Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[skeeter]

I’m having a debate right now and need to know if the increased in positive COVID tests we keep hearing about are for current infections or for antibodies. Does anyone know?

[Hoodat]

Not for antibody tests.

[skeeter]

Not for antibody tests.

ok thanks!

[libertybele]

Perhaps, but we're at an all time high for new cases...

Which begs the question about hot weather (90 degrees and sorta dry here today).

Wasn't that supposed to kill this stuff>> or did they lie about that, too?

Just a thought here --- I'm looking back a few months here in FL, when the rest of the country was being affected with the virus most of the country had cold weather and the virus spread, also people were indoors more, while in FL our temperatures were in the low to mid 80's and at times lower, so people didn't run their A/C as much, windows open, more people outside, humidity is normally higher here than the rest of the country and our case numbers were very low. Now it's just the opposite -- just about every residential dwelling is running their A/C and our cases are skyrocketing. Most of us go outside in the heat  for a little bit at least and many have pools -- but commercial still has to run A/C -- so many our going from A/C to A/C.  On the other coast of FL lots of illegals and definitely a lot more high rise apartment buildings, multiple family dwellings, multiple families living in small quarters -- their cases have always been high. Over the 4th holiday they shut the beaches down there -- guess who came to our coast to use our beaches?  Now our cases are skyrocketing.

[bigheadfred]

I’m having a debate right now and need to know if the increased in positive COVID tests we keep hearing about are for current infections or for antibodies. Does anyone know?

What is the debate? Plague or pandemic?

[truth_seeker]

@Hoodat   @catfish1957

Isn't Arizona ALWAYS in the middle of a 110-120 degree heat wave?

Unless it is 100-110 F

Or you are at high altitudes, and it is 90

Seriously people studying this disease, have found that Vitamin D helps, and sunlight is a source of D, along with dietary supplements.

[libertybele]

Unless it is 100-110 F

Or you are at high altitudes, and it is 90

Seriously people studying this disease, have found that Vitamin D helps, and sunlight is a source of D, along with dietary supplements.

Having optimal health and a good immune system is helpful in combating any virus or disease and certainly some vitamins help to boost the immune system, but so far no vitamin or supplement has been found to actually  prevent COVID.

[DB]

Unless it is 100-110 F

Or you are at high altitudes, and it is 90

Seriously people studying this disease, have found that Vitamin D helps, and sunlight is a source of D, along with dietary supplements.

Yep. It was claimed that there's a high correlation between those who got more ill and were Vitamin D deficient. I take 5,000 IU a day along with broad spectrum K2.

[DB]

Having optimal health and a good immune system is helpful in combating any virus or disease and certainly some vitamins help to boost the immune system, but so far no vitamin or supplement has been found to actually  prevent COVID.

You still get things. Just much less severely.

[Hoodat]

07-18-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	14.671 ↑	1.558 ↓
United States	12.257 ↑	2.165 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, CA, TX, AZ, & GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +97.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,007,291.

US Recoveries-to-deaths ratio climbs above 12.

Mortality rates (reported deaths / reported cases) for current focus states:

AZ - 1.86 %
CA - 2.03 %
FL - 1.47 %
TX - 1.22 %
GA - 2.32 %

To include unreported asymptomatic cases, divide those numbers by 7.

For comparison:
NJ - 8.62%

[bigheadfred]

You still get things. Just much less severely.

Sometimes. Sometimes.

We just got some sad news. A former coworker and still a friend. His son and DIL had a baby yesterday. A little girl. My kids are tight with this kid.

Their baby died 4 hours after birth from no apparent cause or complication.

I am heartstricken.

[libertybele]

Sometimes. Sometimes.

We just got some sad news. A former coworker and still a friend. His son and DIL had a baby yesterday. A little girl. My kids are tight with this kid.

Their baby died 4 hours after birth from no apparent cause or complication.

I am heartstricken.

How very very sad.  Prayers for everyone.

[bigheadfred]

How very very sad.  Prayers for everyone.

I hold your concern about covid as valid. But there is an entire host of death out there. Unseen and unbidden.

There is something else going on here. Not covid. It is merely another disease.

I am going to not submit. Not going to. They are doing something worse than destroying this country.

They are trying to subvert the WILL OF GOD. I don't ask for forgiveness. Nor do I expect it. But never have I or would try to supplant HIM. Defy "the man" yeah.

[roamer_1]

Sometimes. Sometimes.

We just got some sad news. A former coworker and still a friend. His son and DIL had a baby yesterday. A little girl. My kids are tight with this kid.

Their baby died 4 hours after birth from no apparent cause or complication.

I am heartstricken.

