Covid-19 now kills more than 1 American every minute. And the rate keeps accelerating as the death t

[libertybele]

Covid-19 now kills more than 1 American every minute. And the rate keeps accelerating as the death toll tops 300,000

Every day, the number of families mourning the death of a loved one to Covid-19 keeps growing at a devastating rate.
More than 300,000 people in the US have died from coronavirus since the first known death on February 6. That's an average of more than 961 deaths a day.
But this holiday season has been especially brutal, with more than 50,000 deaths in just the past month, according to Johns Hopkins University.
In the past week, an average of 2,403 people in the US have died from Covid-19 every day.

That's an average of one Covid-19 death every 40 seconds. ........

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/14/health/us-covid-deaths-300k/index.html

[Wingnut]

In the United States, 2.6 million die each year.  That is 7123 each day, 297 each hour, and 5 each minute.


So who gives a shit about Covid?

[rustynail]

What is 'more than one'?  What is the rate of acceleration?  Can there be Too Much information?

[GtHawk]

Sorry, I have yet to hear a Covid death stat that isn't/hasn't been inflated by calling any death where the party tests positive for Covid a Covid death no matter what the cause be it a motorcycle accident, heart attack or even just a plain wore out body of a 80+ or 90+year old. Is Covid serious? Yes, do people die from it? Yes but primarily it appears to be the elderly or at risk segment of the population. My mother is 89 and the only time she wears a mask is when they won't allow her in the medical offices without one, now I freely admit that she is tired, tired of the daily pain and is ready to go when God calls her but is also a devout Catholic and would never take any conscious action that would end her life. I only wear a mask when I absolutely have to and am considered a high risk individual. I find it ridiculous when I see people walking outside alone and wearing a mask or driving alone in their car wearing a mask.

We're Americans dad-gummit and con sarnit, we don't run from diseases, we kick their butts!

[Knox27]

In the United States, 2.6 million die each year.  That is 7123 each day, 297 each hour, and 5 each minute.


So who gives a shit about Covid?

The people who have family members die of it.  The people who get inferior treatment because hospital icu beds and supplies are strained.  The people who have to put off elective procedures.  They probably give a shit.

[skeeter]

In the United States, 2.6 million die each year.  That is 7123 each day, 297 each hour, and 5 each minute.


So who gives a shit about Covid?

The good news is nobody has died of the flu this year.

[Axeslinger]

The people who have family members die of it.  The people who get inferior treatment because hospital icu beds and supplies are strained.  The people who have to put off elective procedures.  They probably give a shit.

We’re on pace to have fewer deaths than any time since 2015.  Sounds like Covid is a net positive.

Here’s a hint @Knox27 , none of us are getting out of this party alive. We’re all gonna die of something.

If you want people under the age of 70, who have a survival rate of 99.9995%, to huddle in ridiculous fear over this, you’re either a fool or a totalitarian wannabe.

Protect the vulnerable....everyone else LIVE!

[Knox27]

We’re on pace to have fewer deaths than any time since 2015.  Sounds like Covid is a net positive.

Here’s a hint @Knox27 , none of us are getting out of this party alive. We’re all gonna die of something.

If you want people under the age of 70, who have a survival rate of 99.995%, to huddle in ridiculous fear over this, you’re either a fool or a totalitarian wannabe.

Protect the vulnerable....everyone else LIVE!

Your information about 2015 is wrong, I don't know your source but in late October the CDC said "an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19"

And that's before the current wave of 3000 deaths a day....far above any flu season.

Ita burying your head on the sand to say the virus hasn't lead to a ton of excess deaths, not tension to strain on the hospital systems

This is not to ay what the response should or shouldn't be.  But a lot of people care and are effected

[Axeslinger]

Your information about 2015 is wrong, I don't know your source but in late October the CDC said "an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19"

And that's before the current wave of 3000 deaths a day....far above any flu season.

Ita burying your head on the sand to say the virus hasn't lead to a ton of excess deaths, not tension to strain on the hospital systems

This is not to ay what the response should or shouldn't be.  But a lot of people care and are effected

@Knox27
You're damn right they are.   330MILLION people are currently affected, who have had their lives upended, some destroyed, etc.
For a disease that 5% of the population HAS CAUGHT (that we know of), is only 5% lethal for those over 70 who have caught it and 0.5% lethal for those under 70 who have caught it.

[thackney]

We’re on pace to have fewer deaths than any time since 2015.  Sounds like Covid is a net positive.

