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Joel B. Pollak 16 Aug 2020

California suffered a second day of rolling electricity blackouts on Saturday evening as the state’s power grid struggled to deal with a heat wave that caused a surge in consumer demand.

There was widespread public confusion, as the state’s electricity grid operator had said earlier in the day that no blackouts would be necessary.

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At 4:21 pm California’s electric grid operator said  “no emergencies planned”

At 7:51 pm  it said “Stage 3 Emergency” & rolling blackouts!

Why?

Too little nat gas (lost 470-MW plant) & too much unreliable wind (loss of 1,000-MW)

The climate crusade is putting lives at risk

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2020, 12:29:32 pm »
Getting what you voted for good and hard!
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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2020, 01:57:14 pm »
Getting what you voted for good and hard!
I realize you probably(?) meant it for the libtards, but us conservatives have to suffer through this idiocy as well.

Temps are 110+ with higher than usual humidity which means swamp units are very ineffective in the desert areas.

Many rely solely on swamp units and don't have AC, which means the elderly and infirm are at higher risk.

Forecast in our area says it will last through next week btw.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2020, 02:03:16 pm »
I realize you probably(?) meant it for the libtards, but us conservatives have to suffer through this idiocy as well.

Temps are 110+ with higher than usual humidity which means swamp units are very ineffective in the desert areas.

Many rely solely on swamp units and don't have AC, which means the elderly and infirm are at higher risk.

Forecast in our area says it will last through next week btw.

We had an epic lightening storm last night on the coast here in central CA. Weirdest weather I've seen in decades.

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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2020, 02:58:09 pm »
We had an epic lightening storm last night on the coast here in central CA. Weirdest weather I've seen in decades.

Weather change. Damn SUV’S!

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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2020, 03:29:03 pm »
We had an epic lightening storm last night on the coast here in central CA. Weirdest weather I've seen in decades.
The Lake Fire in SoCal is actually affecting our weather here...the pyrocumulus cloud effect from the fire is generating thunderstorms and lightning.

https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/08/14/lake-fire-near-lake-hughes-ca-was-very-active-again-friday-afternoon/
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2020, 04:03:33 pm »
I realize you probably(?) meant it for the libtards, but us conservatives have to suffer through this idiocy as well.

Temps are 110+ with higher than usual humidity which means swamp units are very ineffective in the desert areas.

Many rely solely on swamp units and don't have AC, which means the elderly and infirm are at higher risk.

Forecast in our area says it will last through next week btw.
Seems high time to leave.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2020, 04:28:20 pm »
Seems high time to leave.

I did, and never been smarter.
It's been past "high time" for years...just a few more years to retirement age and no early retirement penalty.

Already looking for our CalExit landing place...
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2020, 05:14:02 pm »
It's been past "high time" for years...just a few more years to retirement age and no early retirement penalty.

Already looking for our CalExit landing place...

AZ welcomes you.  If it hadn't hit 125 yesterday I'd recommend Bullhead City...30 miles or so from Cali.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2020, 08:26:20 am »
AZ welcomes you.  If it hadn't hit 125 yesterday I'd recommend Bullhead City...30 miles or so from Cali.
Thanks! :beer:

But we're not looking for anyplace that hot...sheesh. *who knows*

AZ is on the short-short list...I rather enjoy the dry climate.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2020, 09:12:54 am »
It's been past "high time" for years...just a few more years to retirement age and no early retirement penalty.

Already looking for our CalExit landing place...
Good luck with the hunt.

Seems a number of places would welcome good people.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2020, 09:25:19 am »
Good luck with the hunt.

Seems a number of places would welcome good people.

We see a lot of Californians arriving here in Georgia, moving into brand new $900,000 mansion houses, and then planting Biden signs in their yards.  I don't mind the immigrants, but I wish they wouldn't bring their 'stupid' with them.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2020, 01:46:55 pm »
Good luck with the hunt.

Seems a number of places would welcome good people.
Thank you.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2020, 01:51:14 pm »
We see a lot of Californians arriving here in Georgia, moving into brand new $900,000 mansion houses, and then planting Biden signs in their yards.  I don't mind the immigrants, but I wish they wouldn't bring their 'stupid' with them.
There's that...

I figure we're not gonna catch a break as CA "refugees" for a while once we move into a more conservative location, until we earn/prove our creds.

I suppose it's only natural for locals to presume someone coming from a "progressive" state are themselves progressive...
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2020, 02:04:01 pm »
There's that...

