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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2021, 08:52:39 pm »
Low information voters who could not be bothered to vote down ballot.

It took you 11 1/2 minutes to come up with that lame smear of Trump voters.  Quoting @Wingnut, "Piddiful, piddiful!"

This is why I extrapolate your constant sneering descriptions of regular people to smearing this forum you insist on inflicting yourself.  You are disrespectful and a disgrace.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2021, 09:04:34 pm »
It took you 11 1/2 minutes to come up with that lame smear of Trump voters.  Quoting @Wingnut, "Piddiful, piddiful!"

This is why I extrapolate your constant sneering descriptions of regular people to smearing this forum you insist on inflicting yourself.  You are disrespectful and a disgrace.

You are intent on finding personal offense when none is intended.   There were plenty of low- information Biden voters too,  who couldn't be bothered to vote down ballot.   The problem is that there were millions more of them.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2021, 09:07:52 pm »
Low information voters who could not be bothered to vote down ballot.   They likely won't be back.

Cheney voters = Low information voters.  Got it.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2021, 09:10:23 pm »
It took you 11 1/2 minutes to come up with that lame smear of Trump voters.  Quoting @Wingnut, "Piddiful, piddiful!"

We have gone full circle.  Initially, the narrative was how Republicans abandoned Trump but voted for GOP candidates down-ticket.  Now, it's the exact opposite.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2021, 09:18:56 pm »
I've responded multiple times about the January 6 speech.   And don't confuse my loathing for Trump with love for Democrats.  To the contrary.   I respected Trump, despite my discomfort with his tweets and other crapola,  before he went on his hissy fit about his reelection being "stolen".   His recent behavior has squandered all he accomplished for conservatives and working people. He has set back the cause by years.   He threw it all away,  including most tragically the hopes of his own supporters.

I'm not going to beat this back and forth anymore.  I have made my point.  You have made yours. 

I look at the evidence and see that the election was stolen and Trump had every right to a fair election as well as each and every person who voted.  It is very difficult for me to fathom anyone thinking we got a fair election, when Trump, who won in 2016, received more votes in 2020, yet still lost.  The. math. doesn't. add. up.

You are entitled to your opinion.

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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2021, 09:35:07 pm »
You are intent on finding personal offense when none is intended.   There were plenty of low- information Biden voters too,  who couldn't be bothered to vote down ballot.   The problem is that there were millions more of them.

I gave up trying to read your intent, because you are so inconsistent in your comments (and then have the nerve to say people who accurately quote you are "liars").  I, along with others who correspond with you, have been forced to assume your intent is never good.   :shrug:
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2021, 10:06:35 pm »
I gave up trying to read your intent, because you are so inconsistent in your comments (and then have the nerve to say people who accurately quote you are "liars").  I, along with others who correspond with you, have been forced to assume your intent is never good.   :shrug:

It has still been unexplained to me what I have posted that constitutes a "lie".   I have occasionally made factual errors,  which I will gladly acknowledge/correct when pointed out.  But differences of opinion are not "lies".   Neither is my refusal to board the Trump train that his reelection was "stolen".   
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2021, 10:24:29 pm »
It has still been unexplained to me what I have posted that constitutes a "lie".   

Another lie.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2021, 11:32:37 pm »
This is the price of letting the Q-bert from GA stay. Now I better understand why the Rats are making a big deal out of it.

It won't work at either end. The Rats will keep screaming and the Normals are not going to give up on Cheney.

Hopefully the people of Wyoming can remember what that broad did when the primaries of 2022 come around.

I would be surprised if they did.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2021, 11:34:50 pm »
See, that's where she fails. She represents the people of Wyoming, not "our Conference."

She's supposed to represent the people who voted for her, not the Rodents infecting her state.  Her job should be the eradication of Rodents not only in Wyoming, but nation-wide and globally.

Americans don't vote Democrat, after all.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2021, 11:36:47 pm »
The good guys are fighting back.   Trump betrayed his own supporters.

By....protesting the election that was stolen from his supporters?

By...promoting American values?

