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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2750 on: June 27, 2020, 10:12:54 pm »
06-27-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.629 ↑   1.714 ↑
United States    8.373 ↑   2.389 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

New deaths listed: +663.  But today's death total is 860 higher than yesterday.  Almost 200 death added without any accounting.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2751 on: June 27, 2020, 10:22:17 pm »
06-28-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.741 ↑   1.710 ↓
United States    8.439 ↑   2.401 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, TX, CA, AZ, and GA.

Increase that immunity pool, people!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2752 on: June 27, 2020, 10:32:47 pm »
@Bigun

No true. The SOLE reason for all the panic is the DNC needed to keep Biden off the campaign trail in order to have any hope at all of a Dim win in 2020. IMNSHO,even the Dims don't want him,and he is just the least scary candidate they had to push forward. I still believe they are going to demand and get mail in ballots so they can steal the election,or have the election postponed and demand Congress take over control of the government because Trumps time will have expired. When/if that happens,they will just name Hillary as our new President,and America will never again have an open election.

Biden was involved with Burisma and has deep financial ties with China.  Trump was close to revealing that corruption and in order to protect Biden, his old boss and all their cronies, they had to protect Sloe Joe.  All the other candidates were made to step down even though some had more delegates than Biden to allow him to duck and cover.

Biden (as it's been mentioned by others in here as well) is merely a placeholder, but IMHO it sure isn't going to be Hillary to replace him; she no longer has the popularity and the money machine behind her and her health isn't going to allow here to step up to the plate.

There are others who would be much more attractive to the DEM electorate and much farther to the left and would be more popular with the millenial; Michelle Obama, Beto O'Rourke, Eric Holder, Valerie Jaret, ....Joe's time is limited.

I'm still not so sure that we're even going to see another election.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2753 on: June 28, 2020, 11:28:08 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2754 on: June 28, 2020, 11:48:14 am »


22 pH...lmao.  If a substance had that level of pH, it'd burn a hole to China.   :silly:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2755 on: June 28, 2020, 11:51:22 am »
Biden was involved with Burisma and has deep financial ties with China.  Trump was close to revealing that corruption and in order to protect Biden, his old boss and all their cronies, they had to protect Sloe Joe.  All the other candidates were made to step down even though some had more delegates than Biden to allow him to duck and cover.

Biden (as it's been mentioned by others in here as well) is merely a placeholder, but IMHO it sure isn't going to be Hillary to replace him; she no longer has the popularity and the money machine behind her and her health isn't going to allow here to step up to the plate.

There are others who would be much more attractive to the DEM electorate and much farther to the left and would be more popular with the millenial; Michelle Obama, Beto O'Rourke, Eric Holder, Valerie Jaret, ....Joe's time is limited.

I'm still not so sure that we're even going to see another election.

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I am ALMOST to the point I am hoping for a revolution in the next several months,and I understand how dangerous that is to innocent people,as well as the survival of our nation.

I have ZERO doubt that if a revolution starts,the first thing the DNC will do is ask the UN for peackeeping troops to help them subdue the "rebels".

Yes,even as stupid as the Dim leadership is,the people who pull their strings are not stupid,just greedy and power mad. They understand the US military is almost certainly going to refuse to open fire on US citizens,so they are going to ask for outside help early.

I am absolutely certain the Chinese will be more than happy to lend them a couple of million infantry and armor troops. After all,they have them to spare,and it's all in the name of "brotherhood",right?

And,THOSE are boys that KNOW how to take orders!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2756 on: June 28, 2020, 12:10:12 pm »
22 pH...lmao.  If a substance had that level of pH, it burn a hole to China.   :silly:

That's gotta be some scale we're unfamiliar with.   :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2757 on: June 28, 2020, 12:16:10 pm »
That's gotta be some scale we're unfamiliar with.   :shrug:

Yeah!  Great catch!  I think it must be a typo but Avocados are outside the ranges as well so I don't know.

That's what I get for posting something without proofreading it first


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2758 on: June 28, 2020, 12:21:20 pm »
That's gotta be some scale we're unfamiliar with.   :shrug:

Well...my BS meter is off the scale.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2759 on: June 28, 2020, 12:24:27 pm »
Well...my BS meter is off the scale.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #2760 on: June 28, 2020, 12:50:05 pm »
@libertybele

I am ALMOST to the point I am hoping for a revolution in the next several months,and I understand how dangerous that is to innocent people,as well as the survival of our nation.

I have ZERO doubt that if a revolution starts,the first thing the DNC will do is ask the UN for peackeeping troops to help them subdue the "rebels".

