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Atlanta police chief steps down after fatal shooting near Wendy's drive-thru
By Kaelan Deese - 06/13/20 06:02 PM EDT

Atlanta Police Chief Ericka Shields voluntarily stepped down from the city's department Saturday afternoon following the deadly shooting of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks Friday night outside of a Wendy's drive-thru.

Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms announced Shields' withdrawal from the department during a press conference Saturday, while also calling for the "immediate termination" of the officer who shot Brooks.

"Chief Ericka Shields has been a solid member of APD for over two decades and has a deep and abiding love for the people of Atlanta. And because of her desire that Atlanta should be a meaningful model of what reform should look like across this country, Chief Shields has offered to immediately step aside as police chief so that the city may move forward with urgency in rebuilding the trust so desperately needed throughout our communities."

This is a developing story.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/502617-atlanta-police-chief-steps-down-after-fatal-shooting-in-wendys-drive
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Georgia NAACP calls for resignation of Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields after police shooting




By: WSBTV.com News Staff
Updated: June 13, 2020 - 4:31 PM

ATLANATA — The Georgia NAACP has called for the immediate resignation of Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields the morning after a black man was killed in a confrontation with Atlanta Police.

Rayshard Brooks was killed outside a Wendy’s Friday night after police investigated him for sleeping in a car. Brooks and police got into a scuffle in which Brooks apparently got one of the officer’s Tasers, the GBI said.

GBI Director Vic Reynolds said it appears the Brooks ran from the officers, but then turned back around and pointed the Taser at them before officers shot him.

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Rayshard Brooks is the next BLM saint/hero.... 888mouth
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Atlanta Wendy's where Rayshard Brooks was fatally shot by police burned down
By J. Edward Moreno - 06/13/20 11:28 PM EDT

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Well... all I can say is.... if you are or identify as "white"... and if you were not already "wacist"...

you probably will be before this anti-whitey-police idiocy is old news.

Personally... I'm getting really tired of seeing black thugs resisting arrest, running from police, attacking the cops trying to arrest them, and then getting cannonized for having been "stopped" by police.   This is the literal definition of madness.  And I admit...I'm getting pretty mad.... 9999hair out0000
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Chaos in Atlanta as Rioters Block Highway, Set Fires in Protest of Officer-Involved Shooting Death of Black Man

Hannah Bleau 13 Jun 2020

Chaos erupted in Atlanta on Saturday evening following the death of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks, who was fatally shot by police following an incident in a Wendy’s parking lot on Friday.

According to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, authorities on Friday responded to a complaint of a male in a vehicle “parked in the drive thru asleep, causing other customers to drive around the vehicle.” Authorities had the man perform a field sobriety test, which he failed. Thereafter, officers tried to take the man into custody, but he “resisted and a struggle ensued,” causing an officer to deploy a taser, which the male subject “grabbed and was in possession of.”

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Well... all I can say is.... if you are or identify as "white"... and if you were not already "wacist"...

you probably will be before this anti-whitey-police idiocy is old news.

Personally... I'm getting really tired of seeing black thugs resisting arrest, running from police, attacking the cops trying to arrest them, and then getting cannonized for having been "stopped" by police.   This is the literal definition of madness.  And I admit...I'm getting pretty mad.... 9999hair out0000

We'd better get used to it - this show is gonna run all the way to November.

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We'd better get used to it - this show is gonna run all the way to November.

That... plus one end result the idiot left is hoping for is.... that cops will be too afraid to even bother trying to stop a perp if he happens to have "dark or black skin".   Only whiteys will be arrested in their utopia, dontcha know.
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That... plus one end result the idiot left is hoping for is.... that cops will be too afraid to even bother trying to stop a perp if he happens to have "dark or black skin".   Only whiteys will be arrested in their utopia, dontcha know.

Yet once the progressives are in total charge they'll be shooting em down in the streets for loitering and sleeping like babies.