I figure we're not gonna catch a break as CA "refugees" for a while once we move into a more conservative location, until we earn/prove our creds.

I suppose it's only natural for locals to presume someone coming from a "progressive" state are themselves progressive...
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1.  Change out the California plates for Texas plates ASAP.  Buy a pickup truck if you don't have one already, and place an NRA sticker on it.

2. Learn how to say Ya'll instead of You All or You Guys

3. Ask the waitress whether you can have some Blue Bell.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2020, 02:05:34 pm »
There are several actions you can take if you choose to settle in Texas, but here are my topd 2:

1.  Change out the California plates for Texas plates ASAP.  Buy a pickup truck if you don't have one already, and place an NRA sticker on it.

2. Learn how to say Ya'll instead of You All or You Guys

Or find a GOP office, and go in to change your Registration.  Talk to people.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2020, 02:26:27 pm »
I figure we're not gonna catch a break as CA "refugees" for a while once we move into a more conservative location, until we earn/prove our creds.

Not really a problem.  It's the Biden bumper sticker that stands out - not the California plates.  My approach is to pull up beside them at a red light, honk to get their attention while signaling for them to roll down their window.  Once they do that, I say, "Hey, you probably aren't aware of this, but some idiot put a Biden sticker on your car.  Just thought you would want to know."
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2020, 08:02:13 pm »
There are several actions you can take if you choose to settle in Texas, but here are my top 3:

1.  Change out the California plates for Texas plates ASAP.  Buy a pickup truck if you don't have one already, and place an NRA sticker on it.

2. Learn how to say Ya'll instead of You All or You Guys

3. Ask the waitress whether you can have some Blue Bell.
Thanks :beer: :beer:

We spent almost 4 years in South Carolina...the "ya'll" will come back pretty quick...don't miss the damned chiggers or fire ants though.

Will 3%er and NOTW stickers on the truck help?

Yep, registrations, licenses, etc. changed asap.

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2020, 08:03:19 pm »
Or find a GOP office, and go in to change your Registration.  Talk to people.
Yep, will go from DTS here in CA to R in forever home state.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2020, 08:05:17 pm »
Not really a problem.  It's the Biden bumper sticker that stands out - not the California plates.  My approach is to pull up beside them at a red light, honk to get their attention while signaling for them to roll down their window.  Once they do that, I say, "Hey, you probably aren't aware of this, but some idiot put a Biden sticker on your car.  Just thought you would want to know."
:rolling: :rolling:

No such thing has ever been on any of our vehicles...only a 3%er and NOTW stickers on my truck.  I think it makes it clear enough to any who see them how I roll. 
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2020, 08:09:42 pm »

Will 3%er and NOTW stickers on the truck help?

Now that I looked it up, those show you are of good stock.

Unsure how many of my fellow Texans would understand what they meant, though.
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2020, 08:13:17 pm »
Not really a problem.  It's the Biden bumper sticker that stands out - not the California plates.  My approach is to pull up beside them at a red light, honk to get their attention while signaling for them to roll down their window.  Once they do that, I say, "Hey, you probably aren't aware of this, but some idiot put a Biden sticker on your car.  Just thought you would want to know."

 :rolling: :rolling: :beer:

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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2020, 08:16:11 pm »
Thanks :beer: :beer:

We spent almost 4 years in South Carolina...the "ya'll" will come back pretty quick...don't miss the damned chiggers or fire ants though.

Will 3%er and NOTW stickers on the truck help?

Yep, registrations, licenses, etc. changed asap.

TX BBQ washed down with a Shiner and then BB for desert...GtG.

Asking them to put the Blue Bell on a slice of Pecan pie will cement the deal for ya! @SZonian
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2020, 08:18:10 pm »
Asking them to put the Blue Bell on a slice of Pecan pie will cement the deal for ya! @SZonian
Who doesn't like Pecan Pie?  Damn, just gained 3 lbs thinking about it...
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2020, 08:19:30 pm »
Now that I looked it up, those show you are of good stock.

Unsure how many of my fellow Texans would understand what they meant, though.
No worries, I'll adapt and switch them out if need be...easy to do when in comfortable environs.
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2020, 08:22:33 pm »
California Gov. Gavin Newsom: Time to ‘Sober Up’ About Green Energy’s Flaws
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2020/08/17/california-gov-gavin-newsom-time-to-sober-up-about-green-renewable-energy-flaws/
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2020, 08:23:48 pm »
Who doesn't like Pecan Pie?  Damn, just gained 3 lbs thinking about it...

