Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[Cyber Liberty]

It dates to the 1970s. It's generic and cheap.

Just follow the money....

Watch out, the hoarders are already on the way.

[Hoodat]

Uh-oh. Trump better not say something good about Ivermectin or the democrats and Neil Cavuto will warn everyone it’ll kill them if they take it.

You mean like he did with the other anti-parasitic drug?

[bigheadfred]

It dates to the 1970s. It's generic and cheap.

Is that a quote from Norman Lear?

[Cyber Liberty]

Is that a quote from Norman Lear?

Sounds more like a quote from Norman Lear.

[bigheadfred]

Sounds more like a quote from Norman Lear.

Stop channeling @Quasar44.

[Hoodat]

05-24-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	7.157 ↑	2.121 ↓
United States	4.529 ↑	3.730 ↓
China	16.888 ↑	1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 801,712
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 33.1 %  ↑
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.5 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Substantial rise in reported US recoveries.  US cases-to-recoveries ratio falls below 4 for first time.  US 14-day recovery deficit falls for only second time in May.

[Quasar44]

Stop channeling @Quasar44.

????

I sure don’t want the “China Flu” but I think ( if you are not immune compromised) ...then it’s ok to go out !!!
 This is not the bubonic death( China ) of the 14th Century and it’s not the Spanish Flu( which I think came from China,also )
Ex

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

????

I sure don’t want the “China Flu” but I think ( if you are not immune compromised) ...then it’s ok to go out !!!
 This is not the bubonic death( China ) of the 14th Century and it’s not the Spanish Flu( which I think came from China,also )
Ex

I'm fascinated by quasars...

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm fascinated by quasars...

That was back in the day when Motorola made a great TeeVee.  "Works in a Drawer."

[LadyLiberty]

If it's expensive, then here come the stories about Trump getting rich on COVID.  If it's cheap, then Trump's getting rich on COVID!!!

My pups get dosed with it every month to prevent heartworms (Heartgard).

[Hoodat]

05-25-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	7.296 ↑	2.105 ↓
United States	4.549 ↑	3.734 ↑
China	16.888 -	1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 816,636
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 33.0 %  ↓
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.0 %  ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[txradioguy]

@txradioguy

There wasn't an election to steal at any of those times,and a braindead,criminal candidate for President to provide cover for in order to win.

@sneakypete very true.

[Hoodat]

05-26-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	7.485 ↑	2.085 ↓
United States	4.656 ↑	3.672 ↓
China	16.890 ↑	1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 821,359
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 33.5 %  ↑
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.3 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Hoodat]

Georgia SARS-2 Fatalities

Average age:  74
Standard Deviation:  ±14

Over 86% of fatalities are aged 60 or greater.

[jmyrlefuller]

COVID-19 not very infectious 8 days after symptoms occur, Winnipeg study suggests

COVID-19 appears to be infectious only for the first eight days after patients experience symptoms, Winnipeg researchers conclude in a study that, if confirmed by further work, could have implications for the way the disease is treated, isolated and prevented.

In the largest study of its kind so far, researchers from the National Microbiology Laboratory, Cadham Provincial Laboratory and the University of Manitoba looked at nasal or throat samples from 90 Manitobans who tested positive for COVID-19 from March 12 to the first week of April.

There was no viral growth whatsoever in samples taken from patients more than eight days after they became symptomatic, according to study findings published Friday in the peer-reviewed journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

(excerpt)

[Hoodat]

COVID-19 not very infectious 8 days after symptoms occur, Winnipeg study suggests

COVID-19 appears to be infectious only for the first eight days after patients experience symptoms, Winnipeg researchers conclude

The big question that remains unanswered is this:  What about people who don't have any symptoms?  Are they infectious?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

You guys will love this. I guess an MSNBC newsperson was shaming people for not wearing masks, a random guy walks up filming with his camera:

Newsguy: "Nobody here is wearing masks"
Random guy: "Including the cameraman, none of your crew are wearing them."

https://twitter.com/search?q=including%20the%20cameraman&src=typed_query

[Hoodat]

05-27-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	7.587 ↑	2.070 ↓
United States	4.772 ↑	3.595 ↓
China	16.892 ↑	1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 828,095
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 34.1 %  ↑
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.8 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Hoodat]

05-28-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	7.700 ↑	2.053 ↓
United States	4.800 ↑	3.562 ↓
China	16.893 ↑	1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 838,111
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 34.3 %  ↑
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.8 %  -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[jmyrlefuller]

Blood clots clogged lungs of African American coronavirus victims, study finds

Autopsies on 10 African American patients who died from COVID-19 show their lungs were filled with blood clots, according to a new study.

