Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[DB]

In other words, the general pattern has been that the earlier the peak was, the higher the fatality rate. Since testing capacity was so low at the early part of the outbreak, that's to be expected.

Could the current Mexican wave be less deadly than the Italian wave? Perhaps—we do know the pattern of infection is far different because of the lack of lockdowns.

More likely they know how to treat it better now resulting in fewer deaths.

[Hoodat]

07-13-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	13.950 ↑	1.594↑
United States	11.011 ↑	2.250 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

US reported Recovery-to-Death ratio surpasses 11.

Largest case rises occurred in FL, CA, TX, AZ, & GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +128.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 982,211.

[mountaineer]

Just don't light a match ...

CABBAGE DIET HOPE Eating sauerkraut, coleslaw and raw cabbage ‘could protect against coronavirus’
Exclusive
Nick McDermott
13 Jul 2020, 0:01Updated: 13 Jul 2020, 0:02

SCOFFING sauerkraut, coleslaw and kimchi could protect against Covid death, scientists claim.

Experts think foods containing raw and fermented cabbage may be beneficial against the bug, by slashing levels of a compound that helps the virus infect the body.

European researchers say it may explain why countries like Germany and South Korea - where it forms a key part of their diet - have had lower fatalities during the pandemic.

Other foods, such as fermented milks, could also protect against Covid in the same way. ...

Full story at the Sun (U.K.).

[sneakypete]

CABBAGE DIET HOPE Eating sauerkraut, coleslaw and raw cabbage ‘could protect against coronavirus’

There are some things even a virus is afraid of,and entering houses with that diet plan has to be close to the top of the "avoid list".

[Cyber Liberty]

Just don't light a match ...Full story at the Sun (U.K.).

Apparently it's the "fermented" part of the dishes that provide the protection.  This is good news to me, because I enjoy fermented hops and barley every day.

[Bigun]

Maskerade: COVID-1984 and evidence-free compulsory masking

"The masks, contrary to expectation, were worn cheerfully and universally, and also, contrary to expectation of what should follow under such circumstances, no effect on the epidemic curve was to be seen. Something was plainly wrong with our hypotheses."

[DB]

An update.

My daughter's friend has tested negative for Covid-19 so it is likely just a cold that they both have... My daughter's test hasn't come back yet but I expect it to be the same. So my family is packing up in California and plans on coming back home to Arizona tomorrow.

Thank you for the kinds thoughts and prayers.

[roamer_1]

An update.

My daughter's friend has tested negative for Covid-19 so it is likely just a cold that they both have... My daughter's test hasn't come back yet but I expect it to be the same. So my family is packing up in California and plans on coming back home to Arizona tomorrow.

Thank you for the kinds thoughts and prayers.

Oh man, I hope that sticks!
Let's pray that one over the line... 
 

[Smokin Joe]

Oh man, I hope that sticks!
Let's pray that one over the line... 
 

[Hoodat]

07-14-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	14.032 ↑	1.594 -
United States	11.208 ↑	2.246 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Global reported Recovery-to-Death ratio surpasses 14.

Largest case rises occurred in FL, TX, CA, GA & TN.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +55.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 994,095.

Half of todays's reported deaths occurred in TX, CA, NY, FL, & NJ.

[Bigun]

Censored: A Review Of Science Relevant To COVID-19 Social Policy And Why Face Masks Don’t Work

Denis Rancourt, PhD, has published over 100 peer-reviewed studies in his career, but ResearchGate choose to censor and remove this paper because it didn’t fit the narrative of the Great Panic of 2020 over COVID-19. Such censorship proves the existence of an alternative agenda.

Again, this underscores the Technocrat methodology of shaming, ridiculing and censoring anybody that comes forth with real science that refutes their pseudo-science. ⁃ TN Editor

[DB]

Censored: A Review Of Science Relevant To COVID-19 Social Policy And Why Face Masks Don’t Work

There was no mention of the eyes.

If the eyes aren't covered and the virus is in the air then it will be in your eyes too.

[Bigun]

There was no mention of the eyes.

If the eyes aren't covered and the virus is in the air then it will be in your eyes too.

