Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[mystery-ak]

   The Comprehensive Timeline of China’s COVID-19 Lies
By Jim Geraghty

March 23, 2020 9:13 AM

On today’s menu: a day-by-day, month-by-month breakdown of China’s coronavirus coverup and the irreparable damage it has caused around the globe.

The Timeline of a Viral Ticking Time Bomb

The story of the coronavirus pandemic is still being written. But at this early date, we can see all kinds of moments where different decisions could have lessened the severity of the outbreak we are currently enduring. You have probably heard variations of: “Chinese authorities denied that the virus could be transferred from human to human until it was too late.” What you have probably not heard is how emphatically, loudly, and repeatedly the Chinese government insisted human transmission was impossible, long after doctors in Wuhan had concluded human transmission was ongoing — and how the World Health Organization assented to that conclusion, despite the suspicions of other outside health experts.

Clearly, the U.S. government’s response to this threat was not nearly robust enough, and not enacted anywhere near quickly enough. Most European governments weren’t prepared either. Few governments around the world were or are prepared for the scale of the danger. We can only wonder whether accurate and timely information from China would have altered the way the U.S. government, the American people, and the world prepared for the oncoming danger of infection.

Some point in late 2019: The coronavirus jumps from some animal species to a human being. The best guess at this point is that it happened at a Chinese “wet market.”

more
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/

[Cyber Liberty]

 

[PeteS in CA]

The level of detail of this article is         ! And if it had ears, supporting links would be flowing out!

Just a quickie example:

* I knew that WHO had Tweeted on 1/14 that China had reported that there was no evidence of human-human transmission of coronavirus;

* And I knew that Trump started the screening of passengers arriving from China on 1/17;

* This article shows that it was already obvious in late December that human-human transmission had happened;

* This article shows that China maintained their false claim for several days after Trump started the passenger screening.

[TomSea]

I don't know if this was posted, the Nevada Democratic Governor is limiting the use of some medicines for Coronavirus patients. Brilliant (/s).

Mindy Robinson
Flag of United States
@iheartmindy
My scumbag governor just restricted the use of a prescription medicine proven to help those with coronavirus...and for what? All the imaginary cases of malaria we don’t have in Nevada? Way to hoard a possible cure for yourself, elites. 👌🏻
 
#VoteDemsOut

Governor Sisolak
@GovSisolak
Today, I signed an emergency regulation limiting the prescription & issuance of two drugs that have unproven results with treating COVID-19. While these drugs serve necessary medical purposes, this regulation protects the Nevadans who need them and prevents unnecessary hoarding.

https://twitter.com/iheartmindy/status/1242654365355147267

I haven't read into the matter, just heard about it on a general basis.  The governor's tweet says "limiting" versus "barring", so check up on it for oneself.

Anyway, some are up in arms about this decision.

[TomSea]

Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[Gefn]

Jackson Browne Tests Positive for Coronavirus: 'My Symptoms Are Pretty Mild'

Jackson Browne has tested positive for coronavirus (COVID-19).

Browne, 71, announced his diagnosis during an interview with Rolling Stone published on Tuesday, explaining, “My symptoms are really pretty mild.”

Browne explained he decided to get tested after he noticed he had “small cough” and a “temperature,” he told the magazine.

Browne told Rolling Stone his symptoms are “pretty mild” and added, “I don’t require any kind of medication and certainly not hospitalization or anything like that.”

The musician is now recovering at his home in Los Angeles, California and has been self isolating for about “10 days.”

https://people.com/music/jackson-browne-tests-positive-coronavirus/

[Gefn]

Wow. Jackson Browne and Prince Charles on the same day? And they’re both 71.

I hope they both get well.

[TomSea]

Re: All the Drugs Proving Anecdotally Effective Against COVID-19, and the Companies That Make Them
« Reply #3244 on: Today at 06:59:25 AM »

Throw in megadoses of Vitamin C to that list.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

@jmyrlefuller

This was from the other thread that is now closed BUT... it seems "Airborne", "Emergen-C",  those are important, I got Walgreen's budget brand.

In the same manner, I would think one should not be left vulnerable to say, a lot of sugar, I would think some things might lower immunity.

So, one hits the vitamin C (and other, zinc?) and this makes immunity stronger, would it actually fend off the virus activvely? Not allowing it to find a host? I would hope so.

[Polly Ticks]

Governor Sisolak
@GovSisolak
Today, I signed an emergency regulation limiting the prescription & issuance of two drugs that have unproven results with treating COVID-19. While these drugs serve necessary medical purposes, this regulation protects the Nevadans who need them and prevents unnecessary hoarding.

How do you hoard something that requires a prescription? 

[jmyrlefuller]

How do you hoard something that requires a prescription?

