CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks

[Hoodat]

Even at the peak of the pandemic, New York recognized that 2/3 of infections came in the home... where no masks are worn, and the ability to regulate is next to none.

Just wait until they fit Alexa with a hidden camera.

[LegalAmerican]

Just wait until they fit Alexa with a hidden camera.

Already done. Same with your microwave, refrigerator, computer.  et al

[roamer_1]

Already done. Same with your microwave, refrigerator, computer.  et al

No.

[LegalAmerican]

No.

YES.  You need to have all, with computer chips and not the old ICE BOX....you have.  Alexa listens to your conversation, even when you think it is off.  2019.


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[roamer_1]

YES.  You need to have all, with computer chips and not the old ICE BOX....you have.  Alexa listens to your conversation, even when you think it is off.  2019.

No. I realize there are machines coming out that work with AI... IoT... But no. I take a ton of stuff apart all the time. I fix things for a living, and buy smalls to fix and sell... I have NEVER found a camera in a microwave or a fridge.

With the obvious exception of laptops, phones and tablets, I am in computers every day, and NO, there are not hidden cams or mikes in your computer.

And Alexa don't listen to a damn thing in my house. Because Alexa ain't around here. Cortana is shut off in every Win10 box, So the only AI in the house is Giggles Asisstant in my phone and tablet - And neither one of them work if the phone is <OFF> Nor do they work when the phone is asleep.

So stop with the dopey tinfoil nonsense.
CAN you buy that crap? Maybe so. but there are PLENTY (the lion's share) that don't have any of it.

And even if it DOES, clip the mike and cam. Fixed. Hang a cover over the camand a padded cover over the mike. Fixed sommore.

[DB]

No. I realize there are machines coming out that work with AI... IoT... But no. I take a ton of stuff apart all the time. I fix things for a living, and buy smalls to fix and sell... I have NEVER found a camera in a microwave or a fridge.

With the obvious exception of laptops, phones and tablets, I am in computers every day, and NO, there are not hidden cams or mikes in your computer.

And Alexa don't listen to a damn thing in my house. Because Alexa ain't around here. Cortana is shut off in every Win10 box, So the only AI in the house is Giggles Asisstant in my phone and tablet - And neither one of them work if the phone is <OFF> Nor do they work when the phone is asleep.

So stop with the dopey tinfoil nonsense.
CAN you buy that crap? Maybe so. but there are PLENTY (the lion's share) that don't have any of it.

And even if it DOES, clip the mike and cam. Fixed. Hang a cover over the camand a padded cover over the mike. Fixed sommore.

Some new refrigerators have cameras on the inside... So you can connect remotely and see what you need to restock... And yes, no Alexa, Cortana or Siri allowed in this house short of the cell phones.

The one item people have to be careful of is smart TVs. Some do have cameras so the user can make jesters to control it. Don't like that at all. I make sure the TVs I buy don't have that "feature". I also look for any possible camera locations on the ones I buy and have never found one.

[LegalAmerican]

Some new refrigerators have cameras on the inside... So you can connect remotely and see what you need to restock... And yes, no Alexa, Cortana or Siri allowed in this house short of the cell phones.

The one item people have to be careful of is smart TVs. Some do have cameras so the user can make jesters to control it. Don't like that at all. I make sure the TVs I buy don't have that "feature". I also look for any possible camera locations on the ones I buy and have never found one.

Black & white movie.  1984.  Scary. 

[Smokin Joe]

I must note that the vast majority of the disposable masks I have seen are made in....

China.

Hmmmm.

[jmyrlefuller]

IF masks worked at filtering a virus the is so contagious and so deadly, then why aren't the used masks considered a biohazard?  Where are all the biohazard disposal bins?

Putting biohazard bins everywhere and encouraging people to get within six feet of them by dumping their waste on top of everyone else's would itself be a biohazard, just like a toilet plume. You drop a flat mask into a container enclosed on all sides except the top, the droplets everyone else's masks collected (which can last for days in a dark, humid environment) get stirred up, and all that infected, droplet-filled air goes right up into your face.

