Schumer, Pelosi want $3.4T as 'starting point' in new COVID-19 relief talks

[mystery-ak]

Schumer, Pelosi want $3.4T as 'starting point' in new COVID-19 relief talks
By Alexander Bolton - 11/12/20 11:13 AM EST

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday morning said the $3.4 trillion Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency Solutions (HEROES) Act passed by House Democrats in May should be the “starting point” for negotiations with Senate Republicans and the White House on a new round of coronavirus relief legislation.

The Democratic leaders appeared to step back from their pre-election offer to White House negotiators to slim down the total size of the package to $2.2 trillion.

Even though Democrats lost seats in the House and face long odds of retaking the Senate majority, Schumer and Pelosi said President-elect Joe Biden’s victory is what counts.


“The HEROES Act should be the starting point, not an emaciated bill that prioritizes protections for corporations and considers the needs of American families as an afterthought,” Schumer told reporters at a joint press conference with Pelosi.

“The HEROES Act, passed in the House, does meet this moment. It doesn’t pick and choose who we’re going to help during the greatest health and economic crisis in decades,” he argued.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/525667-schumer-pelosi-want-34t-as-starting-point-in-new-coronavirus-relief-talks

[DB]

Gold will be $3,000 an oz. soon then and continue to climb... The stock market will soar - in terms of dollars - that are increasingly worthless...

[Smokin Joe]

   I really don't give a flying bleep what they want.

[christian]

Pelosi has been stone cold dry ice ice queen towards the needs of struggling and desperate Americas for many, many,  months.  Pelosi then postures how much she cares for Americas, while openly practicing by denying benefits to Americans how little she really cares.  The phony position that Republicans want to give the money to the rich, while the practice common of democrats is in reality the democrats fill the pockets of the rich, while posturing to care about those thy knife in the back, the working class.  Like even currently Pelosi has and is now doing.   Pelosi keeps assuming the working class is too stupid they can even understand how badly the democrats are their enemy.  Biden will quickly shift jobs and money back to China, like democrats were doing before Trump took office.

[Wingnut]

Nancy really is in no position to get anything she wants.  The socialist wing of the party hates her.  The moderate wing will side with the bills that will help them get reelected in 2 years.

BTW what is the House count now?  215 or so?    They lost 9 seats so far and have the thinnest of thin margins.

[Victoria33]

@Cyber Liberty

This plan the Dems have, gives everyone in the country $1,500 in order to stimulate the economy.  The Republican Senators would not put that in their plan in order to save money.  Trump said before the election, he would have a BIG plan to help after the election.  That sounded like he would put the $1,500 for everyone in his plan.

To my knowledge, he has not mentioned any plan since the election.  Does anyone have info. he is working on that?

[skeeter]

Nancy really is in no position to get anything she wants.  The socialist wing of the party hates her.  The moderate wing will side with the bills that will help them get reelected in 2 years.

BTW what is the House count now?  215 or so?    They lost 9 seats so far and have the thinnest of thin margins.

She's demanding everything for everyone. Everyone who's remotely down with her cause, that is. Socialists, Commies, rat centrists, the whole lot of em.

She doesn't give a rats arse what anyone else thinks or says.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

This plan the Dems have, gives everyone in the country $1,500 in order to stimulate the economy.  The Republican Senators would not put that in their plan in order to save money.  Trump said before the election, he would have a BIG plan to help after the election.  That sounded like he would put the $1,500 for everyone in his plan.

To my knowledge, he has not mentioned any plan since the election.  Does anyone have info. he is working on that?

@Victoria33

Let me get the premise of your post straight.  You consider a direct cash handout (that I, personally ever see) a "wonderful thing" and the sole indicator that President Trump and the GOP Senators "aren't doing anything?"

I love you desperately, but that's messed up.

[libertybele]

The best thing right now I think is for the GOP to fully concentrate their efforts on GA and keeping the Senate, helping Trump to victory and absolutely ignore the idiots across the aisle.

[rustynail]

Hey Joe where's my dough!

[DB]

@Victoria33

Let me get the premise of your post straight.  You consider a direct cash handout (that I, personally ever see) a "wonderful thing" and the sole indicator that President Trump and the GOP Senators "aren't doing anything?"

I love you desperately, but that's messed up.