By...being amusing?

He certainly did not betray me, an American.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2021, 11:38:50 pm »
Just so's you know... The good and decent people of Wyoming are spitting mad at Liz Cheney, and there is a recall under way.


Really?

Under what Constitutional process can a sitting Congress-creature be recalled after the election?   This is very interesting and I would like to know more about it.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2021, 11:41:15 pm »
Trump sparked a revolution and squandered it.   He entered the Presidency with the wind at his back, and Republicans in control of Congress.  Many of his policies were well liked and made substantial progress in rolling back the leviathan state.   But his despicable personality and refusal to act even remotely like a President made the suburbs too embarrassed to vote for him.   In the end,  he cost the GOP the House, the Senate and the Presidency,  and the Dems' exploitation of the last few months' chaos has led to Trump's supporters being slandered as hate-mongers and worse,  and exposed to the full brunt of cancel culture.

And yet folks still bend over and grab their ankles for him.   For what?   He had it all, and lost it all.   If I were you, I'd know exactly where to focus my anger.    And it would not be at Liz Cheney.

Yup.

Trump had the GOP leadership at his back.   Julius Caesar faced a similar situation.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2021, 11:43:52 pm »
Popular among who?   Among Dems who are licking their chops to keep him in the news by means of a political show trial?   Among media moguls and late night comedians looking for ratings?   

Certainly not among conservatives who recognize that the man's idiocy has squandered everything he supposedly fought for.

Popular among the Ameircans.

Naturally the Rodents and RINOs will continue to hate him, because he's still threatening their gravy trains.

But real Americans still like him.  He's a symbol of what we need to achieve to overthrow the crippling yoke of the socialists and regain our freedom.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2021, 11:51:24 pm »
Oh,  I know.   The Party of Trump has little use for those of us whose political walk was with Ronald Reagan.   Soon I'll be dead and gone.   But at least I'll be able to say I wasn't fooled.

Don't know who you walked with, but MY support of Reagan hasn't dimmed and Trump is the best president the US has had since Reagan, and better than ANY other president between Reagan and Lincoln.

He is a REAL American, after all.

Reagan won the Cold War.  He fixed the Rodent obsession with destroying the economy to steal votes.  Reagan stupidly trusted the Rodents and signed Drunken Teddy's Chain Migration bill and gave amnesty to invaders.

Trump confronted China, rejected the Invasion, told Europe to pay their damn bills, made the US energy independent, began to bring manufacturing back to the US, grew the economy at a fantastic rate, and, most importantly of all, went head-to-head with the Rodents and their Fake Nooze propaganda networks.

Outside of pissing off both Rodent and RINO, two despicable groups of traitors, what more could Trump do to show th American people the threat the Rodent/RINO coalition presented to their liberty and their livelihoods?
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2021, 11:58:43 pm »
You are intent on finding personal offense when none is intended.   There were plenty of low- information Biden voters too,  who couldn't be bothered to vote down ballot.   The problem is that there were millions more of them.


There are only two kinds of Rodent voters, morons and traitors/grifters.

Most of them are moron parasites on the left side of the intelligence bell curve.

MOST of the support for Cheney came from people who were voting party line and not necessarily paying attention to the Bush-ite in their midst. 

Maybe they'll wake up and start paying attention to their only Congress-Creature.   It's not too late, though the state has a woeful tendency to go RINO.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2021, 12:16:05 am »
She's supposed to represent the people who voted for her, not the Rodents infecting her state.  Her job should be the eradication of Rodents not only in Wyoming, but nation-wide and globally.

Americans don't vote Democrat, after all.

Her statement about the Conference proved she's not respecting anybody from Wyoming at all, Pubbies nor Rats.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2021, 12:17:30 am »

Really?

Under what Constitutional process can a sitting Congress-creature be recalled after the election?   This is very interesting and I would like to know more about it.

I don't think a recall is possible either.
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2021, 12:19:15 am »
Don't know who you walked with, but MY support of Reagan hasn't dimmed and Trump is the best president the US has had since Reagan, and better than ANY other president between Reagan and Lincoln.