Yes,even as stupid as the Dim leadership is,the people who pull their strings are not stupid,just greedy and power mad. They understand the US military is almost certainly going to refuse to open fire on US citizens,so they are going to ask for outside help early.

I am absolutely certain the Chinese will be more than happy to lend them a couple of million infantry and armor troops. After all,they have them to spare,and it's all in the name of "brotherhood",right?

And,THOSE are boys that KNOW how to take orders!

Have no doubt, that the U.N. is standing by already. I have little doubt that the rumors long ago that U.N. troops are already stationed throughout our country is true. They've been waiting in the wings for fall of our country.  Bammy wanted U.N. hubs in place -- whether or not that wish was carried out, I don't know.

Not quite understanding your reasoning here -- IF the U.N. is already in place and other military "units" or subversive armies are already in place (and I think that they are) --- don't count on the U.S. military (and please correct me if I am wrong here) not being out numbered.  The idea that generals wouldn't listen to Trump has already been floated as to why he's not using the Insurrection Act and that would become a huge problem.

If we see a revolution I'm not so sure we're going to win.  The only encouragement is that "We the People" have more to lose than anyone else.

Secondly, ask yourself what would probably take place prior to a revolution?  Gun confiscation and incarceration for those that don't comply. That will absolutely take place should we actually see an election and Biden wins.

Still think we stand a chance??  Those who live in remote areas may survive, the rest of us -- not a chance. Yes people have been purchasing guns and ammo for years -- but confiscation is going to put a huge dent in firepower and resistance.  There are some that I would imagine have guns hidden and buried; but that number would not be enough.

Just a note; I saw a protester with a sign "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised".  I haven't heard that since the Ron Paul days.  He did mention that it may take a Revolution to get our country back. 

I'd rather see a peaceful resolution to all of this; but then, I'm a realist and that doesn't seem like a reality.

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« Reply #2761 on: June 28, 2020, 01:18:19 pm »
The US military, and others, would respond to a foreign invasion....

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« Reply #2762 on: June 28, 2020, 03:08:25 pm »
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Have no doubt, that the U.N. is standing by already. I have little doubt that the rumors long ago that U.N. troops are already stationed throughout our country is true. They've been waiting in the wings for fall of our country.  Bammy wanted U.N. hubs in place -- whether or not that wish was carried out, I don't know.

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bele,there has ALWAYS been foreign troops training in our country. Hell,there were foreign troops that came to America to be in The Continental Army under Washington even before America existed as a nation.

They come here because they are our allies in NATO,and they MUST understand how we operate and our equipment in case we are ever joined as allies in a real war.

Our soldiers go to their nations to train for the same reasons. It not only saves lives,it makes victory more certain.

There is NOTHING sinister about it,and there are NO foreign units with bases in America.

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Not quite understanding your reasoning here -- IF the U.N. is already in place and other military "units" or subversive armies are already in place (and I think that they are) ---


They are not.

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don't count on the U.S. military (and please correct me if I am wrong here) not being out numbered.


Outnumbered doesn't mean as much as you think it means. Numbers are only one factor in a battle,and not even the most important one.

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The idea that generals wouldn't listen to Trump has already been floated as to why he's not using the Insurrection Act and that would become a huge problem.

I personally THINK,with ZERO inside information,that they will just refuse to allow the military to get involved in a civilian uprising.

US Service members,ALL of them regardless of branch of service or rank,take an oath on entering service to obey the US Constitution,NOT any General or President. I would like to think most take their oaths seriously.
If we see a revolution I'm not so sure we're going to win.  The only encouragement is that "We the People" have more to lose than anyone else.

Now,if a President were to invite in the Chinese Army to help keep American citizens under control,I strongly suspect the US Military would suddenly decide to take part in the festivities,and not on the side of the President.

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Secondly, ask yourself what would probably take place prior to a revolution?  Gun confiscation and incarceration for those that don't comply. That will absolutely take place should we actually see an election and Biden wins.

*I* think THAT is what would kick off the revolution.

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Still think we stand a chance?? 

Irrelevant.  You don't fight because you are going to win. You fight because you have no other rational choice. If you DON'T fight,you will lose without question,and probably lose your life anyhow,meaning you really have nothing to lose.


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Those who live in remote areas may survive, the rest of us -- not a chance. Yes people have been purchasing guns and ammo for years -- but confiscation is going to put a huge dent in firepower and resistance.  There are some that I would imagine have guns hidden and buried; but that number would not be enough.

