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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2020, 05:08:44 pm »
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Yeah, and look at what happened to the only guy who was. They crucified him.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2020, 05:09:59 pm »
Quote from: verga on July 12, 2020, 05:06:58 pm
Best movie ever: The Quiet man. Top Three westerns: Mcclintock, The Cowboys, Big Jake.
Yep. I liked The Quiet Man, too. The Cowboys was great as well.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2020, 05:27:34 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 05:09:59 pm
Yep. I liked The Quiet Man, too. The Cowboys was great as well.
Hell Fighters.....my favorite John Wayne movie.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2020, 05:33:49 pm »
Quote from: verga on July 12, 2020, 05:06:58 pm
Best movie ever: The Quiet man. Top Three westerns: Mcclintock, The Cowboys, Big Jake.

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It's not a movie,but the series "Lonesome Dove" is hard to beat. If you have never seen it,I can't recommend it too highly. Maybe the best thing I have ever seen,based on story-telling and acting.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2020, 05:41:58 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 12, 2020, 05:33:49 pm
@verga,all

It's not a movie,but the series "Lonesome Dove" is hard to beat. If you have never seen it,I can't recommend it too highly. Maybe the best thing I have ever seen,based on story-telling and acting.
Centennial was a good yarn, too.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2020, 05:48:45 pm »
I know I'm probably alone in this but I thought "Open Range" was great and so was "Dances with Wolves".
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2020, 05:55:15 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 12, 2020, 05:48:45 pm
I know I'm probably alone in this but I thought "Open Range" was great and so was "Dances with Wolves".

Open range is a great movie in the vein of the classic western. And Robert Duvall is one of the best actors alive.

Dances, too long.

But Unforgiven and Shane tie for best western. True Grit honorable mention.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2020, 05:56:07 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 12, 2020, 05:48:45 pm
I know I'm probably alone in this but I thought "Open Range" was great and so was "Dances with Wolves".

You're not alone.  Liked them both.  Also liked Silverado (again with Kevin Costner), but it was much lighter than a standard western.

There's one from the 70s called "My Name is Nobody" with Henry Fonda.  Great movie.


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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2020, 06:11:08 pm »
Another fairly recent one (1995) that I have probably watched two dozen times is "The Quick and the Dead" with Gene Hackman, Sharon Stone, Russell Crowe, Leonardo DiCaprio, Gary Sinise, and Keith David.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2020, 06:11:13 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on July 12, 2020, 05:27:34 pm
Hell Fighters.....my favorite John Wayne movie.
Jim Hutton did a great job in this one as well.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2020, 06:13:59 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 12, 2020, 05:48:45 pm
I know I'm probably alone in this but I thought "Open Range" was great and so was "Dances with Wolves".

I've seen "Dances with Wolves" several times.  One of my favorite movies! :beer:
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2020, 06:17:55 pm »
Quote from: verga on July 12, 2020, 06:11:13 pm
Jim Hutton did a great job in this one as well.
Hellfighters was impressive. I liked a lot of his WWII movies, too.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2020, 06:18:17 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 12, 2020, 05:33:49 pm
@verga,all

It's not a movie,but the series "Lonesome Dove" is hard to beat. If you have never seen it,I can't recommend it too highly. Maybe the best thing I have ever seen,based on story-telling and acting.

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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2020, 06:20:51 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 06:17:55 pm
Hellfighters was impressive. I liked a lot of his WWII movies, too.

Westerns and WWII movies are my favorites but I must confess to having a very hard sitting through the first 20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan". And the ending had me reaching for my hankie as well.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2020, 06:22:56 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 12, 2020, 06:20:51 pm
Westerns and WWII movies are my favorites but I must confess to having a very hard sitting through the first 20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan". And the ending had me reaching for my hankie as well.
As rough as that was, it was likely much worse on the beach.
 I remember a guy after a car accident I ran that beach scene reminded me of, and that was a bit rough.

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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2020, 06:30:30 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 06:22:56 pm
As rough as that was, it was likely much worse on the beach.
 I remember a guy after a car accident I ran that beach scene reminded me of, and that was a bit rough.
Use to li ve across the street from a guy that was there. One of the experiences that he refused to talk about. The only thing he ever said was that he was there.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2020, 06:31:11 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 06:22:56 pm
As rough as that was, it was likely much worse on the beach.


