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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1500 on: April 20, 2020, 11:30:48 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 11:17:19 am
Very true.  The part I highlighted is important to note, because too much post-surgical pain is actually a detriment to recovery.

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Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1501 on: April 20, 2020, 11:42:42 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 20, 2020, 11:30:48 am
@Cyber Liberty

Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.
 
I'll  tell you how I know it:  I had two hip replacement in two years, and I had to report my pain levels on a scale from 1-10 of how much I hurt.  I NEVER medicated the pain-level to zero, because if I did that I would never know if I was taking too much.  Keeping a 1 or 2 level pain told me I was not in that situation.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1502 on: April 20, 2020, 11:44:18 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 20, 2020, 11:30:48 am
@Cyber Liberty

Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.
Jose Cuervo told me.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1503 on: April 20, 2020, 12:05:25 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 20, 2020, 07:25:12 am
Ughhhhhh....

Oil down 29% overnight @$13.09/bbl.  Demand has dwindled significantly.

Rollercoaster begins again in earnest.
I saw WTI at $11 this morning, which means we are getting around $6....INSANITY.  Of course this month's contract is rolling over into the next and no one has room for delivery.  I've been trying to find some cheap frac tanks for sale to store some of our oil, but even those are expensive.  Anyone have some cheap in Texas?

The majors stocks are actually holding up pretty well today.  I was expecting a pretty good drop and was gonna nibble on some, but...….oh well. @catfish1957
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1504 on: April 20, 2020, 12:06:57 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2020, 11:23:18 am
Bakken Crude (ND Sweet Light) down below $10/bbl.

We are now in Armageddon territory.  The spigot will be squeezing down to a drip in 3..2...1....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1505 on: April 20, 2020, 12:10:03 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 12:05:25 pm
I saw WTI at $11 this morning, which means we are getting around $6....INSANITY.  Of course this month's contract is rolling over into the next and no one has room for delivery.  I've been trying to find some cheap frac tanks for sale to store some of our oil, but even those are expensive.  Anyone have some cheap in Texas?

The majors stocks are actually holding up pretty well today.  I was expecting a pretty good drop and was gonna nibble on some, but...….oh well. @catfish1957

$10/bbl oil is not a sustainable low price for an industrial world.  There are some folks out there making a future speculative killing right now.  Especially if some small players shake out.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1506 on: April 20, 2020, 12:23:04 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 20, 2020, 12:06:57 pm
We are now in Armageddon territory.  The spigot will be squeezing down to a drip in 3..2...1....
Helms: North Dakota's oil and gas industry has shut in at least 260,000 barrels of oil production
https://www.willistonherald.com/news/coronavirus/helms-north-dakotas-oil-and-gas-industry-has-shut-in-at-least-260-000-barrels/article_a8d3e4de-7e9b-11ea-8dbe-1ffaaf1e8312.html

Bakken regulator talks latest pandemic developments: 4,600 oil wells idled, new tank farms on horizon
https://bismarcktribune.com/bakken/bakken-regulator-talks-latest-pandemic-developments-4-600-oil-wells-idled-new-tank-farms-on/article_c9d06c8e-36ae-50fd-b34d-1b0f5b7b8561.html

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1507 on: April 20, 2020, 12:25:38 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on April 20, 2020, 10:05:05 am
What are 'COVID toes'? Dermatologists, podiatrists share strange findings
Maura Hohman
3 days ago


The longer the novel coronavirus circulates, the more unexpected symptoms pop up.

Now, another condition possibly linked to the coronavirus has captured researchers' attention. Dubbed "COVID toes" by the dermatology community, it can look like "purple lesions" on feet or hands, Dr. Esther Freeman, a dermatologist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, told TODAY. ...   But because COVID toes may appear before or without other coronavirus symptoms, Freeman believes it should be a criterion for testing.  ...

The condition usually starts with red or purple discoloration, and the skin may become raised or develop ulcerations, according to Freeman. It can be on hands, too.

Fox told TODAY it has appeared as "purple, red bumps" on the tips of digits and pads, or on the tops of toes or sides of feet.

People with COVID toes may feel the skin is hot, burning or itchy.   ... More, including photos, at MSN

There has to be several different strains circulating out there or it's mutating, unfortunately.  I would think that there possibly being different strains and mutation very plausible, it is going to make, making a vaccine very difficult.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1508 on: April 20, 2020, 12:29:54 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on April 20, 2020, 12:25:38 pm
There has to be several different strains circulating out there or it's mutating, unfortunately.  I would think that there possibly being different strains and mutation very plausible, it is going to make, making a vaccine very difficult.

Pathologists have learned to look for "COVID eyes" and "COVID toes."  They are official symptoms of the infection.  And, it's related to situations like the celebrity fellow who had to have a leg amputated.  Thrombosis is the culprit.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1509 on: April 20, 2020, 12:38:13 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 12:29:54 pm
Pathologists have learned to look for "COVID eyes" and "COVID toes."  They are official symptoms of the infection.  And, it's related to situations like the celebrity fellow who had to have a leg amputated.  Thrombosis is the culprit.

Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1510 on: April 20, 2020, 12:39:48 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 12:38:13 pm
Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).

Thank Yew!!  I couldn't remember the name, so I went with the generic "celebrity guy."
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1511 on: April 20, 2020, 12:43:18 pm »
More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1512 on: April 20, 2020, 12:44:35 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 12:39:48 pm
Thank Yew!!  I couldn't remember the name, so I went with the generic "celebrity guy."

No problem!   :beer:   I only knew who he was because we watch a lot of Blue Bloods, and he's been on more than one.

Broadway guy.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1513 on: April 20, 2020, 12:50:07 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 12:43:18 pm
More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.

@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1514 on: April 20, 2020, 12:55:14 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 12:43:18 pm
More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.

Yet another reason to be annoyed at elected officials turning prisoners loose on society, while curtailing self-defense purchases.   9999hair out0000
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1515 on: April 20, 2020, 12:56:06 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 20, 2020, 12:50:07 pm
@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?

Yes.  That's true for quite a few, I think.

(I hope I'm one!  :laugh:)

Some have no symptoms, though, and get them later.  It's a crazy virus.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1516 on: April 20, 2020, 12:56:43 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on April 20, 2020, 12:50:07 pm
@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?

@sneakypete

Absolutely correct!  It's also possible to get a false negative, where one can be affirmed "not infected," but still be a carrier.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1517 on: April 20, 2020, 12:57:30 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 12:38:13 pm
Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).
I've been binge watching Blue Bloods and am about halfway through.  Who was he? @musiclady
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1518 on: April 20, 2020, 12:57:52 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 12:55:14 pm
Yet another reason to be annoyed at elected officials turning prisoners loose on society, while curtailing self-defense purchases.   9999hair out0000

Selected non-violent offenders with intense supervision and mandatory quarantine should take care of it.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1519 on: April 20, 2020, 12:58:43 pm »
Our local cookie factory has 50 confirmed cases with more hitting daily.  They have over 300 workers.  Craaaap…..
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1520 on: April 20, 2020, 01:00:25 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 12:57:30 pm
I've been binge watching Blue Bloods and am about halfway through.  Who was he? @musiclady

He was the smart mouthed guy who hijacked the truck, knee capped the driver, called Danny "Defective," and then came back and rode with Danny to find a criminal (kept playing Candy Crush on his phone).

We just watched those!  (Fresh in my memory!  happy77).

ETA- Season 8 episode 10 - character's name was Victor Lugo.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1521 on: April 20, 2020, 01:01:00 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 12:57:52 pm
Selected non-violent offenders with intense supervision and mandatory quarantine should take care of it.

I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1522 on: April 20, 2020, 01:05:33 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 01:01:00 pm
I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.

That's what they're doing here.  Probably not in other states.

It's very, very, very selective.  Prisoners need to be within 90 days of being released, no murderers, sexual predators, etc. even being considered. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1523 on: April 20, 2020, 01:10:07 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on April 20, 2020, 01:05:33 pm
That's what they're doing here.  Probably not in other states.

It's very, very, very selective.  Prisoners need to be within 90 days of being released, no murderers, sexual predators, etc. even being considered.

I can tell you the Rat Sheriffs of LA and Maricopa (Phoenix) Counties are not doing that.  I don't think there are even bonds involved.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1524 on: April 20, 2020, 01:12:36 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 01:01:00 pm
I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.
Will that be the next shortage?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1525 on: April 20, 2020, 01:16:14 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 01:01:00 pm
I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.

What about those neck rings they used in the Running Man?  If you stray too far from base, the ring explodes, blowing off your head.  Can't think of a more effective incentive. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1526 on: April 20, 2020, 01:22:22 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 01:10:07 pm
I can tell you the Rat Sheriffs of LA and Maricopa (Phoenix) Counties are not doing that.  I don't think there are even bonds involved.

Not surprising, unfortunately.
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I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1527 on: April 20, 2020, 01:22:28 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2020, 12:23:04 pm
Helms: North Dakota's oil and gas industry has shut in at least 260,000 barrels of oil production
https://www.willistonherald.com/news/coronavirus/helms-north-dakotas-oil-and-gas-industry-has-shut-in-at-least-260-000-barrels/article_a8d3e4de-7e9b-11ea-8dbe-1ffaaf1e8312.html

Bakken regulator talks latest pandemic developments: 4,600 oil wells idled, new tank farms on horizon
https://bismarcktribune.com/bakken/bakken-regulator-talks-latest-pandemic-developments-4-600-oil-wells-idled-new-tank-farms-on/article_c9d06c8e-36ae-50fd-b34d-1b0f5b7b8561.html
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1528 on: April 20, 2020, 01:24:26 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 01:22:28 pm
WTI $4....You'd basically be paying them to haul it off today.  FREE GASOLINE EVERYONE! @Smokin Joe
Maybe a BOGO...gotta pay to run the pumps and for the driver to deliver it. **nononono*
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1529 on: April 20, 2020, 01:24:44 pm »
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He was the smart mouthed guy who hijacked the truck, knee capped the driver, called Danny "Defective," and then came back and rode with Danny to find a criminal (kept playing Candy Crush on his phone).