PPE should, whenever possible, NOT be disposed of in public, but at home. Public biohazard bins would make the situation worse.

This is why you don't get your arguments from Facebook memes.

[DB]

Putting biohazard bins everywhere and encouraging people to get within six feet of them by dumping their waste on top of everyone else's would itself be a biohazard, just like a toilet plume. You drop a flat mask into a container enclosed on all sides except the top, the droplets everyone else's masks collected (which can last for days in a dark, humid environment) get stirred up, and all that infected, droplet-filled air goes right up into your face.

PPE should, whenever possible, NOT be disposed of in public, but at home. Public biohazard bins would make the situation worse.

This is why you don't get your arguments from Facebook memes.

I just love the people who get violent with people who aren't wearing a mask... In addition they often pull their own mask down to yell at the other person. If they really feared the virus and thought masks worked they would avoid people without a mask. They would stay well away in fear of catching it.

But they do the exact opposite. They get in their face and physically make contact with them either striking them or trying to drag them out of wherever they are. That should tell you a lot about the true nature of it all. They wouldn't do that if they really feared catching a deadly virus.

[RetBobbyMI]

Putting biohazard bins everywhere and encouraging people to get within six feet of them by dumping their waste on top of everyone else's would itself be a biohazard, just like a toilet plume. You drop a flat mask into a container enclosed on all sides except the top, the droplets everyone else's masks collected (which can last for days in a dark, humid environment) get stirred up, and all that infected, droplet-filled air goes right up into your face.

PPE should, whenever possible, NOT be disposed of in public, but at home. Public biohazard bins would make the situation worse.

This is why you don't get your arguments from Facebook memes.

Ballot drop boxes = biohazard ☣️ disposal boxes

[roamer_1]

Some new refrigerators have cameras on the inside... So you can connect remotely and see what you need to restock...

Right... As I said, SOME few AI/IoT ready... But by far and away, that is in the 'feature' realm, and adds expense, so the folks that DO buy it, WANT it. MOST appliances do not have such ridiculous complication. Your average refrigerator is nothing but.

And yes, no Alexa, Cortana or Siri allowed in this house short of the cell phones.

Right. I was very late to the smart phone game BECAUSE  I didn't want an open mike... Now I use Giggles Assistant, because it is easier for me than hauling out my glasses every thime to see the dang phone. That is my CHOICE. Giggles can be disabled with ease.

The one item people have to be careful of is smart TVs. Some do have cameras so the user can make jesters to control it. Don't like that at all. I make sure the TVs I buy don't have that "feature". I also look for any possible camera locations on the ones I buy and have never found one.

Right. I don't do smart, and I am aware that SOME do have cams and mikes - But again they aren't hidden. you know you are buying that and are probably buying that ON PURPOSE, because it costs more. Mine are all basically big-ass monitors serving a computer, so the smart in the one I do have (found free and fixed), the smart is disabled. And it has no cam or mike. There ARE such things as pinhole cams and mikes that are easy to miss if not looking for them, but that ain't easy to miss looking from the INSIDE. And I have been inside a ton of computers, TVs, microwaves and other appliances, and those things are not there.

It's hokey-tooter tinfoil-hattery nonsense.

[LegalAmerican]

Ballot drop boxes = biohazard ☣️ disposal boxes

I like that idea.  Put in my mask.  The same mask I wear under my chin for the last 4 months, so some LEFTS are "happy'. 
lol.

[mountaineer]

Senator Rand Paul @RandPaul
To the scolds blaming ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ infection on not wearing mask: the only published randomized clinical study of cloth masks shows 97% penetration of particles & higher infection rate than control.  But never mind, it’s all about submission...
A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers
2:26 PM · Oct 19, 2020·

[DB]

Senator Rand Paul @RandPaul
To the scolds blaming ⁦@realDonaldTrump⁩ infection on not wearing mask: the only published randomized clinical study of cloth masks shows 97% penetration of particles & higher infection rate than control.  But never mind, it’s all about submission...
A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers
2:26 PM · Oct 19, 2020·

Yep...

