AOC: Public Safety Will Require ‘Experimentation’ After Defunding Police

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Kyle Olson9 Jul 20201,764
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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), who just won her primary with 72.5 percent of the vote, said Thursday that public safety will require “experimentation” after police departments are defunded.

“We can disagree about the details of it, but we can’t go back,” Ocasio-Cortez said during a virtual town hall.

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Rep. Ocasio-Cortez proves Democrats have no idea what would take the place of police after defunding.

She calls for “experimentation” with public safety, and to “even pass laws in the spirit of that experimentation”

“And this conversation— figuring out that path forward— as much as we want policy to be ‘I’m going to propose it, I’m going to have all of the answers’ and put a neat little bow and pass this one law once and everything is going to be fixed, that’s how we wish all of this stuff works, but what really it’s going to take it experimentation, and to ask, ‘What if?'” she said.

“And to even pass laws in the spirit of that experimentation, as well,” the socialist congresswoman said.

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[cato potatoe]

Are the US Capitol Police to be defunded first, as part of this experiment?  Give us a couple of years and let us know how it went.

[roamer_1]

That's called 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.

To tear down a vital system with no reasonable solution in reserve is beyond irresponsible.
It is downright stupid. Terror will reign in the streets.

[240B]

This is the same as the medieval Nobles who live in the defended castle, pulling troops from the peasant areas. Of course politicians and billionaires don't care about 'defunding the police'. They all have their own private police force. What happens to the peasants is not their problem. Which is why they are so willing to 'experiment'.

This will all lead directly to anarchy and chaos. And the people supporting this nutty idea know that full well. That is what they want. That is the goal.

[Hoodat]

How many black lives need to be lost before they are willing to admit that their experiment illustrates the need for police.

[240B]

How many black lives need to be lost before they are willing to admit that their experiment illustrates the need for police.

By then it will be too late. Most current police officers will be retired or in a different career. And after watching the Police being pummeled by the very politicians they work for and in all the media, who would be crazy enough to apply for the job?

Nope. I'm afraid it is up to us to defend ourselves from now on. I am preparing for that very situation. We joke about hiding a body, but if it came down to a situation where I had to kill a criminal in my home, I seriously doubt that I would report it only to be sued, also vilified in the press and social media.

Not sure what I would do with the body. Hope it doesn't ever come to that.

[roamer_1]

By then it will be too late. Most current police officers will be retired or in a different career. And after watching the Police being pummeled by the very politicians they work for and in all the media, who would be crazy enough to apply for the job?

Nope. I'm afraid it is up to us to defend ourselves from now on. I am preparing for that very situation. We joke about hiding a body, but if it came down to a situation where I had to kill a criminal in my home, I seriously doubt that I would report it only to be sued, also vilified in the press and social media.

Not sure what I would do with the body. Hope it doesn't ever come to that.

Sell what you got and be a pig farmer. 

[Smokin Joe]

What happened to "If it saves just one life"?

Stupid liberals tear down a building to reinvent the truss, and will eventually end up with either the same design (because that's what all that 'experimentation' led to in the first place, or something more akin to the Soviet model, or the Kempetai secret police which is more likely their goal.

This is like buying a new car because you had a flat tire.

[Hoodat]

or something more akin to the Soviet model, or the Kempetai secret police which is more likely their goal.

@Smokin Joe

Speaking of the Kempetai, have you watched the series 'The Man in the High Castle'?

[catfish1957]

I hope the criminals hit her abode first, and see how this experiment works out for her.

[catfish1957]

By then it will be too late. Most current police officers will be retired or in a different career. And after watching the Police being pummeled by the very politicians they work for and in all the media, who would be crazy enough to apply for the job?

Nope. I'm afraid it is up to us to defend ourselves from now on. I am preparing for that very situation. We joke about hiding a body, but if it came down to a situation where I had to kill a criminal in my home, I seriously doubt that I would report it only to be sued, also vilified in the press and social media.

Not sure what I would do with the body. Hope it doesn't ever come to that.

As the big cities get more lawless, I think the demand for law enforcement will increase significantly outside the war zone.  I see more hiring in that respect.
Big difference for the thug perps , will be that they will play by our politican and citizen's rules, not theirs.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Speaking of the Kempetai, have you watched the series 'The Man in the High Castle'?

Yes. If anything, any portrayal of the Kempetai on screen will be far milder than they actually were.

[txradioguy]

She calls for “experimentation” with public safety, and to “even pass laws in the spirit of that experimentation”

Lets conduct the "experiments" in Squeaky Spice's district.

[Smokin Joe]

Lets conduct the "experiments" in Squeaky Spice's district.

