Your top 5 Conservative Presidential candidates for 2024.

[Mesaclone]

Yes, it’s way too early...but it might be informative to see who our little internal sample of conservatives see as the best 5 Presidential candidates for 2024.

My picks are:
1. Donald J Trump
2. Ted Cruz
3. Rand Paul
4. Ron DeSantis
5. Josh Hawley

Honorable Mention: Greg Abbott, Kristi Noem

[Right_in_Virginia]

Since there's no corresponding article, shouldn't this be moved to "General Discussion" or even to "Members Only" @Cyber Liberty

This has dumpster fire written all over it and there really is other political news.

[Cyber Liberty]

Since there's no corresponding article, shouldn't this be moved to "General Discussion" or even to "Members Only" @Cyber Liberty

This has dumpster fire written all over it and there really is other political news.

 

I think it would benefit if I add a Poll and moved it into Polls....

[Right_in_Virginia]

I think it would benefit if I add a Poll and moved it into Polls....

Even better 

[Hoodat]

Not sure who Rob DeSantis is, but I would be willing to vote for Ron DeSantis.

[corbe]

  Just say NO to the Nikki Haley movement.



   She ate to much Toilet Paper as a child.

[catfish1957]

1. Cotton
2. Cruz
3. DeSantis
4. Hawley
5. Noem

Nikki Haley can GTH...

[Fishrrman]

Ted Cruz will never be president due to natural-born-citizenship issues.

Before you jump in and say, "obama"...
Before you jump in and say, "harris"...

Remember:
"Rules for thee, and NOT for me."
The left -- and the press -- will attack Cruz relentlessly on this, until he's forced to drop out of the running...

[libertybele]

Ted Cruz will never be president due to natural-born-citizenship issues.

Before you jump in and say, "obama"...
Before you jump in and say, "harris"...

Remember:
"Rules for thee, and NOT for me."
The left -- and the press -- will attack Cruz relentlessly on this, until he's forced to drop out of the running...

First of all, UNTIL we get the issue of election fraud settled and fixed and the RNC gets their act together and gets rid of Ronna; we're not going to see another election. Also keep in mind that the DEMS WILL change the electoral process.

But I'll play along....

I still would vote for Ted.

I would like to see a Noem Cruz or Cruz Noem ticket. 

I think we're playing with fire as far as DeSantis....he's one to consider but I think this coming year will be more revealing as far as his conservatism. 

[jmyrlefuller]

Kristi Noem.

[roamer_1]

Yes, it’s way too early...but it might be informative to see who our little internal sample of conservatives see as the best 5 Presidential candidates for 2024.

My picks are:
1. Donald J Trump
2. Ted Cruz
3. Rand Paul
4. Ron DeSantis
5. Josh Hawley

Honorable Mention: Greg Abbott, Kristi Noem

Not Tump.
Not Senators.
Look to governors and leave the senators be.

[libertybele]

Not Tump.
Not Senators.
Look to governors and leave the senators be.

IMHO by 2024 Trump will be too old.  I think Don Jr. will run.  Over everyone, I pick Noem. 

[roamer_1]

IMHO by 2024 Trump will be too old.  I think Don Jr. will run.  Over everyone, I pick Noem.

No more Tumps. I want a seasoned governor with an impeccable Conservative record. It used to be common knowledge to let congressmen and senators go run a state for a while before letting them be president. I think that is the best of all worlds.

I would look seriously at a businessman that had serious conservative credz... But not an international one, or one from a large corp.

That being said, I would pull the lever for Cotton or Paul, and probably Cruz. I don't know Noem from a row of pins, so I would have to research that guy.

[jafo2010]

Interesting comments.  One person does not know Gov DeSantis, FL, another Gov Christy Noem, SD.

If Trump does run, he gets the nomination.  PERIOD!!!! 

And if he doesn't, I say it is Gov DeSantis, FL or Gov Noem, SD.  I can easily see a pairing of the two, most likely DeSantis/Noem. 