The autopsies were performed at University Medical Center in New Orleans by a team of pathologists from the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center New Orleans. It's believed to be the first autopsy series on African Americans whose cause of death was attributed to COVID-19, according to the study, which was published Wednesday in monthly scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

The small vessel clotting is a new finding that appears to be specific to COVID-19, according to the study.

https://wjtn.com/news-and-closings/national-headlines/411604f6de6d426080d7dbf70bfc7162

[musiclady]

Blood clots clogged lungs of African American coronavirus victims, study finds

Autopsies on 10 African American patients who died from COVID-19 show their lungs were filled with blood clots, according to a new study.

The autopsies were performed at University Medical Center in New Orleans by a team of pathologists from the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center New Orleans. It's believed to be the first autopsy series on African Americans whose cause of death was attributed to COVID-19, according to the study, which was published Wednesday in monthly scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

The small vessel clotting is a new finding that appears to be specific to COVID-19, according to the study.

https://wjtn.com/news-and-closings/national-headlines/411604f6de6d426080d7dbf70bfc7162

That’s really interesting.  I’ve read that blood clotting and strokes have been results of Covid in younger victims too..... even those who survive.

Nick Cordero, the actor, is just one example, and he had his leg amputated because of it, has been in a coma, and is still hospitalized.

I wonder why African Americans get blood clots from it?

[catfish1957]

That’s really interesting.  I’ve read that blood clotting and strokes have been results of Covid in younger victims too..... even those who survive.

Nick Cordero, the actor, is just one example, and he had his leg amputated because of it, has been in a coma, and is still hospitalized.

I wonder why African Americans get blood clots from it?

Every disease has a level genetic pre-disposition, and obvious some demographics are harder hit than others.

While browsing the COVID maps, I noticed one strange thing.  It seems that a lot of counties that are highly populated by Scotch-Irish (good bit of my ancestry) VA, WV, NC, TN, KY, AR seem to be less hit than others.  That may be randomness, but I think 300 years of moonshine has had a side benefit.  

[sneakypete]

Blood clots clogged lungs of African American coronavirus victims, study finds

Autopsies on 10 African American patients who died from COVID-19 show their lungs were filled with blood clots, according to a new study.

The autopsies were performed at University Medical Center in New Orleans by a team of pathologists from the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center New Orleans. It's believed to be the first autopsy series on African Americans whose cause of death was attributed to COVID-19, according to the study, which was published Wednesday in monthly scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

The small vessel clotting is a new finding that appears to be specific to COVID-19, according to the study.

https://wjtn.com/news-and-closings/national-headlines/411604f6de6d426080d7dbf70bfc7162

@jmyrlefuller

This is confusing to me. Are they trying to tell us this virus is racist and only gives lung blood clots to people of African origin?

Or are they saying they are just focusing on how blacks are affected,and don't know if the same applies to Caucasians,Asians,and His or Her Panics?

[sneakypete]

That’s really interesting.  I’ve read that blood clotting and strokes have been results of Covid in younger victims too..... even those who survive.

Nick Cordero, the actor, is just one example, and he had his leg amputated because of it, has been in a coma, and is still hospitalized.

@musiclady

Thanks,I had forgotten about the actor. He's out of the hospital now,isn't he? Seems like I caught a part of an interview of him on tv one day.

[sneakypete]

Every disease has a level genetic pre-disposition, and obvious some demographics are harder hit than others.

While browsing the COVID maps, I noticed one strange thing.  It seems that a lot of counties that are highly populated by Scotch-Irish (good bit of my ancestry) VA, WV, NC, TN, KY, AR seem to be less hit than others.  That may be randomness, but I think 300 years of moonshine has had a side benefit.

@catfish1957

LOL! That was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I got to the bottom of your paragraph.

This might be good news to me because if it is true,I am most likely am now immune to it.

[Cyber Liberty]

@jmyrlefuller

This is confusing to me. Are they trying to tell us this virus is racist and only gives lung blood clots to people of African origin?

Or are they saying they are just focusing on how blacks are affected,and don't know if the same applies to Caucasians,Asians,and His or Her Panics?

It's the Newports.

[jmyrlefuller]

@jmyrlefuller

This is confusing to me. Are they trying to tell us this virus is racist and only gives lung blood clots to people of African origin?

Or are they saying they are just focusing on how blacks are affected,and don't know if the same applies to Caucasians,Asians,and His or Her Panics?