I think that might be more geared toward the fish tank cleaner market.

[Gefn]

How do you hoard something that requires a prescription?

I take some meds that usually only get a 30 day renewal at a time. Since February I’ve been getting 90 days on all my scripts whether I asked for it or not.

Now I’m down to like six weeks on most of them and I got a call from CVS to pick up two more scripts that were renewed without me asking for it, for another 90 days.

I hope the drug companies don’t think this is going to go though June or later, or they’re erring on the side of caution

[catfish1957]

Wow. Jackson Browne and Prince Charles on the same day? And they’re both 71.

I hope they both get well.

Jackson Browne got tested?  I guess his celebrity had nothing to do with him getting priority.  /s

[musiclady]

Doctors: Abortions during Coronavirus Irresponsible

Both Mississippi and Maryland have banned abortions during Coronavirus

The silver lining!

[jmyrlefuller]

US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-was-most-prepared-country-in-the-world-for-pandemics-johns-hopkins-study-found-in-2019

[TomSea]

Man Who Said ‘If I Get Corona, I Get Corona,’ Is Sorry
BY JACK PHILLIPS
March 25, 2020 Updated: March 25, 2020

A man who made headlines saying that he would continue to party in Florida amid the coronavirus pandemic has issued an apology.

“If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I’m not gonna let it stop me from partying,” Brady Sluder told news outlets last week in Miami, which drew international headlines and widespread condemnation. “We’re just out here having a good time. Whatever happens, happens.”

But in an Instagram post this week, Sluder issued an apology over his remarks.

Read more at:   https://m.theepochtimes.com/man-who-said-if-i-get-corona-i-get-corona-is-sorry_3285191.html

Yes, I did see him say this on the news.

[corbe]

Jackson Browne got tested?  I guess his celebrity had nothing to do with him getting priority.  /s

   Hasn't the entire NBA been tested?  No wonder the tests are in short supply.

[Hoodat]

2020-03-25     15:26 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global	5.67 ↓	3.93 ↑
US/Can/Mex	0.69 ↑	102.69 ↓
China	22.45 ↑	1.10 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Heading in right direction today.  568 total recoveries for US/CAN/MEX.

[Hoodat]

   Hasn't the entire NBA been tested?  No wonder the tests are in short supply.

We are being told that even if we have extended close contact with someone who tests positive, we cannot get tested until we show symptoms.

[DB]

@jmyrlefuller

This was from the other thread that is now closed BUT... it seems "Airborne", "Emergen-C",  those are important, I got Walgreen's budget brand.

In the same manner, I would think one should not be left vulnerable to say, a lot of sugar, I would think some things might lower immunity.

So, one hits the vitamin C (and other, zinc?) and this makes immunity stronger, would it actually fend off the virus activvely? Not allowing it to find a host? I would hope so.

Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C is much more effective as it has a much higher absorption rate while not disturbing your digestive tract. You can easily take 3 grams a day for example with no negative side effects.

[jmyrlefuller]

Another 5,000 new cases in NY. Growth appears to be solidly linear at this point.

[Hoodat]

Throw in megadoses of Vitamin C to that list.
https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

Although those treatments are IV, it is still a good idea to keep your system saturated.  I have been taking 1000 mg every two hours just as a precaution.  Vitamin C is an effective anti-histamine in very large doses, and can counteract the inflammation of the lungs which occurs with SARS-CoV-2.

[DB]

Although those treatments are IV, it is still a good idea to keep your system saturated.  I have been taking 1000 mg every two hours just as a precaution.  Vitamin C is an effective anti-histamine in very large doses, and can counteract the inflammation of the lungs which occurs with SARS-CoV-2.

You can get similar doses into your blood stream as an IV using Lypo-Spheric C.

[Hoodat]

Lypo-Spheric Vitamin C is much more effective as it has a much higher absorption rate while not disturbing your digestive tract. You can easily take 3 grams a day for example with no negative side effects.

I'm doing about 10 grams a day with zero negative effect.  I've never had any negative effect from massive Vitamin C doses.  Used to take it for poison ivy when I was younger to stop the itching.

[DB]

I'm doing about 10 grams a day with zero negative effect.  I've never had any negative effect from massive Vitamin C doses.  Used to take it for poison ivy when I was younger to stop the itching.

Most people get diarrhea with that much C by mouth. Only a fraction of your dose is actually absorbed.

[jmyrlefuller]

New York update:
Cases up 5,000, again. Third straight day it's hovered around that figure. We're approaching two weeks since social distancing began in earnest so if this works, numbers should start dropping quickly.

Noted that hospitalization increases have slowed and that areas outside New York City appear to be slowing faster. I don't have county-by-county, day-by-day comparisons to verify that.
Still at a plateau in new cases, but peak hospitalization is now projected at 21 days.

