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Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« on: July 30, 2020, 10:25:14 am »
Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
By Jessie Hellmann - 07/30/20 10:16 AM EDT

Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, is recommending the use of face shields along with masks to protect against COVID-19 infection.

Face shields can offer more protection to the wearer than cloth face coverings, which are intended to prevent asymptomatic individuals from spreading coronavirus to others.

“The mask protects others, to block those droplets and block that contamination that happens when you speak or sing or talk, or even breathe,” Birx said on "Fox & Friends" Thursday morning.

“The thing about the face shields — we think that could protect the individuals and that it would decrease the ability for them to touch their eyes and spread the virus as well as those droplets coming towards them. So there are two different technologies for two different reasons.”

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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2020, 10:30:37 am »
You'd better hope they can;t find a way to say farts spread Woohan... Or all y'all will be walking around with mufflers sticking out of your butts.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2020, 11:49:01 am »
She must have just checked the inventories of face shields.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2020, 12:03:02 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 30, 2020, 10:30:37 am
You'd better hope they can;t find a way to say farts spread Woohan... Or all y'all will be walking around with mufflers sticking out of your butts.
A diaper will work just fine....
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2020, 12:05:21 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 30, 2020, 10:30:37 am
You'd better hope they can;t find a way to say farts spread Woohan... Or all y'all will be walking around with mufflers sticking out of your butts.
Im more worried Dr Birx will one day say farts kill the virus.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2020, 12:08:07 pm »
They will not stop.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2020, 12:14:27 pm »
First masks.  Then shields.  By November, the only thing that will protect you from catching covid will be a vote for Joe Biden.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 12:17:40 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 30, 2020, 12:14:27 pm
First masks.  Then shields.  By November, the only thing that will protect you from catching covid will be a vote for Joe Biden.
By November they will be openly threatening us with exactly that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2020, 12:21:07 pm »
As a safety health and enviromental manager  at petrochemical facility, we managed the use of PPE, and its requirements.  There were cases and needs to use face shields.  ALL require that subject be stationary, and remove periodically for self orientation.

You want people hurt?  Watch a store load of people walking around with masks and fogged up face shields falling and hurting themselves.  Do people think these things through?
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2020, 01:18:18 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on July 30, 2020, 12:03:02 pm
A diaper will work just fine....

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I see what you did there...  :beer:
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2020, 01:19:20 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 12:05:21 pm
Im more worried Dr Birx will one day say farts kill the virus.

In that case, I have been immune all the way along...  :whistle:
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2020, 01:21:14 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 30, 2020, 12:21:07 pm
As a safety health and enviromental manager  at petrochemical facility, we managed the use of PPE, and its requirements.  There were cases and needs to use face shields.  ALL require that subject be stationary, and remove periodically for self orientation.

You want people hurt?  Watch a store load of people walking around with masks and fogged up face shields falling and hurting themselves.  Do people think these things through?

If you were a painter, you would know that moving with a face shield actually draws a roil of air in behind the shield from the sides.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2020, 01:26:58 pm »
Why not gloves and foot coverings also?
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2020, 01:30:07 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on July 30, 2020, 01:26:58 pm
Why not gloves and foot coverings also?

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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2020, 01:31:36 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on July 30, 2020, 01:26:58 pm
Why not gloves and foot coverings also?

WTH, lets's just go full frontal Level A.    :cool:

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2020, 01:33:58 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 30, 2020, 01:31:36 pm
WTH, lets's just go full frontal Level A.    :cool:


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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2020, 01:35:08 pm »
Just for general information, you don’t test positive for the DISEASE. You test positive for the VIRUS and most that test positive for the VIRUS never develop the DISEASE.

The DISEASE COVID-19 is ‘diagnosed’, not ‘tested’.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2020, 01:38:28 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on July 30, 2020, 01:26:58 pm
Why not gloves and foot coverings also?
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2020, 02:14:17 pm »
Fauci earlier recommended everyone wear goggles. Yeah, that's going to happen.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2020, 02:30:21 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 30, 2020, 01:35:08 pm
Just for general information, you don’t test positive for the DISEASE. You test positive for the VIRUS and most that test positive for the VIRUS never develop the DISEASE.

The DISEASE COVID-19 is ‘diagnosed’, not ‘tested’.

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2020, 02:32:08 pm »
Next thing they will be recommending that everyone wear space suits due to the earth’s atmosphere being uninhabitable.  :yowsa:
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2020, 02:38:46 pm »
Ready for my closeup, Dr. Fauci.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2020, 02:48:40 pm »
So if I go to the store, would I wear level, A, B, or C?  What about doctor's offices?  Churches?  Banks?  Parks, Restaurants?  Movies? Sporting events?   I really think she needs to be more specific. Maybe most importantly can I deduct the costs of these get ups on our taxes?  :shrug:


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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2020, 03:46:48 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 30, 2020, 02:38:46 pm
Ready for my closeup, Dr. Fauci.


Nice!  Steampunk Mask....
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2020, 03:51:44 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 30, 2020, 02:38:46 pm
Ready for my closeup, Dr. Fauci.


