, and ask what you knew about Chicom military collusion, and when did you know it.

[mystery-ak]

David Frum
@davidfrum
·
46s
The new Woodward book doesn't release until September 21, so it's six full days of defamation of General Milley before the story falls apart

[catfish1957]

David Frum
@davidfrum
·
46s
The new Woodward book doesn't release until September 21, so it's six full days of defamation of General Milley before the story falls apart

Somebody's got to get thrown under the bus......   

[240B]

https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988

Hillary Clinton committed numerous very public felonies while in office concerning her "secret server" she was using to communicate internationally without going through United States Procedures. Lois Lerner used her position at the IRS to openly and flagrantly target anyone she considered to be "too patriotic" or "too Christian" or "pro-Republican". Debbie Wasserman Schultz hired known Middle East spies to care for the entire Congressional Information System.

None of these Democrats got so much as a parking ticket.

I predict that spying for the Chinese as Joint Chiefs of Staff will turn out the same way as all the other Democrat traitors.

In the Democrat Party, being a traitor to America is a rite of passage, to be praised not punished.

[mountaineer]

Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDT

Claims in an upcoming book that a frantic Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley made secret calls to his Chinese counterpart are greatly exaggerated, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

A forthcoming book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa claims that Milley grew concerned about then-President Donald Trump’s instability and the possibility that he might spark a war with China, prompting him to arrange a pair of secret phone calls with Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army. The first was on Oct. 30, just four days before the presidential election, and the second on Jan. 8, two days after a mob of pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol.  ...

The people also said that Milley did not go rogue in placing the call, as the book suggests. In fact, Milley asked permission from acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller before making the call, said one former senior defense official, who was in the room for the meeting. Milley also briefed the secretary’s office after the call, the former official said.

“We discussed beforehand and after his call with his Chinese counterpart,” the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic.  ...

Politico

[skeeter]

https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988

"I didn't like him and I really, like, think he was unfit."

"The Chairman of the joint chiefs had to collude with the Chicoms to undermine Trumps authority. Cause I thought Trump was icky"

[Bigun]

Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico

That does not square with this:

https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1438206602092457993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438206602092457993%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gopbriefingroom.com%2Findex.php%2Ftopic448373.325.html

[catfish1957]

Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico

???

Total subterfuge. Totally disregarded the October 30th event.  Chris Miller didn't become acting SOD until November 9, 2020. As usual, tell a half truth, and you might pull off a dupe.

[skeeter]

Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico

Yes, and the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a smashing success.

[Kamaji]

Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico

And Chris Miller has already denied giving permission for any such calls.

[catfish1957]

And Chris Miller has already denied giving permission for any such calls.

It's like setting a bug bomb, and watching the roaches scatter

[dfwgator]

Bottom line is, nobody is going to be punished for all this.  They are "Made Men" in the Deep State Mafia.

[Bigun]

Milley asked permission from acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller before making the call, said one former senior defense official, who was in the room for the meeting. Milley also briefed the secretary’s office after the call, the former official said.

Somebody is lying!

[Bigun]

Bottom line is, nobody is going to be punished for all this.  They are "Made Men" in the Deep State Mafia.

Bottom line is that this country is now just one more banana republic on the face of the earth.

[240B]

The worst part of all of this, is that Biden, Pelosi, Milley, Obama, AOC, and all the rest, do not have a single clue on Earth what they are playing with. The real Communists are not your friends, as you think they are. They would kill all of you, and your family, without a blink.

You guys think you have found something 'better' than America. So go there. Be with your compatriots! But of course that is not the goal. The goal of the Democrats is not to embolden or support Communists. The goal is to Destroy. Destruction is what they crave. If Communist governments can help them in that goal, then hail Communism. They do not care. The only goal they have is to bring down America. If Communists and Islamic supremacist happen to benefit from that, they don't care. That is not their concern.

[Fishrrman]

I didn't read the entire thread.

But it seems like it might be a good time to dig up a copy of the old film "Seven Days in May" and watch it again.

I did some diggin' for ya -- some possible sources here:
magnetdl.proxyninja.org/s/seven-days-in/
(you will have to add "https://" in front of the line above -- c'mon, you know what to do...)

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1438271445902270466

[240B]

https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1438271445902270466

That picture is the picture when he had a 'moment of clarity'. He set in the magnitude of his own doing, here in America, and globally.

[Bigun]

I'm putting a link to the UCMJ below should anyone here wish to look at it.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part2/chapter47&edition=prelim

[Smokin Joe]

I'm putting a link to the UCMJ below should anyone here wish to look at it.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part2/chapter47&edition=prelim

Like:

§894. Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—

(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;

(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;

(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.

