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Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« on: August 21, 2020, 09:48:43 pm »
With one adjustment, Charlie Blackmon gives an excuse to revisit the author's Real Batting Average concept.
By Yours Truly
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Much talk now hooks around Colorado Rockies outfielder Charlie Blackmon hitting (as of Friday morning) .424, and whether the short season means he’ll finish the season hitting .400 or over. I have a better piece of conversation for you.

Suppose I tell you Blackmon was really batting .648 when he woke up Friday morning?

While you reel your tongues back into your mouths from the floor and retrieve the eyes that blasted out of their sockets, I’ll begin the splainin’ I have to do by saying you might notice where I said “hitting” and where I said “batting.” Because when you say Charlie Blackmon’s hitting .424, it’s not the true, full picture of him at the plate.

The traditional batting average still has isolated value, but it’s also an incomplete statistic. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: there’s something intrinsically wrong with a stat that makes two grave mistakes. Mistake number one—it treats every hit equally. Mistake number two—it addresses official at-bats alone.

I’ve said this before, too: Should you really trust a statistic that treats all hits equally when all hits are not equal? Do you really think a single is as valuable as a double, a triple, or a home run? If you answer “yes” to both questions, you’re really cheating yourself—or you might really be Frank Lane returned to earth and living in someone else’s body.* If you answer “no,” pull up a chair and a cold drink.

Let me present to you once again, with one modification to my original concept, the formula I believe gives the most complete possible look at what a batter does at the plate:

TB + BB + IBB + SF + HBP
PA

In plain English, that’s total bases plus walks plus intentional walks plus sacrifice flies plus hit by pitches, divided by plate appearances. What the formula determines is a player’s real batting average (RBA), everything he does at the plate.

And when you add Charlie Blackmon’s 2020 total bases (60 entering today), walks (8), intentional walks (1), sacrifice flies (0), and times he was hit by a pitch (1), then divide the sum (61) by his plate appearances (108), you have his real batting average. Tell me now that a .648 batter isn’t as impressive as a .424 hitter. Still have questions? OK, here goes.

Total Bases—It counts a player’s hits the way they ought to be counted—unequally. A single is worth one base. A double, two; a triple, three; a home run, four. If all you see is a player with 42 hits (Blackmon led the entire Show entering Friday morning) you think that’s a lot of hits in 25 games—and it is, of course—but you’re not seeing the real value of those hits or everything he’s doing to help his team create runs.

The last I looked, the name of the game in baseball is putting more runs on the scoreboard than the other guys. A man who’s batting .648 is doing a magnificent job of creating and/or producing runs above and beyond scoring them or driving them in. To do both of the latter, it depends entirely on his teammates knocking him home or reaching base in the first place.

(Why discount runs scored and runs batted in to any degree? Easy: Find me the rule that says you can drive yourself in. Find me the player who steals three bases in one unmolested turn on the bases every time he reaches base. Find me the player who can steal home at will every time he reaches third base. Not even Rickey Henderson, the Man of Steal himself, could do that.)

Charlie Blackmon’s hits as of Friday morning were: 31 singles, seven doubles, one triple, and three home runs. That’s 31 + 14 + 3 + 12 bases each. That’s 60 total bases. We’re not talking about a fellow who’s coming up very big in the extra-base hit department (26 percent of his hits are extra-base hits so far), but we are talking about a productive fellow regardless.

Walks—You’d think the walks would be covered within the total bases, but they’re actually not. But I think a player who’s sharp enough at the plate to read the zone and the pitches in flight and take them appropriately should get particular credit for that. The walk doesn’t count as an official at-bat, of course, but unless I have been very deceived by my own eyes all these years, the last I looked the man was at bat, in the batter’s box, when he worked out the walk, and he wasn’t there without his bat.

Intentional Walks—It may seem superfluous since they’re also counted in the total walks, but there’s a damn good reason a player should get additional credit for intentional walks. Why would you not credit him for a batting situation in which the other guys would rather he take his base than their heads off? Whether it’s him taking their heads off or the guy batting behind him posing the better shot at a defensive out, that batter should get credit for being presence enough that they don’t want him swinging the bat.

Sacrifice Flies—The one change I made to my original RBA concept is removing sacrifice bunts from the equation. Not just because the bunt in general is in disfavour now but because of the basic reason it fell that way in the first place—you don’t give the other guys a free out to use against you.

So you moved the runner over? Good for you. But you also gave your team one less out to work with trying to get that man home, and your chances of getting him home just fell by 33.33 percent. Don’t get me started on the fools who think bunting a runner over with two outs is sound baseball. (And, as the invaluable Keith Law has put it, show me any crowd at the ballpark under normal circumstances who paid their way in to see all those sac bunts dropped, or flipped on the TV set to watch them.)

So why keep sacrifice flies but not sacrifice bunts in the RBA formula? Easy: sacrifice flies aren’t intentional outs and, by their very design and the rule book, they put runs on the scoreboard.