[Hoodat]

Most people get diarrhea with that much C by mouth. Only a fraction of your dose is actually absorbed.

Only a fraction?  Are you telling me I need to up it to 50 grams a day?

[catfish1957]

Only a fraction?  Are you telling me I need to up it to 50 grams a day?

I think the key is keeping the Vitamin C active like a metered titration.  Me...  going with 1000 mg , 3-4 times a day spread out during waking hours.

[corbe]

               Scary $hit, indeed.

[Polly Ticks]

               Scary $hit, indeed.

Tell me about it.  This is what we get for letting that idiot Andy Beshear get elected.

[DB]

Only a fraction?  Are you telling me I need to up it to 50 grams a day?

All I'm saying is most of the C you are taking doesn't make it into your blood stream. It promptly goes out the other end...

A 1.5 gram IV of C is similar to a about 8 or 9 grams of traditional oral C in terms of what makes it to your bloodstream. Two grams of Lypo-Spheric C is similar to the 1.5 gram IV. So if you want something similar to the 1.5 grams of IV C three times a day you'd have to take 25 grams of traditional oral C a day. The Lypo-Spheric equivalent would be about 5 grams a day with zero side affects.

[catfish1957]

               Scary $hit, indeed.

Getting screwed over by an overbearing, intrusive  government here in Kentucky?

Call 1-800-bendovr

[Hoodat]

I think the key is keeping the Vitamin C active like a metered titration.  Me...  going with 1000 mg , 3-4 times a day spread out during waking hours.

Yeah, that's my objective.  I try popping one every 2-3 hrs.

[roamer_1]

Although those treatments are IV, it is still a good idea to keep your system saturated.  I have been taking 1000 mg every two hours just as a precaution.  Vitamin C is an effective anti-histamine in very large doses, and can counteract the inflammation of the lungs which occurs with SARS-CoV-2.

Yep.
2 EmergenCs in the morning, and then switch to 2x500 tablets every time I eat (incl snacks)... so about the same... The EmergenCs have B vits in them too, so don't take em in the afternoon, or you might have trouble sleeping.

Staying just this side of the squirts, so I am dosed up alright.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1242777450662244352

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
This is really great news! I am so happy I can barely speak. He may have been a terrible presidential candidate and an even worse U.S. Senator, but he is a RINO, and I like him a lot!

Quote Tweet
Breitbart News @BreitbartNews
Mitt Romney Tests Negative for Coronavirus https://trib.al/ucI75Z2

6:36 AM · Mar 25, 2020

President Trump sounds a little sarcastic to me.  Anybody else think so?

[Cyber Liberty]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1242777450662244352
6:36 AM · Mar 25, 2020

President Trump sounds a little sarcastic to me.  Anybody else think so?

Not at all!!!!

(See what I did there?  LOL!)

[Fishrrman]

A slight diversion, but not-too-far-off-topic:

Years ago, I remember reading a short story by Ray Bradbury, "The Fruit At The Bottom Of The Bowl". It tells about a man who committed a murder and becomes obsessed at removing any trace of evidence by cleaning every object at the scene of the crime.

You can grab a pdf of it here:
https://epdf.pub/queue/the-fruit-at-the-bottom-of-the-bowl66be73be030f9de48d562f8255f3148390224.html

Something to keep in mind as we try to "wipe away" the virus...!

[bigheadfred]

I think the key is keeping the Vitamin C active like a metered titration.  Me...  going with 1000 mg , 3-4 times a day spread out during waking hours.

Eat something fatty with the C. Your body will only absorb so much. Good fat helps with the absorption. A diet richer in things with Vitamin C are 'probably' more effective, with adding some pills, etc. than megadosing.

This is anecdotal info. I am not an MD.

[Sighlass]

Reported cases vs deaths in state of La (state) at around a 3.7% death rate... understand that not everyone has been tested, but that is a killer rate.

350,000,000 folks times 3.7 ain't pretty. Almost 13 million... hopefully a lot of folks just didn't get tested... but we don't know.

OTOH... my state has nearly 500 infected after testing and none have died... 0%...

At what level does a state medical staff get overwhelmed and the rates of deaths suffer?

Being my state has basically doubled the infections in two days, and the charts show steep incline, we will soon find out.

[bigheadfred]

Idaho issues statewide ‘stay in place’ order over COVID-19

Don't know exactly what that means. I think the guv is going to do a speech later tonight or tomorrow.

[Cyber Liberty]

Idaho issues statewide ‘stay in place’ order over COVID-19

Don't know exactly what that means. I think the guv is going to do a speech later tonight or tomorrow.

Here they closed all the bars and Restaurants today because my County got patient #1.  Gatherings kept small.  Maybe some kind of curfew.  Martial law stuff.