Those people are all posers. Those guns will never be dug up. Otherwise they would have never been buried.

What those people are doing is trying to apply salve to their egos,because they KNOW deep down in their hearts that they will never fight,regardless of the circumstances.

When you need a gun,you need a gun NOW,not next weekend when you have time to drive into the woods to dig them up.

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I'd rather see a peaceful resolution to all of this; but then, I'm a realist and that doesn't seem like a reality.

Only a certified fool would want to see any of this come true.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2763 on: June 28, 2020, 04:21:23 pm »
22 pH...lmao.  If a substance had that level of pH, it'd burn a hole to China.   :silly:
Yeah, considering the avocado was off scale at 15.6. 14 is the max.
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« Reply #2764 on: June 28, 2020, 04:30:06 pm »
Yeah, considering the avocado was off scale at 15.6. 14 is the max.

It has Citrus reading a Basic Ph.  Gonna have to tease my good buddy @Bigun somemo. 
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« Reply #2765 on: June 28, 2020, 05:17:53 pm »
Secondly, ask yourself what would probably take place prior to a revolution?  Gun confiscation and incarceration for those that don't comply. That will absolutely take place should we actually see an election and Biden wins.

Still think we stand a chance??  Those who live in remote areas may survive, the rest of us -- not a chance. Yes people have been purchasing guns and ammo for years -- but confiscation is going to put a huge dent in firepower and resistance.  There are some that I would imagine have guns hidden and buried; but that number would not be enough.

LOL! no. Absolutely not. Confiscation might work in the cities and some suburbs... But will the Rockies disarm? Not a single chance in hell. Nowhere. not even Colorado. The Plains states might get a little wobbly but likely not. The Desert SW? Not a chance in hell. Nope. Texas? Are you kidding me? Never going to happen. California too - The Sierras are just like up here. The South? Aw hell no. Southern Illinois and Indiana? No way. Michigan? LOL! Yoopers? Nah. Rural Ohio and Penn? Nope they're basically Southern in thinking...

So that leaves the Left coast and the Northeast. And even there, I think they'd have a fight.

They can pass any damn law they want - That don't mean folks, or even states and counties, will obey it. And I guarantee, anywhere I have been in the Redneck Nation, Such a law will not only be ignored, but violently disobeyed.


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« Reply #2766 on: June 28, 2020, 05:32:11 pm »
LOL! no. Absolutely not. Confiscation might work in the cities and some suburbs... But will the Rockies disarm? Not a single chance in hell. Nowhere. not even Colorado. The Plains states might get a little wobbly but likely not. The Desert SW? Not a chance in hell. Nope. Texas? Are you kidding me? Never going to happen. California too - The Sierras are just like up here. The South? Aw hell no. Southern Illinois and Indiana? No way. Michigan? LOL! Yoopers? Nah. Rural Ohio and Penn? Nope they're basically Southern in thinking...

So that leaves the Left coast and the Northeast. And even there, I think they'd have a fight.

They can pass any damn law they want - That don't mean folks, or even states and counties, will obey it. And I guarantee, anywhere I have been in the Redneck Nation, Such a law will not only be ignored, but violently disobeyed.

Not at all what I was saying -- of course people are not going to willingly give up their weapons -- but I do forsee  unlawful and unannounced confiscation and incarceration; especially with the assistance of the UN military.

I'd love to wake up tomorrow morning to realize that BLM/Antifa are no threat, there's no chance of our Republic falling and everything is just dandy.  That's not reality.

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« Reply #2767 on: June 28, 2020, 05:33:36 pm »
Those people are all posers. Those guns will never be dug up. Otherwise they would have never been buried.

What those people are doing is trying to apply salve to their egos,because they KNOW deep down in their hearts that they will never fight,regardless of the circumstances.

When you need a gun,you need a gun NOW,not next weekend when you have time to drive into the woods to dig them up.

That ain't true @sneakypete . Two is one, and one is none. My armory as it were, is replicated and split into three locations. That ain't so much a prepper thing, as it is having emergency goods stashed were I am likely to need them if I get in trouble.  Those same locales have food (my long-term freeze dried split into three), clothing, and serious woods gear.

I fell into a creek in near winter conditions, had to ditch my gear to live... Came out the other side with nothing but my clothes (no coat) and a folding knife, and what little was in my pocket. I been taught the hard, hard way not to put all my eggs in one basket.

As for needing it NOW, of course I have enough on hand to cover that. But unlike some, I have severely limited caliber and kind to what I truly need, and concentrated more on duplication and ammunition. So if I am compromised in  some way, I still have options.

And all that not having a damn thing to do with insurrection... Wasn't a military thought in my mind.

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« Reply #2768 on: June 28, 2020, 05:37:40 pm »
Not at all what I was saying -- of course people are not going to willingly give up their weapons -- but I do forsee  unlawful and unannounced confiscation and incarceration; especially with the assistance of the UN military.

Never EVER going to work. They'd maybe have an effect the first time, but never again.

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I'd love to wake up tomorrow morning to realize that BLM/Antifa are no threat, there's no chance of our Republic falling and everything is just dandy.  That's not reality.

They are not a threat. They've had their asses handed to them outside of the cities that sanction them.
The difference between here and every other place that communism has been tried, is them guns, and a damn right will to use them. They will PLAY HELL on that. not even a little bit worried about it.

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« Reply #2769 on: June 28, 2020, 05:53:10 pm »
That ain't true @sneakypete . Two is one, and one is none. My armory as it were, is replicated and split into three locations. That ain't so much a prepper thing, as it is having emergency goods stashed were I am likely to need them if I get in trouble.  Those same locales have food (my long-term freeze dried split into three), clothing, and serious woods gear.

I fell into a creek in near winter conditions, had to ditch my gear to live... Came out the other side with nothing but my clothes (no coat) and a folding knife, and what little was in my pocket. I been taught the hard, hard way not to put all my eggs in one basket.

As for needing it NOW, of course I have enough on hand to cover that. But unlike some, I have severely limited caliber and kind to what I truly need, and concentrated more on duplication and ammunition. So if I am compromised in  some way, I still have options.

And all that not having a damn thing to do with insurrection... Wasn't a military thought in my mind.

@roamer_1 in that respect, I'd say that you are way more prepared than most. I'd say not many are as fortunate to be able to prepare in multiple locations.

@sneakypete logic tells me that the purpose of burying/hiding weapons is that the gov't would seize what they can find and you'd still have some weapons that are hidden giving you the ability to defend yourself down the road.

Those that live completely off the grid will fare the best.  About 15 years ago I met a couple who had 3 children and lived completely off the grid, none of them had a social security card/number or even a birth certificate. I know of a couple of people who left the city to live off the grid. They should all do quite nicely.

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« Reply #2770 on: June 28, 2020, 05:55:03 pm »
Never EVER going to work. They'd maybe have an effect the first time, but never again.

They are not a threat. They've had their asses handed to them outside of the cities that sanction them.
The difference between here and every other place that communism has been tried, is them guns, and a damn right will to use them. They will PLAY HELL on that. not even a little bit worried about it.

I wish I could say the same...worry is one of my biggest downfalls.

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@roamer_1 in that respect, I'd say that you are way more prepared than most. I'd say not many are as fortunate to be able to prepare in multiple locations.

I am in no wise alone in that @libertybele . Most of the folks I know have stuff stashed out in the woods. It's just what you do. And folks tend to favor certain places, as I do too... So you put a little extra there in case you need it sometime.

Now, If I am in the Bitterroots , it is less useful - That's where most of the hillbillies are, and I am not far from aid, anywhere up in there... But that's where my cabin is going to be, and that same place is where one of my stashes is. The other is on the back way out of the Bob Marshal, down by Seeley Lake.. If I am in the Great Bear or the Bob (where I would be most likely to spend my time), all I have to do is go over the ridge into the Swan,and I am a couple days walk from that stash. So If I get caught out, west or east of the valley, I have options. The other third is right here, and largely goes with me if I head out to the woods, so I can be mobile, supplied and gone in an hour.

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@sneakypete logic tells me that the purpose of burying/hiding weapons is that the gov't would seize what they can find and you'd still have some weapons that are hidden giving you the ability to defend yourself down the road.

Well he ain't wrong in that... But in my case, that's just a feature. That's not the main purpose.

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Those that live completely off the grid will fare the best.  About 15 years ago I met a couple who had 3 children and lived completely off the grid, none of them had a social security card/number or even a birth certificate. I know of a couple of people who left the city to live off the grid. They should all do quite nicely.

That's likely right... The hillbillies will be there when it is done. They always are. Being expert, living in a rugged land, is a remarkable advantage, and independence is the key... That's right in hillbilly blood. Folks laugh and poke fun at them threadbare folks, all of em without fortune. But what they have instead is priceless and rare-won.

Off-grid is the start of that. But it ain't that easy. It is still a castle mentality, and a castle can be besieged or destroyed. The further out, the less likely, but even so... If you have things, folks will try to come and take it. That commitment to a chunk of land is a serious weakness. The sweet spot, I think, is a hybrid of both. defend your castle while you can, because that best guarantees your survival, even if wholly independent. But be capable of being a ranger/long-walker too.

You need to be able to thrive in both modes. And that is terribly hard to do. Not by myself, though that is hard enough to truly thrive... it's the kin that become the problem. moving a band across the land is entirely different than moving alone. That is what preserves them hillbillies. They can make do no matter... With grandma along, and a mess of kids.

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« Reply #2772 on: June 28, 2020, 07:08:45 pm »
LOL! no. Absolutely not. Confiscation might work in the cities and some suburbs... But will the Rockies disarm? Not a single chance in hell. Nowhere. not even Colorado. The Plains states might get a little wobbly but likely not. The Desert SW? Not a chance in hell. Nope. Texas? Are you kidding me? Never going to happen. California too - The Sierras are just like up here. The South? Aw hell no. Southern Illinois and Indiana? No way. Michigan? LOL! Yoopers? Nah. Rural Ohio and Penn? Nope they're basically Southern in thinking...

So that leaves the Left coast and the Northeast. And even there, I think they'd have a fight.

They can pass any damn law they want - That don't mean folks, or even states and counties, will obey it. And I guarantee, anywhere I have been in the Redneck Nation, Such a law will not only be ignored, but violently disobeyed.
In the plains states, if you need your AR, you should have been watching while they were still out there in bolt-action range. Almost all roads have places you can see for a couple miles.
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« Reply #2773 on: June 28, 2020, 07:13:00 pm »
I wish I could say the same...worry is one of my biggest downfalls.
Properly used, worry is a tool that lets you run different scenarios and devise better means of dealing withthem.

Don't let it paralyze you, use it. Channel that energy into coming up with solutions for every scenario you can, then you will have less to worry about.
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« Reply #2774 on: June 28, 2020, 07:20:35 pm »
Properly used, worry is a tool that lets you run different scenarios and devise better means of dealing withthem.

Don't let it paralyze you, use it. Channel that energy into coming up with solutions for every scenario you can, then you will have less to worry about.

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« Reply #2775 on: June 28, 2020, 08:03:32 pm »
Thank you. happy77
You're welcome!  :patriot: (Been there, too, decided to do something about it.)
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« Reply #2776 on: June 28, 2020, 08:44:33 pm »

  Not at all what I was saying -- of course people are not going to willingly give up their weapons -- but I do forsee  unlawful and unannounced confiscation and incarceration; especially with the assistance of the UN military.

NOT going to happen. It would set off a full-scale rebellion.


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I'd love to wake up tomorrow morning to realize that BLM/Antifa are no threat,



They aren't. The only reason they even exist is because the media keeps pumping them up. I guarantee you a full scale rebellion by those fools wouldn't last two days before they all heard there mama's calling,and had to go hide in public housing.
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« Reply #2777 on: June 28, 2020, 08:49:52 pm »

And all that not having a damn thing to do with insurrection... Wasn't a military thought in my mind.

@roamer_1

Yes,and that is what makes you an exception.

I am also an exception in certain ways. Anytime I want to bust some primers,all I have to do is step out in my yard and cut loose. Don't have a neighbor withing a mile,and surrounded by woods. Plus all the cops know me,and if some nature lover or other freak hears all the  30 cal semi fire,shotgun fire,or handgun fire and panics and calls the cops,they will just laugh and tell him to not worry about it.
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« Reply #2778 on: June 28, 2020, 08:54:20 pm »
@roamer_1 

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@sneakypete logic tells me that the purpose of burying/hiding weapons is that the gov't would seize what they can find and you'd still have some weapons that are hidden giving you the ability to defend yourself down the road.

I agree that it would seem that way at first,but the cold hard facts are IF you ever had any intention to defend yourself or stand up to the government,you would have guns and ammo at home,and by the time they drag you out of the smoking house by your heels,you will no longer have any use for those buried guns.

Better to just sell them cheap to somebody you think will use them than to leave them to rust away underground.

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« Reply #2779 on: June 28, 2020, 09:04:21 pm »
In the plains states, if you need your AR, you should have been watching while they were still out there in bolt-action range. Almost all roads have places you can see for a couple miles.

@Smokin Joe

True dat. It amuses the hell out of me to hear people say there will be mass gun confiscations outside of the big cities anywhere but in the northeast and the left coast.