What would be the point of talking about the eyes when the mask is useless to begin with?

[Jazzhead]

Does wearing a mask help prevent the coronavirus?   Probably,  but it's hardly the most important precaution one can take. 

But here's what I do know - wearing a mask helps prevent my Dem governor from shutting down my business.    It's the sort of virtue signaling that liberals like and respond to.  And when it's liberals who hold the power to  determine whether we can work to earn a living,  then yeah,  if you won't wear a mask for yourself, then do it for your neighbor stuck in this hell with you.     

[Idiot]

The First Country to win against Covid-19

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2914316215291285

[bigheadfred]

Does wearing a mask help prevent the coronavirus?   Probably,  but it's hardly the most important precaution one can take. 

But here's what I do know - wearing a mask helps prevent my Dem governor from shutting down my business.    It's the sort of virtue signaling that liberals like and respond to.  And when it's liberals who hold the power to  determine whether we can work to earn a living,  then yeah,  if you won't wear a mask for yourself, then do it for your neighbor stuck in this hell with you.   

Wearing a mask is ok when you are putting a hood on some miscreant polly.

Wait..did I repeat myself???

[Hoodat]

07-15-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	14.116 ↑	1.593 ↓
United States	11.500 ↑	2.215 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Thirty-nine deaths have disappeared from the previous day total, making today's increase in death look larger than it actually is.  My calculation is based on original reported number for 7/13 (138,247).

Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, FL, AZ, & GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  -97.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 988,515.

[Hoodat]

The First Country to win against Covid-19

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2914316215291285

In fairness, those countries don't have Democrats.

[bigheadfred]

07-15-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	14.116 ↑	1.593 ↓
United States	11.500 ↑	2.215 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Thirty-nine deaths have disappeared from the previous day total, making today's increase in death look larger than it actually is.  My calculation is based on original reported number for 7/13 (138,247).

Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, FL, AZ, & GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  -97.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 988,515.

According to the website conflicting numbers are from the people reporting conflicting numbers and the worldometer is doing the best it can to parse the info.

[roamer_1]

I will reiterate on this page... A little experiment for y'all:

Put on your mask long enough to get a normal water load... 10 or 15 minutes...
Light up a smoke, take a drag, and with your mask back in place, stand in front of a mirror and exhale.

Masks don't work, and you will prove it.

[catfish1957]

I will reiterate on this page... A little experiment for y'all:

Put on your mask long enough to get a normal water load... 10 or 15 minutes...
Light up a smoke, take a drag, and with your mask back in place, stand in front of a mirror and exhale.

Masks don't work, and you will prove it.

Had the same discussion with spouse.  Decent rule of thumb is that if you can blow out a candle through your mask, what the hell good is it for protecting you? 

[roamer_1]

Had the same discussion with spouse.  Decent rule of thumb is that if you can blow out a candle through your mask, what the hell good is it for protecting you?

That's right. And yes, it is that simple.

[240B]

The mask has nothing to do with protecting anybody or anything.
It is about power. It is about virtue signaling. It is about submission.
The American Left has become as pro-mask as they are pro-abortion.
We all know the Left is never satisfied with their own life.
Their goal is always about directing YOUR life, how your live, what you can think.
The mask is an insertion, a disruption, of your life.
This is what the American Left lives for.

[DB]

I will reiterate on this page... A little experiment for y'all:

Put on your mask long enough to get a normal water load... 10 or 15 minutes...
Light up a smoke, take a drag, and with your mask back in place, stand in front of a mirror and exhale.

Masks don't work, and you will prove it.

Bigun's link above http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395911.msg2249434.html#msg2249434 is pretty definitive on the subject...

[Jazzhead]

The mask has nothing to do with protecting anybody or anything.
It is about power. It is about virtue signaling. It is about submission.
The American Left has become as pro-mask as they are pro-abortion.
We all know the Left is never satisfied with their own life.
Their goal is always about directing YOUR life, how your live, what you can think.
The mask is an insertion, a disruption, of your life.
This is what the American Left lives for.

