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On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« on: August 02, 2020, 05:31:57 pm »
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On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
By Reid Wilson - 08/02/20 11:00 AM EDT

For four years, President Trump has held an iron grip over the Republican Party, basking in the warm glow of adulation from a base that follows his direction to punish critics and reward allies.

But with polls showing an increasingly perilous path to reelection, there are new signs that his grip is loosening, as some Republicans begin to explore what the future of the Grand Old Party might look like once Trump becomes a lame duck or an ex-president.

In interviews with more than a dozen strategists, party leaders and current and former members of Congress, Republicans said their party is searching for a new direction even before Trump leaves the stage.


“His weaker poll numbers and off-the-wall tweets plus his flexible, day-to-day ideology empower and in some cases encourage dissent,” said Tom Davis, a former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. “Politics is, above all, a game of survival, and his off-message remarks do not inspire confidence.”

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2020, 07:01:09 pm »
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“His weaker poll numbers and off-the-wall tweets plus his flexible, day-to-day ideology empower and in some cases encourage dissent,” said Tom Davis, a former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. “Politics is, above all, a game of survival, and his off-message remarks do not inspire confidence.”

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2020, 08:39:40 pm »
Politics is a temporal institution, therefore readily replaceable.
Man has created more than a hundreds of them since the 18th century,
including Federalists, Whigs, Free Soil, Farm-Labor, Liberal, Socialist,Tea 
and none are missed because their human link is to faddish ideology!
Principles, in contrast, are timeless and the link to the values that created
the nation/state.
We will find our way out of our self-created morass, if & when we re-embrace
our founding principles and flush politics along w/their representatives
down the commode, where they belong. All of them.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2020, 08:42:31 pm by Absalom »

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2020, 10:56:56 am »
Tom Davis former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee: “Politics is, above all, a game of survival, and his off-message remarks do not inspire confidence.”

UH no!  This is why I don't donate to the NRCC. 
We've taken back the GOP.  Ole Tom Davis is #DeepState/GOPe.

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2020, 12:50:35 pm »
Politics is indeed a game of survival.  And for the GOP,  that means creating the conditions for those who oppose Trump to realize that the socialist and nihilist rendancies of today's off-the-rails Democrats need to be checked by a GOP Senate majority.

We will need to play effective defense for a few years,  and the experience of the TEA party proves that being in opposition can reinvigorate conservatism and Constitutionalism.

History will record Trump's ascendancy as a catalyst for radicalism.  His promise and potential have been squandered by years of unforced errors and forsaken opportunities which have now the bad guys a wide open road to gain power.   We cannot let them gain total power.

We must retain the Senate.  That is all that matters.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2020, 12:56:33 pm by Jazzhead »
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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2020, 05:39:24 pm »
Politics is indeed a game of survival.  And for the GOP,  that means creating the conditions for those who oppose Trump to realize that the socialist and nihilist rendancies of today's off-the-rails Democrats need to be checked by a GOP Senate majority.

We will need to play effective defense for a few years,  and the experience of the TEA party proves that being in opposition can reinvigorate conservatism and Constitutionalism.

History will record Trump's ascendancy as a catalyst for radicalism.  His promise and potential have been squandered by years of unforced errors and forsaken opportunities which have now the bad guys a wide open road to gain power.   We cannot let them gain total power.

We must retain the Senate.  That is all that matters.

On the contrary, history will record that Trump's ascendancy was a reaction to radicalism. His rise came as the media, academia, and the Left were working in full concert to silence Conservative views in society. They did not seek to oppose or argue against conservatism...simply to end the debate by silencing conservatives via any means possible. This came at a time when these groups were also...and most effectively....working to socially ostracize Conservatives and ANY who oppose the far left view on a whole range of ideas and issues. There's a reason  70% of Conservatives are afraid to express their views publicly and in social situation...there's a disturbing intellectual shaming that is happening in society and its deliberate and coordinated.

So, the "radicalism" on the Left was already running rampant...it had and has literally taken over the Dem party, 90% of the media, academia and much of Government. And THEN came President Trump.

Trump is the remedy, albeit one that comes with some serious side effects. As do most real cures for horrific diseases. The cancer of Socio-Marxism that has infected our institutions...Media, much of Government, the Dem party...has metastisized and Trump is the heavy dose of radiation that is the only real hope of killing it. Your position is akin to being upset that the radiation is difficult and painful...and so must be causing the cancer it is actually killing.

The only thing we agree on, I think, is that we must retain the Senate.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2020, 05:46:29 pm by Mesaclone »
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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2020, 05:53:49 pm »
History will record Trump's ascendancy as a catalyst for radicalism.  His promise and potential have been squandered by years of unforced errors and forsaken opportunities which have now the bad guys a wide open road to gain power.   We cannot let them gain total power.

