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Biden won't do anything because Milley is exactly the type of Flag Officer the Marxist Liberals want.

That and the fact that his CHICOM masters won't allow it.  Both are on their payroll.
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Gregg Jarrett: Gen. Milley's alleged treachery and betrayal merit a court-martial

If accurate, allegations in the Woodward and Costa book constitute court-martial offenses

Revelations about the conduct of Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, contained in a new book are beyond alarming. If accurate, they constitute court-martial offenses. If proven at trial, they merit conviction and imprisonment. 

In a new book titled "Peril," Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward and national political reporter Robert Costa describe in intimate detail conversations that Milley had with senior Pentagon officials, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and a top general in the Chinese military toward the end of Trump’s presidency.   

According to the book, Milley usurped the authority of the president as the elected civilian leader of the United States, sought to defy any order with which he disagreed, and inserted himself into a chain of command where he did not belong in order to arrogate power over the nation’s military operations and nuclear codes.  But that’s not all...

More at headline link.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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We need to be careful not to rewrite history.

Everyone, including the DOJ, pushed back against using the Insurrection Act in the summer ol 2019.  There is wide precedent that sending in the Army is triggered by a governor's request --- and, of course, there was none.  Trump was limited to using this to protect federal land and buildings, which he did.

Had Trump fired Milley and/or Esper (and AG), each would have been subpoenaed as a witness for the prosecution in Impeachment I.

Trump was always boxing with one hand tied behind his back ---- which makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.


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I think Miley didn't think this thing though in its entirety.  In his convoluted mind he thought he was a patriot, when in essence by the book he was committing treason.  When the chips start falling, it is going to be interesting how this thing plays out between him and Woodward.

Fact is, one of them is going to lose....  Whether it is Miley's freedom, or Woodwards credibility (permanently).  Couldn't happen to a better pair of turds.
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Rand Paul Urges Milley to Take Polygraph — ‘Immediately Needs to Be Removed’ if China Talks Confirmed

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Wednesday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) reacted to a report that General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called his Chinese counterpart General Li Zuocheng multiple times and told him that he would warn him ahead of any military action.

Paul told FNC’s “Fox & Friends” that Milley should be investigated “immediately” and called on him to take a polygraph test. Paul added that if the report is true, Milley needed “to be immediately removed of his command.” He added that if true, Milley’s actions were “treasonous.”

“It should be investigated immediately, today,” Paul declared. “He should be questioned under oath, if not with a polygraph test whether it happened. If it happened, he should be immediately relieved of his duties and court-martialed. You have to find out if it’s true. This is innuendo and rumor, propaganda perhaps, but if it is true, [he] absolutely immediately needs to be removed. We have elections. We can’t have generals overturning elections. That’s what we have always criticized in authoritarian regimes where the military takes over. This is very, very dangerous, and if this happened, Milley needs to be immediately removed of his command.”

“[He] should be immediately ordered into a room for an interview, not just a press interview, for an interview, with polygraph, which we do often for our intelligence officials, and he needs to be asked, did you call the Chinese government in defiance to your command? Did you warn them or insinuate to them that the president might attack them? That’s incredibly dangerous to the country, to the world, and if true, treasonous,” the senator concluded.

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General Milley needs to answer questions immediately—under oath—about whether he subverted a sitting President of the United States and colluded with an adversary. Not tomorrow. Not eventually. Immediately.

If it’s true, firings and resignations should be just the start.
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More than courts martial or polygraph,
he should be interrogated by military intelligence to find out exactly what he told the Chinese about U.S. military readiness and capabilities especially concerning nuclear weapons.
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More than courts martial or polygraph,
he should be interrogated by military intelligence to find out exactly what he told the Chinese about U.S. military readiness and capabilities especially concerning nuclear weapons.

 :yowsa: That should be the first order of business!
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1438163098662277123

I am still inclined to think that Mr. Trump (as he is now) should not run again in 2024; on the other hand, a ticket of Trump and Gen. Flynn might be what is needed now.

