Aunt Jemima to remove image from packaging and rename brand

[Cyber Liberty]

What's funny about this is, the Quaker OWNS Aunt Jemima in real life!

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Trying to appease people stricken with group-racial psychosis or some form of societal sickness, may require extraordinary effort. Or, it just might take a charismatic figure from the African American community, maybe a national figure from politics or entertainment, sports or academics, to come along and be like the anti-Obama. Someone who can grab these folks by the collar and talk some sense, shake them out of this disease in their souls.

Or maybe it’s just the wine talking. I don’t know.

[corbe]

Johnson & Johnson drops skin-whitening creams

Martinne Geller
Reuters June 19, 2020

LONDON (Reuters) - Johnson & Johnson has decided to stop selling skin-whitening creams popular in Asia and the Middle East, it said on Friday, after such products have come under renewed social pressure in recent weeks amid a global debate about racial inequality.

Johnson & Johnson will stop selling its Clean & Clear Fairness line of products, sold in India, a spokeswoman told Reuters. It was reported earlier this month that it would drop its Neutrogena Fine Fairness line, available in Asia and the Middle East.

"Conversations over the past few weeks highlighted that some product names or claims on our dark spot reducer products represent fairness or white as better than your own unique skin tone," Johnson & Johnson said. "This was never our intention – healthy skin is beautiful skin."

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/johnson-johnson-drops-skin-whitening-133946010.html

[mountaineer]

I still don't understand eliminating Mrs. Butterworth, the grandmotherly white woman of syrup renown. 

[libertybele]

Johnson & Johnson drops skin-whitening creams

Martinne Geller
Reuters June 19, 2020

LONDON (Reuters) - Johnson & Johnson has decided to stop selling skin-whitening creams popular in Asia and the Middle East, it said on Friday, after such products have come under renewed social pressure in recent weeks amid a global debate about racial inequality.

Johnson & Johnson will stop selling its Clean & Clear Fairness line of products, sold in India, a spokeswoman told Reuters. It was reported earlier this month that it would drop its Neutrogena Fine Fairness line, available in Asia and the Middle East.

"Conversations over the past few weeks highlighted that some product names or claims on our dark spot reducer products represent fairness or white as better than your own unique skin tone," Johnson & Johnson said. "This was never our intention – healthy skin is beautiful skin."

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/johnson-johnson-drops-skin-whitening-133946010.html

If only Michael Jackson could weigh in on this .... 

[mountaineer]

If only Michael Jackson could weigh in on this .... 

Or Sammy Sosa.

[libertybele]

Sorry folks ... this cartoon popped into my head ... (my favorite Tom & Jerry cartoon)



www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYkJ0M1bUIU

[Cyber Liberty]

Sorry folks ... this cartoon popped into my head ... (my favorite Tom & Jerry cartoon)



www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYkJ0M1bUIU

That one is one of my faves.  I liked the Zoot Suit one, too.


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[bigheadfred]

Trying to appease people stricken with group-racial psychosis or some form of societal sickness, may require extraordinary effort. Or, it just might take a charismatic figure from the African American community, maybe a national figure from politics or entertainment, sports or academics, to come along and be like the anti-Obama. Someone who can grab these folks by the collar and talk some sense, shake them out of this disease in their souls.

Or maybe it’s just the wine talking. I don’t know.

They are pushing this way past the political spectrum.

I am going to tell you a secret by shouting it out loud.

HE has always been here.

[sneakypete]

I still don't understand eliminating Mrs. Butterworth, the grandmotherly white woman of syrup renown. 

@mountaineer

I truthfully don't understand any of it. Corporations are throwing away trademarks that are in some cases over 50 years old,and worth millions when it comes to brand recognition and sales. Start up corporations would give their left nut to gain even a fraction of that brand recognition,and here are people setting fire to it with no reward in sight.

Corporations exist SOLELY to return profits to their investors,yet here are Corporations throwing away millions of dollars in revenue to be PC,and nobody seems to care.