I have a secret ingredient to a pecan pie recipe given to me by a chef many years ago when we visited the Marlsgate Plantation in Arkansas ... until I had pecan pie there I truly didn't like it. 

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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2020, 08:25:03 pm »
I have a secret ingredient to a pecan pie recipe given to me by a chef many years ago when we visited the Marlsgate Plantation in Arkansas ... until I had pecan pie there I truly didn't like it.

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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2020, 08:35:28 pm »
The tech capital of the world couldn't foresee this...

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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2020, 08:43:20 pm »
California Gov. Gavin Newsom: Time to ‘Sober Up’ About Green Energy’s Flaws
https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2020/08/17/california-gov-gavin-newsom-time-to-sober-up-about-green-renewable-energy-flaws/

Oh for bleep sake! Bird choppers were proven economically nonviable and unreliable 40 bleeping years ago! When I moved back to CA in 1978 there was a bird chopper farm in the hills around Benicia. It is so steadily windy there that trees grow slanted. A few years later, government subsidies ended, the individual choppers ceased working and fell apart. Some time in the late 80s or early 90s the debris was removed. I think the bird chopper farms in the Altamont Pass area went through a death and resurrection cycle. The bottom line is that base load power - power that has to be there 24x7x52 - cannot be derived from intermittent sources like bird choppers and bird fryers. No combination of subsidies and mandatory buy percentages can alter that. Why is it hard to understand that?
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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2020, 08:49:53 pm »
Why is it hard to understand that?

Math. And reality.  :shrug: :whistle:

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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2020, 09:12:49 pm »
Oh for bleep sake! Bird choppers were proven economically nonviable and unreliable 40 bleeping years ago! When I moved back to CA in 1978 there was a bird chopper farm in the hills around Benicia. It is so steadily windy there that trees grow slanted. A few years later, government subsidies ended, the individual choppers ceased working and fell apart. Some time in the late 80s or early 90s the debris was removed. I think the bird chopper farms in the Altamont Pass area went through a death and resurrection cycle. The bottom line is that base load power - power that has to be there 24x7x52 - cannot be derived from intermittent sources like bird choppers and bird fryers. No combination of subsidies and mandatory buy percentages can alter that. Why is it hard to understand that?

The simple truth is you have to build enough power generation for twice the capacity you need so that you have reliable backup for the other unreliable half. So you pay at least twice as much as it would otherwise cost to power the electrical grid. All for the fantasy they're saving the planet. Everyone in the state has a lower standard of living as a result.

Here in Arizona electricity is much less than half the cost.

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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2020, 09:19:00 pm »
The simple truth is you have to build enough power generation for twice the capacity you need so that you have reliable backup for the other unreliable half. So you pay at least twice as much as it would otherwise cost to power the electrical grid. All for the fantasy they're saving the planet. Everyone in the state has a lower standard of living as a result.

Here in Arizona electricity is much less than half the cost.

We had it made here till Rosciot came along... ALL the dams here fed here first. When our electrical needs were satisfied, THEN the rest was sold to the grid. Rosciot (R, Governor) got rid of that and we went from 25 bucks a month to 50, overnight.

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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2020, 09:19:27 pm »
California's Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant is scheduled to be decommissioned in the next few years.

It supplies over 8% of California's electricity.

The state's environmental demands have driven it to close.

The state deserves the coming consequences.


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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2020, 09:24:05 pm »
We had it made here till Rosciot came along... ALL the dams here fed here first. When our electrical needs were satisfied, THEN the rest was sold to the grid. Rosciot (R, Governor) got rid of that and we went from 25 bucks a month to 50, overnight.

Before I moved from California to Arizona my average monthly electric bill was about $700. It went to about $180 in Arizona. And that's with summers that require the A/C run night and day.

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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2020, 09:58:45 pm »
Before I moved from California to Arizona my average monthly electric bill was about $700. It went to about $180 in Arizona. And that's with summers that require the A/C run night and day.

Yeah.. I'll stay up here.  :beer:
The difference is made in the winter... When I pay through the nose.... But I really don't. I just pick up a cord now and then through the summer when I am up in the woods anyway, so all it really costs me is the saw gas and the permit. And half the time I am clearing snags on private land, which is free.

2, maybe 3 cord, or I have to pay for Nat Gas.

Once I am settled up in the sticks, I will be making my own electricity (60 ft drop in a waterfall, pipe, turbine... and solar too probably), and I can pull snags out of my own land with the tractor... Once all that is set up, power and heat is dang near free.

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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2020, 10:53:17 pm »
There's that...

