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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2900 on: March 21, 2020, 02:03:57 pm »
Thank you for the correction, @Hoodat.  I accidentally said "deaths" instead of "cases" and went back to my post to correct it.

New York has five times more cases than the second worst state, Washington.

That was my only source for recoveries, so I accept your correction of the number of recoveries in Washington.

The point, however, remains the same.

New York is a hot mess with the number of cases they have there relative to everywhere else in the country.

The liberal "leadership" is to blame, IMO.  They did not take the closings seriously and were way behind the curve in slowing down the spread of this disease.

The absence of leadership is even more of a problem when so many people are together in a geographically small space.

DiBlasio and Cuomo should be ashamed of themselves.  I think they probably put politics over the safety of their people and did nothing because Trump and the Republicans in leadership were making decisions that were wise and showed concern for the health of US citizens.

Democrats have a long, sordid history of inactivity in the face of crises, and then blaming Republicans who actually did do things for everything that goes wrong.  Katrina is just one example, the Rats are manufacturing new ones.

It should be expected that population centers are the canaries in the coal mines for epidemics.  That they are led by DemocRats is but one reason, jamming people into close proximity in buildings and mass transit is another.  One could say, "The Rats are courting rats" (the real kind).
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2901 on: March 21, 2020, 02:03:57 pm »


That is not at all what that twitter feed says. 

STOP IT !  YOU DON'T KNOW JACK !  STOP POSTING LINKS WITHOUT VETTING THEM FIRST !  YOUR TRACK RECORD ON THIS THREAD SUCKS BIGTIME !
Mr. Mudslinger, Who cares what you say.

More ad homs, you don't like tweets, get all tweets removed from this forum, she's published in Epoch Times, has a good conservative name.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/author-jennifer-zeng

Your track record is to go after people and ignore great false hoods like Traffic Deaths and Jaywalkers having higher deaths per day,

Your track record was calling this website posted by others as "left wing".  That's your track record.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Debunk it instead of resorting to attacking all the time.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2902 on: March 21, 2020, 02:06:51 pm »
Democrats have a long, sordid history of inactivity in the face of crises, and then blaming Republicans who actually did do things for everything that goes wrong.  Katrina is just one example, the Rats are manufacturing new ones.

It should be expected that population centers are the canaries in the coal mines for epidemics.  That they are led by DemocRats is but one reason, jamming people into close proximity in buildings and mass transit is another.  One could say, "The Rats are courting rats" (the real kind).

SO true!

btw, Trump is doing well in the presser, defending his actions in saving lives.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2903 on: March 21, 2020, 02:08:02 pm »


That is not at all what that twitter feed says. 

STOP IT !  YOU DON'T KNOW JACK !  STOP POSTING LINKS WITHOUT VETTING THEM FIRST !  YOUR TRACK RECORD ON THIS THREAD SUCKS BIGTIME !
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2904 on: March 21, 2020, 02:08:17 pm »
COVID-19 will eventually be an accelerator pushing the world more quickly into the future.
Every global calamity, every war, in every case led to hundreds of new inventions, innovations, and medical procedures.
This will be the same, although it may take years and many deaths before it all comes to fruition.
Adversity leads to progress. And we will likely lose our dependance on China for just about everything.
All the China cheerleaders in D.C. can no longer deny that they have put us in a very dangerous situation.
Once we get through this, we will be stronger and better off for it.

GREAT post!!
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2905 on: March 21, 2020, 02:08:56 pm »
Settle down and stop engaging in personal attacks. Stay on topic, please.

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« Reply #2906 on: March 21, 2020, 02:16:42 pm »
Settle down and stop engaging in personal attacks. Stay on topic, please.

Galadriel has balls?

Sure wasn't those lightly maroon leggings.

Must have been in that cheesy smile.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2907 on: March 21, 2020, 02:23:11 pm »
Mr. Mudslinger, Who cares what you say.

More ad homs, you don't like tweets, get all tweets removed from this forum, she's published in Epoch Times, has a good conservative name.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/author-jennifer-zeng

Your track record is to go after people and ignore great false hoods like Traffic Deaths and Jaywalkers having higher deaths per day,

Your track record was calling this website posted by others as "left wing".  That's your track record.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Debunk it instead of resorting to attacking all the time.

FWIW, here is the link to her tweet and a link to the article. Look like a Chineese on-line news source so can't vouch for accuracy and is in Chineese but you can use a translator.


https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1240780076385517571

https://news.sina.com.cn/o/2020-03-19/doc-iimxxsth0305852.shtml

Here is another link - UPI

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/18/South-Korea-teen-dies-after-testing-negative-for-COVID-19/7711584456914/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2908 on: March 21, 2020, 02:25:20 pm »
Deeeaath comes sweeping through the hallways

In the winds of change

We must keep them away

Or count the cost in sorrow
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2909 on: March 21, 2020, 02:27:20 pm »
Galadriel has balls?

Sure wasn't those lightly maroon leggings.

Must have been in that cheesy smile.

No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2910 on: March 21, 2020, 02:31:08 pm »
Settle down and stop engaging in personal attacks. Stay on topic, please.

I thought it over.

If these people are attacking each other it confirms at least two and maybe three of the Fermi Paradoxes.

If they are going after the [redacted].
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2911 on: March 21, 2020, 02:37:15 pm »


That is such bullshit. My son's german shepherd is a supercarrier. He took her to the park. That bitch in heat infected EVERYTHING within 2000 people in 5.2 seconds.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2913 on: March 21, 2020, 02:43:50 pm »
Thank you, @Bigun

I briefly looked at the information -- the chart indicated in flattening the curve looks exactly like the chart that the Trump team is using; Dr. Fauci.  So there is no hysteria in that information; that is what they are working towards.  As of today, we are in day 6 of trying to contain this -- we had/have a 15 day window.  Not so sure why anyone would think that trying to contain this virus equals hysteria.  It doesn't. The report here that children aren't symptomatic is now being proven false. There are reports of children preschool age and younger are more at risk.

There is a drastic difference of being concerned and taking preventive measures to contain this virus which is being implemented by Trump and his team, and implementing panic and misinformation which the media has done. 

People are concerned and rightfully so.  The government is taking action to try and prevent another Italy from happening and rightfully so.

Those who are complacent and ignoring what is going on are doing just as much of a disservice to those trying to invoke panic and sensationalize.


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« Reply #2914 on: March 21, 2020, 02:47:10 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2915 on: March 21, 2020, 02:47:26 pm »
SO true!

btw, Trump is doing well in the presser, defending his actions in saving lives.

SAVING LIVES!

Yes ... the press is trying to invalidate his efforts and the efforts of his team of experts and he shuts them down every time.  I still think he ought to give televised daily briefings without questions from the press.  They are of little use.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2916 on: March 21, 2020, 02:48:40 pm »


This is indeed a corona virus, but it is not SARS, it is new. 

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2917 on: March 21, 2020, 02:50:00 pm »
This is indeed a corona virus, but it is not SARS, it is new.
It is a slightly mutated variant of the SARS virus.
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With no antibodies built up in the population, no known cure, and no existing vaccine against COVID-19, some may fear that there's no hope for those suffering with the disease now or in the future. However, there have actually been green shoots of positive results from several existing anti-viral and anti-inflammatory drugs already on the market, albeit on an anecdotal basis.

While no official U.S. trials have been completed and data is scarce, anecdotal successes with these drugs are giving people hope, and the government is now loosening red tape to get them where needed as fast as possible. Here are all the treatments that have been effective against COVID-19 in certain cases, and the companies that make them.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2919 on: March 21, 2020, 03:03:31 pm »
It is a slightly mutated variant of the SARS virus.

Yep. The virus's actual name is SARS-CoV-2. COVID-19 was to avoid the word SARS in the media as I understand it.

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These drugs could be key to staving off COVID-19 until a vaccine is developed.

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With no antibodies built up in the population, no known cure, and no existing vaccine against COVID-19, some may fear that there's no hope for those suffering with the disease now or in the future. However, there have actually been green shoots of positive results from several existing anti-viral and anti-inflammatory drugs already on the market, albeit on an anecdotal basis.

While no official U.S. trials have been completed and data is scarce, anecdotal successes with these drugs are giving people hope, and the government is now loosening red tape to get them where needed as fast as possible. Here are all the treatments that have been effective against COVID-19 in certain cases, and the companies that make them.

more
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/03/21/all-the-drugs-proving-anecdotally-effective-agains.aspx

These are hopeful, but those for compassionate care use -- are those being used when death's door is knocking and there is no other options?