I am not sure what problem the person(s) have with DeSantis.  I like what he has done, for he has shown strong leadership ability during this pandemic.  So too, Gov Noem has shown extraordinary leadership ability and represented her people well, despite being a small population state.  It is possible she could become the first female POTUS.

I am in the senators are not qualified club.  Cruz and Cotton may well run, but I do not seeing either one rising to the top. 

So Tier 1 is Trump; no Trump, Tier 2 are Governors DeSantis and Noem.

[Cyber Liberty]

No more Tumps. I want a seasoned governor with an impeccable Conservative record. It used to be common knowledge to let congressmen and senators go run a state for a while before letting them be president. I think that is the best of all worlds.

I would look seriously at a businessman that had serious conservative credz... But not an international one, or one from a large corp.

That being said, I would pull the lever for Cotton or Paul, and probably Cruz. I don't know Noem from a row of pins, so I would have to research that guy.

That "guy":

[roamer_1]

That "guy":

Ah. Thanks for the correction. As I said, I am unfamiliar. I don't pay it much mind until the silly season, when all the hats are in the ring, and choices resolve... Then it is a simple matter to look at the record and score the field.

The only way that changes is when there is a movement afoot, with an intent to throw the bastards out - and a candidate(s) should be groomed. I don't need to develop emotional attachments that cloud reason... So I mainly attend the record.

[libertybele]

Ah. Thanks for the correction. As I said, I am unfamiliar. I don't pay it much mind until the silly season, when all the hats are in the ring, and choices resolve... Then it is a simple matter to look at the record and score the field.

The only way that changes is when there is a movement afoot, with an intent to throw the bastards out - and a candidate(s) should be groomed. I don't need to develop emotional attachments that cloud reason... So I mainly attend the record.

She is the current governor of S. Dakota. So far she has a very conservative record and her speech at Mt. Rushmore was inspiring and very conservative.

She is one to consider, HOWEVER, she's only been governor for a year and making sure she is conservative enough is really important.  The bills that she signs needs to be closely examined as well as her speeches and the actions that she takes from now til 2022 as governor.  I like her, and so far, I place her at the top of my list of potentials, but she needs further scrutiny and evaluation as does every single person considered including the five listed.  They all need to be continually evaluated for their conservatism.  Constitutional conservatism is what is needed.

[roamer_1]

She is the current governor of S. Dakota. She has a very conservative record and her speech at Mt. Rushmore was awe inspiring and very conservative.

Ah. SODAK. The one who stood against the mask mandates and lockdowns? I remember that. very good.

[massadvj]

Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Cristy Noem
John Stossel
The corpse of Milton Friedman (likely more alert than Biden)
Greg Abbot
Rick Perry
Marjorie Taylor Greene (just to see some heads explode)
Scott Adams
The Buffalo Hat Guy

[libertybele]

Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Cristy Noem
John Stossel
The corpse of Milton Friedman (likely more alert than Biden)
Greg Abbot
Rick Perry
Marjorie Taylor Greene (just to see some heads explode)
Scott Adams
The Buffalo Hat Guy

I would eliminate Rick Perry.  I like him well enough and he was a great governor, but he was also involved in the plan for a North American Union and ties into that with Giuliani.  I also didn't like his mandates on forced vaccinations for HPV.

As for DeSantis, he is my governor here in FL and on the surface he seems conservative enough, but he also gave the head of our FL Dept. of Health the authority to quarantine anyone who they felt was a threat to the health security of the state....not exactly a conservative move.  I continue to watch him.  He absolutely failed as well on the unemployment rollout and xtended govt assistance.  Lots of people are still owed money and lots of people haven't seen a dime.  Where is all that $$$??  He spent millions to repair that system, but it still failed.  He appointed Dane Eagle, who lost his district seat and who I've met personally. He has voted conservatively to handle the mess and I'm waiting to see what happens.

No one is perfect, but I don't care to look past DeSantis' flaws right now.