I figure we're not gonna catch a break as CA "refugees" for a while once we move into a more conservative location, until we earn/prove our creds.

I suppose it's only natural for locals to presume someone coming from a "progressive" state are themselves progressive...
We have seen it all too often. If you do bug out, stop somewhere safe along the way and put some Trump Stickers on the bumper and an NRA decal in the window, and things will go easier for you.  :laugh:
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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2020, 11:35:53 pm »
We have seen it all too often. If you do bug out, stop somewhere safe along the way and put some Trump Stickers on the bumper and an NRA decal in the window, and things will go easier for you.  :laugh:

LOL! That's right... And work on a southern or western drawl...

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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2020, 03:37:11 am »
LOL! That's right... And work on a southern or western drawl...
There is an expression when someone looks around in spaces like The Big Empty and the plains East of there, that furtive look that betrays the desire to find something, anything to hide behind, that is unmistakable (and, I might add, amusing). It's a different face than the one seen on mountaintops taking in the view, rather instead a betrayal of a feeling of being small and naked before nature's fury...  It's something that takes time to accept, to look at a night sky and get the feeling you could fall off the planet into the vastness of all those stars in the universe beyond. 

But once you do, something changes. Sufficiently humbled, with all of this put in perspective, there is the realization that there is so much more than even the pettiness of people and their squabbles to be king of their particular dungheap, and you're left content to have a few friends you'd run the river with, and be comfortable in your own skin, so long as you are at peace with Almighty God.

Of course, there are those who flee at the first opportunity, but perhaps that's just as well.

Robert Service said it well:

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I’ve stood in some mighty-mouthed hollow
   That’s plumb-full of hush to the brim;
I’ve watched the big, husky sun wallow
   In crimson and gold, and grow dim,
Till the moon set the pearly peaks gleaming,
   And the stars tumbled out, neck and crop;
And I’ve thought that I surely was dreaming,
   With the peace o’ the world piled on top.

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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2020, 06:32:02 am »
We have seen it all too often. If you do bug out, stop somewhere safe along the way and put some Trump Stickers on the bumper and an NRA decal in the window, and things will go easier for you.  :laugh:
Not a matter of "If", but when...momma surprised me yesterday asking how much longer we had to stay.
Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.

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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2020, 01:38:22 pm »
There is an expression when someone looks around in spaces like The Big Empty and the plains East of there, that furtive look that betrays the desire to find something, anything to hide behind, that is unmistakable (and, I might add, amusing). It's a different face than the one seen on mountaintops taking in the view, rather instead a betrayal of a feeling of being small and naked before nature's fury...  It's something that takes time to accept, to look at a night sky and get the feeling you could fall off the planet into the vastness of all those stars in the universe beyond. 

But once you do, something changes. Sufficiently humbled, with all of this put in perspective, there is the realization that there is so much more than even the pettiness of people and their squabbles to be king of their particular dungheap, and you're left content to have a few friends you'd run the river with, and be comfortable in your own skin, so long as you are at peace with Almighty God.

Of course, there are those who flee at the first opportunity, but perhaps that's just as well.

Robert Service said it well:
The Spell of the Yukon
By Robert W. Service


Excellent post. Excellent!
Though for me of course, the mountain top provides that humility... Standing on a mountain with ridge after ridge after ridge as far as the eye can see in all directions... One is so very tiny, even striding in the grandeur to get to that place that it boggles the mind to know that grandeur, as magnificent as it was, goes on and on and on.

And the obstacles overcome, and the dangers averted... It turns out they are but a pittance, because they too go on and on. One becomes incredibly small. Why then do I matter so much to Yah, as insignificant as I am in the face of it all? I can only direct you to something I posted earlier...

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,411715.msg2270488.html#msg2270488

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Re: California Suffers 2nd Day of Blackouts as Wind, Solar Power Falter
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2020, 01:57:16 am »
Excellent post. Excellent!
Though for me of course, the mountain top provides that humility... Standing on a mountain with ridge after ridge after ridge as far as the eye can see in all directions... One is so very tiny, even striding in the grandeur to get to that place that it boggles the mind to know that grandeur, as magnificent as it was, goes on and on and on.

And the obstacles overcome, and the dangers averted... It turns out they are but a pittance, because they too go on and on. One becomes incredibly small. Why then do I matter so much to Yah, as insignificant as I am in the face of it all? I can only direct you to something I posted earlier...

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,411715.msg2270488.html#msg2270488
I saw that on the way to this thread. What a magnificent version of How Great Thou Art! (Thanks for posting that!)
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis