World Coronavirus News II with Updates

[TomSea]

Ireland and UK added to the Europe ban:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

And this is interesting, though it's from Modern Ghana and this seems like an offbeat website... still, we know China steals intellectual property....

China’s Bitter Lesson From Pirating Patented Properties



A rift between United States and China this week can only be understood by the two of them. United States is accusing China of not being transparent. China is also saying it is the United States who should be transparent and admitting for the first time that the virus is not theirs, but the U.S’s. How did it find its way to China?

A patent document below shows that the virus was first patented by United States in 2006 and again in 2018. The patent is still pending till 2035. It belongs to the U.S military. How did it get to Wuhan laboratories?

Normally, if it is established that someone has stolen a patented intellectual property of another, the victim can charge the thief for monetary damages. But if it were you, would you come forward to claim damages, considering the tremendous damages the stolen property is causing around the globe, leaving huge humanitarian and economic devastations along its trails?

Much more at:  https://www.modernghana.com/news/989161/chinas-bitter-lesson-from-pirating-patented-prope.html

The author probably got this info in turn somewhere, wow.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Ireland and UK added to the Europe ban:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

And this is interesting, though it's from Modern Ghana and this seems like an offbeat website... still, we know China steals intellectual property....
The author probably got this info in turn somewhere, wow.

That is a pretty deep rabbit hole I don't want to go down.

[Hoodat]

Ireland and UK added to the Europe ban:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

And this is interesting, though it's from Modern Ghana and this seems like an offbeat website... still, we know China steals intellectual property....
The author probably got this info in turn somewhere, wow.

Good grief.  If the US Military were ever able to genetically create a virus, they would NEVER EVER EVER get it patented.  It would remain a trade secret, like Coca-Cola.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://www.fox4news.com/news/travelers-report-long-lines-at-us-customs-after-returning-to-dfw-airport

Travelers report long lines at US Customs after returning to DFW Airport

DALLAS - Many travelers who were returning to the United States after traveling abroad waited hours in close quarters at U.S. Customs at DFW Airport on Saturday.

FOX4 spoke to several people who said they had to wait more than three hours, and they were standing very close to people the entire time, not following social distancing protocols outlined by health officials.

This is evidence of what some people are saying is the greatest travel ban in the history.

Welcome Back.

[DB]

Good grief.  If the US Military were ever able to genetically create a virus, they would NEVER EVER EVER get it patented.  It would remain a trade secret, like Coca-Cola.

Yep. You only patent something you want to make public. Otherwise it is a company secret. And if this patent were true there'd be a patent number assigned to it and easily confirmed.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

The danger with covid-19 is when the lungs become inflamed, causing air sacs to fill with fluid.  This condition is detectable and needs to be treated without having to know which virus caused it.  In a perfect world, we would like to have everyone tested repeatedly.  But this virus was unknown four months ago.  The fact that we can test for a virus at all is a medical miracle.  And the fact that we have a test developed so quickly for this virus is even more remarkable.  We are fortunate to have what we have.

Thanx for your reply @Hoodat I understand COVID-19 was unknown 4 months ago.  I don't understand why Italy, South Korea, Iran, Spain, Germany, France...screw it...Everybody is kicking our asses in testing.

[DB]

Thanx for your reply @Hoodat I understand COVID-19 was unknown 4 months ago.  I don't understand why Italy, South Korea, Iran, Spain, Germany, France...screw it...Everybody is kicking our asses in testing.

Primarily because the CDC demanded top down control of testing in only CDC approved government labs. This policy was implemented prior to Trump.

The pin heads decided policy without fully understanding the consequences of their brilliant planning with a real pandemic.

Now private labs are allowed to do the testing and there are obviously vastly more private labs throughout the country.

The bottom line is I don't believe testing is all that important. Not in terms of actual medical outcomes anyway. To date no one has indicated there's any specific treatment for COVIR-19 beyond keeping oxygen in the patients lungs. It would be nice to know factual statistics about how this progresses for future pandemic planning but that's about it. If you have a serious problem breathing you need to go get medical care. And assume you contagious if you're sick. Period.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Primarily because the CDC demanded top down control of testing in only CDC approved government labs. This policy was implemented prior to Trump.