Actual science doesn't support the mask Nazis...

[Hoodat]

Some new refrigerators have cameras on the inside... So you can connect remotely and see what you need to restock...

A HA!  So the light DOES stay on when you close the door.

[roamer_1]

A HA!  So the light DOES stay on when you close the door.

How do you know even yet? the vid could be automatically digitally enhanced to SEEM like the light stays on...

[Hoodat]

Don't blow my high, Roamer.

[roamer_1]

Don't blow my high, Roamer.

 

[PeteS in CA]

My home computer has built-in camera and microphone. The latter can be turned off and a Post-It will take care of the former.

Our fridge's fanciest feature is LED light bars that make things easier to see than would a 15W "appliance" bulb. It is "computer chip" controlled, probably a microcontroller, which is a limited capability application specific microprocessor. No camera.

Every microwave we've owned since 1980 has had a "computer chip". Possibly excepting our first I'm sure all had/have microcontrollers (though the first might've had an 8031 or 8051). No camera.

Our TV is an "old" 740p plasma dumb TV that works too well to throw away. No camera, though I'm sure it has a microcontroller.

Pretty sure our washer and dryer are run by microcontrollers. If you have a modern pacemaker or hearing aids ...

[DB]

My home computer has built-in camera and microphone. The latter can be turned off and a Post-It will take care of the former.

Our fridge's fanciest feature is LED light bars that make things easier to see than would a 15W "appliance" bulb. It is "computer chip" controlled, probably a microcontroller, which is a limited capability application specific microprocessor. No camera.

Every microwave we've owned since 1980 has had a "computer chip". Possibly excepting our first I'm sure all had/have microcontrollers (though the first might've had an 8031 or 8051). No camera.

Our TV is an "old" 740p plasma dumb TV that works too well to throw away. No camera, though I'm sure it has a microcontroller.

Pretty sure our washer and dryer are run by microcontrollers. If you have a modern pacemaker or hearing aids ...

Microcontrollers have been in just about everything electronic with much complexity since the mid 80's I'd guess. As you suggest, no reason to fear them. The first microcontroller I wrote code for was an an 8748 (an 8048 with EEPROM built in) back in the mid 80's...

[LegalAmerican]

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[Wingnut]

A HA!  So the light DOES stay on when you close the door.

Age old question.

Tell a woman she’s beautiful a hundred times and she won’t believe you. Tell a woman she’s fat once and she will remember it for the rest of her life because elephants never forget.

If she would only stop opening the fridge door the light would be out and I wouldn't be divorced!

[Smokin Joe]

I just love the people who get violent with people who aren't wearing a mask... In addition they often pull their own mask down to yell at the other person. If they really feared the virus and thought masks worked they would avoid people without a mask. They would stay well away in fear of catching it.

But they do the exact opposite. They get in their face and physically make contact with them either striking them or trying to drag them out of wherever they are. That should tell you a lot about the true nature of it all. They wouldn't do that if they really feared catching a deadly virus.

That is because angry people do stupid things. Thought gets shunted aside by the Limbic brain, and the 'fight or flight' response takes over.  They already decided to fight.

[DB]

That is because angry people do stupid things. Thought gets shunted aside by the Limbic brain, and the 'fight or flight' response takes over.  They already decided to fight.

I agree with much of that. But the vast majority of these instances of violence the flight option was readily available. They chose violent contact with someone they claim was a mortal threat to them. Making physical contact with an infected person dramatically raises the risk of catching it. I have to believe the motivations involves well more than fear of a "deadly virus". That if offers a justified opportunity to put the beat down on someone they believe belongs to another party that they hate.

[Smokin Joe]

I agree with much of that. But the vast majority of these instances of violence the flight option was readily available. They chose violent contact with someone they claim was a mortal threat to them. Making physical contact with an infected person dramatically raises the risk of catching it. I have to believe the motivations involves well more than fear of a "deadly virus". That if offers a justified opportunity to put the beat down on someone they believe belongs to another party that they hate.