All to please people who,for the most part are at the bottom of the purchase chain,and if it weren't for food stamps and welfare or drug dealing/pimping,would starve to death if they didn't eat each other.

And our entire media seems to be treating these retards like they are some sort of wise sages or Holy Men,come to Earth to save us all.

On top of that,we have a senile retard that is also a child molester and a felon running for President as the candidate of one of our two major parties,and nobody in the news media seems to think any of that is worth mentioning. Just ONCE,I would love to see some reporter ask Jimmy Kimmel or one of the other political sages if they would be willing to let Slow Joe baby sit their minor children,or trust him with their checkbook or credit card.

I have gone from dreading the reality of a revolution,to convinced the country won't survive if we DON'T have one.

To quote that famous philosopher Goober Gore,"Whut is spossta be up is doawn,and ....drool break....,whut iz spossata be doawn iz up!"

[mountaineer]

I truthfully don't understand any of it. Corporations are throwing away trademarks that are in some cases over 50 years old,and worth millions when it comes to brand recognition and sales. Start up corporations would give their left nut to gain even a fraction of that brand recognition,and here are people setting fire to it with no reward in sight.

From now on, the only permissible product labels look like these:

NO cartoon characters, animals, human faces, please!!

[corbe]

[Cyber Liberty]

From now on, the only permissible product labels look like these:

NO cartoon characters, animals, human faces, please!!

Back in the 70's, when I lived in Kalamazoo, MI, I shopped at Jewel grocery, and this is what their "generics" looked like:

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@Cyber Liberty

Democrats revel in identity politics; we’re supposed to “see” race—no color blind interactions tolerated or you are “branded” racist. But now in the most advanced consumer nation on earth they want generic sameness—no branding. I wish they’d make up their mind.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Democrats revel in identity politics; we’re supposed to “see” race—no color blind interactions tolerated or you are “branded” racist. But now in the most advanced consumer nation on earth they want generic sameness—no branding. I wish they’d make up their mind.

There is a reason branded products look like they do, and the market will reassert itself when the shit blows over.

[mountaineer]

Sorry folks ... this cartoon popped into my head ... (my favorite Tom & Jerry cartoon)

I have the sheet music to "Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby." Come on over for a singalong!

[mountaineer]

Mo Mo  @molratty
We could have school choice and get rid of public sector unions like police and teachers, but no, let's just rename products and call it a day.
9:23 PM · Jun 19, 2020

I don't care about them renaming the products at all. But can we please stop pretending we are serious with this empty gestures.
How does this help?
Who does this help?

Those are the questions. If the answers are "not in any measurable way" and "mainly the person taking the action" then the gesture is usually going to be useless and empty.

https://twitter.com/molratty

[roamer_1]

Back in the 70's, when I lived in Kalamazoo, MI, I shopped at Jewel grocery, and this is what their "generics" looked like:

Yeah, that black and white stuff was up here too... I remember that

[Gefn]

Eskimo Pies to drop ‘derogatory’ name over racial insensitivity

The maker of Eskimo Pies will change the 99-year-old brand name of the ice cream treat, the company said Friday — becoming the latest organization to overhaul the marketing of a product with a racially tinged moniker in recent weeks.

The owner of the Eskimo Pie, Dreyer’s Grand Ice Cream, said in a statement they had been considering renaming the chocolate-covered ice cream bar and popsicle for some time.

“We are committed to being a part of the solution on racial equality, and recognize the term is derogatory,” the company’s head of marketing said in a statement.

“This move is part of a larger review to ensure our company and brands reflect our people values,” the company added.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/19/eskimo-pies-to-drop-derogatory-name-over-racial-insensitivity/

[roamer_1]

There is a reason branded products look like they do, and the market will reassert itself when the shit blows over.

Yeah, it's in marketing DNA. But that these ancient proud brands are to be torn down just baffles me.

But I don't know how much any of that marketing crap works, anyway... I think the symbols do. The things that make an item unique and identifiable in order to be picked...

I am partial to Betty Crocker... Nothing at all against Duncan Hines or the others, whoever and whatever they are. I don't care to try them out - I have always had a good time with ol Betty, and you can bet the if I am in the baking aisle, I am looking for a red box, and that Betty Crocker signature.

Now, do all their commercials and specials and couponing, and everything they do matter in welding me to that product? Yes, very probably. Brand recognition is very likely what caused me to try that brand at the first moment of decision. But that's all. the rest is a loyalty born of normalcy. As long as ol Betty works for me, I will keep using it... entirely.  All they can do to mess that up is crank the price enough or mess up the product expectation enough to cause me to look for otherwise.

But it is the symbolism that causes me to FIND ol betty on the shelf.  THAT is what they are messing with... If I were into prepared pancake stuff, three things are in my mind... Bisquick, Aunt Jamima, and Mrs. Butterworth... I know what all those look like and could find them on the shelf. Their brands would likely be held higher in my decision making, because I know them.

Not that I do, mind you - I think there may be an old box of Bisquick in the house, but none of the rest are here. Like any redneck boy, I scratch build pancakes, and being as close as I am to Canada, of course my tastes run toward REAL maple syrup, and will have no other.

But altering that brand is just crazy. They are top names in their field BECAUSE of those brands. How will people find them afterward?

[roamer_1]

Eskimo Pies to drop ‘derogatory’ name over racial insensitivity


https://nypost.com/2020/06/19/eskimo-pies-to-drop-derogatory-name-over-racial-insensitivity/

What is really hilarious in that is that the name 'Inuit' is another group name - just like Eskimo... And does not displace Eskimo-Aleut at all. Just a subgouping under that heading, and I know enough about Alaska to know that natives ain't any more fond of being grouped into 'Inuit' than they are into 'Eskimo'.

Around here, you'd better know the tribe your native friend comes from, not the confederation.

[Smokin Joe]

What is really hilarious in that is that the name 'Inuit' is another group name - just like Eskimo... And does not displace Eskimo-Aleut at all. Just a subgouping under that heading, and I know enough about Alaska to know that natives ain't any more fond of being grouped into 'Inuit' than they are into 'Eskimo'.

Around here, you'd better know the tribe your native friend comes from, not the confederation.

Like Sioux, or Iroquois, there were many distinct tribes, and those formed by distinct bands....

(Interesting no one ever mentions the Iroquois Confederation and The Great Law of Peace in the origins of our own government, even though that Federation lasted for some 200 years.)

[DB]

French bread next?

[Cyber Liberty]

French bread next?

Naw.  It's OK to appropriate Europeans' culture.  They're evil "Ice People."

[roamer_1]

Like Sioux, or Iroquois, there were many distinct tribes, and those formed by distinct bands....

(Interesting no one ever mentions the Iroquois Confederation and The Great Law of Peace in the origins of our own government, even though that Federation lasted for some 200 years.)

Right... Around here, the Salish are the Bitterroot Salish, Kootenai, and Upper Pend 'Orielle... But the greater Salish Nation historically was a much greater confederation that covered most of western MT, upper Idaho, eastern Washington, and stretches far into Alberta and British Columbia, and contained many other tribes...

Interesting thing about the Iroquois... The Salish had a prophet back in the day named Shining Shirt who had a dream that was later confirmed in talking to the Iroquios about the coming of the whites and particularly the Jesuits.

Now, I don't know how that all stretches out. But the Iroquois were talking to the Salish, way out here in the Rockies. Some day I will take the time to track that down.

[Smokin Joe]

Right... Around here, the Salish are the Bitterroot Salish, Kootenai, and Upper Pend 'Orielle... But the greater Salish Nation historically was a much greater confederation that covered most of western MT, upper Idaho, eastern Washington, and stretches far into Alberta and British Columbia, and contained many other tribes...

Interesting thing about the Iroquois... The Salish had a prophet back in the day named Shining Shirt who had a dream that was later confirmed in talking to the Iroquios about the coming of the whites and particularly the Jesuits.