"No one cared who I was until I put on this mask"
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2020, 04:05:36 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 03:51:44 pm
"No one cared who I was until I put on this mask"

LOL! I tell you what, that guy could clear a subway car in seconds.  :bolt:
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2020, 04:25:22 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 30, 2020, 03:51:44 pm
"No one cared who I was until I put on this mask"

Yeah, me too...  :shrug:

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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2020, 07:54:10 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 30, 2020, 12:14:27 pm
First masks.  Then shields.  By November, the only thing that will protect you from catching covid will be a vote for Joe Biden.
Hey, the Supreme Court has already said states can order electors who to vote for. The next step is naturally ordering the general public.
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2020, 10:22:05 pm »
Besides getting in your eyes, it can also, get into your ear canal.  We've had other flu's. This is over the top, and won't stop anything.  In OREGON, anyone black, does NOT have to wear a face mask, as it is discriminatory.  Then anyone with a medical condition, like needing oxygen, do not need to wear a mask.  Then anyone who RIOTS....does not need to worry about any mask, except to hide their identity. 
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2020, 11:42:55 pm »
If a paper and/or cloth mask doesn't block the virus when it is floating in the air. Why would an eye shield help?

Where are the actual scientific studies that say any of this works with a virus in the air?

All just claims based on positions of authority and nothing more.
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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2020, 08:47:09 am »
Quote from: DB on July 30, 2020, 11:42:55 pm
If a paper and/or cloth mask doesn't block the virus when it is floating in the air. Why would an eye shield help?

Where are the actual scientific studies that say any of this works with a virus in the air?

All just claims based on positions of authority and nothing more.
Science has nothing to do with it. Don't be surprised if Brix and Fauci next solemnly tell us that the best way to ward off the virus is wearing different color socks and standing on your head at least twice a day.
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2020, 09:13:44 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 30, 2020, 10:30:37 am
You'd better hope they can;t find a way to say farts spread Woohan... Or all y'all will be walking around with mufflers sticking out of your butts.

@roamer_1

Remember cow farts being an "environmental concern" back a few decades ago?

Your post reminded me of that.

I wonder who the cattle association had to bribe to get that to die down?
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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2020, 09:13:57 am »
People have this all wrong about viral transmission. The real problem is not covid infecting people, it’s politics infecting covid.
 
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2020, 09:19:20 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 09:13:44 am
@roamer_1

Remember cow farts being an "environmental concern" back a few decades ago?

Your post reminded me of that.

I wonder who the cattle association had to bribe to get that to die down?

@sneakypete
It never DID stop... It's just sublimated by the volume of other things the left also claims.
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2020, 09:19:58 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 30, 2020, 12:14:27 pm
First masks.  Then shields.  By November, the only thing that will protect you from catching covid will be a vote for Joe Biden.

@Hoodat

I have COPD and my lungs and stomach are filled with fluid from cancer,so I can't wear a face mask. Wearing one makes it impossible for me to breathe.

So I broke out my Lincoln Welding "flip face mask" with the shatterproof shield I used to use to grind or cut meal and to weedwack with,and started wearing it. It allows me to breathe what I laughingly call "normally".

They now seem to be in such high demand there were none to be found in stock on amazon or ebay when I went to buy one as a gift for a friend,and had to order one and wait for it to come in. The few places on the web that still had any in stock were getting up to 50 percent over retail for the ones they were selling.
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2020, 09:22:13 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 09:19:58 am
@Hoodat

I have COPD and my lungs and stomach are filled with fluid from cancer,so I can't wear a face mask. Wearing one makes it impossible for me to breathe.

So I broke out my Lincoln Welding "flip face mask" with the shatterproof shield I used to use to grind or cut meal and to weedwack with,and started wearing it. It allows me to breathe what I laughingly call "normally".

They now seem to be in such high demand there were none to be found in stock on amazon or ebay when I went to buy one as a gift for a friend,and had to order one and wait for it to come in. The few places on the web that still had any in stock were getting up to 50 percent over retail for the ones they were selling.

My welding mask would probably offer great protection from the Vid but I'm afraid I'd wander out into traffic & get hit by a car.
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2020, 09:22:50 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on July 30, 2020, 12:21:07 pm
As a safety health and enviromental manager  at petrochemical facility, we managed the use of PPE, and its requirements.  There were cases and needs to use face shields.  ALL require that subject be stationary, and remove periodically for self orientation.

You want people hurt? Watch a store load of people walking around with masks and fogged up face shields falling and hurting themselves. Do people think these things through?

@catfish1957

The ones used by professional welders/metal workers like mine have anti-fogging face shields. They are also shatter-proof.

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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2020, 09:28:30 am »
Quote from: LegalAmerican on July 30, 2020, 10:22:05 pm
Besides getting in your eyes, it can also, get into your ear canal.  We've had other flu's. This is over the top, and won't stop anything.  In OREGON, anyone black, does NOT have to wear a face mask, as it is discriminatory.  Then anyone with a medical condition, like needing oxygen, do not need to wear a mask.  Then anyone who RIOTS....does not need to worry about any mask, except to hide their identity.