Don't read too much into it; the article said they only studied black people. I don't see why it would be any different for other races.

[catfish1957]

@catfish1957

LOL! That was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I got to the bottom of your paragraph.

This might be good news to me because if it is true,I am most likely am now immune to it.

LOL...

And the fact our ancestors were the orignial purveyors of social distancing...

[roamer_1]

Every disease has a level genetic pre-disposition, and obvious some demographics are harder hit than others.

While browsing the COVID maps, I noticed one strange thing.  It seems that a lot of counties that are highly populated by Scotch-Irish (good bit of my ancestry) VA, WV, NC, TN, KY, AR seem to be less hit than others.  That may be randomness, but I think 300 years of moonshine has had a side benefit.

LOL! Mountain folk... and no surprise... though maybe not just likker.
Hillbillies are separate from town... don't go in too often. Grow their own food, so not going to the grocery store... Divorced from others, even among themselves, separation between families/farms...
AND moonshine... and mountain medicine.

 You'll find the same thing in the Rockies.

[musiclady]

@musiclady

Thanks,I had forgotten about the actor. He's out of the hospital now,isn't he? Seems like I caught a part of an interview of him on tv one day.

He's still hospitalized, and has been since March.  I think he's had a recent lung infection, though, and quite a few set backs.

Not out of the woods yet.

I only know about him because we really like Blue Bloods and he's been on several of them (and updates about him keep showing up on my phone's Google feed).

[musiclady]

Don't read too much into it; the article said they only studied black people. I don't see why it would be any different for other races.

African Americans are dying at a much greater rate, so I'm sure they are interested in finding out why.

Obviously most live in highly congested areas, many have health issues, and many also are reluctant to go to Doctors, but the difference in the percentages is pretty significant.

[musiclady]

Every disease has a level genetic pre-disposition, and obvious some demographics are harder hit than others.

While browsing the COVID maps, I noticed one strange thing.  It seems that a lot of counties that are highly populated by Scotch-Irish (good bit of my ancestry) VA, WV, NC, TN, KY, AR seem to be less hit than others.  That may be randomness, but I think 300 years of moonshine has had a side benefit.

Could be. 

Or could be the natural social distancing the mountains provide.....

[Cyber Liberty]

Could be. 

Or could be the natural social distancing the mountains provide.....

Or....Raciss Trump and China got together to develop a disease that targets black people.



(You KNOW Farrakhan is already preaching this!)

[Smokin Joe]

Blood clots clogged lungs of African American coronavirus victims, study finds

Autopsies on 10 African American patients who died from COVID-19 show their lungs were filled with blood clots, according to a new study.

The autopsies were performed at University Medical Center in New Orleans by a team of pathologists from the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center New Orleans. It's believed to be the first autopsy series on African Americans whose cause of death was attributed to COVID-19, according to the study, which was published Wednesday in monthly scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

The small vessel clotting is a new finding that appears to be specific to COVID-19, according to the study.

https://wjtn.com/news-and-closings/national-headlines/411604f6de6d426080d7dbf70bfc7162

IIRC, this was found in victims early on in California. It is believed to be a Cytokine Storm sort of phenomenon. (see the last article in the links below). It is not confined to African-Americans, by any measure.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-05-26/blood-clots-pose-coronavirus-threat

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/blood-clots-coronavirus-tpa/

and How does coronavirus kill? Clinicians trace a ferocious rampage through the body, from brain to toes

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/how-does-coronavirus-kill-clinicians-trace-ferocious-rampage-through-body-brain-toes

[LadyLiberty]

Blood clots clogged lungs of African American coronavirus victims, study finds

Autopsies on 10 African American patients who died from COVID-19 show their lungs were filled with blood clots, according to a new study.

The autopsies were performed at University Medical Center in New Orleans by a team of pathologists from the Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center New Orleans. It's believed to be the first autopsy series on African Americans whose cause of death was attributed to COVID-19, according to the study, which was published Wednesday in monthly scientific journal The Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

The small vessel clotting is a new finding that appears to be specific to COVID-19, according to the study.

https://wjtn.com/news-and-closings/national-headlines/411604f6de6d426080d7dbf70bfc7162

Interesting.  This article mentions an African American man with clots in the lungs, but they were identified while he was alive, no autopsy needed:

This small Texas hospital is finding ways to save COVID-19 patients

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-15/this-small-texas-hospital-is-finding-ways-to-save-covid-19-patients

[jmyrlefuller]

Interesting.  This article mentions an African American man with clots in the lungs, but they were identified while he was alive, no autopsy needed:

This small Texas hospital is finding ways to save COVID-19 patients

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-15/this-small-texas-hospital-is-finding-ways-to-save-covid-19-patients

I saw that story when it came out a couple weeks ago. It is a good read. HCQ is apparently a standard course of treatment there.