If they are that stressed over the virus, they may see a person without a mask as a mortal threat,independent of politics. Of course, that anger may come from knowing they've been had, and that any misery they have suffered as a result of that comes with a lot of other people being in the same position. After months of delusional fear, the reminder that their world has been deeply affected by a virus made in a lab that is nowhere as deadly to normally healthy people as has been said just causes a psychotic break.  But I'm no shrink, and I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn...I suspect there will be libraries full of theses written by the psychologists before the COVID 19 event is put to bed.

[Cyber Liberty]

If they are that stressed over the virus, they may see a person without a mask as a mortal threat,independent of politics. Of course, that anger may come from knowing they've been had, and that any misery they have suffered as a result of that comes with a lot of other people being in the same position. After months of delusional fear, the reminder that their world has been deeply affected by a virus made in a lab that is nowhere as deadly to normally healthy people as has been said just causes a psychotic break.  But I'm no shrink, and I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn...I suspect there will be libraries full of theses written by the psychologists before the COVID 19 event is put to bed.

They've made a virtue out of their fear.  They must promote that fear, for it is their virtue.

[240B]

The weirdest part of Alexa is people who have it in their bedrooms or bathroom. All of that is being recorded.
I have no Alexa or anything that 'listens' or watches me. Alexa may have a camera already. We would never know it.
Nothing I own is voice activated, except my cell phone, only because I cannot turn the mic off, which I hide in a drawer when not in use.
Bought a computer specifically with no built in camera or mic. You cannot hack something which does not exist.
Turning you mic or camera OFF doesn't do anything. People who know how, can access your computer and all all peripherals whether they are on or off.

And yes, arresting or fighting people for not wearing a mask is ironic.
If it was E-Bola, Leprosy, or Black Death, some other real fatal disease, the last thing anyone would want to do is to contact you physically.
The fact that they are will to confront you while you are wearing no mask means they really do not fear any contamination.
Otherwise, they would simply get far away from you as quickly as possible.
They are just pissed that you are not doing what they want to force you to do. It is about disobedience, not about a potential virus.

You can see this easily by people wearing a knitted mask. That is much worse than nothing because it holds and accumulates all germs the person may encounter throughout the day. If Fauci and the CDC were honest, which they certainly are not, they would warn people of the hazards involved with wearing different types of masks or wearing the same mask for weeks or months. It is worse than not wearing a mask. And we can see this in the data.

[mountaineer]

The weirdest part of Alexa is people who have it in their bedrooms or bathroom. All of that is being recorded.
I have no Alexa or anything that 'listens' or watches me. Alexa may have a camera already. We would never know it.
Nothing I own is voice activated, except my cell phone, only because I cannot turn the mic off, which I hide in a drawer when not in use.

I was at a church meeting last night with about 10 people around a table, and one of the cell phones at the table suddenly started talking to us. Perhaps it was because someone had said the word "google," we figured. Then a minute later, another person's cell phone started talking, also offering to provide some assistance in getting some information. It was rather unsettling.

A friend of ours - retired computer guy - decided he didn't want google tracking his every move, so he built a Faraday cage for his cell phone. He puts the phone in there whenever he's heading to the gun store or the pistol range.

[Cyber Liberty]

The weirdest part of Alexa is people who have it in their bedrooms or bathroom. All of that is being recorded.
I have no Alexa or anything that 'listens' or watches me. Alexa may have a camera already. We would never know it.
Nothing I own is voice activated, except my cell phone, only because I cannot turn the mic off, which I hide in a drawer when not in use.

I put an Alexa in the bedroom.  I got kicked off the Amazon network because they died of boredom at their end.   

[240B]

A friend of ours - retired computer guy - decided he didn't want google tracking his every move, so he built a Faraday cage for his cell phone. He puts the phone in there whenever he's heading to the gun store or the pistol range.