Greene is too new and one to watch, I don't know Buffalo Hat guy.  The others for now seem like good viable candidates; however under the Constitution Ted really isn't eligible.

I still lean towards Noem, but as I stated up thread, she's new and I think she still needs to be closely watched and evaluated.  They ALL do.

[Bigun]

Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Cristy Noem
John Stossel
The corpse of Milton Friedman (likely more alert than Biden)
Greg Abbot
Rick Perry
Marjorie Taylor Greene (just to see some heads explode)
Scott Adams
The Buffalo Hat Guy

I'll take any one of the governors you mention over any of the senators.

In this order at the moment. 

1. Cristy Noem (because she is female)
2. Ron Desantis



3. Gregg Abbott

[roamer_1]

Alright... Since we're playing...

According to the RECORD: Which of the names on this thread are

1. Of unimpeachable character. Word matters. If they are not of good character, how do you know they will keep their promises.

2. Capable of assembling a coalition. The primary function of a leader is the ability to provide organization and direction around a common cause. The army of voters is of little use without corporals and sergeants, lieutenants, colonels  and generals... It ain't a kingdom. It ain't about ordination and appointment on high. It is about coalescence and cohesion that those that matter and can be effective are available for ordination and appointment in the first place.

3. Will NOT betray libertarianism.
4. Will NOT betray fiscal conservatism.
5. Will NOT betray social conservatism.
6. will NOT betray defense and foreign policy conservatism.

NOBODY goes under the bus or we WILL lose - Even if we win, without those interlaced and interlocking principles standing unmolested, any victory will be to no avail, as has been proven over and over and over again.

And once those prerequisites are well satisfied: Who among them will win ground for those self same principles?

Because y'all have to get serious about it if you want to save America. ONLY libertarianism, fiscal conservatism, a strong moral sense built around Yah, and the ability to defeat our enemies will save us. PERIOD.

Y'all. No more time for concessions. No more time for compromise. You WILL defend her by those principles, or you WILL defend her with your blood. That's all she wrote. Without utterly deadly conviction, all is lost already.

[Cyber Liberty]

Alright... Since we're playing...

According to the RECORD: Which of the names on this thread are

1. Of unimpeachable character. Word matters. If they are not of good character, how do you know they will keep their promises.

2. Capable of assembling a coalition. The primary function of a leader is the ability to provide organization and direction around a common cause. The army of voters is of little use without corporals and sergeants, lieutenants, colonels  and generals... It ain't a kingdom. It ain't about ordination and appointment on high. It is about coalescence and cohesion that those that matter and can be effective are available for ordination and appointment in the first place.

3. Will NOT betray libertarianism.
4. Will NOT betray fiscal conservatism.
5. Will NOT betray social conservatism.
6. will NOT betray defense and foreign policy conservatism.

NOBODY goes under the bus or we WILL lose - Even if we win, without those interlaced and interlocking principles standing unmolested, any victory will be to no avail, as has been proven over and over and over again.

And once those prerequisites are well satisfied: Who among them will win ground for those self same principles?

Because y'all have to get serious about it if you want to save America. ONLY libertarianism, fiscal conservatism, a strong moral sense built around Yah, and the ability to defeat our enemies will save us. PERIOD.

Y'all. No more time for concessions. No more time for compromise. You WILL defend her by those principles, or you WILL defend her with your blood. That's all she wrote. Without utterly deadly conviction, all is lost already.

Since this is a poll thread, do you have anybody you like for President?

[roamer_1]

Since this is a poll thread, do you have anybody you like for President?

That being said, I would pull the lever for Cotton or Paul, and probably Cruz. I don't know Noem from a row of pins, so I would have to research that guy.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sorry...I got lost in "that guy."  LOL!  She's good so far, but a shallow record.  I like Cruz and Cotton, but I still prefer a Governor with executive experience.  The top skill of a Senator seems to be to compromise.

[roamer_1]

Sorry...I got lost in "that guy."  LOL!  She's good so far, but a shallow record.