[LadyLiberty]

African Americans are dying at a much greater rate, so I'm sure they are interested in finding out why.

Obviously most live in highly congested areas, many have health issues, and many also are reluctant to go to Doctors, but the difference in the percentages is pretty significant.

Due to their dark skin, it's also not unusual for them to have a vitamin D deficiency which affects the immune system.  Also, I would not be surprised to learn that residents of assisting living facilities, many of whom never get any sunlight to make their own vitamin D, are deficient as well and are not given a supplement to make up for it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2/fulltext

[sneakypete]

It's the Newports.

@Cyber Liberty

Don't forget the Kools.

[sneakypete]

Don't read too much into it; the article said they only studied black people. I don't see why it would be any different for other races.

@jmyrlefuller

Of course it would. Blacks have some DNA that is different,or they wouldn't be black. I am guessing the same is true of Asians and other smaller groups.

Sickle Cell Anemia is one disease that comes to mind.

[musiclady]

Due to their dark skin, it's also not unusual for them to have a vitamin D deficiency which affects the immune system.  Also, I would not be surprised to learn that residents of assisting living facilities, many of whom never get any sunlight to make their own vitamin D, are deficient as well and are not given a supplement to make up for it.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2/fulltext

Good points.  Vitamin D is extremely important for good health, and I know that older people who take enough have a higher survival rate if they do get Covid.

But the lack of sunlight in congregate settings such as nursing homes, compounded with age, makes sense.

I didn't know that darker skin creates a vitamin D deficiency....  Interesting....  Thanks!

[Smokin Joe]

@jmyrlefuller

Of course it would. Blacks have some DNA that is different,or they wouldn't be black. I am guessing the same is true of Asians and other smaller groups.

Sickle Cell Anemia is one disease that comes to mind.

Sickle Cell Anemia thwarts the malaria parasite. I wonder if it helps or hurts with COVID?

[sneakypete]

Sickle Cell Anemia thwarts the malaria parasite. I wonder if it helps or hurts with COVID?

@Smokin Joe

Probably a good question,but I am most definitely the wrong person to ask.

[jmyrlefuller]

Are Temperature Checks Just Covid-Prevention Theater?
Monitoring customers and employees for fevers is becoming common practice, but maybe it shouldn’t.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403456.msg2219255.html

[mountaineer]

The swimming pool at a local park will open soon. It was just reported that employees will be checking patrons' temperatures. 

[Cyber Liberty]

The swimming pool at a local park will open soon. It was just reported that employees will be checking patrons' temperatures. 

External temperature should be consistently equal to the temperature of the water in the pool, +/- a couple.  Am I missing something?  Did the laws of thermodynamics take a vacay?

And don't most pools run around 80F?

[Hoodat]

Due to their dark skin, it's also not unusual for them to have a vitamin D deficiency which affects the immune system.

Melanin does inhibit the efficiency of Vitamin D synthesis from UVB radiation.  However, it isn't a factor when governments are ordering citizens to remain indoors.

[EdinVA]

External temperature should be consistently equal to the temperature of the water in the pool, +/- a couple.  Am I missing something?  Did the laws of thermodynamics take a vacay?

And don't most pools run around 80F?

The first few weeks after the pools open, the water is just above freezing.... at least it feels that way.

[roamer_1]

The first few weeks after the pools open, the water is just above freezing.... at least it feels that way.

It takes a while for the urine to warm em up I guess... 

LOL! This whole thing is funny to me... Pick a lake... pick a river.... heck, pick a pond or a creek... They couldn't stop that sort of thing here if they tried. Not that ppl would stand for it anyhow.

[Cyber Liberty]

It takes a while for the urine to warm em up I guess... 

LOL! This whole thing is funny to me... Pick a lake... pick a river.... heck, pick a pond or a creek... They couldn't stop that sort of thing here if they tried. Not that ppl would stand for it anyhow.

They aren't standing for it in deep-blue southern California, either.

[EdinVA]

It takes a while for the urine to warm em up I guess... 

LOL! This whole thing is funny to me... Pick a lake... pick a river.... heck, pick a pond or a creek... They couldn't stop that sort of thing here if they tried. Not that ppl would stand for it anyhow.

The problem in suburbia is that all the "natural" water is so polluted you don't dare swim in it...