The pin heads decided policy without fully understanding the consequences of their brilliant planning with a real pandemic.

Now private labs are allowed to do the testing and there are obviously vastly more private labs throughout the country.

The bottom line is I don't believe testing is all that important. Not in terms of actual medical outcomes anyway. To date no one has indicated there's any specific treatment for COVIR-19 beyond keeping oxygen in the patients lungs. It would be nice to know factual statistics about how this progresses for future pandemic planning but that's about it. If you have a serious problem breathing you need to go get medical care. And assume you contagious if you're sick. Period.

I appreciate the information and struggle to help me clarify your opinion.  Stay healthy @DB 

[truth_seeker]

The world is in the "Fog of War" stage.

Wash hands. Wash clothes, cover your coughs, Avoid crowds if possible.

Survival is 92% for age 70-79, 85% for age 80+ of those who contract the disease.

Look on the bright side. You are probably not even going to catch it, and if you do you will probably live.

Don't panic, and if you do panic, don't let kids see it.

[TomSea]

Erik Solheim
@ErikSolheim
Watch how coronavirus cases spread across the globe since the beginning of the year

(SEE MAP)

https://twitter.com/ErikSolheim/status/1239120417568239616

Marco Rubio@marcorubio

I spent weeks  pushing this. Right now the answer is we don’t have one.

We can produce ventilators but we need component parts from other nations (including #China).

We need all hands on deck on this now.

And moving forward we MUST rebuild our nations industrial capacity.

More: 

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1238889618034118657

[TomSea]

Very current photo, I don't see one mask.

Myanmar Steps up Efforts to Calm Fears Over Coronavirus Amid Rumors, Panic Buying
2020-03-13
Myanmar citizens grab groceries from shelves in a supermarket in the commercial capital Yangon, after hearing rumors related to the coronavirus, March 12, 2020.

The Myanmar government on Friday urged citizens not to overreact to the coronavirus pandemic and assured them that food supplies are adequate, amid panic buying and rumors about the spread of highly contagious virus in the country, which has yet to see any confirmed cases.

The Myanmar President’s Office ordered state and regional governments to cancel all public events and mass gatherings until the end of April, including the Thingyan Festival, also known as the Water Festival, which celebrates the New Year and falls on April 13-16.

See more at: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/myanmar/panic-buying-03132020175924.html

That's what we have, panic buying with some of those goods.

North Koreans Ignore Government Advice to Wear Masks to Prevent COVID-19
2020-03-13


Workers at the Songyo Knitwear Factory in Pyongyang, North Korea produce masks for protection against COVID-19 on February 6, 2020.

Residents of North Korea, facing a confusing mix of warnings and an information gag order that has left them uninformed about the COVID-19 epidemic, are ignoring the advice of authorities to wear face masks in public to prevent the spread of the deadly illness, RFA has learned.

As of Friday afternoon, North Korea has still not reported a single confirmed case of coronavirus. The government has, however, taken comprehensive preventative measures, such as cancelling large events, quarantining entire counties, and converting a large hotel in the capital Pyongyang into an isolation center. Experts believe that it is extremely unlikely that North Korea is virus-free.

Sources told RFA’s Korean Service March 6 that interest in masks among North Koreans is very low because the government has not been forthcoming with how widely COVID-19 has spread.

Read more at:  https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/nk-coronavirus-mask-03132020173132.html

I wonder if these people, "most" at least can get on the net, hear news from South Korea and other places... they've got to know this is all going on... of course, NK is massaging the numbers or just not saying anything at all.

[TomSea]

Poor South Korea, they are blaming their outbreak partly on this "cult" or church, see the articles. It is probably like they say. But I've never gotten it clear what were the EXACT actions that led to the Church spreading the disease and into the general population.

2020 coronavirus pandemic in South Korea

....

