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« on: June 08, 2021, 12:49:24 pm »

The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future

05/22/2021 / By News Editors

The setting of a net-zero target by the Biden Administration was the first step toward decarbonization of the energy system and industry. But having a target is the easiest part of America’s energy transition. Now comes the much more difficult part of making all those proposals and ideas for a greener future work.
 

Emissions reduction, decarbonization of the U.S. power grid by 2035, and increased electrification in the transportation and buildings sectors will require an enormous amount of investment from industry as well as government support.

The challenges will be not only to raise trillions of U.S. dollars of investment—the sooner the better—but also to change consumer perception about electric vehicles (EVs) and space heating, for example, as well as persuade communities to host exponentially growing solar and wind power generating facilities.

https://www.pollution.news/2021-05-22-us-not-ready-for-all-electric-future.html
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2021, 01:09:58 pm »
EVs are the future, and always will be.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 01:44:26 pm »
EV's may be the future but there will be unexpected costs and growing pains.

It just means my future is getting more expensive.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 05:02:39 pm »
Incredibly expensive. Just to totally electrify the US transportation system will take the construction of at least 3000 1200 MW nuclear plants, or about 3000000 windmills. This is beyond the combined industrial capacities of the entire planet.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2021, 08:10:45 pm »
Quote from: Joe Wooten on June 08, 2021, 05:02:39 pm
Incredibly expensive. Just to totally electrify the US transportation system will take the construction of at least 3000 1200 MW nuclear plants, or about 3000000 windmills. This is beyond the combined industrial capacities of the entire planet.
So if I get you right, at current technology level, it will occur on the twelfth of never.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2021, 09:16:28 pm »
Not ready?


I'm shocked!
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 12:54:51 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 08, 2021, 09:16:28 pm
Not ready?


I'm shocked!

And electrified!
Are you amped up yet?
Are you current on changes in this?
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 01:03:54 pm »
No one has a right to 24/7/365 electrical power.  With smart allocation techniques there can be  adequate power for most  transportation on an as needed basis.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 01:19:56 pm »
Not only not ready, but hopefully some dipshit dims will realize that this stupid conversion is going to put us at a significant competitive disadvantage across the board in every aspect.

Our enemies are licking their chops at our stupidity.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 06:06:52 pm »
catfish complains:
"...hopefully some dipshit dims will realize that this stupid conversion is going to put us at a significant competitive disadvantage across the board in every aspect."

Did it occur to you that that might be their INTENT...?
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2021, 08:22:41 pm »
Quote from: Joe Wooten on June 09, 2021, 12:54:51 pm
And electrified!
Are you amped up yet?
Are you current on changes in this?
Watt changes? What did they switch now?
I know it hertz, but I have to put up as much resistance as I can.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 08:23:14 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on June 09, 2021, 06:06:52 pm
catfish complains:
"...hopefully some dipshit dims will realize that this stupid conversion is going to put us at a significant competitive disadvantage across the board in every aspect."

Did it occur to you that that might be their INTENT...?
Why, yes. Yes, it did.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2021, 08:27:35 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on June 09, 2021, 01:03:54 pm
No one has a right to 24/7/365 electrical power.  With smart allocation techniques there can be  adequate power for most  transportation on an as needed basis.
First, say that when it is -30 out. No electricity, that forced air gas furnace is just another thing in the basement. A couple of hours and the best insulated (non earth-bermed) houses are 'chilly' at best.

Second, I have seen some of the things considered "smart".  **nononono* 'nuff said.

Who decides what is "needed" by whom?
(Do we have to wear masks?)

As I have been saying, the next Holdomor will be over energy.
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Re: The U.S. is not ready for an all-electric future
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2021, 08:37:54 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on June 09, 2021, 01:03:54 pm
No one has a right to 24/7/365 electrical power.  With smart allocation techniques there can be  adequate power for most  transportation on an as needed basis.

WRONG!
Who determines the needs?
Right now there is only a small reserve margin to cover higher than normal usage.
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,437895.msg2436586.html#msg2436586
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