Right. But she does have balls. Which is more than I can say for most. She stood in that maelstrom and would not move. Conviction shows character. Predictably, I can vote for that.

I like Cruz and Cotton, but I still prefer a Governor with executive experience.  The top skill of a Senator seems to be to compromise.

That's right. I would much prefer a governor, which used to be the rule of thumb.

[Smokin Joe]

Sorry...I got lost in "that guy."  LOL!  She's good so far, but a shallow record.  I like Cruz and Cotton, but I still prefer a Governor with executive experience.  The top skill of a Senator seems to be to compromise.

I concur. Noem looks good so far, more digging and time will tell. She sure stood up to the GOPe and the Medical Micromanagers.

[Slide Rule]

Yes, it’s way too early...but it might be informative to see who our little internal sample of conservatives see as the best 5 Presidential candidates for 2024.

My picks are:
1. Donald J Trump
2. Ted Cruz
3. Rand Paul
4. Ron DeSantis
5. Josh Hawley

Honorable Mention: Greg Abbott, Kristi Noem

There is only one candidate and we all know it.

He is the leader of our party.
Because an election was stolen does not mean we throw a fine man under the bus.

The Donald.

Donald Trump.

It is disgusting to see Never Trumper action on a relatively conservative political site.

Slide Rule.

[GrouchoTex]

Any of those listed, and add Noem.
I do not know yet if Trump will run again.
I guess we will all know in 4 years.

[jmyrlefuller]

Ah. SODAK. The one who stood against the mask mandates and lockdowns? I remember that. very good.

And that's where she shot up my leaderboard. I'd heard of Noem when she'd been in SD's at-large Congress seat. (She's also responsible for unleashing Tomi Lahren on the world, since Noem hired her as a staffer before OAN plucked her up—but I can forgive her for that.)

[catfish1957]

There is only one candidate and we all know it.

He is the leader of our party.
Because an election was stolen does not mean we throw a fine man under the bus.

The Donald.

Donald Trump.

It is disgusting to see Never Trumper action on a relatively conservative political site.

Slide Rule.

You are kidding I hope.  There are many of us Trump supporters that are more than willing to have some one new take the mantle and run with his ideas.  Calling everyone here a NT who doesn't want him in 2024 is a losing hand.

[libertybele]

You are kidding I hope.  There are many of us Trump supporters that are more than willing to have some one new take the mantle and run with his ideas.  Calling everyone here a NT who doesn't want him in 2024 is a losing hand.

Agreed. Right now, he's just trying to make it through his 2nd ridiculous impeachment.  Give the guy a break, he'll be 78 in 2024.

First thing of order; find a way to even have a fair election, otherwise, it's not going to matter who runs, the DEMS will seat who they want.

[roamer_1]

And that's where she shot up my leaderboard. I'd heard of Noem when she'd been in SD's at-large Congress seat. (She's also responsible for unleashing Tomi Lahren on the world, since Noem hired her as a staffer before OAN plucked her up—but I can forgive her for that.)

Shrugs 

Can't say yet... I LIKE that she stood directly in libertarianism in a maelstrom against it and would_not_move. That speaks of character. But I don't get distracted by shiny things. I can applaud it for sure, but how is she doing on budget? Where is she on defense and moral issues? Because I will not settle for less than the whole enchilada.

[txradioguy]

Cruz

Jordan

Lee

Zeldin

DeSantis

[jafo2010]

There are few here that would claim Trump does not have a LOCK ON 2024, should he decide to run.  However, he will be four years older, and after he has a chance to unwind and return to life as normal, he might just decide it is not worth his time.  I would not blame him.

And worse yet, the corrupt media will be ruthless.  Now we all know he has nothing but scorn for these wankers, but one does get to a point where if you cannot line them up and deal with them as they well deserve, then who needs their bullsh*t.  For their inappropriate behavior, many should have been tossed from the Press Corp long ago.  The lack of integrity and professionalism is tiresome.