(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.

(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 68.)
Historical and Revision Notes Revised section   Source (U.S. Code)   Source (Statutes at Large)
894(a)

894(b)
   50:688(a).

50:688(b).
   May 5, 1950, ch. 169, §1 (Art. 94), 64 Stat. 136.

In subsection (a)(1) and (2), the words "or persons" are omitted, since, under section 1 of title 1, words importing the singular may apply to several persons.

In subsection (a)(3), the word "a" is substituted for the words "an offense of". The words "commissioned officer" are inserted after the word "superior", for clarity.

?

[Kamaji]

Like: ?

Mutiny seems to fit quite nicely here.

[txradioguy]

John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’

Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/

TDS has completely broken John Bolton.

[txradioguy]

Bottom line is that this country is now just one more banana republic on the face of the earth.

And that's just how the Dems want it

[Bigun]

Like: ?

There are so many things in there that he could potentially be charged with it's hard to keep track of them all.

He's already admitted to making the call so the only question now is who's lying about his getting permission.

[txradioguy]

There are so many things in there that he could potentially be charged with it's hard to keep track of them all.

He's already admitted to making the call so the only question now is who's lying about his getting permission.

First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges.  IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.

[Cyber Liberty]

First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges.  IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.

He's the CJCS.  It would be like expecting a rogue Attorney General to prosecute himself for perjuring himself before Congress.

[Bigun]

First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges.  IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.

Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.

[240B]

Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.

Milley has always declared loudly and at every opportunity, "China is not our enemy!!" He could have been working for Chinese Intelligence for decades. Who knows?

[Bigun]

Milley has always declared loudly and at every opportunity, "China is not our enemy!!" He could have been working for Chinese Intelligence for decades. Who knows?

  I couldn't agree more. Seems to me that half of official Washington is on the CHICOM payroll.

[txradioguy]

He's the CJCS.  It would be like expecting a rogue Attorney General to prosecute himself for perjuring himself before Congress.

Well by tricky..and I'm doing this from memory so I may not have this exactly correct...I mean the investigating officer for the 15-6 Investigation would have to be of equal rank and position...that means a 4 Star that's been the CJCS...you'd have to dip into the retired ranks and call them back to active duty for this special mission.

And that's where the SecDef has the advantage.

[txradioguy]

Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.

Those orders would have to come from the SecDef...Lloyd Austin.

I wouldn't hold your breath.

[mystery-ak]

Not sure about this..haven't seen this anyplace else

BREAKING: Trump Defense Secretary Esper Arranged the Chinese Back-Channels! Trump’s Traitorous Cabinet Members Have Soiled Their Own Legacies
By
Brooke McGowan
15 September 2021

So many times we were left shaking our heads during the Trump Administration, wondering who in his Cabinet could be trusted. We saw many of their deeds as unpatriotic or deeply questionable.

We were shocked to learn earlier this week that Gen Mark Milley, JCOS chairman, has admitted in an upcoming book titled “Peril,” that he had back channels with his Chinese counterpart in case President Trump pulled some rogue maneuver following the stolen 2020 election.

Today, Trump’s former Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, rode to Milley’s defense, tweeting that the “White Rage Woke” Milley is a “person of impeccable integrity and professionalism.”

We just learned from General Paul Vallely that it was in fact Defense Secretary Mark Esper who arranged the back-channels for the Chinese talks. Both Milley and Esper were concerned that President Trump would go off half-cocked and launch nuclear missiles to defend his position, an unwarranted and ridiculous assumption, given the pro-military and anti-war agenda of President Trump.

No wonder President Trump had so much trouble accomplishing his goals! His cabinet was filled with yellow-bellied traitors!

Attorney General Bill Barr was equally disappointing, as it was he who proclaimed the steal of 2020 to be legitimate, urging President Trump to officially drop the issue.

Surrounded by traitors, our President was hamstrung at every turn.

God help us.

http://magainstitute.com/breaking-trump-defense-secretary-esper-arranged-the-chinese-back-channels-trumps-traitorous-cabinet-members-have-soiled-their-own-legacies/

[mystery-ak]

https://rumble.com/embed/vjyuk3/?pub=4

[Smokin Joe]

Not sure about this..haven't seen this anyplace else

BREAKING: Trump Defense Secretary Esper Arranged the Chinese Back-Channels! Trump’s Traitorous Cabinet Members Have Soiled Their Own Legacies
By
Brooke McGowan
15 September 2021

So many times we were left shaking our heads during the Trump Administration, wondering who in his Cabinet could be trusted. We saw many of their deeds as unpatriotic or deeply questionable.