He is a REAL American, after all.

Reagan won the Cold War.  He fixed the Rodent obsession with destroying the economy to steal votes.  Reagan stupidly trusted the Rodents and signed Drunken Teddy's Chain Migration bill and gave amnesty to invaders.

Trump confronted China, rejected the Invasion, told Europe to pay their damn bills, made the US energy independent, began to bring manufacturing back to the US, grew the economy at a fantastic rate, and, most importantly of all, went head-to-head with the Rodents and their Fake Nooze propaganda networks.

Outside of pissing off both Rodent and RINO, two despicable groups of traitors, what more could Trump do to show th American people the threat the Rodent/RINO coalition presented to their liberty and their livelihoods?

Reagan successfully handed off his administration to President Bush,  who completed what Reagan started by shepherding the downfall of the Evil Empire.

Trump through through his own character flaws and outrageous refusal to credit the verdict of the voters lost the House, Presidency and finally the Senate, and placed a scarlet T on the backs of millions who supported him in good faith. 

I am angry at Trump for committing political suicide through unforced error.   We have lost so g-ddamn much because of this man.  It didn't have to be this way.   Sure wish in hindsight that more than just a few of us had been able to see the Emperor's nakedness.     
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Re: Report: Kevin McCarthy Will Back Liz Cheney Remaining in GOP Leadership
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2021, 12:34:45 am »

Really?

Under what Constitutional process can a sitting Congress-creature be recalled after the election?   This is very interesting and I would like to know more about it.

I'm a Montanan. Dunno nothing much about Wyoming law. Don't know much more than what skidded across my phone a couple days ago... Evidently there is a petition for recall, so that is a citizen action. Beyond that my friends down that way, ranchers I punched for back in the day down in the Tetons say the folks are pissed... i txt'd in passing about the recall thing.

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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2021, 02:09:36 am »
I'm a Montanan. Dunno nothing much about Wyoming law. Don't know much more than what skidded across my phone a couple days ago... Evidently there is a petition for recall, so that is a citizen action. Beyond that my friends down that way, ranchers I punched for back in the day down in the Tetons say the folks are pissed... i txt'd in passing about the recall thing.

States cannot even enact Term Limits on Federal office holders, as proven by Tom Foley in 1994 (I believe).  The Speaker of the US House of Representatives sued Washington state because they passed Term Limits, and he won the lawsuit.  He proceeded to lose the seat the next election.

A recall would be out of the question.   :shrug:
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2021, 02:20:43 am »
A recall would be out of the question.   :shrug:

I don't know that - I think that depends on the state. I do know that before they messed it up, a state had a perfect right to recall a senator... so the precedent is there. And if there is no means, not even for cause, then that is another thing that needs fixed.

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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2021, 02:26:50 am »
A recall would be out of the question.   :shrug:

Turns out you are right - and I stand corrected (I was wrong for all y'all that say I never admit it)... Turns out Congress/Senator can be impeached but only by themselves.

Still I DID see a recall petition was being circulated for Cheney.

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« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2021, 02:41:19 am »
Turns out you are right - and I stand corrected (I was wrong for all y'all that say I never admit it)... Turns out Congress/Senator can be impeached but only by themselves.

Still I DID see a recall petition was being circulated for Cheney.

Oh, I don't doubt that at all, about Recall Cheney petitions.  The people can recall them, but compliance of the recalled is not mandatory.  I remember this from the Recall McCain effort 20 years ago.  He promised to resign if recalled.  Didn't matter because 9/11 happened during the petition phase and it was shut down.  Patriotic, you understand....
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« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2021, 02:46:02 am »
Oh, I don't doubt that at all, about Recall Cheney petitions.  The people can recall them, but compliance of the recalled is not mandatory.  I remember this from the Recall McCain effort 20 years ago.  He promised to resign if recalled.  Didn't matter because 9/11 happened during the petition phase and it was shut down.  Patriotic, you understand....

Yeah... and I voted for Boosh for the war and only for the war... which I regret immensely... So I do understand.