Now, I don't know how that all stretches out. But the Iroquois were talking to the Salish, way out here in the Rockies. Some day I will take the time to track that down.

Traveling salesmen....Trade routes were far more developed than people seem to think, even though the evidence is out there. If Mica, Abalone, copper all ended up in Illinois (Cahokia) the scope of cultural and material exchange is far greater than many have been willing to give credit.
It is also one reason why a single case of smallpox could lead to an epidemic that could travel a continent.

[roamer_1]

Like Sioux, or Iroquois, there were many distinct tribes, and those formed by distinct bands....

(Interesting no one ever mentions the Iroquois Confederation and The Great Law of Peace in the origins of our own government, even though that Federation lasted for some 200 years.)

By the way, Smoke... We should sit on the porch some day and go around about the Iroquois and their very probable Caucasian roots, likely Celtic for the similarity of the Great Law of Peace with the ancient Celtic Common Law...

Jussayin 

[Smokin Joe]

By the way, Smoke... We should sit on the porch some day and go around about the Iroquois and their very probable Caucasian roots, likely Celtic for the similarity of the Great Law of Peace with the ancient Celtic Common Law...

Jussayin 

Now, that would be fun. 

[roamer_1]

Traveling salesmen....Trade routes were far more developed than people seem to think, even though the evidence is out there. If Mica, Abalone, copper all ended up in Illinois (Cahokia) the scope of cultural and material exchange is far greater than many have been willing to give credit.
It is also one reason why a single case of smallpox could lead to an epidemic that could travel a continent.

Something like that... I know the Gros Ventre (Ft Bellknap rez) were Algonquin way, way back, coming this way and splitting into the Arapaho and Gros Ventre along the way... Basically saying that being Algonquin in descent  puts em rubbing shoulders with the Iroquois back in the day... and as Gros Ventre, tight with the Cheyenne,  puts them between the Platte and the Saskatchewan, pretty much across the hump from the Salish...

 Stranger things... 

[truth_seeker]

Branding probably meant more a few decades back in time.

But it still does, in many product lines.

Apple. They get premium prices.

Maybe in plenty of other products, too.

We will see.

People can remember good, and bad. How will Seattle rourism fare?

Visit the burned out zone. See the graffitti.

Stand where Antifa stood.

Stand where Washington's statue once stood.

[bigheadfred]

By the way, Smoke... We should sit on the porch some day and go around about the Iroquois and their very probable Caucasian roots, likely Celtic for the similarity of the Great Law of Peace with the ancient Celtic Common Law...

Jussayin 

@Smokin Joe

Seems like Celtic or Viking influence was here before Columbus.

Perhaps the Phoenicians earlier. But I think there was a worldwide civilization, pre flood.

Cortez was greeted treated as a god.

[sneakypete]

But altering that brand is just crazy. They are top names in their field BECAUSE of those brands. How will people find them afterward?

@roamer_1

You will not be looking for them in the near future,because you will be standing in line for your rations,just like everyone else,and you WILL take what they give you or starve.

You didn't REALLY think the left only wanted a political monopoly,did you?

You WILL eat the goobermint food in the plain brown wrapper,and you WILL like it!

Of course,just like Moscow back in the "Good Old Days" of the GUM Department store where only party officials and their families could shop,there will be special stores where the elite can still shop and buy quality foods and other items.

Ain't all this "all the equality we think you need" stuff fun?

[sneakypete]

Like Sioux, or Iroquois, there were many distinct tribes,

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@Smokin Joe

And just like back then,almost none of the "new" tribes will like or trust each other,and will do their damnedest to raid each other to capture females to keep the blood in their tribe from "going stale".

You might say it was the Indian "Summer Games".