False.  Total deaths are up this year.



See chart above from:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

[Hoodat]

Five American businesses close their doors permanently every hour because of draconian government responses to Covid.

[Wingnut]

The people who have family members die of it.  The people who get inferior treatment because hospital icu beds and supplies are strained.  The people who have to put off elective procedures.  They probably give a shit.

Every 100 years or so we need an event to decrease the surplus population.   Culling the herd makes the species stronger. So covid is a good thing.

[SZonian]

I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of these claimed as "covid" are not...this is but one article that suggests hospitals get a lot of $$ for claiming covid vs. other causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hospitals-medicare-patients-cost-coronavirus

[Fishrrman]

Re thackney's post 9 above:

I went to the source URL and looked at the graphic posted.

The "first wave" of what might be Covid-related deaths hit its peak around April 18.
Then there was a "second wave", peaking about August 1.
Then came a "third wave", peaking around November 14.

I reckon there's going to be one more "peak" before the vaccinations begin to have an effect.
IF they are to have an effect...

[catfish1957]

I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of these claimed as "covid" are not...this is but one article that suggests hospitals get a lot of $$ for claiming covid vs. other causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hospitals-medicare-patients-cost-coronavirus

COVID-19 is also an opportunist type of disease, that mostly impacts the very elderly, very ill..... IMO its biggest impact may be to those who may be dying just a tad earlier than expected.  It will be interesting to see the year end mortality data to really see what the true effect was on our population.

[libertybele]

Your information about 2015 is wrong, I don't know your source but in late October the CDC said "an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19"

And that's before the current wave of 3000 deaths a day....far above any flu season.

Ita burying your head on the sand to say the virus hasn't lead to a ton of excess deaths, not tension to strain on the hospital systems

This is not to ay what the response should or shouldn't be.  But a lot of people care and are effected

Do you have a link (links) to the information you posted??

[Wingnut]

COVID-19 is also an opportunist type of disease, that mostly impacts the very elderly, very ill..... IMO its biggest impact may be to those who may be dying just a tad earlier than expected.  It will be interesting to see the year end mortality data to really see what the true effect was on our population.

We need to see if the SS fund is extended by a few years do to the Rona.  Just say'n.  There is always a silver lining in every thing (except with the Biden win ).

[libertybele]

COVID-19 is also an opportunist type of disease, that mostly impacts the very elderly, very ill..... IMO its biggest impact may be to those who may be dying just a tad earlier than expected.  It will be interesting to see the year end mortality data to really see what the true effect was on our population.

COVID-19 was inflicted upon this country to control the populace with shutdowns, etc., and to tank the economy and to control an election.

Because of Biden's and Fauci's financial ties to China you will never convince me otherwise.

(Glenn Beck did several segments on the research that he and his team did showing the Bidens connection which I had posted a couple of times awhile back).

[libertybele]

We need to see if the SS fund is extended by a few years do to the Rona.  Just say'n.  There is always a silver lining in every thing (except with the Biden win ).

COVID will be an excuse to cut SS payouts .... they will claim because of the stimulus payouts they had to dip into SS.  There's no silver lining to all of this.  None.  This was plotted long ago to take down our Republic and they're not done by any means.

[Hoodat]

We need to see if the SS fund is extended by a few years do to the Rona.  Just say'n.

What SS fund?

[Wingnut]

What SS fund?

algores lock boxed one. Com'n man!

[txradioguy]

And yet the Death rate for the country as of November is below the total amount of deaths in 2019.

[Smokin Joe]

COVID-19 was inflicted upon this country to control the populace with shutdowns, etc., and to tank the economy and to control an election.

Because of Biden's and Fauci's financial ties to China you will never convince me otherwise.

(Glenn Beck did several segments on the research that he and his team did showing the Bidens connection which I had posted a couple of times awhile back).

That is pretty much the conclusion I have come to also, that, and Fauci is in this up to his eyebrows.

[jafo2010]

One more unexplained failure of Trump, Keeping Fauci around after he claimed the virus was nothing to worry about, and masks were not needed.  Fauci on a good day is a rat, and he is up to his eyeballs with the ChiComs on this bullsh*t.  Remember him explaining his many conversations with the ChiCom scientists, and how he had every reason to trust them?  Trustworthy like him no doubt!

Somewhere awhile back, it was indicated that only about 14,000 people had died because of Covid.  That number now would be around 20, - 25,000.