There isn’t a batter on the planet who goes up to the plate thinking, “Let me take one for the team. I’ll just hit this fly ball right to Bernie Boxorocks in left field so I can get Frankie Feetsies home from third on the cheap.” That batter kinda sorta wants to reach base himself, unless he gets to step on each base en route home plate after hitting one into the nearest cardboard cutout

or stuffed animal in the seats.

Hit By Pitches—As Groucho Marx once said, this is so simple a child of five knows it, now let’s find a child of five.

It doesn’t matter whether he was just trying to push you back off the plate. It doesn’t matter if he drilled you because you took him over the International Date Line your last time up. It doesn’t matter if he did it because he’s P.O.ed that the guy just ahead of you took him there. It doesn’t even matter if he drilled you for wearing a cheating team’s uniform even though you weren’t on the team to join in the cheating.

If that pitcher wants to hand you first base on the house the hard way, let it be on his head and the plus side of your ledger.

As of this morning the Show had one other .400 hitter—D.J. LeMahieu, about whom the bad news is that he’s another hapless New York Yankee on the injured list. (Yes, children, if The New England Journal of Medicine could have been last year’s Yankee yearbook, this year’s may yet become The Journal of the American Medical Association.) RBA says LeMahieu’s really batting .556.

How about Bryce Harper, about whom everyone harped on his modest traditional batting averages in recent seasons without looking his true depth at the plate? This year, he’s hitting a traditional .338. RBA says Harper’s batting .744. Mike Trout, who plays for a team that’s still not a team its best player (and baseball's) can be proud of? He’s hitting a traditional .338 so far. RBA says he’s batting .707.

How about Fernando Tatis, Jr., who inspired this week’s major kerfuffle when he swung on 3-0 with the bases loaded in the eighth inning of a San Diego Padres blowout-in-the-making, ground salami, and infuriated the boring old unwritten rule farts including his own momentarily brain-vapourised manager? Let’s see. Tatis woke up Friday morning leading the Show in total bases. (77.) RBA says he’s batting .738.

Forget the race to see whether Blackmon can finish hitting .400+ in this season of Alfred Hitchcock Presents Quiet, Please! Lawrence Fechtenberger Escapes the Intergalactic Nemesis Beyond Tomorrow’s Stroke of Fate. Wouldn’t it be more fun seeing whether Blackmon, Harper, Tatis, or Trout can finish batting .700+?

If you answered “no,” tune in tonight to Chocolate Cookies with White Stuff in the Middle Presents The Wilderness Family Theater.

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* When Frank Lane made the notorious Rocky Colavito-for-Harvey Kuenn trade as spring training finished in 1960, among his explanations for the deal Cleveland still can’t forget was, “We’ve given up forty homers for forty doubles. We’ve added fifty singles and taken away fifty strikeouts . . . Those singles and doubles win just as many games as home runs.”

(Harvey Kuenn
was better at avoiding the strikeout, but Rocky Colavito was better at it than you might remember: he never struck out more than 89 times in any season and he only ever reached that number once, in 1958.)

In 1959, Colavito led the American League with 42 home runs and 301 total bases. Kuenn in 1959 led the American League with a .353 traditional batting average and by hitting as many doubles as Colavito hit home runs. But he wasn’t even close to Colavito with 281 total bases. Colavito also produced 201 runs (scored/driven in) to Kuenn’s 170. And, 44  percent of Colavito’s hits were for extra bases against 29 percent of Kuenn’s.

RBA says Colavito batted .580 in 1959 and Kuenn, .543. I’d submit that those singles and doubles didn’t necessarily win as many games as the home runs. So did the 1959 American League standings, with the Indians finishing five games out of first place and the Detroit Tigers—who dealt Kuenn for Colavito—finishing eighteen games out.

It wasn’t Rocky Colavito’s fault the ’59 Indians finished five behind the pennant-winning White Sox, of course, and neither was it Harvey Kuenn’s fault the Tigers finished thirteen behind the Tribe. But Lane also described the trade as “hamburger for steak.” He was too thick—and, in fairness, baseball men of the time not named Branch Rickey wouldn’t have dug deep enough—to know he’d
acquired hamburger for steak.

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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2020, 02:19:47 pm »
I like including Sac Flies.  I think it's almost as important as getting on base.
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2020, 03:01:05 pm »
I like including Sac Flies.  I think it's almost as important as getting on base.
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Of course. The sacrifice fly puts a run across the plate. Like I said, you don't go up to the plate thinking you're going to hit a sacrifice fly, you go up there thinking you're going to get your own butt on base---but if you can fly out and a run still scores, you still did your job. And a batter should get appropriate credit for that.

I never really did feel comfortable with "official at-bats." Unless they're going to put you on intentionally, you weren't exactly up at the plate empty-handed. You hit a sacrifice fly, it's not like you just caught the pitch and threw it to the outfield without taking the bat off your shoulder---you were at bat! If you're sharp enough to work the base on balls when you don't see anything you think you can hit soundly (and with the assumption that the ump behind the plate isn't blinder than Ray Charles), you deserve credit for that, too and, by the way, you were at bat!)