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Wendy’s Donated $500k to Black Causes, Pledged to Amplify ‘Black Voices’

Joel B. Pollak 14 Jun 2020

Wendy’s announced earlier this month that it would donate $500,000 to help the black community and promised “to amplify Black voices” on its Twitter account — before being targeted by rioters in Atlanta, Georgia on Saturday night.

Protests erupted in outrage over the shooting death of 27-year-old Rayshard Brooks, who was killed in a confrontation with police Friday in the parking lot of a Wendy’s. Brooks allegedly resisted arrest and took an officer’s taser as he fled.

Earlier this month, Wendy’s had backed the Black Lives Matter movement that mobilized after the killing of George Floyd, a 46-year-old African American man, in police custody in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Wendy’s joined many other corporations in making large donations to organizations and voicing its support for the movement on social media.

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Atlanta police release bodycam video leading up to death of Rayshard Brooks


This screengrab taken from body camera video provided by the Atlanta Police Department shows Rayshard Brooks speaking with Officer Garrett Rolfe in the parking lot of a Wendy's restaurant, late Friday, June 12, 2020, in Atlanta.(Atlanta Police Department via AP)


This screen grab taken from dashboard camera video provided by the Atlanta Police Department shows Rayshard Brooks, center, struggling with Officers Garrett Rolfe, left, and Devin Brosnan in the parking lot of a Wendy's restaurant, early Saturday, June 13, 2020, in Atlanta. (Atlanta Police Department via AP)

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The police need better training, better options, etc.

It is not merely black lives. It is lives coming into contact, with police.

More whites and Hispanics are killed, in similar situations.

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Georgia NAACP calls for resignation of Atlanta Police Chief Erika Shields after police shooting






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How the hell did a white woman get the top slot in the Atlanta PD?????

I could have sworn I saw and heard a black Atlanta Chief on one of the talking head shows today.

Was I wrong?
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Atlanta officer fired after fatal shooting of Rayshard Brooks
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Well,he should have been fired,not to mention arrested for murder. There is no way in hell was that a justified shoot.
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Atlanta police release bodycam video leading up to death of Rayshard Brooks
 

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Good thing they didn't put one of those "deadly choke holds" on him that would have caused him to pretty much immediately go unconscious,huh?
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Brooks had grabbed an officer's Taser and just before being shot had pointed it at the officer who shot him. That was a justified shooting.
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Well,he should have been fired,not to mention arrested for murder. There is no way in hell was that a justified shoot.

I am loath to second guess cops until all the after action investigations are completed.

We owe police officers that much.

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The police need better training, better options, etc.

It is not merely black lives. It is lives coming into contact, with police.

More whites and Hispanics are killed, in similar situations.

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The guy was bigger and stronger than either cop,full of adrenaline,and on drugs.

Pretty hard to subdue someone like that while following the current rules.

The safest thing to have done was hit him with the stun gun,but that can't be done anymore unless he is resisting arrest,and the other cop couldn't do it at the beginning because he wasn't resisting. By the time he was resisting,he couldn't do it without also zapping the cop that was wrestling with him.

Still,there was no justification for shooting him. They had his car,his ID,and they knew where he lived. The worse that would have happened was it would have taken them a few days to arrest him.
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PART ONE: @BernardKerik and @dbongino are here to discuss the latest on the Atlanta shooting and more protests in America over the death of George Floyd.

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PART TWO: @BernardKerik and @dbongino are here to discuss the latest on the Atlanta shooting and more protests in America over the death of George Floyd.

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Brooks had grabbed an officer's Taser and just before being shot had pointed it at the officer who shot him. That was a justified shooting.

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HOW was it justified? The guy was running away,and wasn't even pointing a lethal weapon at him.

It is only a justified shooting when you shoot because either your life,or the life of others are at immediate risk if you don't.