We must retain the Senate.  That is all that matters.

Because the GOPe was doing such a great job of fighting the progressives before trump took over.

I hope you aren’t suggesting we go back to pinning our hopes for the future on them.

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2020, 06:29:45 pm »
Politics is indeed a game of survival.  And for the GOP,  that means creating the conditions for those who oppose Trump to realize that the socialist and nihilist rendancies of today's off-the-rails Democrats need to be checked by a GOP Senate majority.

We will need to play effective defense for a few years,  and the experience of the TEA party proves that being in opposition can reinvigorate conservatism and Constitutionalism.

History will record Trump's ascendancy as a catalyst for radicalism.  His promise and potential have been squandered by years of unforced errors and forsaken opportunities which have now the bad guys a wide open road to gain power.   We cannot let them gain total power.

We must retain the Senate.  That is all that matters.
So you consider the 8 years of obama to be non-radical and all of the polarization we see to day is 100% Trumps doing?

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2020, 07:50:50 pm »
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For four years, President Trump has held an iron grip over the Republican Party ...

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That "said", if the Rs aren't thinking of 2022, 2024, and beyond, they're fools. Which is entirely possible, I guess.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2020, 10:23:12 pm »
So you consider the 8 years of obama to be non-radical and all of the polarization we see to day is 100% Trumps doing?

@EdinVA   @Jazzhead .

Jazzhead is what I call a "Reluctant Republican". He grew up Dim,and in his heart of hearts is still a Dim emotionally,but his life experiences and his mind tell him what is known as "liberalism" is in FACT,slavery to the state.

Maybe he will be able to bring himself to take the final step to free his mind enough to accept what is to him an "uncomfortable truth",and maybe not.

It's kinda like being "a little bit pregnant". Reality can sometimes be too painful for some people to accept.
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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2020, 10:25:13 pm »
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On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
By Reid Wilson - 08/02/20 11:00 AM EDT

For four years, President Trump has held an iron grip over the Republican Party,

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Damn shame that grip wasn't on their throats.
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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2020, 04:39:12 am »
On the contrary, history will record that Trump's ascendancy was a reaction to radicalism. His rise came as the media, academia, and the Left were working in full concert to silence Conservative views in society. They did not seek to oppose or argue against conservatism...simply to end the debate by silencing conservatives via any means possible. This came at a time when these groups were also...and most effectively....working to socially ostracize Conservatives and ANY who oppose the far left view on a whole range of ideas and issues. There's a reason  70% of Conservatives are afraid to express their views publicly and in social situation...there's a disturbing intellectual shaming that is happening in society and its deliberate and coordinated.
So, the "radicalism" on the Left was already running rampant...it had and has literally taken over the Dem party, 90% of the media, academia and much of Government. And THEN came President Trump.
Trump is the remedy, albeit one that comes with some serious side effects. As do most real cures for horrific diseases. The cancer of Socio-Marxism that has infected our institutions...Media, much of Government, the Dem party...has metastisized and Trump is the heavy dose of radiation that is the only real hope of killing it. Your position is akin to being upset that the radiation is difficult and painful...and so must be causing the cancer it is actually killing.
The only thing we agree on, I think, is that we must retain the Senate.
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Hmm..........indeed Trump is self-inflicted radiation.

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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2020, 06:17:52 am »
On the contrary, history will record that Trump's ascendancy was a reaction to radicalism. His rise came as the media, academia, and the Left were working in full concert to silence Conservative views in society. They did not seek to oppose or argue against conservatism...simply to end the debate by silencing conservatives via any means possible. This came at a time when these groups were also...and most effectively....working to socially ostracize Conservatives and ANY who oppose the far left view on a whole range of ideas and issues. There's a reason  70% of Conservatives are afraid to express their views publicly and in social situation...there's a disturbing intellectual shaming that is happening in society and its deliberate and coordinated.

So, the "radicalism" on the Left was already running rampant...it had and has literally taken over the Dem party, 90% of the media, academia and much of Government. And THEN came President Trump.

Trump is the remedy, albeit one that comes with some serious side effects. As do most real cures for horrific diseases. The cancer of Socio-Marxism that has infected our institutions...Media, much of Government, the Dem party...has metastisized and Trump is the heavy dose of radiation that is the only real hope of killing it. Your position is akin to being upset that the radiation is difficult and painful...and so must be causing the cancer it is actually killing.

The only thing we agree on, I think, is that we must retain the Senate.
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Re: On The Trail: The first signs of a post-Trump GOP
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2020, 06:22:16 am »
Ah. The Hill again.  Where do they come up with this stuff? Facts to the contrary.  TDS on steroids.