We just watched those!  (Fresh in my memory!  happy77).

ETA- Season 8 episode 10 - character's name was Victor Lugo.
  Hmm....don't remember him.  I must not be to the newer ones yet.  Danny's wife is sill alive on the one's I'm watching.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1530 on: April 20, 2020, 01:25:51 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 01:24:44 pm
  Hmm....don't remember him.  I must not be to the newer ones yet.  Danny's wife is sill alive on the one's I'm watching.

He's a notable character.  Once you've seen him, you'll remember him.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1531 on: April 20, 2020, 01:27:57 pm »
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WTI $4....You'd basically be paying them to haul it off today.  FREE GASOLINE EVERYONE! @Smokin Joe

Plastics manufacturers are ecstatic.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1532 on: April 20, 2020, 01:33:31 pm »
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Plastics manufacturers are ecstatic.
WTI now $2.70.  Brent is $26....so it's a contract thing.  Noone wants it...amazing.  Surely someone has a backyard pool they need filled...   happy77
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1533 on: April 20, 2020, 01:47:02 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2020, 01:12:36 pm
Will that be the next shortage?

How about pre-emptively amputating one leg, to hobble them?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1534 on: April 20, 2020, 01:47:14 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2020, 01:12:36 pm
Will that be the next shortage?

Naw.  The bureaucrats will just ignore the risk and forego the bracelets, before they ever let it be known in such a concrete way what they are doing to society by turning criminals loose, and jailing the (used to be) "free."
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1535 on: April 20, 2020, 01:49:21 pm »
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How about pre-emptively amputating one leg, to hobble them?

Too Islamic.  Bring these back, much cheaper:

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1536 on: April 20, 2020, 01:49:38 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 01:33:31 pm
WTI now $2.70.  Brent is $26....so it's a contract thing.  Noone wants it...amazing.  Surely someone has a backyard pool they need filled...   happy77

How are natural gas prices going?
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« Reply #1537 on: April 20, 2020, 01:50:50 pm »
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How are natural gas prices going?
$1.86
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1538 on: April 20, 2020, 02:06:50 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 01:33:31 pm
WTI now $2.70.  Brent is $26....so it's a contract thing.  Noone wants it...amazing.  Surely someone has a backyard pool they need filled...   happy77
ND light sweet showing at $9.04
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1539 on: April 20, 2020, 02:08:03 pm »
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ND light sweet showing at $9.04
WTI .90  No one wants to take delivery.  This is historic.
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« Reply #1540 on: April 20, 2020, 02:08:22 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 01:50:50 pm
$1.86

That is up ten cents.  Just want to make sure California liberals aren't benefiting off of this.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1541 on: April 20, 2020, 02:20:10 pm »
WTI is now trading at -7 bucks!  It's  in negative territory!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1542 on: April 20, 2020, 02:23:43 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 02:20:10 pm
WTI is now trading at -7 bucks!  It's  in negative territory!
Get paid to fill the SPR!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1543 on: April 20, 2020, 02:47:19 pm »
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Get paid to fill the SPR!
-$35.00 WTI
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1544 on: April 20, 2020, 02:49:44 pm »
I'm hearing people talking about "filling the SPR," but is there capacity for this?  How full are they already?  And...are there new salt domes and such being used?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1545 on: April 20, 2020, 02:51:25 pm »
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« Reply #1547 on: April 20, 2020, 03:09:43 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 20, 2020, 02:49:44 pm
I'm hearing people talking about "filling the SPR," but is there capacity for this?  How full are they already?  And...are there new salt domes and such being used?

Yes there is capacity and it does need to be refilled. They tried to pass a bill to do that last month and...surprise...Pelosi killed it in the House.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1548 on: April 20, 2020, 03:49:23 pm »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on April 20, 2020, 02:47:19 pm
-$35.00 WTI

-$38?

Commodity market glitch.  No oil company is going to give you $38/bbl and oil on delivery.  Insanity X 1000. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1549 on: April 20, 2020, 04:06:11 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on April 20, 2020, 03:49:23 pm
-$38?

Commodity market glitch.  No oil company is going to give you $38/bbl and oil on delivery.  Insanity X 1000.

There is something more complicated than the typical exchange of goods with money going on here.  It's a futures commodity market, and there are external forces at work like expiring contracts.

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