Right. No sense in universally promoting an untried model, let her turf be the test bed.

[berdie]

I hope the criminals hit her abode first, and see how this experiment works out for her.

My exact thought. It's not like the police aren't hampered enough by politics. Start your experiment with yourself...let me know how that works out.

[Fishrrman]

Hoodat wonders:
"How many black lives need to be lost before they are willing to admit that their experiment illustrates the need for police"

It doesn't matter -- is of no consequence to them.
In fact, the more black lives that are lost, the better.
Because... from their viewpoint, blacks are but cannon fodder for the communist insurgency.
The communists will NEVER give blacks any real power -- they are but tools to be used to attain the goal.

[sneakypete]

Hoodat wonders:
"How many black lives need to be lost before they are willing to admit that their experiment illustrates the need for police"

It doesn't matter -- is of no consequence to them.
In fact, the more black lives that are lost, the better.
Because... from their viewpoint, blacks are but cannon fodder for the communist insurgency.
The communists will NEVER give blacks any real power -- they are but tools to be used to attain the goal.

@Fishrrman
 
You know what? If the majority of the blacks are so stupid they believe the stuff their "leaders" are promoting,they DESERVE slavery. It is their natural level in the order of things. They are clearly too stupid to be taking care of themselves.

This includes their "Wannabe black white followers".

[Smokin Joe]

@Fishrrman
 
You know what? If the majority of the blacks are so stupid they believe the stuff their "leaders" are promoting,they DESERVE slavery. It is their natural level in the order of things. They are clearly too stupid to be taking care of themselves.

This includes their "Wannabe black white followers".

I wouldn't go so far as to say anyone deserves slavery, but it appears they are choosing it.

[roamer_1]

I wouldn't go so far as to say anyone deserves slavery, but it appears they are choosing it.

Yes, they truly are.

[Chosen Daughter]

That's called 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater'.

To tear down a vital system with no reasonable solution in reserve is beyond irresponsible.
It is downright stupid. Terror will reign in the streets.

Stay out of the city @roamer_1   I think liberals are going to get what they are asking for.  The destruction of their cities.  Here in Washington they want to defund police by 50%  Nobody is going to want a police job.  Nobody is going to want to visit Seattle.  It has already become the hellhole that everyone makes fun of and wouldn't step foot in.  When people's businesses start failing and there is nothing left I wonder if they will even admit they  have destroyed Seattle Washington.  What a shame.  And where are they going to get their money then?

Trump started this with First Act.  BLM Kanye West wanting prisoners set free.  He is as guilty as the rest of the liberals.

[roamer_1]

Stay out of the city @roamer_1 

That's a fair bet on any given day, darlin. Heck you could say 'stay out of town', and I'd only cross that up once or maybe twice a month - And it's only a mile off.

The last time I was in a city was Salt Lake City, for emergency care for my daughter, going on 25 years ago... And the time before that was either Chicago or KC, depending on which way I went first, and that was to show off my new wife to the folks, maybe 30 years ago. City ain't ever where I am.

But you and yours... I reckon you should highly consider moving east.

[Chosen Daughter]

That's a fair bet on any given day, darlin. Heck you could say 'stay out of town', and I'd only cross that up once or maybe twice a month - And it's only a mile off.

The last time I was in a city was Salt Lake City, for emergency care for my daughter, going on 25 years ago... And the time before that was either Chicago or KC, depending on which way I went first, and that was to show off my new wife to the folks, maybe 30 years ago. City ain't ever where I am.

But you and yours... I reckon you should highly consider moving east.

I already have my eyes set on retirement destination.  Far from the city.

[roamer_1]

I already have my eyes set on retirement destination.  Far from the city.

Close enough to come sit on my porch for tea? Aw NM... A year or two and I will be so far back up in the holler you'd need a horse to get there. 

[Chosen Daughter]

Close enough to come sit on my porch for tea? Aw NM... A year or two and I will be so far back up in the holler you'd need a horse to get there. 

Probably not.   

[Chosen Daughter]

National defense is the only mandatory function of the national government. Most of the powers granted to Congress are permissive in nature. Congress is given certain authorities but not required by the Constitution to exercise them. For example, Article One, Section Eight gives Congress power to pass a bankruptcy code, but Congress actually did not enact bankruptcy laws until well into the 19th century.

But the Constitution does require the federal government to protect the nation. Article Four, Section Four states that the “United States shall guarantee to every State a republican form of government and shall protect each of them against invasion.” In other words, even if the federal government chose to exercise no other power, it must, under the Constitution, provide for the common defense.

https://www.heritage.org/defense/report/constitutional-basis-defense