Just_damn. 
 

[libertybele]

I hold your concern about covid as valid. But there is an entire host of death out there. Unseen and unbidden.

There is something else going on here. Not covid. It is merely another disease.

I am going to not submit. Not going to. They are doing something worse than destroying this country.

They are trying to subvert the WILL OF GOD. I don't ask for forgiveness. Nor do I expect it. But never have I or would try to supplant HIM. Defy "the man" yeah.

It absolutely seems to be the case.

[bigheadfred]

Just_damn. 
 

We lost 13 family and friends last year, Six this year. Not one from covid.

[bigheadfred]

I am going to listen to some Roxette.

[libertybele]

We lost 13 family and friends last year, Six this year. Not one from covid.

Wow ... I thought that I experienced a lot of loss in life (more so than others), but that is an enormous amount of loss. My heart really goes out to you. 

[Cyber Liberty]

@Hoodat   @catfish1957

Isn't Arizona ALWAYS in the middle of a 110-120 degree heat wave?

[Smokin Joe]

Sometimes. Sometimes.

We just got some sad news. A former coworker and still a friend. His son and DIL had a baby yesterday. A little girl. My kids are tight with this kid.

Their baby died 4 hours after birth from no apparent cause or complication.

I am heartstricken.

Sorry to hear that. Prayers up for the family and friends.

[roamer_1]

We lost 13 family and friends last year, Six this year. Not one from covid.

That's a long hard row to hoe Fred. 

[bigheadfred]

In a way. In away.

In an away I look at it as His Mercy. They deserved to taken back into His arms.

I noticed a change in 2013. There was a "shift". I have had these experiences all my life.

It had to do with a specific verse from Isaiah.

There is this thing.

People are mad. They are outraged. One side already fighting. The others saying...saying...they will...

This is hard to explain. In a way away.

If you seriously eff with me prepare to die.  So many people have a really hard time with the concept of looking another person in the eye and blowing their head off. But they have no problem with bombing Dresden or N Viet Nam in continuous waves.

All war is murder.

And this is my thing. No fog. No anger against the opponent (anger against the forces that brought us to that point). No mercy. No forgiveness.

I am nothing.

In the beginning.

[Hoodat]

Florida reported 100% positive COVID-19 tests from some labs. That's wrong, hospital system says

Frank Gluck & Dan DeLuca   |   Fort Myers News-Press   |   Updated 7/16/2020

FORT MYERS, Fla. – The Florida Department of Health in its daily COVID-19 report lists multiple laboratories throughout the state – many of them small testing sites – with 100% positivity rates, but Southwest Florida's dominant hospital system said Wednesday it is incorrect to say 100% of their labs are positive.

The Lee Health hospital system is reporting that its laboratory testing of potential COVID-19 cases has shown an overall positivity rate of about 18%, despite the state report showing that all people coming in for testing at some of its labs have the novel coronavirus.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/15/florida-coronavirus-tests-hospital-disputes-100-positive-report/5445139002/


This has been happening in Georgia as well.  A friend of my next door neighbor went to a center to get tested.  After a very long wait, the person left the facility without getting tested.  The following day, the person received notice that she had tested positive.  Someone here had posted a similar account a few days back.

Basically, the Dems can't get people to die quickly enough, so they are going after cases instead.

[Smokin Joe]

Florida reported 100% positive COVID-19 tests from some labs. That's wrong, hospital system says

Frank Gluck & Dan DeLuca   |   Fort Myers News-Press   |   Updated 7/16/2020

FORT MYERS, Fla. – The Florida Department of Health in its daily COVID-19 report lists multiple laboratories throughout the state – many of them small testing sites – with 100% positivity rates, but Southwest Florida's dominant hospital system said Wednesday it is incorrect to say 100% of their labs are positive.

The Lee Health hospital system is reporting that its laboratory testing of potential COVID-19 cases has shown an overall positivity rate of about 18%, despite the state report showing that all people coming in for testing at some of its labs have the novel coronavirus.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/15/florida-coronavirus-tests-hospital-disputes-100-positive-report/5445139002/


This has been happening in Georgia as well.  A friend of my next door neighbor went to a center to get tested.  After a very long wait, the person left the facility without getting tested.  The following day, the person received notice that she had tested positive.  Someone here had posted a similar account a few days back.

Basically, the Dems can't get people to die quickly enough, so they are going after cases instead.

The money quote. Testing here has been stepped up, and the number of active cases is up, but details are sketchy.
I have to note though, the age groups testing positive have had no fatalities at all Statewide.

[DB]

The more people who get it and the fewer people who die the better.

That is how we get this behind us.