There is but one reason why everyone is dying of COVID.  For each person in the hospital that dies, they get something near $14,000 as a diagnosis code on a claim.  If a respirator is used and they die, they get to collect $39,000 per patient from the federal government.  In business, this is considered a huge windfall.  Government is the never ending giver to those with their hands out.  Healthcare has a way of doing it in BILLION DOLLAR INCREMENTS.  And of course, we are tossing TRILLIONS about like it is pocket change, and state and local governments along with the military industrial complex all have their hands out big time!!!  But hey, those little people, who have struggled with their jobs destroyed by corrupt governments, they best not hold their breath for another $1,200 for a month of survival.

You just can't make this sh*t up!!!!

[mountaineer]

More Covid-related deaths.

Man reportedly obsessed with COVID-19 kills two relatives in stabbing spree
By Yaron Steinbuch
December 16, 2020 | 7:41am

A Wisconsin man has been ordered to spend the rest of his life in a mental health institution for stabbing four of his family members — two fatally — during a rage-filled outburst linked to his obsessive worries about the COVID-19 pandemic, according to a report.

Adam Roth, 36, of Waukesha, recently pleaded guilty but not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect to two counts of intentional homicide and two counts of attempted intentional homicide, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported. ...

She has said Roth had been “acting obsessive” over the coronavirus for several weeks leading up to the incident, according to the complaint.

When interviewed after the stabbing, Roth told a detective that “it (the coronavirus) was coming and I had to save them.”

Two doctors who evaluated Roth’s mental health indicated that he had been experiencing “a … precipitous decline of psychiatric stability” in the months leading up to his attack.

Full story at NY Post

[skeeter]

More Covid-related deaths.Full story at NY Post

This 'pandemic' is poison to this society, and not in the way we've been led to believe.

[Gefn]

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[Knox27]

Do you have a link (links) to the information you posted??

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

[Smokin Joe]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm

Let's toss in some contributing factors.

If you had a heart attack on the streets in NYC and coded,you were under orders as EMS to not resuscitate the victim. I doubt the number of people who died thus is readily available, and I'm not sure how many other jurisdictions followed the same practice. Under ordinary circumstances, with a prompt response time, the victim would have been resuscitated if possible, and that increases chances of survival significantly.

How many people have not been diagnosed with other conditions which proved lethal because of online or over the phone doctoring during the pandemic.

How many who lost their insurance with their jobs during lockdowns went without vital medication?

How many others did not seek medical care for conditions that proved to be lethal or which advanced while they did not get that medical care to the point of mortality, especially but not limited to cancer, diabetes, and heart conditions?

For non-covid patients, medical care has degenerated immeasurably, partly because with job loss people lost insurance, partly because of the emphasis on COVID to the detriment of other diseases, and partly from patients catching the disease in clinical situations. (I know of two people who were in hospital for other reasons who contracted COVID in the clinical setting, one of whom died from "COVID", although their other comorbidities would have been sufficient to kill them). 

So while COVID has indeed been the cause (or at least is blamed) for a large number of deaths, the response to and behaviour accorded by the pandemic has had a deleterious effect on other areas of medical care and emergency response, and as such, there are more deaths. Note also, de-funding police has had an apparent effect on homicides in jurisdictions which have been notably soft on crime, not the least of which includes months of "peaceful" and destructive violent "protest" (and looting).

The other sad aspect of all this, the worst, aside perhaps from people generally being stressed to their individual breaking points and dealing with the degradation of health that goes with it, is the number of people who have been broken, spiritually, who see no light at the end of their particular tunnel, who give in to the temptation to quit life, after having seen all they own go down the tubes, the business they built over years, lifetimes destroyed by edicts from people who still get their paycheck while telling us "We are all in this together"; who don't worry about paying the bills, eating, and keeping their lights on because the rest of us are paying for that, and who conspicuously ignore the very edicts which destroyed those businesses, marriages, and lives.

I'm real glad the number jugglers at the CDC are having a good time playing with their data. Someone ought to be having some fun, after all. 

As for the people who have perpetrated this on the American People, I only pray that Almighty God rewards them as they so richly deserve.

[roamer_1]

There's liars, damn liars, and statistics. 

[Smokin Joe]

There's liars, damn liars, and statistics. 

A surge in deaths need not be from COVID itself, and I'd say it is likely at least half of that surge is due to COVID policy, not the disease.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I think now we know where the seasonal flu went  ..... 