Nobody's life was at immediate risk,so it wasn't justified.
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1. I am looking at the same videos as everyone else. First, this looks nothing like the George Floyd case, which was an obvious killing. Mr. Floyd was on the ground, face down, handcuffed, pleading for his life. The Rayshard Brooks situation is nothing like that.

2. Although more information will become available, when I first heard Mr. Brooks's lawyers at about 9 PM eastern last night, I concluded a man was shot in the back while fleeing. But the publicly available videos tell a different and more complete story.

3. It looks from the videos like Mr. Brooks resisted being handcuffed, assaulted the police officers (punched one of them), and then turned and aimed the taser at the pursuing officer as Mr. Brooks was fleeing, which he’d forcibly taken from one of the officers.

4. I don't know if the officers followed protocol . But I do know this is why we have a justice system -- with a real court, a real discovery process, and lawyers, to gather the facts and pursue the truth.

5. And we should wait for all the facts to come out here, not the kind of narrative I heard last night from the lawyers, and not just selected video of Mr. Brooks fleeing the scene without any context -- which we are seeing over and over again on cable TV today .

6. Meanwhile, a lawless crowd burned down the Wendy's restaurant, which had nothing to do with the confrontation. The police chief resigned. And the officer who discharged his weapon was fired.

As an aside, all of us know that when an officer stops you, you cooperate.

7. You certainly don't resist arrest. And you certainly don't assault the officer and seize one of his weapons. The officer doesn't know you. He doesn't know if you're dangerous to him or others.


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I am loath to second guess cops until all the after action investigations are completed.

We owe police officers that much.

The angry mobs won’t wait.

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You can clearly see that he is running away in the video,and the only gun he is pointing at the officer is the officer's own yellow stun gun,which is NOT lethal.

It was clearly not a justified shooting.
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What we DO know is he was pointing the officers own yellow stun gun at him,and the officer HAD to know his own stun gun wasn't lethal.

Which means no one's life was at risk,making it a crime instead of a legal shooting.

 
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Well... all I can say is.... if you are or identify as "white"... and if you were not already "wacist"...

you probably will be before this anti-whitey-police idiocy is old news.

Personally... I'm getting really tired of seeing black thugs resisting arrest, running from police, attacking the cops trying to arrest them, and then getting cannonized for having been "stopped" by police.   This is the literal definition of madness. 

And I admit...I'm getting pretty mad.... 9999hair out0000

MeeToo.  I'm pissed that nobody ever seems to care about what leads up to these events.  I've been stopped, I've been arrested and it never, ever occurred to me to run away or turn and start fighting a cop with my fists (even while drunk).  It's just not in my calculus, and that appears to be a different operating paradigm than what these shooting "victims" have.
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BTW,can anyone tell me what kind of drugs he was on that would allow him to pass out in the drive through,and then wake up and fight two cops off,take a stun gun from one,and try to run away?

I know I have never heard of a drug like that.
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BTW,can anyone tell me what kind of drugs he was on that would allow him to pass out in the drive through,and then wake up and fight two cops off,take a stun gun from one,and try to run away?

I know I have never heard of a drug like that.

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Since you mention that, I'd like to see the toxicology report when it comes out.  That guy in Minnesota's report was interesting, because it's hard to imagine a drug he didn't have in his system.
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Good exploration of events.

(By the way, the reporting around police involved shootings is becoming like Covid-19 now; every local incident becomes national news instantly and contributes fuel to anti-police fear and may escalate hate and potential negative citizen confrontations with police endangering all involved.)

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Well... all I can say is.... if you are or identify as "white"... and if you were not already "wacist"...

you probably will be before this anti-whitey-police idiocy is old news.

Personally... I'm getting really tired of seeing black thugs resisting arrest, running from police, attacking the cops trying to arrest them, and then getting cannonized for having been "stopped" by police.   This is the literal definition of madness.  And I admit...I'm getting pretty mad.... 9999hair out0000

As long as there is a racism, nothing will get resolved.  Accusing people of being racists when they aren't only creates the opportunity for racism to spread.

