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Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
« on: August 18, 2020, 07:27:07 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/06/loneliness-cure-pill-research-scientists

A growing number of people share her affliction – so much so that some governments are incorporating loneliness into their health public policy. To help people like her, a number of scientists are researching medical solutions, such as pills and nasal sprays. But will treating loneliness like a disease, rather than an existential question, work to ease their pain?

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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2020, 07:35:55 pm »
In a word, no. A pill might make you content to be alone - being an introvert - But it cannot replace the craved interaction. Being an introvert myself, I make it a point to develop human interactions even though, or even because my tendency is to be content with my own company. Any human interaction improves my life. And in that, I find need to discipline myself to seek it.

'Happy pills' have always been a lie.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2020, 07:46:12 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2020, 07:55:32 pm »
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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2020, 07:57:38 pm »
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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/aug/06/loneliness-cure-pill-research-scientists

A growing number of people share her affliction – so much so that some governments are incorporating loneliness into their health public policy. To help people like her, a number of scientists are researching medical solutions, such as pills and nasal sprays. But will treating loneliness like a disease, rather than an existential question, work to ease their pain?

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I find fault with our "medical community" more often than not. Popping a "pill" usually masks the symptoms rather than resolving or curing the disease or health issue.  I don't see that popping a pill is going to resolve loneliness only putting that "patient" in a different mind frame.  How can a pill take the place of another human being??  Impossible.  It may be able to alter the mind into thinking that they aren't lonely, but what does that truly resolve?  Interacting with other humans and having some kind of emotional bond is what helps loneliness.

I think it would be more prudent and healthier to create avenues for those people afflicted to meet others whether it be joining clubs, scheduling social outings and group functions and counseling rather than handing them a pill.

If you walk into any retirement community or assisted living facility they all have some kind of daily "activity" for all of them to do together as a group - cookouts, day trips to local attractions, bingo, sing alongs, arts and crafts projects, movie nights, etc.  Many have lost loved ones and are truly alone in life but this setting enables them to have human interaction.  They may not be able to develop the deep emotional bonds, but they still have contact and interaction with other human beings.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2020, 08:00:24 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2020, 08:09:49 pm »

"Can loneliness be cured with a pill?"..depends who brings them.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2020, 08:43:45 pm »
I find it—I'm not sure I can find a word for it, but some weird combination of amused yet enraged—that after months of government policies that have caused loneliness to skyrocket while the same said governments refuse to give up on those same policies regardless of how effective they are at their task, now they want to promote pills as a solution instead of fixing the root issue, which is social distancing. Which, of course, countless people had warned about when they started this mess.
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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2020, 08:58:27 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 18, 2020, 08:43:45 pm
I find it—I'm not sure I can find a word for it, but some weird combination of amused yet enraged—that after months of government policies that have caused loneliness to skyrocket while the same said governments refuse to give up on those same policies regardless of how effective they are at their task, now they want to promote pills as a solution instead of fixing the root issue, which is social distancing. Which, of course, countless people had warned about when they started this mess.

You are absolutely correct and yes, I'd say enraged is a legitimate reaction to being "forced" into social distancing, isolation, lockdown, etc.  Some people lost loved ones that they were not allowed to be with during their battle with COVID -- that's loneliness alright.

We're protecting the elderly?  Really?  How many are dying before they get to reconnect with their loved ones??  How many families have been isolated and now those relationships have become so distant that the relationships are forever fractured?

Yes, and now they want to throw a dang pill at the situation .... what a bunch of buttheads!
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Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 18, 2020, 08:43:45 pm
I find it—I'm not sure I can find a word for it, but some weird combination of amused yet enraged—that after months of government policies that have caused loneliness to skyrocket while the same said governments refuse to give up on those same policies regardless of how effective they are at their task, now they want to promote pills as a solution instead of fixing the root issue, which is social distancing. Which, of course, countless people had warned about when they started this mess.

If you can't find a word make one up.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2020, 09:16:12 pm »
   This Covid has been tough on everyone.  Especially, the already Lonely, and has even further devastated the marginalized people in society (those living on the boundaries anyway).  Suicides' are way up on a National Level and if that's not a Heart Breaker enough then all the people separated from their Family and Loved Ones in Nursing Homes just wants to make me cry even more, so I make humour to keep my soul from sinking even further into this abyss.
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Thorazine may not cure loneliness, but it will make it so where loneliness won't matter any more.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2020, 09:36:02 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on August 18, 2020, 08:43:45 pm
I find it—I'm not sure I can find a word for it, but some weird combination of amused yet enraged—that after months of government policies that have caused loneliness to skyrocket while the same said governments refuse to give up on those same policies regardless of how effective they are at their task, now they want to promote pills as a solution instead of fixing the root issue, which is social distancing. Which, of course, countless people had warned about when they started this mess.