@LegalAmerican

It's not that we don't WANT to wear a mask,it's the fact that we can't breath if we do that keeps us from wearing one.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2020, 09:32:36 am »
Oh look.... there's another "hearing" on Capitol Hilll on the virus ....

and guess who's front and center wearing a mask....

like the flaming hypocrite he is.....

cause there's a tv camera on him.

Live video....

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/coronavirus/virus-updates-us-cases-top-4-5-million-dr-fauci-to-testify-in-congress/2376132/
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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2020, 09:34:38 am »
Quote from: skeeter on July 31, 2020, 09:22:13 am
My welding mask would probably offer great protection from the Vid but I'm afraid I'd wander out into traffic & get hit by a car.

@skeeter

Uhhh,this is NOT a welding face plate. It is clear plastic,although you CAN get a tinted one for stuff like brazing with gas. Welders use this by wearing welding goggles UNDER it,and the face shield protects your face from sparks/slag. That's why it is rated as being shatterproof.

Still,you mostly see them being used by people grinding or operating milling machines or lathes in machine shops because they protect the face and eyes from flying shrapnel.

The Lincoln shield I own retails for right at 30 bucks in normal times,but I see them for sale at up to 50 bucks,plus shipping some places.

VERY comfortable with a padded headband,and you can adjust the shield to sit at any angle you want,and even flip it up to get it out of the way if you don't need it. I sometimes find myself forgetting I am even wearing it when the face shield is flipped up.
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2020, 09:38:21 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 30, 2020, 12:14:27 pm
First masks.  Then shields.  By November, the only thing that will protect you from catching covid will be a vote for Joe Biden.

Likely true.  If the Dems win,  they will own the economy they murdered.
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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2020, 09:40:00 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on July 31, 2020, 09:32:36 am
Oh look.... there's another "hearing" on Capitol Hilll on the virus ....

and guess who's front and center wearing a mask....

like the flaming hypocrite he is.....

cause there's a tv camera on him.

Gov. Cuomo unapologetically never wears a mask. Yet again he’s delaying opening up New York because...well, just because he can—because it could damage Trump.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2020, 09:48:34 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on July 31, 2020, 09:38:21 am
Likely true.  If the Dems win,  they will own the economy they murdered.

LOL!  And the country will come crawling back to Republicans in 2022....

(If the Rats "own" an economy, they'll deny it three times by the time the cock crows.  They take "ownership" of nothing.)
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« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2020, 09:56:01 am »
Quote from: aligncare on July 31, 2020, 09:40:00 am
Gov. Cuomo unapologetically never wears a mask. Yet again he’s delaying opening up New York because...well, just because he can—because it could damage Trump.

Yeah.   Today's "hearing" is just another opportunity for the DemocRats to 'bash Trump' on his handling of the stupid virus.   (blood pressure going up as we speak)
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2020, 10:09:04 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 09:34:38 am
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Uhhh,this is NOT a welding face plate. It is clear plastic,although you CAN get a tinted one for stuff like brazing with gas. Welders use this by wearing welding goggles UNDER it,and the face shield protects your face from sparks/slag. That's why it is rated as being shatterproof.

Still,you mostly see them being used by people grinding or operating milling machines or lathes in machine shops because they protect the face and eyes from flying shrapnel.

The Lincoln shield I own retails for right at 30 bucks in normal times,but I see them for sale at up to 50 bucks,plus shipping some places.

VERY comfortable with a padded headband,and you can adjust the shield to sit at any angle you want,and even flip it up to get it out of the way if you don't need it. I sometimes find myself forgetting I am even wearing it when the face shield is flipped up.
jk. In my area Chinese have been wearing tinted face shields in lieu of sunglasses for years. They're way ahead of the curve, apparently.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2020, 10:55:30 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on July 31, 2020, 09:38:21 am
Likely true.  If the Dems win,  they will own the economy they murdered.

@Jazzhead

So what?

There will be no one in office to criticize them or call them on it,and they will just happily continue to blame it on Trump.
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2020, 11:01:41 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 31, 2020, 09:28:30 am
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It's not that we don't WANT to wear a mask,it's the fact that we can't breath if we do that keeps us from wearing one.


Yes, I agree. I am one fo those who has low oxygen. I just got out of hospital and I run about 86.  They want it 90 & above, so I had to wear an oxygen line into the nose. I understand.  Some times, I take some deep breathes to get in more oxygen.  I can tell by looking at my lips.  If they run a little blue....I am low.  Then normally, if my heart is working properly, my lips are berry red.  Weird.  I could pass out, wearing a mask.   
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Re: Birx recommends face shields in addition to masks
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2020, 11:06:39 am »
Quote from: LegalAmerican on July 31, 2020, 11:01:41 am

Yes, I agree. I am one fo those who has low oxygen. I just got out of hospital and I run about 86.  They want it 90 & above, so I had to wear an oxygen line into the nose. I understand.  Some times, I take some deep breathes to get in more oxygen.  I can tell by looking at my lips.  If they run a little blue....I am low.  Then normally, if my heart is working properly, my lips are berry red.  Weird.  I could pass out, wearing a mask.

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"Pass out"?

You could literally die.
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