There are many cell phone blocking boxes for sale on the internet. Even in the box, voicemail should still work. So you won't miss much.
Much of the equipment I used in the military had a built in faraday cage to protect against EMP weapons.
The equipment was also waterproof in case of...well,...water.

[mountaineer]

 

[rustynail]

"They've made a virtue out of their fear.  They must promote that fear, for it is their virtue.".....then we should

oblige them and give them what they crave at every turn and corner.  It's just the right thing to do.

[Cyber Liberty]

There are many cell phone blocking boxes for sale on the internet. Even in the box, voicemail should still work. So you won't miss much.
Much of the equipment I used in the military had a built in faraday cage to protect against EMP weapons.
The equipment was also waterproof in case of...well,...water.

I used to test semiconductors while sitting in a Faraday Cage.  It was 8 ft tall, and 9X12 ft on the sides.  It was two-layer copper screens (separated by 1") on all six surfaces.  I've seen much bigger ones.

They're good for two things:  Keeping signals inside the box, and also keeping signals out of the box.  I also found the effectiveness of the dampening was in inverse proportion to frequencies being filtered.  The cage has to be pretty much solid copper sheeting for a cell phone.

[jmyrlefuller]

"They've made a virtue out of their fear.  They must promote that fear, for it is their virtue.".....then we should

oblige them and give them what they crave at every turn and corner.  It's just the right thing to do.

I can often turn it around on them. Fatalism is a very powerful weapon against fear... as is fear of the consequences of the reaction to the original fear.

"This virus is deadly! We must control everyone to stop it... now!!!"

"Well, there's not much we can do. The virus will still spread, and vaccines usually take decades. Do you seriously think you can sustain crippling isolation that long?"

[mountaineer]

Masks Don’t Work: a Review of Science Relevant to Covid-19 Social Policy
Authors: Denis G. Rancourt

Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.

Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose is smaller than one aerosol particle.

The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.  ...  https://vixra.org/abs/2006.0044

[Bigun]

Masks Don’t Work: a Review of Science Relevant to Covid-19 Social Policy
Authors: Denis G. Rancourt

Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.

Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose is smaller than one aerosol particle.

The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical and political history.  ...  https://vixra.org/abs/2006.0044

As people posting here have been repeatedly told for about 8 months now!

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[RetBobbyMI]

Interactive Tool: Masks & COVID-19

https://rationalground.com/interactive-tool-masks-covid-19/

Bottom line: masks do not lower the number of Covid cases.

[LegalAmerican]

Interactive Tool: Masks & COVID-19

https://rationalground.com/interactive-tool-masks-covid-19/

Bottom line: masks do not lower the number of Covid cases.

It was NEVER about stopping the virus...just slow it down.  So people could cope with it.  You are correct. 

[mountaineer]

If Masks Don’t Work, Why Do We Keep Wearing Them?
Many people were wrong about the masks, even the experts. This is forgivable, and therefore forgiveness is offered.
By Auguste Meyrat
October 24, 2020

According to a recent study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 70 percent of the people who tested positive for COVID-19 wore masks regularly. By contrast, under 4 percent of those testing positive never wore masks.

Coupled with this was an extensive review of mask studies worldwide in which the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) determined that typical cloth masks did little to stop the transmission of COVID-19. Although experts like to claim that cloth masks will prevent droplets carrying the virus from reaching others when a person sneezes or coughs, the reality is that most people are probably better off using their elbow and turning away from others. Moreover, the virus can still pass through a cloth mask, and the eyes, which aren’t covered, can act as “a portal of entry.”

The scientific evidence here strongly suggests that masks do nothing at best, and may actually increase the spread of infection at worst. This is probably why countries that haven’t imposed mask mandates do just as well or better than those that have required them.

And yet, the symbolism behind masks is significant enough for mask mandates and mask-shaming to continue. ...

https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/24/if-masks-dont-work-why-do-we-keep-wearing-them/

[Smokin Joe]

Like using a chain link fence to keep the mosquitoes out...