We have a local organic farmer who also hosts entertainment; primarily country & western.  The owner called the BLM movement a hoax and stated that "All Lives Matter" and held an event ... large protests are now under way surrounding his business. He is now labeled a racist. Go figure.  How is saying "all lives matter" racist??

So it's All Lives Matter v. Black Lives Matter, but the people who are promoting for all life, are the racists! You are correct, if you weren't racist before, that door is definitely swinging wide open.

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You can clearly see that he is running away in the video,and the only gun he is pointing at the officer is the officer's own yellow stun gun,which is NOT lethal.

It was clearly not a justified shooting.

As Bongino and Kerick noted in the interview with Pirro above, tasing a police officer opens the possibility the incapacitated officer will have his gun taken and used against him. Even though it is “only” a taser it is still a deadly force situation nonetheless. And the officer is justified in treating it as such and may use deadly force in response.
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What we DO know is he was pointing the officers own yellow stun gun at him,and the officer HAD to know his own stun gun wasn't lethal.

Which means no one's life was at risk,making it a crime instead of a legal shooting.

We know no such thing @sneakypete   Had the perp incapacitated (not killed) the cop, he could have taken his gun --- and then we could have had a situation no one would have heard about....just another dead cop, or two if the perp got really lucky.

Part of a cop protecting his or her life is protecting his or her gun. 

Don't resist arrest.  Don't punch the cop.  Don't take any of the cop's weapons  --- and if you do, in the name of God don't point to shoot him with it.

Maybe this should be painted in 20 foot letters on city streets.




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As long as there is a racism, nothing will get resolved.  Accusing people of being racists when they aren't only creates the opportunity for racism to spread.

We have a local organic farmer who also hosts entertainment; primarily country & western.  The owner called the BLM movement a hoax and stated that "All Lives Matter" and held an event ... large protests are now under way surrounding his business. He is now labeled a racist. Go figure.  How is saying "all lives matter" racist??

So it's All Lives Matter v. Black Lives Matter, but the people who are promoting for all life, are the racists! You are correct, if you weren't racist before, that door is definitely swinging wide open.

That's why I call it "OBLM."  "Only Black Lives Matter," and not even all black lives, just the ones ended by some white person.

Did I just see a report on TeeBee about a black person being hung in a tree in Florida?
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We know no such thing @sneakypete   Had the perp incapacitated (not killed) the cop, he could have taken his gun --- and then we could have had a situation no one would have heard about....just another dead cop, or two if the perp got really lucky.

Part of a cop protecting his or her life is protecting his or her gun. 

Don't resist arrest.  Don't punch the cop.  Don't take any of the cop's weapons  --- and if you do, in the name of God don't point to shoot him with it.

Maybe this should be painted in 20 foot letters on city streets.

Things armchair quarterbacks never think about...

That’s why waiting for after action investigations – the benefit of the doubt – is so important and should be the rule for supporters of our men and women in blue.
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As Bongino and Kerick noted in the interview with Pirro above, tasing a police officer opens the possibility the incapacitated officer will have his gun taken and used against him. Even though it is “only” a taser it is still a deadly force situation nonetheless. And the officer is justified in treating it as such and may use deadly force in response.

That the officer has to protect his pistol is something I have not seen in these discussions, and I think that's a shame.  In how many cases has the "victim" been killed after making a play for a gun?  Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, that guy recently in Georgia that got shot in a botched "citizen's arrest," all tried to disarm the person who shot him.

A responsible carrier always has in mind the need to keep his/her weapon out of the hands of somebody who will first use it on you, and will then use it to harm or kill others.  That gun in your holster is the most important you have on you, for many reasons.
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Why do the chiefs have to resign?

They need to stay around to work on corrections if needed.
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Why do the chiefs have to resign?

They need to stay around to work on corrections if needed.

Classic overreactions .... the Chief's resignation and the firing of the two cops.  (Normal procedure w/b to suspend the cops pending completion of an investigation.)