I'm trying to track down for myself a simple way to discover what you often hear called the "productive outs"---not just sacrifice flies but the unintentional outs that push runs across the plate, like fly outs where a tagging runner takes the next base unmolested, ground outs that move them up or push one home. I know the stats are out there, I just want to find simple formulae for determining who were the most proficient at those kinds of productive outs.
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2020, 03:14:06 pm »
I'm surprised these stats aren't already in use.  Any time a runner gets moved up a base is a good thing, worthy of note.  Joe Garagiola used to talk about how much he hated the term "productive out," (when he used to do color for DBack games)  but I disagree a bit.  If a batter advances a runner, there should be credit given in the form of incrementing a stat.

It may not be a "hit" but it can win a game.
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2020, 03:30:37 pm »
I'm surprised these stats aren't already in use.  Any time a runner gets moved up a base is a good thing, worthy of note.  Joe Garagiola used to talk about how much he hated the term "productive out," (when he used to do color for DBack games)  but I disagree a bit.  If a batter advances a runner, there should be credit given in the form of incrementing a stat.

It may not be a "hit" but it can win a game.
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Well, ask and ye shall receive.

Turns out Baseball Reference actually has productive out stats. Just at random, I looked up Hall of Famer Ken Griffey, Jr.'s advanced batting stats. He had 1,031 opportunities for productive outs in his career and 357 productive outs. That measured to a 34.6 percent productive out rate, a sliver above his leagues' average.

In the same table, BR shows totals of baserunners who scored with Griffey at the plate and the percentage of runners aboard who scored on a Griffey swing whether or not it counted as an RBI. When Griffey batted, 1,243 runners scored---17.3 percent of the men on base when he was at the plate scored. (His leagues' average, lifetime: 14.8 percent.)

Just for kicks, I looked up another Hall of Famer, Willie Mays. Mays wasn't quite as prolific as Griffey when it came to productive outs (970 chances, 254 productive outs, a 26.2 percent against his leagues' 30.8 percent), but he was slightly more prolific than Griffey when it came to men scoring when he was at the plate regardless of whether it involved an official RBI: 7,512 runners on when he batted, 1,281 scored, 17.1 percent over his leagues' 13.9 percent.

In other words, 622 runners scored with Mays at the plate without him collecting official RBI, and 593 runners scored with Griffey at the plate without him collecting official RBIs.


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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2020, 03:58:54 pm »
Hits with RISP are the gravy of teams that win games by <2 runs.  Sacs with RISP are the next best thing.
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2020, 06:28:46 pm »
Hits with RISP are the gravy of teams that win games by <2 runs.  Sacs with RISP are the next best thing.
Hits with men in scoring position are the required nutrients of teams that win---by no matter how many runs. Unless, of course, you have a 1-0 win and the single run scored on a solo home run, making home plate scoring position.

You'll never see a sacrifice fly awarded on any fly out other than the one on which a man on third scores, though. A runner on second tagging and taking third on a fly out is just that, but the batter won't be awarded a sacrifice fly under the rule.


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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2020, 06:34:34 pm »
Hits with men in scoring position are the required nutrients of teams that win---by no matter how many runs. Unless, of course, you have a 1-0 win and the single run scored on a solo home run, making home plate scoring position.

You'll never see a sacrifice fly awarded on any fly out other than the one on which a man on third scores, though. A runner on second tagging and taking third on a fly out is just that, but the batter won't be awarded a sacrifice fly under the rule.

I like your gathering-in of the important batting statistics.  Gotta be simpler than the formula for the ERA.



(I actually had to prove a derivation of that using "completion of the squares" strategy in college Algebra.)
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2020, 06:54:13 pm »
I like your gathering-in of the important batting statistics.  Gotta be simpler than the formula for the ERA.



(I actually had to prove a derivation of that using "completion of the squares" strategy in college Algebra.)
Boy, didn't high school and college love doing things the hard way?

The actual ERA equation is (for those who don't know) . . .

ER x 9
IP


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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2020, 06:58:47 pm »
Boy, didn't high school and college love doing things the hard way?

The actual ERA equation is (for those who don't know) . . .

ER x 9
IP

College Algebra is pre-Calculus, and you need to be comfortable with manipulation of equations before you get to that on-ramp. 

I tease about the ERA.
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Re: Take your pick: a .400 hitter, or a .700 batter
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2020, 07:17:10 pm »
College Algebra is pre-Calculus, and you need to be comfortable with manipulation of equations before you get to that on-ramp. 

I tease about the ERA.
My teachers in elementary school, jr. high, high school, college, would all tell you how much I hated math in those years.

Now they'd laugh their fool heads off if they knew I became a self-taught maven at calculating baseball statistics.


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