Telling me I can't go to a movie or restaurant,  get my hair cut or even work for a living is "directing my life".     I could care less about an order to wear a mask,  when it is the key to getting the damn state's knee off my neck. 

[Smokin Joe]

Telling me I can't go to a movie or restaurant,  get my hair cut or even work for a living is "directing my life".     I could care less about an order to wear a mask,  when it is the key to getting the damn state's knee off my neck.

But it doesn't. It just puts their tag on your collar.

[Hoodat]

We all know the Left is never satisfied with their own life.
Their goal is always about directing YOUR life, how your live, what you can think.
The mask is an insertion, a disruption, of your life.
This is what the American Left lives for.

Correctamundo.

[mountaineer]

Mr. M was in a McDonald's yesterday and overheard a group of older folks talking. One fellow recounted how he, his wife and another couple went together for their Covid tests, for which they, apparently, had appointments. He said they ended up waiting four hours before being tested. He didn't mention what time of day that finally occured, but you have to figure it was afternoon, at least.

The very next day, he received via U.S. Mail a letter advising that he tested positive. So did the others. Gee, that was quick. Both the labs and the U.S. Mail have become extraordinarily efficient in these uncertain times!

Of course, the fact that he "tested positive" and was sitting in a McDonald's may indicate he didn't believe it any more than I do (unless he experienced a miraculously quick recovery)! 

[Idiot]

Mr. M was in a McDonald's yesterday and overheard a group of older folks talking. One fellow recounted how he, his wife and another couple went together for their Covid tests, for which they, apparently, had appointments. He said they ended up waiting four hours before being tested. He didn't mention what time of day that finally occured, but you have to figure it was afternoon, at least.

The very next day, he received via U.S. Mail a letter advising that he tested positive. So did the others. Gee, that was quick. Both the labs and the U.S. Mail have become extraordinarily efficient in these uncertain times!

Of course, the fact that he "tested positive" and was sitting in a McDonald's may indicate he didn't believe it any more than I do (unless he experienced a miraculously quick recovery)! 

Friend of mine went in for a COVID test.  They ended up walking out since it was taking so long and never got tested.  The next day they received a letter indicating they tested positive....lololol.

[EdinVA]

Friend of mine went in for a COVID test.  They ended up walking out since it was taking so long and never got tested.  The next day they received a letter indicating they tested positive....lololol.

Maybe that is who so many folk "get" covid and never have symptoms... lol
Why is that funny...

[mountaineer]

Even though I haven't been tested and have not contacted anyone about even the possibility of being tested, I'm still waiting for my positive test results to come any day now! 

[roamer_1]

Telling me I can't go to a movie or restaurant,  get my hair cut or even work for a living is "directing my life".     I could care less about an order to wear a mask,  when it is the key to getting the damn state's knee off my neck.

HAHAHA! You think they'll let off because you comply. How quaint...

[catfish1957]

Friend of mine went in for a COVID test.  They ended up walking out since it was taking so long and never got tested.  The next day they received a letter indicating they tested positive....lololol.

That is scary.  Either they are so corrupt they are padding their case load, or someone DIDN"T get their test result.

[Bigun]

Even though I haven't been tested and have not contacted anyone about even the possibility of being tested, I'm still waiting for my positive test results to come any day now! 

My health insurance carrier has informed me that they are sending me some kind of test kit in the mail. I hope they don't mind waiting for me to return it. Might be awhile.

[240B]

Friend of mine went in for a COVID test.  They ended up walking out since it was taking so long and never got tested.  The next day they received a letter indicating they tested positive....lololol.

Yep. Read an article recently where the nurses in a hospital became suspicious, because every swab they sent in for testing came back positive. How can this be?

So they started sending in swabs which were brand new never used, straight out of the box.
First they sent in half a dozen, all came back positive.
Then they sent in a couple of dozen sterile swabs just to see?
They all came back positive. Nobody really knows what the truth is.
If you want to crash America, which Leftists certainly do, then you want to keep the COVID thing going until the next election. After the election, if Democrats win, COVID will disappear in one day. Just like it never happened.