So, should Trump say no, then I like Noem for one more key reason, she is not a stinking lawyer.  I have zero love for lawyers.  Now, Desantis, I like him, but he is a Harvard lawyer, and I think Harvard is a school I would like to see slide in regard within America, for I believe it is grossly overrated.

[Polly Ticks]

Candace Owens is talking about throwing in her hat, too. Not sure if she's serious or not, though ....

[libertybele]

Well, Noem would now be out for me; she favors pathway for illegals to citizenship.  She is considered a libertarian conservative.  Her stance on other issues (link below).

I won't be voting GOP anyways.  The party deserves to die.  A new party and renewed constitutional gov't needs to be inserted.

https://www.ontheissues.org/house/Kristi_Noem.htm

[libertybele]

Shrugs 

Can't say yet... I LIKE that she stood directly in libertarianism in a maelstrom against it and would_not_move. That speaks of character. But I don't get distracted by shiny things. I can applaud it for sure, but how is she doing on budget? Where is she on defense and moral issues? Because I will not settle for less than the whole enchilada.

@roamer_1  article on budget:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/08/read-gov-kristi-noems-full-budget-address-south-dakota-legislature/6494471002/

[roamer_1]

Well, Noem would now be out for me; she favors pathway for illegals to citizenship.  She is considered a libertarian conservative.  Her stance on other issues (link below).

 

@roamer_1  article on budget:

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/08/read-gov-kristi-noems-full-budget-address-south-dakota-legislature/6494471002/

NOPE. Full_Dead_Stop. 'Path to Citizenship' is a non-starter. *NOT* libertarian, *NOT* law and order. Hence I have no interest in her budget or anything else.

Tough sh*t, there it is. 

[Slide Rule]

You are kidding I hope.  There are many of us Trump supporters that are more than willing to have some one new take the mantle and run with his ideas.  Calling everyone here a NT who doesn't want him in 2024 is a losing hand.

I didn't say everyone, only it seemed bad form for this topic at this time on a relatively conservative forum.

Or, are you feeling guilty?

When I kid, you will know it.

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[catfish1957]

I didn't say everyone, only it seemed bad form for this topic at this time on a relatively conservative forum.

Or, are you feeling guilty?

When I kid, you will know it.

Slide Rule

Feeling Guilty?  I posted this list earlier and the thread, and stand by it, as the best choices we got right now.

1. Cotton
2. Cruz
3. DeSantis
4. Hawley
5. Noem

If we can get one of these 5 to run  with wisdom and demeanor of Reagan, while having Trump bamblast the opposition...  In a fair election, we would win in a landslide.

[libertybele]

NOPE. Full_Dead_Stop. 'Path to Citizenship' is a non-starter. *NOT* libertarian, *NOT* law and order. Hence I have no interest in her budget or anything else.

Tough sh*t, there it is. 

Absolutely agree.  The GOP needs a solid conservative; the DEMS and the GOPe will never allow the 5 listed to stand a chance of being nominated.  Above all, obviously, we need a fair election otherwise regardless who the GOP runs is a mute issue.

[roamer_1]

Absolutely agree.  The GOP needs a solid conservative; the DEMS and the GOPe will never allow the 5 listed to stand a chance of being nominated.  Above all, obviously, we need a fair election otherwise regardless who the GOP runs is a mute issue.

That's all right. 

[catfish1957]

Absolutely agree.  The GOP needs a solid conservative; the DEMS and the GOPe will never allow the 5 listed to stand a chance of being nominated.  Above all, obviously, we need a fair election otherwise regardless who the GOP runs is a mute issue.

Exactly, when they pulled off this coup, they realized this could be done with a squelched  opposition.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Anyone but Trump. And reminder that I voted for him twice.

[Slide Rule]

Feeling Guilty?  I posted this list earlier and the thread, and stand by it, as the best choices we got right now.

1. Cotton
2. Cruz
3. DeSantis
4. Hawley
5. Noem

If we can get one of these 5 to run  with wisdom and demeanor of Reagan, while having Trump bamblast the opposition...  In a fair election, we would win in a landslide.