$1500 for every man woman and child in the country is only $570 billion. They want $3.5 trillion... They want to bail out the cities they allowed to burn forcing everyone else to pay for what they did. Really f'd up.

[Cyber Liberty]

The best thing right now I think is for the GOP to fully concentrate their efforts on GA and keeping the Senate, helping Trump to victory and absolutely ignore the idiots across the aisle.

I'm hoping the recount/audit/recanvasing will include the down-ticket races.  It's possible at least Perdue would avoid a runoff.  2 or 3 birds with one stone.

[Fishrrman]

Just say, "NO".

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33
Let me get the premise of your post straight.  You consider a direct cash handout (that I, personally ever see) a "wonderful thing" and the sole indicator that President Trump and the GOP Senators "aren't doing anything?"
I love you desperately, but that's messed up.

No, the point is, giving everyone (who makes less than some big number), that much money is a huge amount of money - millions. That is more debt we would not have if they left that out - but they won't.  Just for effect, maybe they will make the amount more per person, to rub it in: "See Trump, we can spend what we want without you here."  When Trump said a BIG plan, it sounds like he put that money in there.

I do feel sorry for people who lost their jobs.  We have people in food lines - in the United States.  Cyber, tell me how to fix that.  What would you do to fix it if you were president?

[Cyber Liberty]

No, the point is, giving everyone (who makes less than some big number), that much money is a huge amount of money - millions. That is more debt we would not have if they left that out - but they won't.  Just for effect, maybe they will make the amount more per person, to rub it in: "See Trump, we can spend what we want without you here."  When Trump said a BIG plan, it sounds like he put that money in there.

I do feel sorry for people who lost their jobs.  We have people in food lines - in the United States.  Cyber, tell me how to fix that.  What would you do to fix it if you were president?

@Victoria33

#1:  Pass a law to prohibit states from forcing their citizens to do things like shutting down commerce, stop them from deeming people "unessential" if they are not in a favored industry, and quarantining healthy people.  And stop making people sicker by forcing the to wear the Badge of Submission, AKA "masks."

Throwing people out of work and replacing it with a nice gumment check is not the answer, even FDR knew that.  I had a feeling I read that incorrectly.  Apologies!  Mea Culpa!!

[Victoria33]

@Victoria33

#1:  Pass a law to prohibit states from forcing their citizens to do things like shutting down commerce, stop them from deeming people "unessential" if they are not in a favored industry, and quarantining healthy people.  And stop making people sicker by forcing the to wear the Badge of Submission, AKA "masks."  Throwing people out of work and replacing it with a nice gumment check is not the answer, even FDR knew that.  I had a feeling I read that incorrectly.  Apologies!  Mea Culpa!!

@Cyber Liberty

I can see I did not clearly make my point in that post; forgive me, should have been clearer.

You said, "Pass a law to prohibit states from forcing their citizens to do things like shutting down commerce, stop them from deeming people "unessential" if they are not in a favored industry, and quarantining healthy people."

I agree when you speak of deeming people's businesses "unessential".  So many small businesses had to shut their doors because they were not "essential".  Essential to whom?  They would not be in business in the first place if they had no customers.

I agree healthy people should continue to work, not be shut up in their home.  As for older people like me, enjoy staying home until there is a vaccine that works. 

You said: "And stop making people sicker by forcing the to wear the Badge of Submission, AKA 'masks.'"

As an EMT, I know medical "stuff" like how a person's body works.  Only God could make a body due to the body's intricate parts that have to work together in tiny "bits" for it to work.  Yes, I know "stuff" and "bits" are highly technical professional medical terms.

Does every person who wears a mask wear it correctly?  No.  But the ones who do wear it correctly, help keep the numbers down.  And, many type masks out there to buy are "almost" useless.  We still need the people who have proper masks and wear them correctly.  Don't throw them all out because some are useless and some wear the good ones incorrectly. 

I suppose the country will stay with high numbers and high deaths until a vaccine that works is available.  Today, Thursday, there were 150,000+ new cases.  One person with the virus is dying every minute.  Could we wear a mask to keep numbers down until we are vaccinated?  Don't make the virus political - it is a disease not a political party.

Thanks for talking today - you were my connection with the outside world today.

[Wingnut]

@Cyber Liberty



Thanks for talking today - you were my connection with the outside world today.