We were shocked to learn earlier this week that Gen Mark Milley, JCOS chairman, has admitted in an upcoming book titled “Peril,” that he had back channels with his Chinese counterpart in case President Trump pulled some rogue maneuver following the stolen 2020 election.

Today, Trump’s former Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, rode to Milley’s defense, tweeting that the “White Rage Woke” Milley is a “person of impeccable integrity and professionalism.”

We just learned from General Paul Vallely that it was in fact Defense Secretary Mark Esper who arranged the back-channels for the Chinese talks. Both Milley and Esper were concerned that President Trump would go off half-cocked and launch nuclear missiles to defend his position, an unwarranted and ridiculous assumption, given the pro-military and anti-war agenda of President Trump.

No wonder President Trump had so much trouble accomplishing his goals! His cabinet was filled with yellow-bellied traitors!

Attorney General Bill Barr was equally disappointing, as it was he who proclaimed the steal of 2020 to be legitimate, urging President Trump to officially drop the issue.

Surrounded by traitors, our President was hamstrung at every turn.

God help us.

http://magainstitute.com/breaking-trump-defense-secretary-esper-arranged-the-chinese-back-channels-trumps-traitorous-cabinet-members-have-soiled-their-own-legacies/

I would not call them "Yellow-bellied traitors", necessarily, but raving, partisan paranoiacs seems to fit. I am sure this is also a projection of their own capacity for abuse of power onto a political opponent. This is what happens when you start believing your own hyperbolic propaganda. Just look at Pelosi, who apparently was also a party to this group madness.

I cannot see how any of these people are psychologically fit for public office or command.

[Bigun]

I would not call them "Yellow-bellied traitors", necessarily, but raving, partisan paranoiacs seems to fit. I am sure this is also a projection of their own capacity for abuse of power onto a political opponent. This is what happens when you start believing your own hyperbolic propaganda. Just look at Pelosi, who apparently was also a party to this group madness.

I cannot see how any of these people are psychologically fit for public office or command.

They aren't! Yet there they are and there they will remain!

[Smokin Joe]

They aren't! Yet there they are and there they will remain!

Effectively leaving control of WMDs in the hands of paranoid psychopaths.

What could possibly go wrong?

I'd bet none of these MFers would pass the psych eval for a boomer crew.

[Bigun]

Effectively leaving control of WMDs in the hands of paranoid psychopaths.

What could possibly go wrong?

I'd bet none of these MFers would pass the psych eval for a boomer crew.

I wouldn't touch that bet with someone else's ten-foot pole!

[corbe]

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nataliegwinters/status/1438573466781831202

[Smokin Joe]

https://mobile.twitter.com/nataliegwinters/status/1438573466781831202

SO....not just a paranoid psychopath, but an idiot as well.

[mountaineer]

Joe Gabriel Simonson
@SaysSimonson

I think it's weird that the two Washington Post journalists who wrote that book have been basically silent since giving their book to CNN and their employer to promote.

I also think it's weird that you have multiple outlets attacking central claims in the book and if those claims prove to be fabrications, the people who made those claims will still have jobs.
10:46 AM · Sep 17, 2021

[txradioguy]

So there's a story out this morning that Milley's power grabs and disregarding the chain of command go back to his time as the Army Chief of Staff...and current CSA James McConville is also complicit going back to when he was Milley's Vice Chief.

[Smokin Joe]

So there's a story out this morning that Milley's power grabs and disregarding the chain of command go back to his time as the Army Chief of Staff...and current CSA James McConville is also complicit going back to when he was Milley's Vice Chief.

Well, there goes the whole 'spur of the moment to save the world' fiction. Considering Pelosi and IIRC, Schumer wee implicated (Why not the Veep or Senate Majority leader if the concern was that POTUS would unilaterally bypass all safeguards and start slinging nukes?) their attempt to portray Milley's usurpation of power is likely serious CYA on their part as well.

[txradioguy]

Well, there goes the whole 'spur of the moment to save the world' fiction. Considering Pelosi and IIRC, Schumer wee implicated (Why not the Veep or Senate Majority leader if the concern was that POTUS would unilaterally bypass all safeguards and start slinging nukes?) their attempt to portray Milley's usurpation of power is likely serious CYA on their part as well.

They are bringing out the big guns now. I see that former Supreme Allied Commander Europe Admiral (ret) James Stavridis has a puff piece our saying that Milley was just being a good soldier doing the right thing.

Only problem is that on the credibility standpoint Stavridis isn't the best person to be vouching for Milley.  Seems the good Admiral had some issues with money...specifically in the realm of official and unofficial travel and "other matters".

Officially he was cleared...but I worked in the unit that helped create the paper trail to get him off the hook.