Stacey Abrams: ‘More Than 600,000’ Georgians Already Requested Mail Ballots for Runoff Election

[skeeter]

Sure and you're right... But there are no piles of indictments getting served... no court challenges that are rising to challenge (at least not in the kind of numbers y'all believe...)

The only challenge left that could possibly bear fruit of that magnitude is the supposed seizure of Dominion servers over in Germany - And I don't even know if that's even true!

I am actually ON YOUR SIDE wrt this I WANT corruption exposed. But there has to be evidence. Not just hopped up internet blathering. Show me something that rises above the level of gossip.

A couple of very minor points.

The fact you yourself recognize it as corruption means you actually believe it is something more than 'hopped up internet blathering'.

Demanding we show you something tangible is silly and is unnecessarily provocative; none of us are involved in gathering evidence. We're also waiting to hear something admissible on court as well, just like you.

[roamer_1]

A couple of very minor points.

The fact you yourself recognize it as corruption means you actually believe it is something more than 'hopped up internet blathering'.

No, it's blathering. I DO believe that the election system is corrupt. And I believe it has been corrupt all the way along. As long as I have been aware of it. But that and a bucket of water will get you wet.

People here are spouting actual numbers now... 2.7m votes switched... w/o a whit of proof.
Some dork makes a youtube vid about how easy it is to break into voting machines, and everybody gets sucked right in... Every dumass meme card is shooting around the internet like sh*t through a goose. C'mon man.

You gotta know most of it is bullsh*t. Enough that I will happily call it ALL bullsh*t till there's some actual proof. IF there's proof, then hurray! But till there's proof, it's all sour grapes and hissy fits, and likely to stay that way.

Sorry. I know that's not the nicest tone.

Demanding we show you something tangible is silly and is unnecessarily provocative; none of us are involved in gathering evidence. We're also waiting to hear something admissible on court as well, just like you.

No, what is unnecessarily provocative is nurturing gossip. Waggin tongues piss me off. The stuff that's bandied around on here like it's God's own truth is an astonishment. Proof? Fine! I want to hear proof. But how the hell I'd even hear it over the cacophony of nonsense, I dunno.

Give me something with teeth and I will happily back the play. So far, that ain't coming. And the clock is running down.

[skeeter]

No, it's blathering. I DO believe that the election system is corrupt. And I believe it has been corrupt all the way along. As long as I have been aware of it. But that and a bucket of water will get you wet.

People here are spouting actual numbers now... 2.7m votes switched... w/o a whit of proof.
Some dork makes a youtube vid about how easy it is to break into voting machines, and everybody gets sucked right in... Every dumass meme card is shooting around the internet like sh*t through a goose. C'mon man.

You gotta know most of it is bullsh*t. Enough that I will happily call it ALL bullsh*t till there's some actual proof. IF there's proof, then hurray! But till there's proof, it's all sour grapes and hissy fits, and likely to stay that way.

Sorry. I know that's not the nicest tone.

No, what is unnecessarily provocative is nurturing gossip. Waggin tongues piss me off. The stuff that's bandied around on here like it's God's own truth is an astonishment. Proof? Fine! I want to hear proof. But how the hell I'd even hear it over the cacophony of nonsense, I dunno.

Give me something with teeth and I will happily back the play. So far, that ain't coming. And the clock is running down.

Well, speculating based upon available info, in the absence of hard facts, is what people do on internet forums and shouldn't piss off anyone who chooses to hang out on one.

[roamer_1]

Well, speculating based upon available info, in the absence of hard facts, is what people do on internet forums and shouldn't piss off anyone who chooses to hang out on one.

I reckon that's right, and that's all it is, and all it will ever be... What happened to Dan Rather back in those heady years of actual internet sleuthing ain't even possible in this day and age.

[skeeter]

I reckon that's right, and that's all it is, and all it will ever be... What happened to Dan Rather back in those heady years of actual internet sleuthing ain't even possible in this day and age.

Its still possible, but in the Dan Rather case a few years back there was still a scintilla of integrity in network news. Today no amount of evidence is sufficient for todays news media to call for a remedy, if doing so is destructive to their agenda.

In this particular case, and in spite of the mountain of circumstantial evidence, it may boil down to being impossible to ever settle the case of voter fraud in favor of Trump without the simple physical possession of the ballots, many of which are spoiled or probably long gone. I'm praying that is wrong, we'll see.

[Cyber Liberty]

I like the way Turley put it:  It's like trying to guess how many jellybeans are in a jar, except the guesser is not allowed to see the jar.

[Wingnut]

I like the way Turley put it:  It's like trying to guess how many jellybeans are in a jar, except the guesser is not allowed to see the jar.

Fat Stacey could eat the whole jar of beans. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Fat Stacey could eat the whole jar of beans.

Straight from the jar.

[Hoodat]

Not very long ago, you were certain the difference would be made apparent by a simple recount, because of the 100s of thousands of votes that were switched electronically (which would not effect the physical ballots). Now your recount must be going the wrong way... because those 100s of thousands of electronically switched votes are not materializing... 

That is because I wrongly assumed that pre-Dominion scans were going to be counted and not post-Dominion scans.  The vehicle for catching Dominion fraud is being bypassed.  I have no idea how the count is going.

Edit:  On second thought, I'm not sure any more.  Boxes of ballots with counts already included were given to counters to confirm.  The mail-in ballots were easy to decipher.  But the machine ballots were not.  It was explained to me today that the recount would not catch Dominion errors.  But I am not certain how.

@roamer_1 , we'll have to wait and see.  But it is clear that by design this recount process is set up to yield the same result as they did election night (+ the next 11 days)

[skeeter]

Fat Stacey could eat the whole jar of beans.