[bigheadfred]

All I know is if the govt starts handing out bailout money I vote they start at the bottom (me) and work their way up.

[Cyber Liberty]

All I know is if the govt starts handing out bailout money I vote they start at the bottom (me) and work their way up.

I'd be fine with that.  My little town of 35K just had about 8K become instantly unemployed last Wednesday when the NV Governor closed all the casinos and restaurants (the hotels closed with them), and I'd prefer they get the cash rather than I.

I'm glad the casinos donated all their perishables from the restaurants to the local food banks.  That will be a big help for the employees.

[bigheadfred]

I'd be fine with that.  My little town of 35K just had about 8K become instantly unemployed last Wednesday when the NV Governor closed all the casinos and restaurants (the hotels closed with them), and I'd prefer they get the cash rather than I.

I'm glad the casinos donated all their perishables from the restaurants to the local food banks.  That will be a big help for the employees.

When they closed the schools a week ago the neighbor gave us a box full of green jello cups meant for school lunches.

Anyone want some green jello?

[catfish1957]

Just saw this headline @Yahoo Finance. Good news if you ask me.

J&J's Chief Scientific Officer predicts vaccinations against coronavirus within 12 months

[Bigun]

Just saw this headline @Yahoo Finance. Good news if you ask me.

J&J's Chief Scientific Officer predicts vaccinations against coronavirus within 12 months

Probably far sooner if all the red tape could be cut.

[Hoodat]

Reported cases vs deaths in state of La (state) at around a 3.7% death rate... understand that not everyone has been tested, but that is a killer rate.

Louisiana now has a statewide stay-at-home order.  I am currently under quarantine at work for the next two weeks.

Death rates (i.e. deaths per 100 confirmed cases) by age group are as follows:

Under 30  →  0 %
30 - 39  →  0.78 %
40 - 49  →  1.93 %
50 - 59  →  3.87 %
60 - 69  →  2.43 %
70 +      →  10.53 %

Two thirds of all cases are in Orleans or Jefferson Parish.

http://ldh.la.gov/coronavirus/

[jafo2010]

Fox News at Night with Shannon Bream...tonight's show in my humble opinion serves no one in this country.

First, she had Robert Reich, an economist that worked for three administration, a man I never heard utter one thing I ever agreed with, despite having been a Democrat at one time, who said we are facing a six or seven month shut down of the country.  Well, oh ya, if that happens, we might as well rename the country Venezuela II.  This man's opinion serves no one, not even the bizarre, radical left Democommies.

Then on top of this fool, she has on Dr. Mark Makary, from John Hopkins no less, and he is STILL singing the tune we will follow Italy when there is plenty of EVIDENCE to suggest otherwise.  Fox News loses credibility having these schmucks on...just terrible.  This is the moron claiming we will have 2 million dead this year.  Ugggh.  The man is a jack*ss!!!

So now, the vote for the corona virus by the  House will not be held until Friday.  Great sense of urgency by these MFers!!!

JUST REMEMBER, EVERY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE CONTINUES GETTING PAID WHILE THEY SIT AT HOME, WITH FULL BENEFITS.   Most people here are retired, but think of those working stiffs that are working class or lower middle class that are one paycheck away from disaster, and these people are jerking around.  As it is, the Dems are getting things in the bill that have nothing to do with the outbreak.  How despicable.  I cannot tell you how it offends me they have included tens of millions for the Kennedy Center in this legislation, and a dozen other pork items that are nothing short of disgusting.

Nothing would make me happier than for only two Dems to get elected in November.  Pelosi and AOC.  They are important for Republican votes.  The rest can go to haddies.

[jmyrlefuller]

Rural America watches pandemic erupt in cities as fear grows
https://apnews.com/316123a978e61bc6df7863f05fa419fa

Also includes an up-to-date, county-by-county mapping of cases.

[GrouchoTex]

Azithromycin  has been used, with z-pack steroids, as a treatment for COPD flareups for quite awhile.
In fact, I had the combo after a flare up in January.
Theory that if it is bacterial, the azithromycin kills it.
If it is viral, the steroids won't kill it but will help you breathe easier.
I do not know anything, other than what I an reading, about that malaria drugs and why/why not would it work.
Seems odd, but it may work.

Vitamins A,B,C,D, and Zinc all help the immune system.

You can take as much C as your stomach and bowels can handle.
The body will just pass through what you don't use, so I've been told.
Vitamin D has limitations on how much you can take.
I do not know about A,B, and Zinc, the safety limits of those.

[Idiot]

Ok...how many other people are too lazy to shave, since we are stuck at home during this quarantine?

We are to hit over 90 degrees today, hopefully this will help kill the nasty virus.