On 8 March, KCDC in South Korea announced that 79.4% of confirmed corona-19 cases were related to group infection. KCDC also announced that outbreak associated with Shincheonji Church totaled 4,482 infections, accounting for 62.8% of the total confirmed cases.[54][55]

Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_South_Korea#19_February%E2%80%93present_outbreak

'I felt betrayed': University graduate on her experience with Singapore chapter of South Korea’s Shincheonji Church

SINGAPORE: It started as it often does – someone approaching you as you make your way to the MRT station. Asking innocuously if you are a Christian or if you’d like to know more or meet someone who can help deepen your understanding of the faith.

For Fiona*, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, it was this exact scenario that eventually saw her going for meetings with a group linked to the Shincheonji Church of Jesus the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony (SCJ).

The Korean church has been at the centre of a storm in South Korea because it has registered at least half of all COVID-19 infections there.

See more at: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/shincheonji-church-singapore-covid19-coronavirus-grad-experience-12492396

Coronavirus: Wuhan Shincheonji member says church followed quarantine rules
Mimi Lau
South China Morning Post    3 March 2020

A member of the Shincheonji Church of Jesus in China’s Wuhan, the epicentre of the deadly coronavirus outbreak, said the group suspended meetings in the city in December and rejected claims it was a catalyst for the spread of the virus in South Korea, where the church was founded.

The member, a 28-year-old kindergarten teacher who uses the social media name Angel, said she had not heard of other Shincheonji followers in Wuhan coming down with the disease, which causes a type of pneumonia known as Covid-19. She said she was in touch with other members online.

“I don’t know about [Shincheonji churches] in other Chinese cities, but we have been following the isolation measures from the government,” she said in a telephone interview.

Read more at:  https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-wuhan-shincheonji-member-says-084029301.html

So, South Korea is also where that Church of Scientology is which some are wary about.

[Gefn]

Coronavirus: Over-70s will be asked to self-isolate, potentially for months (UK)

The government will also tell firms "if you produce a ventilator, we'll buy it" amid fears of a potential shortage in hospitals.

The health secretary has told Sky News that over-70s will be asked to self-isolate "in the coming weeks" - and it could potentially last for months.

Matt Hancock also told the Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme that the UK was likely to need "many more" ventilators than the current 5,000, amid concerns hospitals will come under intense pressure.

He said the growing coronavirus outbreak meant "the elderly and vulnerable" would be asked to "shield themselves by self-isolating".

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-over-70s-will-be-asked-to-self-isolate-potentially-for-months-11957770

[Gefn]

Coronavirus: Over-70s will be asked to self-isolate, potentially for months (UK)

The government will also tell firms "if you produce a ventilator, we'll buy it" amid fears of a potential shortage in hospitals.

The health secretary has told Sky News that over-70s will be asked to self-isolate "in the coming weeks" - and it could potentially last for months.

Matt Hancock also told the Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme that the UK was likely to need "many more" ventilators than the current 5,000, amid concerns hospitals will come under intense pressure.

He said the growing coronavirus outbreak meant "the elderly and vulnerable" would be asked to "shield themselves by self-isolating".

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-over-70s-will-be-asked-to-self-isolate-potentially-for-months-11957770

How many people here think 70 isn’t old? And is the Queen, Charles, Anne, members of Parliament and Lords and QC’s exempt?

[TomSea]

On Italy, some chatter says maybe Italians sort of blew off the warnings, I can see that.  Thinking, hey, what me worry?

Dr. Najat AlSaeed
@Najat_AlSaeed
Replying to
@newtgingrich
With the politicizing of the universities’ campuses and leftist instructors brain washing students with their ideologies, I see e-learning is a bless.Different technologies approaches can be robot instructors. We might have better independent thinkers than brain washed graduates.

https://twitter.com/Najat_AlSaeed/status/1239142797372018690

Jenan Moussa
@jenanmoussa
Italy reported its biggest day-to-day jump in cases of #COVID19.

3497 new cases - a 20% increase in 24 hrs.