I hate it when a partial post disappears.  Try again.

There seem to be many qualifications in you post.

The Marxists would treat any other candidate better than they have treated Trump?
They have gained power from their steal. What would be the incentive to welcome a Reagan look or sound alike?
I doubt the present Marxists would welcome anyone you could pick, or worse anyone I could pick.

They are not going by the Constitution, by precedence, nor by civility.  I expect that to continue and escallate.
On that basis, we need as dangerous a person as can be elected. Not dangerous because of what he would do,
but dangerous of what he is capable of doing.  Lefties in history respect power.

We need the most powerful candidate we can find. I doubt a strong candidate would assume a cheerleader role.

We still have the issue of a rigged election with voting machines connected to the internet. This has installed leaders
worldwide that appeal to the left.  Why would they abandon such a system.

We need to put their dicks in a vice and tighten it all the way.

I think we have similar goals. If you are a never Trumper then this conversation is over.

It is my goal to have free elections without someones hand adjusting the numbers.
It is also my goal to prosecute, and execute those found guilty of treason.

Enough.

[catfish1957]

I hate it when a partial post disappears.  Try again.

There seem to be many qualifications in you post.

The Marxists would treat any other candidate better than they have treated Trump?
They have gained power from their steal. What would be the incentive to welcome a Reagan look or sound alike?
I doubt the present Marxists would welcome anyone you could pick, or worse anyone I could pick.

They are not going by the Constitution, by precedence, nor by civility.  I expect that to continue and escallate.
On that basis, we need as dangerous a person as can be elected. Not dangerous because of what he would do,
but dangerous of what he is capable of doing.  Lefties in history respect power.

We need the most powerful candidate we can find. I doubt a strong candidate would assume a cheerleader role.

We still have the issue of a rigged election with voting machines connected to the internet. This has installed leaders
worldwide that appeal to the left.  Why would they abandon such a system.

We need to put their dicks in a vice and tighten it all the way.

I think we have similar goals. If you are a never Trumper then this conversation is over.

It is my goal to have free elections without someones hand adjusting the numbers.
It is also my goal to prosecute, and execute those found guilty of treason.

Enough.

What part of the post disappeared? I replied with no adjustments?   ???????

I get your drift.  You want and only want a guy who will be well in his  '80's as he leaves office,  if he is elected in 2024.

I OTOH, prefer a more practical and plausible approach that infuses new blood in the tenants of putting America First concepts that DJT started.  We got an upcoming Octogenarian drooler in there right now.  No thanks.

[Cyber Liberty]

Trump is not the only one capable. Insisting he is isn't realistic.

This is why we get stamped as Trump cultists.

[Smokin Joe]

Feeling Guilty?  I posted this list earlier and the thread, and stand by it, as the best choices we got right now.

1. Cotton
2. Cruz
3. DeSantis
4. Hawley
5. Noem

If we can get one of these 5 to run  with wisdom and demeanor of Reagan, while having Trump bamblast the opposition...  In a fair election, we would win in a landslide.

Whatever the case, now is the time to start looking, not two or three years from now.

[Slide Rule]

What part of the post disappeared? I replied with no adjustments?   ???????

I get your drift.  You want and only want a guy who will be well in his  '80's as he leaves office,  if he is elected in 2024.

I OTOH, prefer a more practical and plausible approach that infuses new blood in the tenants of putting America First concepts that DJT started.  We got an upcoming Octogenarian drooler in there right now.  No thanks.

My original draft disappeared, so I had to do it over.

I would prefer the knowledge of a successful 80 year old, to someone without the knowledge and fantastic health.
I doubt you get my drift.


Trump is a remarkable person.  If he ran out of his basement, then I might agree.


There is no way he wouldn't be tested by other conservatives, and the media.
He would have to pass the test. The media would notice if Trump drooled.

The 2024 election is way off and much can happen until then. In the meantime, give Trump the respect he has earned.

Disrespect was the reason for my first post below.

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