You can bet your bippy the local sheriffs dept isn't going to go on any gun seizure campaign in rural areas. They not only know better,THEY are a part of the crowd that will never give up their guns.

Imagine for a minute,a crowd of BLM holligans stalking down a dirt road in some rural area,waving banners and screaming about about racial justice and doling out revenge.

I'm betting that starts to get worn out pretty quickly when the rubes start taking head shots at about 100 yards,and the "bloods" have nowhere to point their pistols,that only seem to shoot when held sideways.

The whole damn crowd will be beating feet to run back to the ghetto to hide. People do NOT join gangs because they are brave. They join gangs because they are cowards,and even brave,experienced soldiers have problems advancing against rifle fire from dug in positions across open fields.

It's easy to be tough when you are the only one with a gun.
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« Reply #2780 on: June 28, 2020, 09:33:23 pm »
@Smokin Joe

True dat. It amuses the hell out of me to hear people say there will be mass gun confiscations outside of the big cities anywhere but in the northeast and the left coast.

You can bet your bippy the local sheriffs dept isn't going to go on any gun seizure campaign in rural areas. They not only know better,THEY are a part of the crowd that will never give up their guns.

Imagine for a minute,a crowd of BLM holligans stalking down a dirt road in some rural area,waving banners and screaming about about racial justice and doling out revenge.

I'm betting that starts to get worn out pretty quickly when the rubes start taking head shots at about 100 yards,and the "bloods" have nowhere to point their pistols,that only seem to shoot when held sideways.

The whole damn crowd will be beating feet to run back to the ghetto to hide. People do NOT join gangs because they are brave. They join gangs because they are cowards,and even brave,experienced soldiers have problems advancing against rifle fire from dug in positions across open fields.

It's easy to be tough when you are the only one with a gun.
ONE hundred yards? Why let them get to the mailbox? If you can't hit a dinner plate at 300,  **nononono*.

Remember Sergeant York? How to deal with a flock of turkeys?

And Mrs. Joe is just a hair better rifle shot than I am.
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« Reply #2781 on: June 28, 2020, 09:36:11 pm »
@Smokin Joe

True dat. It amuses the hell out of me to hear people say there will be mass gun confiscations outside of the big cities anywhere but in the northeast and the left coast.

You can bet your bippy the local sheriffs dept isn't going to go on any gun seizure campaign in rural areas. They not only know better,THEY are a part of the crowd that will never give up their guns.

Imagine for a minute,a crowd of BLM holligans stalking down a dirt road in some rural area,waving banners and screaming about about racial justice and doling out revenge.

I'm betting that starts to get worn out pretty quickly when the rubes start taking head shots at about 100 yards,and the "bloods" have nowhere to point their pistols,that only seem to shoot when held sideways.

The whole damn crowd will be beating feet to run back to the ghetto to hide. People do NOT join gangs because they are brave. They join gangs because they are cowards,and even brave,experienced soldiers have problems advancing against rifle fire from dug in positions across open fields.

It's easy to be tough when you are the only one with a gun.
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I think the lefty's have blown it....

The BLM/Antifa riots, calls of defunding police has made even the centrists uneasy and unwilling to go along with gun bans.  Places like NYC may pull it off but not at the state levels.

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« Reply #2782 on: June 28, 2020, 09:37:17 pm »
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I think the lefty's have blown it....

The BLM/Antifa riots, calls of defunding police has made even the centrists uneasy and unwilling to go along with gun bans.  Places like NYC may pull it off but not at the state levels.
Not for long, anyway. That third rail of American Politics is fully charged about now.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2783 on: June 28, 2020, 09:59:17 pm »
Not for long, anyway. That third rail of American Politics is fully charged about now.

And most of them don't talk about it on the very public interwebs.

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« Reply #2784 on: June 28, 2020, 10:06:29 pm »
And most of them don't talk about it on the very public interwebs.
People are afraid of being accused of making threats or hate crimes. That could cost them their jobs.

Kipling put it well enough:

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It was not taught by the state.
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It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
From The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon

Only by no means will that wrath be confined to Saxons, rather partaken by all who are tired of this communist cultural tantrum.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2785 on: June 28, 2020, 11:03:46 pm »
ONE hundred yards? Why let them get to the mailbox? If you can't hit a dinner plate at 300,  **nononono*.



@Smokin Joe

Because if they are going to make me do this sort of thing against my will,I want to be able to have a little bit of fun with it. Why NOT let them get close enough to hear them scream in panic and see the expressions on their faces when they begin to realize just how badly they screwed up?