Authorities cited irresponsible behavior by citizens, who despite warnings headed to beaches or ski resorts, especially after closure of schools.

https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/1239139793168224256

Rasha Al Aqeedi
@RashaAlAqeedi
·
18m
Replying to
@jenanmoussa
Despite the lock down and quarantine? Is this from people testing or how?
Jenan Moussa
@jenanmoussa
·
15m
Yes despite the lockdown. People are crazy.
🤦🏻‍♀️

Lots more on twitter... some stuff not suitable for posting but it is saying, they are opening up the "sealed apartments" and it's not good.  Again, this is unofficial reporting.

[Neverdul]

Over half of France's 300 coronavirus ICU patients under age 60

https://www.wnep.com/article/news/nation-world/over-half-of-frances-300-coronavirus-icu-patients-under-age-60/523-9c26ad1f-f633-4409-aba4-1fe054733fba

PARIS, France — More than half of the 300 people in intensive care units in France with the new virus are under 60.

The head of the national health agency, Jerome Salomon, announced the statistic Saturday night as France saw another jump in new virus cases.

For most people, the virus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. Of the 91 people who have died in France, 71 were over 75, Salomon said.

If you are under the age of 60 and otherwise healthy, meaning not being immunosuppressed or having heart or lung disease or obesity or HBP or being a current or former smoker, your chances of dying are low. But a stint in the ICU at any age is serious.

This is what is concerning health officials – an overload of patients requiring critical care. And added to that, what happens if many healthcare workers become infected and not able to care for patients.

[TomSea]

Coronavirus: Over-70s will be asked to self-isolate, potentially for months (UK)

The government will also tell firms "if you produce a ventilator, we'll buy it" amid fears of a potential shortage in hospitals.

The health secretary has told Sky News that over-70s will be asked to self-isolate "in the coming weeks" - and it could potentially last for months.

Matt Hancock also told the Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme that the UK was likely to need "many more" ventilators than the current 5,000, amid concerns hospitals will come under intense pressure.

He said the growing coronavirus outbreak meant "the elderly and vulnerable" would be asked to "shield themselves by self-isolating".

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-over-70s-will-be-asked-to-self-isolate-potentially-for-months-11957770

[TomSea]

TROOPS ON THE STREETS Army brought in to guard hospitals and supermarkets in UK fight against coronavirus
    Alex Winter
    14 Mar 2020, 23:24Updated: 15 Mar 2020

TROOPS could guard hospitals and supermarkets in drastic new measures set to be rolled out in a bid to tackle the coronavirus.

It comes as the death toll in the UK soared to 21 and plans were announced to isolate people over the age of 70 for four months.

Getty photo shows troops on street, see link.

Shoppers have stripped supermarket shelves of essentials including toilet paper and dried pasta as officials say they've moved into the second phase of plans to contain the deadly bug.

Read more at:   https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11175682/army-brought-into-guard-hospitals-supermarkets-coronavirus/

[TomSea]

Coronavirus survivors may suffer from reduced lung function

Some patients who have recovered from the coronavirus have been left with a reduced lung capacity – and left gasping for air when walking briskly, according to a report.

The Hong Kong Hospital Authority announced the findings after studying the first wave of patients who had fully recovered from COVID-19, the South China Morning Post reported.

Three people have died of the illness in the former British colony, which has so far recorded 131 confirmed cases. Among them, 74 people have been discharged.

Read more at:  https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-survivors-may-suffer-from-reduced-lung-function/

[TomSea]

ISIS tells its terrorists not to travel to Europe for jihad — because of coronavirus
By Laura Italiano  March 15, 2020

After years of urging its terrorists to attack major European cities, ISIS is now telling them to steer clear due to the coronavirus.

Any sick jihadists already in Europe, however, should stay there — presumably to sicken infidels, according to a ‘sharia’ directive printed in the group’s al-Naba newsletter, the Sunday Times of London reported.

The “healthy should not enter the land of the epidemic and the afflicted should not exit from it,” the newsletter advised.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/15/isis-tells-its-terrorists-not-to-travel-to-europe-for-jihad-because-coronavirus/

[Cyber Liberty]

ISIS tells its terrorists not to travel to Europe for jihad — because of coronavirus

OK, I don't care who you are, that there's funny.  Suicidal terrorists are afraid of COVID-19.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

OK, I don't care who you are, that there's funny.  Suicidal terrorists are afraid of COVID-19.