[sneakypete]

Something like that... I know the Gros Ventre (Ft Bellknap rez) were Algonquin way, way back, coming this way and splitting into the Arapaho and Gros Ventre along the way... Basically saying that being Algonquin in descent  puts em rubbing shoulders with the Iroquois back in the day... and as Gros Ventre, tight with the Cheyenne,  puts them between the Platte and the Saskatchewan, pretty much across the hump from the Salish...

 Stranger things... 

@roamer_1

Not to mention the blood from the young females and children stolen from one another during their annual "Spring Olympics". Once they captured a female or a child from another tribe,that female or child was considered to be one of them,and nobody paid much attention to what was before.

[roamer_1]

Seems like Celtic or Viking influence was here before Columbus.

Perhaps the Phoenicians earlier. But I think there was a worldwide civilization, pre flood.

Cortez was greeted treated as a god.

Yes, something was certainly lost. I think the Dark Ages were more the reset... I think prior to then, the whole world was known...  Sumer is post-deluvian,  and sumerian artifacts are found in mexico and chile. Hebrew and celtic writing are found throughout North America.

I think history had been purposefully altered to lean toward where science says it should go.
Sweeping the abnormalities under the rug... That's where I like it... Under that rug.  Out of Place Artifacts tell the true tale.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

Not to mention the blood from the young females and children stolen from one another during their annual "Spring Olympics". Once they captured a female or a child from another tribe,that female or child was considered to be one of them,and nobody paid much attention to what was before.

Yes, but no, @sneakypete ... There was business... Alliances, trade, law.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Seems like Celtic or Viking influence was here before Columbus.

Perhaps the Phoenicians earlier. But I think there was a worldwide civilization, pre flood.

Cortez was greeted treated as a god.

I think it is easy to underestimate the amount of interaction of people on a global scale when Darwinism blinds you to the idea that any others might have done things before you that only you, according to that theory of evolution, as the highest developed beings on the planet, could have just recently done.
The amazing part is that the meetings of the past were preserved in the culture at all, even enough to make such an error. 
If you abandon the teachings of the past, a story told in relics and stones, in earthworks, and artifacts, you are free to ignore it, and even ascribe the accomplishments of those who died out so long ago you can't read their language to space aliens and the like.
Archaeology has been ever hobbled by Darwin, by the circular reasoning which says previous civilizations couldn't have done that because they were old and primitive. That and other dogmas have been sufficient to destroy the most valuable of those civilizations' writings, from the library at Alexandria to the Mayan Codices.
If we read A Canticle for Leibowitz or simply ponder what would remain of our culture in 5,000 or 10,000 years of erosion and geological wastage, maybe we begin to be humbled by the thought that those who came before us may have been far more capable than we imagined.

Trade, no matter the means of travel, motivated by profit and knowing what and even who was over the next hill, is as ever present in the intrepid human nature as the desires of some to have and stay at their secure homes.  But despite the risks, he who returns with exotic goods and tales to tell returns to the rewards of a conquering hero, or the threat of torture and destruction for the heresy of relating that which he has seen by those who have not.

So has it always been.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

And just like back then,almost none of the "new" tribes will like or trust each other,and will do their damnedest to raid each other to capture females to keep the blood in their tribe from "going stale".

You might say it was the Indian "Summer Games".

Yep. That and 'tipi creeping'.

[Smokin Joe]

@roamer_1

Not to mention the blood from the young females and children stolen from one another during their annual "Spring Olympics". Once they captured a female or a child from another tribe,that female or child was considered to be one of them,and nobody paid much attention to what was before.

Captives had to prove their worth to become part of the tribe. Fail in that and the outcome would be slavery or death.

[sneakypete]

Yes, but no, @sneakypete ... There was business... Alliances, trade, law.

@roamer_1

Depends on the tribe and the time. Tribes like the Cherokee were pretty open to trade,the Apache and Comanche,not so much.

[sneakypete]

Captives had to prove their worth to become part of the tribe. Fail in that and the outcome would be slavery or death.

@Smokin Joe

I'm sure that was a real struggle for the young maidens hot enough to capture and bring back home.

And,of course,her children were full tribal members at birth.