Without unclenching her teeth.

[Wingnut]

Without unclenching her teeth.

If I was Mongo I'd knock that horses ass out. 

[roamer_1]

That is because I wrongly assumed that pre-Dominion scans were going to be counted and not post-Dominion scans.  The vehicle for catching Dominion fraud is being bypassed.  I have no idea how the count is going.

Edit:  On second thought, I'm not sure any more.  Boxes of ballots with counts already included were given to counters to confirm.  The mail-in ballots were easy to decipher.  But the machine ballots were not.  It was explained to me today that the recount would not catch Dominion errors.  But I am not certain how.

@roamer_1 , we'll have to wait and see.  But it is clear that by design this recount process is set up to yield the same result as they did election night (+ the next 11 days)

But post Dominion is what was posted on every news station and tabulating site. How are they getting around that when the ballot count is bound to be a hundred thousand shy? That can't play.

[Hoodat]

But post Dominion is what was posted on every news station and tabulating site. How are they getting around that when the ballot count is bound to be a hundred thousand shy? That can't play.

Again, I am not sure any more.  It makes no sense that Fulton county already had their recount completed Monday morning at 8 am.  Unless they simply reread the ballots into the same machines.

I was in Cobb Co.  Discrepancies in ballot counts were not being logged as long as the discrepancy was considered minor.  Counters were hand-counting ballots and then matching that number against a target number they were already provided.  A Republican Party official lied to my face about vote totals from last week.  And there was no audit.  At all.

Everyone there like me was in agreement that the process or show that we were watching would not by design uncover any discrepancies in results.  Both the governor and secretary of state have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar.  And the only way for them to gain any cover is for the recount to match the initial tab.

I hope I am wrong about this.  I really wanted a hand count to be a separate independent count from the machine voting count.  I would really like to know that the process can be trusted.  But from what I saw to day, that confirmation is questionable.

[roamer_1]

I hope I am wrong about this.  I really wanted a hand count to be a separate independent count from the machine voting count.  I would really like to know that the process can be trusted.  But from what I saw to day, that confirmation is questionable.

I start different than you. I assume the vote is corrupt. And I toy with the idea of electronic flipping... But that means the paper trail would inherently show proof - Unless there is something I ain't thinking of.

So if that ain't there (which it sounds like it ain't in any great amount), then you're down to good ol fashioned ballot stuffing. And they been doing that since Hector was a pup.

... And not getting caught. 

[Wingnut]

Can you beach a whale like fat Stacey.  Or just blow her fat fried chickin eating whale blubber ass up?


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[skeeter]

Can you beach a whale like fat Stacey.  Or just blow her fat fried chickin eating whale blubber ass up?


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I read what you wrote to the tune of ‘how do you solve a problem like maria’

[Wingnut]

I read what you wrote to the tune of ‘how do you solve a problem like maria’

...she is never late to a meal!

[catfish1957]

Is anyone in Georgia enacting a grass roots effort to get GOP volunteers to write down and catalog  out of state plates at voting locations?

We need to get into the trenches of electoral warfare.

[Hoodat]

Is anyone in Georgia enacting a grass roots effort to get GOP volunteers to write down and catalog  out of state plates at voting locations?

It certainly isn't going to come from the GOP.  They are still assuring people that it won't be possible for Dems to win these two Senate runoffs while at the same time turning a blind eye to every single violation or irregularity that is being reported.  There is no plan to enforce signature checks on mail-in ballots (as required by law) for the January election.

I pointed out to the GOP representative at a recount location that one of the official ballot counters had Biden-Harris stickers all over her SUV.  No response.  I also reported that those entering tally sheet totals into the vote-counting software were not double checking the numbers (i.e. one person would vocally call out the number while the other entered it instead of both sets of eyes confirming number and entry).  Again, no response.  Only an assurance that it was not possible for the Dems to win in January.

People like me don't have a political party in Georgia.

[catfish1957]

It certainly isn't going to come from the GOP.  They are still assuring people that it won't be possible for Dems to win these two Senate runoffs while at the same time turning a blind eye to every single violation or irregularity that is being reported.  There is no plan to enforce signature checks on mail-in ballots (as required by law) for the January election.

I pointed out to the GOP representative at a recount location that one of the official ballot counters had Biden-Harris stickers all over her SUV.  No response.  I also reported that those entering tally sheet totals into the vote-counting software were not double checking the numbers (i.e. one person would vocally call out the number while the other entered it instead of both sets of eyes confirming number and entry).  Again, no response.  Only an assurance that it was not possible for the Dems to win in January.

People like me don't have a political party in Georgia.

That's pretty disheartening.  Especially considering the national ramifications.

[Smokin Joe]

Not very long ago, you were certain the difference would be made apparent by a simple recount, because of the 100s of thousands of votes that were switched electronically (which would not effect the physical ballots). Now your recount must be going the wrong way... because those 100s of thousands of electronically switched votes are not materializing... 

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,420304.new.html#new

[roamer_1]

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,420304.new.html#new

 

Fine. Now prove it. That's the problem.

[Victoria33]

@Cyber Liberty
@roamer_1

Just heard 24 ballot fraud cases filed by Republicans, have failed; did not get past a judge. There was no info. on who actually filed these cases.

[libertybele]

Fine. Now prove it. That's the problem.

Exactly correct.  They have to have overwhelming evidence .... and so far the Trump team/lawyers are coming up short and unable to do so.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty
@roamer_1

Just heard 24 ballot fraud cases filed by Republicans, have failed; did not get past a judge. There was no info. on who actually filed these cases.

I'm shocked corrupt Judges would cover for corrupt politicians.