AZ Audit

[HikerGuy83]

So where is the audit ?

I can't find anything on the net that isn't left wing crap. 

Maybe not looking in the right spot.

Seems other states are now talking about audits.

Great !!!

[rustynail]

The results will be out tomorrow.

[Cyber Liberty]

The results will be out tomorrow.

Where did you hear that?  There are weeks of work to be done.  Some information might be released, but I really doubt that.  I am on the AZGOP Executive Committee, and I've gotten no such notice.

AFAIK, it's still the middle of August.

[HikerGuy83]

So what is all this BS the left is posting about.

https://apnews.com/article/business-government-and-politics-arizona-election-2020-e6158cd1b0c6442716064e6791b4c6fc

I am not sure how this even relates to the audit.

I grow so tired of the crap.

[Cyber Liberty]

AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots."  They're making crap up out of thin air.  Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots?  WTF, there are at most 2.1 million.  They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.

There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here.  We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won.  These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.

Both are bullshit.  Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.

[HikerGuy83]

AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots."  They're making crap up out of thin air.  Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots?  WTF, there are at most 2.1 million.  They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.

There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here.  We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won.  These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.

Both are bullshit.  Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.

Thank you.

I am pretty much skeptical about anything written about the audit.

[libertybele]

AP doesn't know shit about the numbers of cases of "bad ballots."  They're making crap up out of thin air.  Only 300 cases out of 3 million ballots?  WTF, there are at most 2.1 million.  They say they did their own "audit" of the ballots, which would have been a pretty neat trick considering they've been under lock and key for months.

There are two kinds of stories to be skeptical about here.  We have frozen snot like this from the far left, and then we have Gateway Pundit which leans towards the right "breaking scoops" claiming imminent releases of hard data showing Trump won.  These are the people spinning fantasies about Trump being returned to the White House in September of this year.

Both are bullshit.  Nobody's released any numbers, and I don't think there will be for weeks.

Trump being returned to the White House??  That's never going to happen! The globalists, marxists, leftists, BLM, Antia, etc., etc., will NEVER allow it.

[PeteS in CA]

There is no constitutional means for overturning a Presidential election. The US is stuck with LIEden, short of 25th Amendment removal or impeachment, in which case we'd be stuck with President Kammie.

[Fishrrman]

Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.

However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.

What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.

If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.

Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.

[libertybele]

Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.

However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.

What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.

If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.

Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.

I think they've been revealed it's just a matter of proving it and getting a court to actually listen.

[HikerGuy83]

I think they've been revealed it's just a matter of proving it and getting a court to actually listen.

Can you share how you think they've been revealed.

They obviously are still holding to the party line that this thing was fair and square.

I wish Trump would not throw gas on the fire.

We need information, not propaganda.

[HikerGuy83]

Pete, you're right about that, and no thoughtful person would believe otherwise.

However...
It's important that the audit documents whatever fraud and election manipulation (I prefer to call it "control" these days) is found.

What needs to be shown:
- If the election was stolen
- If so, how the ballots were forged, mass-produced, etc. (forensic evidence, etc.)
- If so, how the "underground election apparatus" that manufactured them operated
- Who ran such apparatus.

If there is to be any hope of stopping the communist election apparatus in the future, these things need to be revealed NOW. I sense that the apparatus that was operational in AZ was not unlike the apparati assembled in the other stolen states.

Otherwise, all this is gonna happen again in 2022, and in 2024.

Amen

[roamer_1]

There is no constitutional means for overturning a Presidential election. The US is stuck with LIEden, short of 25th Amendment removal or impeachment, in which case we'd be stuck with President Kammie.

It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.

[BassWrangler]

It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.

I sure hope so.

[HikerGuy83]

It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.

It's up to us to bust our humps getting good people elected in order to push Lieden back into his creepy black hole.

[libertybele]

It is not without its remedy. A Republican surge is almost a foregone conclusion in the midterm. And both houses of Congress can do much to tie a president's hands.

Agreed .... provided that the electoral process has been remedied by then.

[roamer_1]

It's up to us to bust our humps getting good people elected in order to push Lieden back into his creepy black hole.

Have at it. For the most part, I don't see that as the trouble.

The Republicans are the problem. If they were doing their job, the left would be toothless.
More of the same ol rah rah bullcrap won't fix a damn thing.

[roamer_1]

Agreed .... provided that the electoral process has been remedied by then.

Pretty  hard to jack the midterms.

[Cyber Liberty]

Pretty  hard to jack the midterms.

Wanna bet?

[roamer_1]

Wanna bet?

Yeah. Maybe a state or two, but it ain't like the general... Multiple targets instead of one

[BassWrangler]

Wanna bet?