All the COVID numbers are fake. They want to hurt Trump in any way they can, no matter what. Even if it means killing themselves in the process. Liberals are new Kamikazi. They are the new Al Quaeda.

They are willing to sacrifice themselves and their own children, if it could possibly hurt Trump somehow. That's how fanatical they have become.

[240B]

My health insurance carrier has informed me that they are sending me some kind of test kit in the mail. I hope they don't mind waiting for me to return it. Might be awhile.

What's the difference.
COVID is so political these days if they say you are positive how can you know it's true?
I had Colonoscopy recently with some 'hack' doctor. Took him 4 weeks to give me the results.
And the results were stupid. He tried to convince me that I have hemorrhoids.
But I don't have hemorrhoids? I think I would know.

I think I would know if I have hemorrhoids. He mixed my exam up with someone else.
The point is, if you have COVID you will more than likely know it, with or without any fake 'test'.
And even if you really do have it, you have a less than 1% chance of needing hospital care.

[mountaineer]

My health insurance carrier has informed me that they are sending me some kind of test kit in the mail. I hope they don't mind waiting for me to return it. Might be awhile.

You could take the test kit outside, set it afire, dig a hole and bury the ashes in the back yard - and you'll still get a letter in a few days informing you of your test results (positive, of course).

[Bigun]

You could take the test kit outside, set it afire, dig a hole and bury the ashes in the back yard - and you'll still get a letter in a few days informing you of your test results (positive, of course).

LOL! Very likely! 

[sneakypete]

What would be the point of talking about the eyes when the mask is useless to begin with?

@Bigun

Not to mention it is a freaking virus,which means it is in the air,on the floor,the doorknobs,the table you sit at,the chair you sit in,the clothes you are wearing,the car you are driving,and last but not least,the home you live in and on the skin of everybody in that home.

SOOOO,how the BLEEP are we supposed to be able to avoid it?

[Smokin Joe]

@Bigun

Not to mention it is a freaking virus,which means it is in the air,on the floor,the doorknobs,the table you sit at,the chair you sit in,the clothes you are wearing,the car you are driving,and last but not least,the home you live in and on the skin of everybody in that home.

SOOOO,how the BLEEP are we supposed to be able to avoid it?

Shrink wrap. Of course, your demise will be credited to COVID-19.

[Bigun]

Shrink wrap. Of course, your demise will be credited to COVID-19.

   Getting run over by a truck qualifies as a COVID death these days.

[Smokin Joe]

  Getting run over by a truck qualifies as a COVID death these days.

Yeah, that's right up there with falling in a rock crusher or wood chipper.

[Hoodat]

Friend of mine went in for a COVID test.  They ended up walking out since it was taking so long and never got tested.  The next day they received a letter indicating they tested positive....lololol.

My biggest fear against testing is that they will purposely infect me with a contaminated test swab.

[Smokin Joe]

My biggest fear against testing is that they will purposely infect me with a contaminated test swab.

My biggest fear is a false positive that will cost my family not only my paycheck until I can get a negative test, but quite possibly a small fortune for medical care I don't need.

[Hoodat]

My biggest fear is a false positive that will cost my family not only my paycheck until I can get a negative test, but quite possibly a small fortune for medical care I don't need.

And then there's that.  As a contractor, I would be screwed out of at least 4 weeks of pay with a positive result.

[Smokin Joe]

And then there's that.  As a contractor, I would be screwed out of at least 4 weeks of pay with a positive result.

As an employee, so would I. There is no unemployment for people who are not considered able to work.

[bigheadfred]

Gah. If you think getting tested for COVID and immediately have it is bad, how do you think I feel?

I went to get tested for COVID and got back a positive test result...I am pregnant...

[DB]

Gah. If you think getting tested for COVID and immediately have it is bad, how do you think I feel?

I went to get tested for COVID and got back a positive test result...I am pregnant...

Congratulations!

[bigheadfred]

Congratulations!

Thank you!

[Smokin Joe]

Gah. If you think getting tested for COVID and immediately have it is bad, how do you think I feel?

I went to get tested for COVID and got back a positive test result...I am pregnant...

Fred, you just won the lottery!

Imagine how much the book rights would be worth...