I just refused to comply... One of my socializing exercises is to go around and pay my bills in person... That part has been curtailed... ALL banks and utilities are internet only. And that is a bummer. It may seem strange to y'all, but I really miss all them folks.

But I have been to many family events, several tailgate parties, had folks over sitting on the porch in a great Bible debate, and even been down to the river quite a bit (typical redneck summer meeting place is the swimming hole).

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Quote from: corbe on August 18, 2020, 09:16:12 pm
   This Covid has been tough on everyone.  Especially, the already Lonely, and has even further devastated the marginalized people in society (those living on the boundaries anyway).  Suicides' are way up on a National Level and if that's not a Heart Breaker enough then all the people separated from their Family and Loved Ones in Nursing Homes just wants to make me cry even more, so I make humour to keep my soul from sinking even further into this abyss.

Indeed -- Grandparents separated from grandkids, parents from their adult children, clubs, church groups, gym buddies, etc.,  IT. IS. RIDICULOUSLY WRONG!   Ya there's video chat -- but you can't hug a freakin' video!

Things for the most part are back to mostly normal, but my health and my husband's health has deteriorated significantly since the beginning of COVID.   9999hair out0000

I blame Fauci for the lockdown and blame Fauci and Biden in part for inflicting the virus on this country!   888mouth
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Like this.

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Reading that left me exhausterpated.
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Reading that left me exhausterpated.

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Reading that left me exhausterpated.

Better than consternpated.
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Exhausterpated is almost as bad as being frazzlefide.

Oopsiedoodletude.  :shrug:
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Kid Rock -- Lonely Road of Faith  (has gotten my through some rough patches)


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Quote from: libertybele on August 18, 2020, 09:42:43 pm
Exhausterpated is almost as bad as being frazzlefide.

Posilutely.
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Better than consternpated.

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The germans call that poopenzebrickenschitt.  :whistle:

@roamer_1   Thank you for that!  I'm laughing so hard I have tears rolling down my cheeks.   :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:
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Heck no you lonesome losers.

JACK THIS THREAD UP. Beers for everybody!  :beer:


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The germans call that poopenzebrickenschitt.  :whistle:

I only know English.

Grimasstification.
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:beer: :beer:   Believe it or not my aunt who was 85 at the time taught me to "line dance" to this tune!

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   I guess it's debatable whether were all dong better than John Prine, right now.    RIP.
   Has anyone asked @jmyrlefuller if we could turn his Thread into an impromptu Music Jam about Loneliness? 
   I have to admit Music has always gotten me through some tough times, like now.

   John Prine - Speed of the Sound of Loneliness - German Afternoons

 
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Grimasstification.

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Brings to mind a saying my pappy taught me years ago...
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Do both front and back. You'll be all that and a bag of chips.
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« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2020, 10:19:47 pm »
Quote from: corbe on August 18, 2020, 10:07:18 pm
   I guess it's debatable whether were all dong better than John Prine, right now.    RIP.
   Has anyone asked @jmyrlefuller if we could turn his Thread into an impromptu Music Jam about Loneliness? 
   I have to admit Music has always gotten me through some tough times, like now.

   John Prine - Speed of the Sound of Loneliness - German Afternoons

 
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That is why I have always loved this forum ... we have the liberty to take a break from all the b.s. going on post our random thoughts, music and silliness .... it is good for the soul!  I think we all deserve a break from all the craziness.

A big thank you to @jmyrlefuller for this thread! 
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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
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I'll see you "Only the Lonely" and raise you with Roy Orbison's song of the same name:


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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2020, 10:27:50 pm »
Quote from: corbe on August 18, 2020, 10:07:18 pm
   I guess it's debatable whether were all dong better than John Prine, right now.    RIP.
   Has anyone asked @jmyrlefuller if we could turn his Thread into an impromptu Music Jam about Loneliness? 
   I have to admit Music has always gotten me through some tough times, like now.
Knock yourself out. I've said what I've had to say about the idea.


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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
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I'll see you "Only the Lonely" and raise you with Roy Orbison's song of the same name:


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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
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Re: Can loneliness be cured with a pill? Scientists are now asking the question
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