[roamer_1]

A surge in deaths need not be from COVID itself, and I'd say it is likely at least half of that surge is due to COVID policy, not the disease.

  Even if it were all true, every bit of it, it is already proven they can't do a damn thing about it anyhow.

[roamer_1]

I think now we know where the seasonal flu went  ..... 

Ain't it amazing? Folks will swallow just about anything.

Look, you get beers -> 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Ain't it amazing? Folks will swallow just about anything.

Look, you get beers -> 

 

[Smokin Joe]

I think now we know where the seasonal flu went  ..... 

Recalling the rhyme, mebbe it flu out..

There was a little girl, and she had a little bird,
And she called it by the pretty name of Enza;
But one day it flew away, but it didn't go to stay,
For when she raised the window, in-flu-Enza.

(1918 nursery rhyme)

[mountaineer]

‘White people dying will LEVEL the playing field’: Thread of CDC experts gives a TERRIFYING peek into government-run healthcare
Posted at 9:08 am on December 18, 2020 by Sam J.

The CDC at work. Imagine being so comfortable talking about old white people dying that you say these things in an interview with The New York Times.  ...

Jason Compson  @JCompson_III
Wow. In the @nytimes, a doctor explains why the CDC chose to de-emphasize the elderly, even though doing so would've saved lives:
"Older populations are whiter...Instead of giving add'l health benefits to those who already had them, we can start to level the playing field a bit"
1:06 AM · Dec 18, 2020

... Oh, it gets worse:

Jason Compson   @JCompson_III
Later in the piece another doctor, named Marc Lipsitch, explains that teachers should not be considered essential workers for the purpose of being given priority vaccines by the CDC because, and I quote, "they are often very white."
1:09 AM · Dec 18, 2020

  ...

Sam J. article at Twitchy
Relevant tweets at:

https://twitter.com/JCompson_III/status/1339814373121011712  in which Compson says:

So to sum up, in this single article by @JanHoffmanNYT, three experts--Schdmit, Lipsitch, and Gould-- say that more white people dying will "level the playing field", teachers are "too white" to deserve a vaccine, but that their "Black and Brown" students make them deserving.

[skeeter]

... Oh, it gets worse:  ...


Sam J. article at Twitchy
Relevant tweets at:

https://twitter.com/JCompson_III/status/1339814373121011712  in which Compson says:

Given the attitudes of leftists in charge and shifting demographics this was bound to happen. One day some bureaucratic whiz kid will decide we can balance the budget by cutting old white folks' Medicare & SSI entirely.

[Gefn]

Recalling the rhyme, mebbe it flu out..

(1918 nursery rhyme)

@Smokin Joe

Ring around the Rosie also has an interesting history from the Black Plague. Kinda kool, really

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Ring around the Rosie also has an interesting history from the Black Plague. Kinda kool, really

Yes, it is. Schoolgirls jumping rope to a description of lesions (whether they knew it or not) harkens back to a tougher age...

[dfwgator]

I'm of the opinion that the vast majority of these claimed as "covid" are not...this is but one article that suggests hospitals get a lot of $$ for claiming covid vs. other causes.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/hospitals-medicare-patients-cost-coronavirus

If you want more of something,  subsidize it.

[mountaineer]

Chad Felix Greene @chadfelixg
Imagine all healthcare decisions being made through a filter of who 'deserves' it based on a complex algorithm of social and historical justice.
9:53 AM · Dec 18, 2020

[mystery-ak]

Mike works pt as a Security Guard in the ER at our local hospital..he had the vaccine this morning...

[mountaineer]

From the NYT article I referenced above:


Be gone, whiteys!

[Smokin Joe]

From the NYT article I referenced above:


Be gone, whiteys!

Well, who saw that coming? (Nothing I didn't expect).

[Hoodat]

If you want more of something,  subsidize it.

And if you want less of something, tax it.  Start taxing people who test positive for SARS-2, and you will see cases fall to zero.

[Hoodat]

From the NYT article I referenced above:

Isn't the person at Pfizer who led the development of the covid vaccine old and white?

[libertybele]

Mike works pt as a Security Guard in the ER at our local hospital..he had the vaccine this morning...

Hoping that he will be fine.  Was he required to get the vaccine?

[Wingnut]

If you want more of something,  subsidize it.

And if you want less of something, tax it.  Start taxing people who test positive for SARS-2, and you will see cases fall to zero.

Like the old axiom:
“Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”

[Cyber Liberty]