My prediction is that Trump will show up at the last minute, step on his Johnson with some poorly thought out comment, and the Dems will ride this to a partial victory. He seems to be more reserved these days, so hopefully I am wrong. on the other hand, it might just be that he's banned from all social media platforms, and so doesn't have the ability to wake up early and fire off the inflammatory missives before his staff shows up.

[HikerGuy83]

Have at it. For the most part, I don't see that as the trouble.

The Republicans are the problem. If they were doing their job, the left would be toothless.
More of the same ol rah rah bullcrap won't fix a damn thing.

O.K.

You need me to say that good people does not mean people who can lie their asses off and tell you what you want to hear ?

Otherwise, I can share with you that I've learned through long experience that my yard does not mow itself. 

If I want it mowed, I have to get behind the mower and push.

[HikerGuy83]

My prediction is that Trump will show up at the last minute, step on his Johnson with some poorly thought out comment, and the Dems will ride this to a partial victory. He seems to be more reserved these days, so hopefully I am wrong. on the other hand, it might just be that he's banned from all social media platforms, and so doesn't have the ability to wake up early and fire off the inflammatory missives before his staff shows up.

I don't know where Trump lands in this next go around. 

It can't be partial though.

He's either in or out and if he loses, he better keep his big mouth shut.

[HikerGuy83]

Yeah. Maybe a state or two, but it ain't like the general... Multiple targets instead of one

Take NOTHING for granted.

I think Obama somehow thought he owned congress and got his shinny little butt waxed in 2010.

[HikerGuy83]

NOW

Back to the audit.

From what I can tell, there is nothing official and nothing that hints and the results.

Some of my left-wing associates are already taking victory laps claiming that if there was anything, the Cyber Ninjas would be plastering it all over the web.

[roamer_1]

O.K.

You need me to say that good people does not mean people who can lie their asses off and tell you what you want to hear ?

Otherwise, I can share with you that I've learned through long experience that my yard does not mow itself. 

If I want it mowed, I have to get behind the mower and push.

Yeah... see, that analogy would work except it ain't you pushing the mower.... You've contracted the work. And your contractor does nothing, never shows up, and keeps blaming your knee-deep grass on the contractor mowing your neighbor.

We would have a saying for that up in here: That dog don't hunt. And I am all done trying to make it hunt. Time for a different damn dog.

[BassWrangler]

..., he better keep his big mouth shut.

That's one skill he does not have. The guy is a master at shooting himself in the foot.

[libertybele]

‘Botched’: Arizona GOP’s ballot count ends, troubles persist

Arizona Republicans’ partisan review of the 2020 election results got off to a rocky start when their contractors broke rules for counting ballots and election experts warned the work was dangerous for democracy.

When the auditors stopped the counting and returned the ballots this week, it hadn’t gotten better. In the last week alone, the only audit leader with substantial election experience was locked out of the building, went on the radio to say he was quitting, then reversed course hours later. The review’s Twitter accounts were suspended for breaking the rules. A conservative Republican senator withdrew her support, calling the process “botched.” And the lead auditor confirmed what was long suspected: that his work was almost entirely paid for by supporters of Donald Trump who were active in the former president’s movement to spread false narratives of fraud. ........

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-election-2020-e31f6eb911adb01086281291ca9e6dcf

[Cyber Liberty]

‘Botched’: Arizona GOP’s ballot count ends, troubles persist

Arizona Republicans’ partisan review of the 2020 election results got off to a rocky start when their contractors broke rules for counting ballots and election experts warned the work was dangerous for democracy.

When the auditors stopped the counting and returned the ballots this week, it hadn’t gotten better. In the last week alone, the only audit leader with substantial election experience was locked out of the building, went on the radio to say he was quitting, then reversed course hours later. The review’s Twitter accounts were suspended for breaking the rules. A conservative Republican senator withdrew her support, calling the process “botched.” And the lead auditor confirmed what was long suspected: that his work was almost entirely paid for by supporters of Donald Trump who were active in the former president’s movement to spread false narratives of fraud. ........

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-election-2020-e31f6eb911adb01086281291ca9e6dcf

The last place I might look to for fair reporting about the AZ Audit would be the Associated Press.  They don't know Shinola, they're just speculating from thin air.

[HikerGuy83]

Yeah... see, that analogy would work except it ain't you pushing the mower.... You've contracted the work. And your contractor does nothing, never shows up, and keeps blaming your knee-deep grass on the contractor mowing your neighbor.

We would have a saying for that up in here: That dog don't hunt. And I am all done trying to make it hunt. Time for a different damn dog.

You don't get it both ways.

Either you hire another contractor or you live with the yard.

You seem O.K with the yard.

[roamer_1]

You don't get it both ways.

Either you hire another contractor or you live with the yard.