There is no doubt about it. Three of my mother's brothers went across that beach. Only one of them on D-Day and, strangely enough, he was the only one of the three to make it all the way to Berlin. The others were medevacked out and recovered from their wounds.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2020, 06:50:11 pm »
Joe wrote:
"How about Blazing Saddles?
Never be made today."

Better get ahold of a copy of that from the net.
Before too long it will be "scrubbed" from just about everywhere...
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2020, 07:23:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 12, 2020, 05:09:59 pm
Yep. I liked The Quiet Man, too. The Cowboys was great as well.
John Wayne made a few great movies but his biggest contribution, aside from being an unabashed Patriot, is that he made a ton of movies that were just flat out entertaining and enjoyable to watch. Movies like Donovan's Reef, Hatari, The War Wagon, The Undefeated, Rio Lobo and the interchangeable El Dorado, Big Jake on the light entertainment end as well as the dramatic war movies and others. John Wayne movies make maybe the largest single artists portion of my movie collection and I have hundreds.

Did he make some stinkers, oh yeah..........The Conquerer, Brannigan and McQ made rotten fish smell good.

I recently watched many interviews on YouTube with actors and others that worked with Wayne for years on many movies and aside from the extreme liberals like Kirk Douglas they all had universal respect for Wayne and especially his patriotism. What USC is doing is disgusting and if the Wayne family was still paying money into an endowment I would hope they tell USC where to stick it next time they come around with their hand out.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2020, 07:35:04 pm »
Quote from: GtHawk on July 12, 2020, 07:23:35 pm
John Wayne made a few great movies but his biggest contribution, aside from being an unabashed Patriot, is that he made a ton of movies that were just flat out entertaining and enjoyable to watch. Movies like Donovan's Reef, Hatari, The War Wagon, The Undefeated, Rio Lobo and the interchangeable El Dorado, Big Jake on the light entertainment end as well as the dramatic war movies and others. John Wayne movies make maybe the largest single artists portion of my movie collection and I have hundreds.

Did he make some stinkers, oh yeah..........The Conquerer, Brannigan and McQ made rotten fish smell good.

I recently watched many interviews on YouTube with actors and others that worked with Wayne for years on many movies and aside from the extreme liberals like Kirk Douglas they all had universal respect for Wayne and especially his patriotism. What USC is doing is disgusting and if the Wayne family was still paying money into an endowment I would hope they tell USC where to stick it next time they come around with their hand out.

John Wayne brings  to mind a lot of memories for me; my  Dad and I used to watch movies together on Saturday afternoons.  We'd snuggle up with a bowl of cheese popcorn and watch tv -- John Wayne was my favorite.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2020, 07:38:38 pm »
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IIRC,Kirk's family were Russian Jewish immigrants,and he was either a small child when they came here,or was born here right after they came.

These people seemed to have primarily been Communists of a different flavor than the Communists that won the Revolution,and they had to run for their lives with most of them only being able to escape with the clothes on their backs.

Almost everyone of them I have ever read or heard about were still Communists and only fled Russia because the brand of Communists that took over from  the Czar "weren't doing it right".  They and their children were mentioned prominently on McCarthy's List.
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2020, 07:53:49 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on July 12, 2020, 03:44:55 pm
McClintock! Is one of my favorites.

I love that one. Donavan's Reef is good too.

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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2020, 08:10:46 pm »
While they are at it, I'd bet there are a ton of places here in Texas that would love to add that exhibit to their museum.
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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2020, 08:34:54 pm »
IMHO the best John Wayne movie is "The Searchers". 
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Re: USC’s School of Cinematic Arts to Remove John Wayne Exhibit
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2020, 08:44:12 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 12, 2020, 08:34:54 pm
IMHO the best John Wayne movie is "The Searchers".

Picking a John Wayne Movie, is like picking an ice creme flavor, when there is 50 choices. 

I got to go with Liberty Valance.  Seeing John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, and Lee Marvin all standing within a few feet of each other in a scene is cinematic magic.  he he he....   I guess Van Cleef is the piker in this scene.

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