Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL

[ChemEngrMBA]

Again:  "The quantity of fatalities is a number that is never going to go down."

Wow. Deep.  People are not going to come back to life.    You act as if you said something worth reading.  It was not, and your insistent repetition of the inane just earned you a spot on my Ignore List.

ciao

[Cyber Liberty]

Again:  "The quantity of fatalities is a number that is never going to go down."


50/day is a rate.  It denotes the derivative of the quantity equation (i.e. the total number of deaths over time).  I never said anything about the death rate - only the total number of deaths (which will never go down).

The death quantity equation will eventually normalize.  Once that happens, an accurate assessment of the death rate can be derived.  But not until then.

Buzzkill.

[ChemEngrMBA]

Buzzkill (Hoodat).

Thank you.   Well done, Cyber. 

[Hoodat]

Wow. Deep.  People are not going to come back to life.    You act as if you said something worth reading.  It was not, and your insistent repetition of the inane just earned you a spot on my Ignore List.

ciao

That was exactly my point.  All this incessant body count bullshit is a worthless endeavor.  But hey, if you can't figure that out from my post, then you really don't need to read them.  Ignore away.

Again, at some point, the curve is going to normalize.  Until that happens, it does no good to constantly post about how many people have died to date.  The point is to be able to accurately predict future events.  And are nowhere near that point yet.

[XenaLee]

What nonsense.  "Recoveries" can only make reference to people who have been tested and diagnosed with the illness.  Please.  The overwhelming majority NEVER get tested because their symptoms were insignificant.

THE MOST USEFUL STATISTIC is the number of American fatalities.  It's around 60 right now.
That's fewer than the accident fatalities today!  So the moral is:  DON'T DRIVE TO THE STORE!

80,000 died of flu in 2017-2018 so extend your panic today over 60 deaths this year.

The leftist media hype would have you think people are dropping dead in the streets vs. the actual reported mortality rate of this particular virus.  It is working in one respect, however.  It is melting down Trump's 'excellent' economy and will result in massive unemployment.... if the idiot left gets their way.

[Cyber Liberty]

Thank you.   Well done, Cyber.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

[ChemEngrMBA]

Brevity is the soul of wit.

Yer killin' me!! 

[ChemEngrMBA]

The leftist media hype would have you think people are dropping dead in the streets vs. the actual reported mortality rate of this particular virus.  It is working in one respect, however.  It is melting down Trump's 'excellent' economy and will result in massive unemployment.... if the idiot left gets their way.

And how happy that would make them.

"Pray for peace but train for war" refers to the Latin phrase.

Si vis pacem, para bellum (Classical Latin: [siː wiːs ˈpaːkemː ˈpara ˈbellumː]) is a Latin adage translated as "If you want peace, prepare for war".

[Cyber Liberty]

Yer killin' me!!

Not much more to say, friend.  The panic has already caused way, way more damage than the COVA-19 ever will, even the worst-case scenarios floated to date.

[Hoodat]

The leftist media hype would have you think people are dropping dead in the streets vs. the actual reported mortality rate of this particular virus.

Which is why I am sick of that leftist media hype being posted here.

[skeeter]

Not much more to say, friend.  The panic has already caused way, way more damage than the COVA-19 ever will, even the worst-case scenarios floated to date.

It sure would be helpful if people weren't so determined to be panicked. I do not think they are fully aware of what they are helping bring on.

[musiclady]

The leftist media hype would have you think people are dropping dead in the streets vs. the actual reported mortality rate of this particular virus.  It is working in one respect, however.  It is melting down Trump's 'excellent' economy and will result in massive unemployment.... if the idiot left gets their way.

I haven't read a word from the leftist media......... just listened to healthcare experts, scientists, pastors and those who have nothing to gain from any meltdown of the economy (including the President and VP who spoke with our Governor today).

Prevention is the way to keep this from becoming what it has been in Italy.  Prevention.

The left may be cheering on disease and economic collapse, but good people all over the country are trying to prevent both.

The idea is to minimize the crisis so that our healthcare facilities and hospitals can handle the increase in cases and those who are at great health risk.

Flattening out the line is imperative to keeping this under control.

[XenaLee]

And how happy that would make them.

"Pray for peace but train for war" refers to the Latin phrase.

Si vis pacem, para bellum (Classical Latin: [siː wiːs ˈpaːkemː ˈpara ˈbellumː]) is a Latin adage translated as "If you want peace, prepare for war".

Exactly.   

[XenaLee]

Which is why I am sick of that leftist media hype being posted here.

Yeah....ditto/same here.   

[XenaLee]

I haven't read a word from the leftist media......... just listened to healthcare experts, scientists, pastors and those who have nothing to gain from any meltdown of the economy (including the President and VP who spoke with our Governor today).

Prevention is the way to keep this from becoming what it has been in Italy.  Prevention.

The left may be cheering on disease and economic collapse, but good people all over the country are trying to prevent both.

The idea is to minimize the crisis so that our healthcare facilities and hospitals can handle the increase in cases and those who are at great health risk.

Flattening out the line is imperative to keeping this under control.

I know what the "idea" is.   I'm just not convinced that their methods (shutting everything down for 'who but God' knows for how long) will achieve that ""prevention"".   I'm thinking it might end up causing more harm than the actual virus could or would cause.   Unintended consequences that perhaps aren't so "unintended" by a certain faction in America.  JS....

[roamer_1]

It sure would be helpful if people weren't so determined to be panicked. I do not think they are fully aware of what they are helping bring on.