That is so sad.  You are so afraid of living you might as well be dead. If you are afraid to live your life, and you are already locked up and might as well be dead.  RIP Vickie.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Victoria33   Any time.  I figured you might have an issue on that last one...lol

What's really crushing the spirit of the country is all non-essential label.  I'd feel like crap if I was told every day that I'm a failure as a man because I can't provide for my family because I'm "worthless."

I would have never stopped working in my old job in Phoenix, old contacts tell me they didn't miss a day.  When I was there "social distancing" was completely unnecessary.  Air circulation is fantastic in a lab or fab environment (in the fab they wore bunny suits with spit masks and full facial covering with a shield), and the best part was I worked alone in a room, seeing maybe three people a day.

Now that I'm retired, I'm proud to be "non-essential" and a hermit.  The cage is gilded well up here in the Castle.  And I don't have to care if it's a "cage."

"Here's your Five Cents."   

[Cyber Liberty]

That is so sad.  You are so afraid of living you might as well be dead. If you are afraid to live your life, and you are already locked up and might as well be dead.  RIP Vickie.

Nonsense.  She's more active than I am at age 62, and that's because I'm lazy AF.  Pitiful that somebody 25 years older than I can run rings around me, I suppose....

[christian]

Many years ago i argued with liberals who threw a fit if money would be appropriated for Americans in poverty or any other reason, but note, when ten times that amount was to be spent on the rich or foreigners, they had no criticism whatsoever.  Pay attention,this scam playing is active with liberals to this very day.  It fools many that don't pay close enough attention.  Wild spending no problem at all, as long as itdoesn't go to working class Americans that are expected to pay for it. It's easy to catch them at it if you're paying attention.

[sneakypete]

Schumer, Pelosi want $3.4T as 'starting point' in new COVID-19 relief talks
By Alexander Bolton - 11/12/20 11:13 AM EST

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday morning said the $3.4 trillion Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency Solutions (HEROES) Act passed by House Democrats in May should be the “starting point” for negotiations with Senate Republicans and the White House on a new round of coronavirus relief legislation.

The Democratic leaders appeared to step back from their pre-election offer to White House negotiators to slim down the total size of the package to $2.2 trillion.

Even though Democrats lost seats in the House and face long odds of retaking the Senate majority, Schumer and Pelosi said President-elect Joe Biden’s victory is what counts.


“The HEROES Act should be the starting point, not an emaciated bill that prioritizes protections for corporations and considers the needs of American families as an afterthought,” Schumer told reporters at a joint press conference with Pelosi.

“The HEROES Act, passed in the House, does meet this moment. It doesn’t pick and choose who we’re going to help during the greatest health and economic crisis in decades,” he argued.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/525667-schumer-pelosi-want-34t-as-starting-point-in-new-coronavirus-relief-talks

@mystery-ak

Of course they want more. With multiple TRILLIONS being spend,skimming off several hundred millions for pet projects and "retirement" accounts would be like taking candy from a baby.

[catfish1957]

@mystery-ak

Of course they want more. With multiple TRILLIONS being spend,skimming off several hundred millions for pet projects and "retirement" accounts would be like taking candy from a baby.

By 2023, after adding 15M dim voters from illegal ranks, Democrat party will have all presidency and both houses of congress.
That will open the door wide open to possible IRA and 401K confiscation.  Secret democratic subcommittees ran the traps for this back in 2008, so the blueprint is set.  Once all confiscated, it will be added and combined with social security, for a one stop shop for all retirement disbursement.    As the woes grow, we will be seeing a lot of FDR type socialsim implemented, and we will be pretty much powerless to stop it.

[sneakypete]

By 2023, after adding 15M dim voters from illegal ranks, Democrat party will have all presidency and both houses of congress.

That will open the door wide open to possible IRA and 401K confiscation.  Secret democratic subcommittees ran the traps for this back in 2008, so the blueprint is set. 

@catfish1957

Yes,it is,but  off-shore accounts and congressional office budgets will NEVER be questioned. Or even mentioned.

Nor will how congresscritters and US Senators all manage to retire with multi-million dollars in investment accounts when all they have legally earned is their annual salaries.

Once all confiscated, it will be added and combined with social security, for a one stop shop for all retirement disbursement.    As the woes grow, we will be seeing a lot of FDR type socialsim implemented, and we will be pretty much powerless to stop it.

"Pretty much" as in "absolutely".