You seem O.K with the yard.

Nah.. Like I said, better to put my efforts into the CP, and that is what I am doing. Sure as hell better odds than banking on Republicans... And back east ones particularly.

Seems to me it's y'all that are OK with the yard.

[Smokin Joe]

The last place I might look to for fair reporting about the AZ Audit would be the Associated Press.  They don't know Shinola, they're just speculating from thin air.

AP is already collaborating with Facebook, Twitter, and the Biden Administration to control the COVID narrative.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

[HikerGuy83]

Have not seen or heard much on the audit.

[Cyber Liberty]

Have not seen or heard much on the audit.

Me neither.   

[rustynail]

BREAKING BIG — Jovan Pulitzer: Arizona Audit Report Will be Delivered to Senate on Friday, Results Will Be Earth-Shattering

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-big-jovan-pulitzer-arizona-audit-report-will-delivered-senate-friday-results-will-earth-shattering/

[Cyber Liberty]

BREAKING BIG — Jovan Pulitzer: Arizona Audit Report Will be Delivered to Senate on Friday, Results Will Be Earth-Shattering

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/breaking-big-jovan-pulitzer-arizona-audit-report-will-delivered-senate-friday-results-will-earth-shattering/

Giving it to the Senate is one thing (and Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results), the Senate giving it to us is another.

[rustynail]

Giving it to the Senate is one thing (and Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results), the Senate giving it to us is another.

There is always tomorrow...

[Cyber Liberty]

There is always tomorrow...

Hoft said "Friday," but not which Friday...

[PeteS in CA]

... Hoft has been breathakingly wrong in previous stories claiming imminent release of Audit results ...

Gateway Pundit reports all the news that is too good to factcheck but will garner clicks. Quite a sad plunge from what they were a decade ago or so.

[BassWrangler]

Hoft said "Friday," but not which Friday...

At this point, what's the point? They've lost all momentum.

[sneakypete]

Trump being returned to the White House??  That's never going to happen! The globalists, marxists, leftists, BLM, Antia, etc., etc., will NEVER allow it.

@libertybele

The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.

I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.

[rustynail]

Arizona GOP audit delayed after Cyber Ninjas members contract COVID-19

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/569060-arizona-gop-audit-delayed-after-cyber-ninjas-members-contract-covid-19

[Smokin Joe]

The partisan “audit” has been dogged by questions over its competence and validity since March when the Senate, without a bid process, ....

Ahh, the Hill. Pejorative much?  Calling it "partisan" is designed to detract from the results, but using quotation marks around 'audit', even calls into question the validity of the findings and procedures used to obtain them.

Attackers have questioned the audit from the start, as a form of attack (as if that wasn't partisan).

Sheesh.

[DB]

Ahh, the Hill. Pejorative much?  Calling it "partisan" is designed to detract from the results, but using quotation marks around 'audit', even calls into question the validity of the findings and procedures used to obtain them.

Attackers have questioned the audit from the start, as a form of attack (as if that wasn't partisan).

Sheesh.

Calling it a partisan "audit" is a DNC talking point used widely by the media even here in Arizona.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.

I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.

@sneakypete I'm more of a realist. The election was stolen by DEM fraud. Have you seen any signs that the RNC is ensuring ballot integrity in 2024? If not, what makes you think that another election won't be stolen? 

As for riots, 75,000,000 strong and peacefully China Joe was sworn in. 

With nothing changing, I don't expect different results.

IMO we've already lost our Republic.  Neither the GOP, RNC or our SCOTUS were willing to acknowledge fraud and do something about it.  Here we sit.

[HikerGuy83]

This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline.

[roamer_1]

This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline.

[Fishrrman]

Hiker wrote:
"This thing is like a bad joke with no punchline."

I agree.
Lots of promises, with no visible results.

Cyber Liberty, is this ever gonna see the light of day?
Or... are Republicans gonna come out the worse for having sponsored it...?

[BassWrangler]

@libertybele

The people who think Trump is going to be installed in the WH if Joe steps down are delusional fools.

I FULLY expect Trump to win the Presidential election in 2024,though. If he runs and doesn't win,I FULLY expect riots in the streets. Look for me because I will be there,pretty much equipped for anything that happens. We either revolt and take America back then,or America is OVER.

Unfortunately, Trump seems to attract an inordinate number of delusional fools.

For the good of the country, I hope he doesn't run. He can do more good by throwing his support behind a candidate of his choice (I still like DeSantis).

[sneakypete]

Unfortunately, Trump seems to attract an inordinate number of delusional fools.

For the good of the country, I hope he doesn't run. He can do more good by throwing his support behind a candidate of his choice (I still like DeSantis).

@BassWrangler

Speaking of delusional fools.........