Besides,you are going to want to go out scavenging the bodies for food,money,weapons,etc,etc,etc once the dust settles,so why walk so far?
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« Reply #2786 on: June 28, 2020, 11:14:58 pm »
@sneakypete
I think the lefty's have blown it....

The BLM/Antifa riots, calls of defunding police has made even the centrists uneasy and unwilling to go along with gun bans.  Places like NYC may pull it off but not at the state levels.

@EdinVA

I do believe you are right. I have never been accused of being shy,and I have been vocal in public about my opinion of Slow Joe,The DNC,and every SOB that votes Dim in public,and even stated the Dims are in bed with the Chinese are are behind this because they know they can't win an election with Slow Joe if he has to hit the campaign trail,and even my suspicion that the DNC wants to cancel the elections so they can steal the country.

EVERY black man I have said this to has vehemently agreed with me except for one today,and he just smiled and laughed.

They have also gone too far with this virus and mask crap. I sat in a Hardees today and saw customer after customer leave mad because they didn't have masks on and were told to leave. As they stormed out the door,I gleefully shouting "You can thank the Dims for this!". I may have even repeated it a time or two for the ones pretending to not hear.

One hot young female maybe  years old that looked to MAYBE be part Her-Panic or Black joined in by shouting "It's the Jews! The Jews are behind it all!"

I don't shock easy,but I gotta admit that one had me speechless for a few minutes before I explained to her that SOME Jews were no doubt involved in it,but the focal point is it is the LEFT doing this to stay in power.

I am not kidding either. I  have done this a BUNCH of times in public places,and have yet to have anyone try to get nose to nose with me. Like I said about,everybody but one man that I mentioned this to agreed with me,and you could tell from the sound of their voice and the looks on their faces that they were steamed about it,too.

I figure give this two more weeks,and the geezers are going to be marching in protest in the streets.

The Dims just went too far too fast.
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« Reply #2787 on: June 29, 2020, 07:08:45 am »
@EdinVA

I do believe you are right. I have never been accused of being shy,and I have been vocal in public about my opinion of Slow Joe,The DNC,and every SOB that votes Dim in public,and even stated the Dims are in bed with the Chinese are are behind this because they know they can't win an election with Slow Joe if he has to hit the campaign trail,and even my suspicion that the DNC wants to cancel the elections so they can steal the country.

EVERY black man I have said this to has vehemently agreed with me except for one today,and he just smiled and laughed.

They have also gone too far with this virus and mask crap. I sat in a Hardees today and saw customer after customer leave mad because they didn't have masks on and were told to leave. As they stormed out the door,I gleefully shouting "You can thank the Dims for this!". I may have even repeated it a time or two for the ones pretending to not hear.

One hot young female maybe  years old that looked to MAYBE be part Her-Panic or Black joined in by shouting "It's the Jews! The Jews are behind it all!"

I don't shock easy,but I gotta admit that one had me speechless for a few minutes before I explained to her that SOME Jews were no doubt involved in it,but the focal point is it is the LEFT doing this to stay in power.

I am not kidding either. I  have done this a BUNCH of times in public places,and have yet to have anyone try to get nose to nose with me. Like I said about,everybody but one man that I mentioned this to agreed with me,and you could tell from the sound of their voice and the looks on their faces that they were steamed about it,too.

I figure give this two more weeks,and the geezers are going to be marching in protest in the streets.

The Dims just went too far too fast.
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« Reply #2788 on: June 29, 2020, 12:37:54 pm »
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November is going to be interesting...

@EdinVA

Regardless of WHICH way it goes.

I am not worried because I am pure of heart,and my FN-FAL and my 45ACP Combat Commander are at my side,and comfort me.
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« Reply #2789 on: June 29, 2020, 02:00:19 pm »
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Regardless of WHICH way it goes.

I am not worried because I am pure of heart,and my FN-FAL and my 45ACP Combat Commander are at my side,and comfort me.
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« Reply #2790 on: June 29, 2020, 07:08:12 pm »
06-29-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.863 ↑   1.706 ↓
United States    8.514 ↑   2.412 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, CA, TX, AZ, and GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +18

Things are looking up.  The younger population continues to build up immunity while mortality rates continue to plummet.
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« Reply #2791 on: June 29, 2020, 07:28:05 pm »
06-29-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.863 ↑   1.706 ↓
United States    8.514 ↑   2.412 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, CA, TX, AZ, and GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +18

Things are looking up.  The younger population continues to build up immunity while mortality rates continue to plummet.