I don't think they can help but BE panicked at this point. Whole sectors of industry shutting down, new deliveries will be intermittent guesswork. If it were only for a week or two is one thing - But they're preaching about all summer long. No wonder folks are driving hard for supply while it is here.

Not to mention everyone at home, and staying home, which is a whole nuther dynamic in household supply - usage will double at the household level...

So the whole subject, the way it has been delivered, is nearly designed to send folks rampant.

[TomSea]

I know what the "idea" is.   I'm just not convinced that their methods (shutting everything down for 'who but God' knows for how long) will achieve that ""prevention"".   I'm thinking it might end up causing more harm than the actual virus could or would cause.   Unintended consequences that perhaps aren't so "unintended" by a certain faction in America.  JS....

Maybe, the flip side, is maybe if we don't act to contain, could we be like China and Iran? People dropping in the streets from it? Burning bodies in crematoriums? That'd be horrible too and I'm not saying that would happen but that seems to be the worse case scenario.

[roamer_1]

I know what the "idea" is.   I'm just not convinced that their methods (shutting everything down for 'who but God' knows for how long) will achieve that ""prevention"".   I'm thinking it might end up causing more harm than the actual virus could or would cause.   Unintended consequences that perhaps aren't so "unintended" by a certain faction in America.  JS....

That's right.

[TomSea]

14 hours later - 69

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

That's a real good link, I don't see why one would find fault with that unless, they just don't want to know the facts OR it just makes them uncomfortable. Believe me, we are all uncomfortable about it.

Hardly leftist media as someone said OR at least, prove it.

Yes, that's the way to beat it, have no knowledge of the situation, that should work.   

Why don't we use the same approach with terrorists.

Ostriches, sand.

[libertybele]

I haven't read a word from the leftist media......... just listened to healthcare experts, scientists, pastors and those who have nothing to gain from any meltdown of the economy (including the President and VP who spoke with our Governor today).

Prevention is the way to keep this from becoming what it has been in Italy.  Prevention.

The left may be cheering on disease and economic collapse, but good people all over the country are trying to prevent both.

The idea is to minimize the crisis so that our healthcare facilities and hospitals can handle the increase in cases and those who are at great health risk.

Flattening out the line is imperative to keeping this under control.

Agreed.  No one wants to see economic downturn, especially when our economy has staged a come back under Trump, but we can't shove this under the carpet and pretend that it doesn't exist or just decide people are over reacting. Not reacting and not nipping this in the bud is only going to exacerbate the problem with the virus exploding as it has done in Italy. 

It is better to prepare for this pandemic than to be complacent.  Either we deal with it now while we have a chance to contain it or deal with the consequences which will have a far greater impact on our economy and our country. 

Precautions = prevention of spreading this virus and containing it.  It is not going to happen over night and a lot of people are going to face economic hardship. If we don't contain this a lot of people are going to be facing the hardship of losing a loved one or loved ones. 

We would all just like to ignore this and go back to business as usual.  This isn't the flu virus.  This is more fatal. Italy has a mortality rate of 8%.  I think it would be prudent to pay attention to that number.

[Hoodat]

Maybe, the flip side, is maybe if we don't act to contain, could we be like China and Iran? People dropping in the streets from it? Burning bodies in crematoriums?

Please stop.  Please.

[musiclady]

I know what the "idea" is.   I'm just not convinced that their methods (shutting everything down for 'who but God' knows for how long) will achieve that ""prevention"".   I'm thinking it might end up causing more harm than the actual virus could or would cause.   Unintended consequences that perhaps aren't so "unintended" by a certain faction in America.  JS....

Well, I'm clearly not as much of a cynic as a few of you here are, but in listening to press conferences about the medical crisis we're facing and the steps that are being taken here in Ohio, I feel confident that the measures healthcare professionals and scientists are advising are being taken to keep us alive.

Since this is uncharted territory, obviously no one knows for sure what will work best.  In Great Britain they're taking a hands off approach (like they did in Italy) and are treating it like a flu virus where exposure creates immunity.

They're guessing.

I prefer a more aggressively preventative approach (again, the one recommended by people in health care) that will keep more people from being exposed and keep the ventilators available for the people who need them the most.

My very conservative husband who was in hospital administration for over 40 years concurs.  We both sat in our family room and watched the video stream of our church service and were very thankful that churches are taking a responsible and loving approach to what could be very dangerous for the public.

The economy in Ohio will surely recover.   Some of the victims of COVID-19 won't.

[skeeter]

Please stop.  Please.

The powers that be here in the SF Bay Area have decreed a three week closure of ‘non essential’ businesses. Three weeks.

This is gonna hurt.

[libertybele]

Please stop.  Please.

The message is clear to me.  If we do NOT contain this now, we could pay the consequences later on and the economic downturn could be worse.  What makes you think that we couldn't see the same consequences Italy is suffering with an 8% mortality rate?

[TomSea]

The message is clear to me.  If we do NOT contain this now, we could pay the consequences later on and the economic downturn could be worse.  What makes you think that we couldn't see the same consequences Italy is suffering with an 8% mortality rate?

Totally agree.

Hey, we don't know for sure but I would say there is much less reason for the skeptics to be right.

None of us are president or our senators, speaking of Senators, Cruz quarantines himself, so did Scott and Graham and yet, they are going to be wrong? We might not like all of them but these people obviously see a threat and I respect that.

It's like you were saying, some people seem to speak absurdly, ignore it. And for all I know, maybe they are the voice of reason but I don't really see it.  I've seen guys in hazmat suits for 2 straight months dealing with this.



Just saying "leftist media", I mean, I'm sorry, nobody wants to be rude, that just isn't cutting it.