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I am still inclined to think that Mr. Trump (as he is now) should not run again in 2024; on the other hand, a ticket of Trump and Gen. Flynn might be what is needed now.

If that were to become the Republican ticket in 2024 I'll assure you that Heaven and Earth would be moved to prevent their election.  IF they somehow got elected despite those headwinds full scale war would ensue.
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If that were to become the Republican ticket in 2024 I'll assure you that Heaven and Earth would be moved to prevent their election.  IF they somehow got elected despite those headwinds full scale war would ensue.

You know it.  There will some major manufactured crisis that will dictate Marshall Law. I mean think about it....  We are hurling toward CWII anyway.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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A civil war would not be internal to America only. Foreign powers worldwide would become involved just like the last one. And like last time they will all try to carve out their own piece of territory.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Pentagon: Gen. Milley “regularly communicates” with foreign counterparts “including with China and Russia. These conversations remain vital to…U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.”
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Pentagon: Gen. Milley “regularly communicates” with foreign counterparts “including with China and Russia. These conversations remain vital to…U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.”

Was he doing that under Trump?  Did Trump authorize him to do those things? If not Courts martial should be forthcoming REAL soon!
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Psaki...Biden has complete confidence in Milley... *****rollingeyes*****
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The @PressSec
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Jen Psaki says Biden has “complete confidence” in Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley’s “leadership, his patriotism and his fidelity to our Constitution.”
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The @PressSec
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One of these days that stupid B^%ch is likely to find out what an actual insurrection looks like!
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"This president has no intention of fomenting unrest or an insurrection," @PressSec
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Shorter Psaki: Hey, so what if Milley cozied up to China!? At least he didn't "foment an insurrection!"
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More Jen Psaki support for Milley: "He knows General Milley and he's worked beside him for the last nearly eight months and that's what gives the president confidence in him."
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Nothing to see here..just move along..

It will be interesting when Woodward hits the book selling tour and all the interviews...
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Question: So, what did Dave Butler do with this clear case of treasonous activity on Milley's part? He had a clear duty to act.

Answer: Under the UCMJ, failure to report crimes you have direct knowledge of is also an offence.

The ONLY question remaining is "Were the calls made by Milley authorized by his boss President Trump." If they were not, Milley and everyone in the military who had/has direct knowledge of his activities and did nothing should be in big trouble.

I'm not holding MY breath!
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If this is true, then why is the WH and Intelligence shredding and burning the transcripts as we speak.
If it was all normal and routine, then show us the transcripts.
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The gravamen of the issue here isn't that Milley spoke with the Chinese - no doubt there are protocols in place for regular contacts between superior officers in the U.S., Russia, China, etc. - and it isn't that Milley had a meeting with other high officers in the U.S. at which the protocols for the use of nuclear weapons were restated to make sure all were clear on them.

The gravamen of the issue here is that Milley colluded and conspired with Pelosi, and undoubtedly others, to improperly and illegally remove the sitting President - President Trump - from the chain of command for nuclear weapons (and perhaps in general), in violation of well-established rules for when and how the President can be removed, and he then utilized the meetings with other senior U.S. officers to implement that conspiracy, and conveyed the fact of the conspiracy and its success to the Chinese (along with who knows what else).

That is the gravamen here:  the conspiracy/collusion between a senior military officer and a political opponent of the President to illegally and improperly interfere with the President's Constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief.


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Jennifer Griffin's reporting is not to be trusted..she seems to be reporting only the CYA comments from the Pentagon...
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*gravamen*...never heard of that term..had to look it up!
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How long has Milley been communicating with Top Chinese Officials acting on his own volition without informing the President, the State Department, or the Intelligence Agencies?

Why does Milley have such affection and concern for the welfare of the CCP over and above his concern for The United States of America? It may be ideological, but still, someone needs to check for financial transactions involving Milley worldwide.
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