??? Those figures of reported new deaths is extremely low -- FL reported 28 new deaths today.

https://www.winknews.com/2020/06/29/mondays-coronavirus-updates-5266-new-cases-reported-in-florida-28-additional-deaths/

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??? Those figures of reported new deaths is extremely low -- FL reported 28 new deaths today.

https://www.winknews.com/2020/06/29/mondays-coronavirus-updates-5266-new-cases-reported-in-florida-28-additional-deaths/

From midnight GMT 6/28 to midnight 6/29, there were 285 deaths.
From midnight GMT 6/21 to midnight 6/22, there were 267 deaths.

So comparing yesterday to the previous Sunday, there were 18 more deaths.  (See: +18 in my post)

The Sunday before that (6/14), there were 331 deaths.
On Sunday June 7, there were 373.  Overall, deaths are trending downward.
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« Reply #2793 on: June 30, 2020, 06:48:14 pm »
Book cooking continues.  When I posted numbers yesterday (shortly after midnight GMT, 6/30), the WorldofMeters website listed US deaths at the close of 6/28 at 128,437.  Sometime in the last 24 hours, over 500 deaths have been added.  That same figure now shows 128,992. 

Any deaths reported after the close of midnight are recorded on the following day.  Yet someone went back two days and padded the number.  They still show only +285 deaths occurring on 6/28.  But the difference in the totals between the two days comes to +840.
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« Reply #2794 on: June 30, 2020, 07:22:14 pm »
Book cooking continues.  When I posted numbers yesterday (shortly after midnight GMT, 6/30), the WorldofMeters website listed US deaths at the close of 6/28 at 128,437.  Sometime in the last 24 hours, over 500 deaths have been added.  That same figure now shows 128,992. 

Any deaths reported after the close of midnight are recorded on the following day.  Yet someone went back two days and padded the number.  They still show only +285 deaths occurring on 6/28.  But the difference in the totals between the two days comes to +840.

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Book cooking continues.  When I posted numbers yesterday (shortly after midnight GMT, 6/30), the WorldofMeters website listed US deaths at the close of 6/28 at 128,437.  Sometime in the last 24 hours, over 500 deaths have been added.  That same figure now shows 128,992. 

Any deaths reported after the close of midnight are recorded on the following day.  Yet someone went back two days and padded the number.  They still show only +285 deaths occurring on 6/28.  But the difference in the totals between the two days comes to +840.
Not sure where you are at, but I notice the media are blaming all the surge in new cases on bars and beaches, not on protests. (Maybe that's because the protesters were wearing masks).

What we should identify is which counties had large protests and whether the numbers there have shown an increase.

I must note the absence of an increase does not preclude exchange of pathogens at protests and the protesters driving home (elsewhere, since so many seem to have been imported) to get sick and spread the virus, but one would expect some rise in the local cases as well.
I must further note the possibility (however remote) that these protest events were intended to spread the virus, considering the Communist ties for the primary organizations involved. If they will cripple local economies, they'd cripple the National one.
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06-30-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.931 ↑   1.711 ↓
United States    8.636 ↑   2.401 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, AZ, and GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +558*

* (Without the extra 555 deaths that appeared out of thin air, the daily tally is only 3 higher than reported last Monday)

Total US deaths reported (at 0 GMT 6/30) - 129,358
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« Reply #2797 on: June 30, 2020, 09:25:22 pm »
06-30-2020 | 0:00 GMT

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +558*

* (Without the extra 555 deaths that appeared out of thin air, the daily tally is only 3 higher than reported last Monday)

Total US deaths reported (at 0 GMT 6/30) - 129,358

Those 555 "deaths" are just new democratic voters.... nothing to see here..

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« Reply #2798 on: June 30, 2020, 09:29:02 pm »
06-30-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  11.992 ↑   1.700 ↓
United States    8.636 ↑   2.401 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, AZ, and GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +558*

* (Without the extra 555 deaths that appeared out of thin air, the daily tally is only 3 higher than reported last Monday)

Total US deaths reported (at 0 GMT 6/30) - 129,358

IMO, you are doing a great job of keeping us informed.

I gotta ask this. Not out of morbid curiosity. Just curiosity.

Does anyone out there personally know someone who has died of covid? I don't.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2799 on: June 30, 2020, 09:37:13 pm »
07-01-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  12.073 ↑   1.700 ↓
United States    8.787 ↑   2.386 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in TX, CA, FL, AZ, and GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  -99

Total US deaths reported (at 0 GMT 7/01) - 130,122 (+764)

Mortality rate continues to fall while immunity increases.
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