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Things armchair quarterbacks never think about...

That’s why waiting for after action investigations – the benefit of the doubt – is so important and should be the rule for supporters of our men and women in blue.

IMO, the moment the perp took the taser he changed a DUI into a fight to the death.

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As Bongino and Kerick noted in the interview with Pirro above, tasing a police officer opens the possibility the incapacitated officer will have his gun taken and used against him. Even though it is “only” a taser it is still a deadly force situation nonetheless. And the officer is justified in treating it as such and may use deadly force in response.

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I have to wonder how well that defense would work for thee and me.
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We know no such thing @sneakypete   Had the perp incapacitated (not killed) the cop, he could have taken his gun --- and then we could have had a situation no one would have heard about....just another dead cop, or two if the perp got really lucky.

Part of a cop protecting his or her life is protecting his or her gun. 

Don't resist arrest.  Don't punch the cop.  Don't take any of the cop's weapons  --- and if you do, in the name of God don't point to shoot him with it.

Maybe this should be painted in 20 foot letters on city streets.

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HorseHillary! The other cop was right behind him with his gun already drawn,and could have easily shot the perp long before he could have ran back and unholstered the other cops gun.
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That's why I call it "OBLM."  "Only Black Lives Matter," and not even all black lives, just the ones ended by some white person.

Did I just see a report on TeeBee about a black person being hung in a tree in Florida?

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Just wait until World Wide Government,Inc takes over,and watch how "special" their black shock troops are then.

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I have to wonder how well that defense would work for thee and me.

If he was fleeing either of us civilians, we would be in trouble if we shot him in most states.  This is an area where being a LEO matters.  :shrug:
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Things armchair quarterbacks never think about...

That’s why waiting for after action investigations – the benefit of the doubt – is so important and should be the rule for supporters of our men and women in blue.

@aligncare

You are right. "Armchair Quarterbacks" like me are too busy  judging what DID happen instead of worrying about "what if/yeah,but....".
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@Cyber Liberty

Just wait until World Wide Government,Inc takes over,and watch how "special" their black shock troops are then.

The ones that are allowed to survive will be sent straight to the Plantation.

@sneakypete

They don't realize what the fruits of the demands will be.  That requires abstract thought.  This is not limited to melanin-enhanced individuals, it's a human thing.  There are plenty of melanin-challenged people demanding Won World Gooberment too.
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That the officer has to protect his pistol is something I have not seen in these discussions, and I think that's a shame.  In how many cases has the "victim" been killed after making a play for a gun?  Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, that guy recently in Georgia that got shot in a botched "citizen's arrest," all tried to disarm the person who shot him.

A responsible carrier always has in mind the need to keep his/her weapon out of the hands of somebody who will first use it on you, and will then use it to harm or kill others.  That gun in your holster is the most important you have on you, for many reasons.

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The cop that was shot was maybe 15-20 feet away from the perp when he shot him,and trying to run away when he turned around and shot at the cop with the cops  own stun gun,and missed.

Just how long do you think the perps arms were?
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HorseHillary! The other cop was right behind him with his gun already drawn,and could have easily shot the perp long before he could have ran back and unholstered the other cops gun.

Again, you don't know this. 

Let the investigation move forward.  Unless, of course, you know what's happening there, too. 

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@aligncare

You are right. "Armchair Quarterbacks" like me are too busy  judging what DID happen instead of worrying about "what if/yeah,but....".

Making "judgements" on insufficient data is never a good thing.
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The cop that was shot was maybe 15-20 feet away from the perp when he shot him.

Just how long do you think the perps arms were?

He was less than a car-length away when the perp shot the taser at the cop.  It was not a "hand held taser weapon," it was the kind that shoots a distance.  Fortunately, he fired it while running and it went over the top of the officer's head.

Edited to Add:  If I were the Cop I'd have probably broken off the chase after the discharge of the stun gun because they're one-shot deals, and it was no longer a threat to innocents.
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