Agreed

[mystery-ak]

Kurt Zindulka 15 Mar 2020

Elderly Britons may be told to self-isolate for four months under the government’s “wartime-style” effort to combat the spread of the Wuhan coronavirus.

The government of the United Kingdom is expected to impose a swathe of new measures to fight the further spread of the virus and to prevent the National Health Service (NHS) from “falling over” during the peak of the epidemic.

Within the next 20 days, those over the age of 70 will be told to self-quarantine in their homes or care homes for up to four months, a Government source told ITV.

Boris Johnson’s government is concerned that the quarantine will lead to the death of elderly people from neglect, and will call on friends, neighbours, and relatives to help older people during their isolation.

Dominic Cummings, the chief advisor to the Prime Minister, has reportedly been reaching out to Deliveroo and Uber to help bring food to the elderly, as well.

“We are looking for a huge community effort,” the source said.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/15/uk-4-month-quarantine-for-elderly-people-in-coronavirus/

[Victoria33]

Thanx for your reply.  Your assessment is spot on.  I completely agree. 

Or I could read your comments to express anger that our government let us down by stalling, and minimizing the danger and that too would be a legitimately rational opinion.   Or perhaps you had no underlying point to express but just wished to commiserate with a friend in our shared time uncertainty.   I am happy to see your posts and know you are well @Victoria33 .

@Once-Ler

The person who questioned my post about the airlines, posted a link about United Airlines.  That is about United and flights to ASIA.

Since the person questioned what I said about pilots being laid-off, my source about that is a family member who IS A CAPTAIN FOR UNITED AIRLINES.    He is living this as it happens.

My original post to you was to provide more information about what is happening, plus speak to you as the intelligent person you are.  I will use PMs to you and some others from now on.  The word in-fighting here is ridiculous.
Thanks for your reply. 


United on Friday announced service reductions throughout Asia because of the illness, known as COVID-19, which has sickened more than 83,000 people. U.S. airlines had already suspended flights to mainland China and Hong Kong. The spread of the illness has raised concerns that weak demand and new travel restrictions will prompt airlines to further cut international flights.

Chicago-based United has more service to Asia than any other U.S. airline.
United is now offering some widebody pilots a month off in April at the pay rate for 50 hours a month, lower than the roughly 80 hours pilots normally work, wrote Todd Insler, a United captain and chairman of the United branch of the Air Line Pilots Association, in a note to union members.
“The reductions in block hours has resulted in lower line values and fewer flying opportunities in some fleets,” Insler said in the note. “We are preparing for the possibility of further reductions to our schedules as the virus spreads.”

[Cyber Liberty]

@Once-Ler

The person who questioned my post about the airlines, posted a link about United Airlines.  That is about United and flights to ASIA.

Since the person questioned what I said about pilots being laid-off, my source about that is a family member who IS A CAPTAIN FOR UNITED AIRLINES.    He is living this as it happens.

My original post to you was to provide more information about what is happening, plus speak to you as the intelligent person you are.  I will use PMs to you and some others from now on.  The word in-fighting here is ridiculous.
Thanks for your reply. 


United on Friday announced service reductions throughout Asia because of the illness, known as COVID-19, which has sickened more than 83,000 people. U.S. airlines had already suspended flights to mainland China and Hong Kong. The spread of the illness has raised concerns that weak demand and new travel restrictions will prompt airlines to further cut international flights.

Chicago-based United has more service to Asia than any other U.S. airline.
United is now offering some widebody pilots a month off in April at the pay rate for 50 hours a month, lower than the roughly 80 hours pilots normally work, wrote Todd Insler, a United captain and chairman of the United branch of the Air Line Pilots Association, in a note to union members.
“The reductions in block hours has resulted in lower line values and fewer flying opportunities in some fleets,” Insler said in the note. “We are preparing for the possibility of further reductions to our schedules as the virus spreads.”

I greatly appreciate your posts on this subject.  It's in your wheelhouse.  Kudos, @Victoria33!