So .... I am in no way a pharmacist or chemist  -- but why not try a combination drug of those listed??  Some help to prevent replication, some help to prevent the body's immune system from attacking itself.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2921 on: March 21, 2020, 03:05:12 pm »
This is indeed a corona virus, but it is not SARS, it is new.

As stated above this virus is actually called SARS-CoV-2. It is a variant of SARS.
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« Reply #2922 on: March 21, 2020, 03:06:15 pm »
It is a slightly mutated variant of the SARS virus.

IT IS SARS-CoV-2

COrona VIrus Disease-19

IT is HERE. It will always be HERE. Lassa fever has already killed a like amount of people this year. Ebola hasn't ever gone away. It is still killing in Black Africa. Nobody gves a shit. How many opoids deaths happened THIS week. Only one of the few junkies I cared about.
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« Reply #2923 on: March 21, 2020, 03:07:17 pm »
I am going to shut up and go away.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2924 on: March 21, 2020, 03:07:51 pm »
"Why won’t the WHO call the coronavirus by its name, SARS-CoV-2?"

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2925 on: March 21, 2020, 03:09:28 pm »
IT IS SARS-CoV-2

COrona VIrus Disease-19

IT is HERE. It will always be HERE. Lassa fever has already killed a like amount of people this year. Ebola hasn't ever gone away. It is still killing in Black Africa. Nobody gves a shit. How many opoids deaths happened THIS week. Only one of the few junkies I cared about.

So it was Opioids, Fred?  I'm sorry....  8888crybaby
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« Reply #2926 on: March 21, 2020, 03:09:32 pm »
I am going to shut up and go away.

Don't do that, friend.  I'll miss you. 

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2927 on: March 21, 2020, 03:10:02 pm »
I am going to shut up and go away.

I'll keep a chair for you.
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« Reply #2928 on: March 21, 2020, 03:13:36 pm »
And all of you anti vaxxers better not even try and get on this bus. I don't care how many dead bodies you throw under it.
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« Reply #2929 on: March 21, 2020, 03:14:12 pm »
It is a slightly mutated variant of the SARS virus.

Yes, they are similar, but not the same.

https://loinc.org/sars-coronavirus-2/

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« Reply #2930 on: March 21, 2020, 03:16:10 pm »
IT IS SARS-CoV-2

COrona VIrus Disease-19

IT is HERE. It will always be HERE. Lassa fever has already killed a like amount of people this year. Ebola hasn't ever gone away. It is still killing in Black Africa. Nobody gves a shit. How many opoids deaths happened THIS week. Only one of the few junkies I cared about.

Sorry for your loss.

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« Reply #2931 on: March 21, 2020, 03:17:04 pm »
Yes, they are similar, but not the same.

https://loinc.org/sars-coronavirus-2/

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2932 on: March 21, 2020, 03:22:58 pm »
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Kenny Rogers is dead. Fold them.

He knew when....
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« Reply #2933 on: March 21, 2020, 03:27:09 pm »
Nobody gves a shit. How many opoids deaths happened THIS week. Only one of the few junkies I cared about.

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« Reply #2934 on: March 21, 2020, 03:33:32 pm »
He knew when....

Looks like I missed the brawl again.   Oh well..... 888mouth

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« Reply #2935 on: March 21, 2020, 03:42:24 pm »
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« Reply #2936 on: March 21, 2020, 03:43:44 pm »
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Kenny Rogers is dead. Fold them.

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« Reply #2937 on: March 21, 2020, 03:52:15 pm »
I briefly looked at the information -- the chart indicated in flattening the curve looks exactly like the chart that the Trump team is using; Dr. Fauci.  So there is no hysteria in that information; that is what they are working towards.  As of today, we are in day 6 of trying to contain this -- we had/have a 15 day window.  Not so sure why anyone would think that trying to contain this virus equals hysteria.  It doesn't. The report here that children aren't symptomatic is now being proven false. There are reports of children preschool age and younger are more at risk.

There is a drastic difference of being concerned and taking preventive measures to contain this virus which is being implemented by Trump and his team, and implementing panic and misinformation which the media has done. 

People are concerned and rightfully so.  The government is taking action to try and prevent another Italy from happening and rightfully so.

Those who are complacent and ignoring what is going on are doing just as much of a disservice to those trying to invoke panic and sensationalize.

Thank you for that, @libertybele
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2938 on: March 21, 2020, 03:58:26 pm »
I am going to shut up and go away.

I need to shut up and go to work...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2939 on: March 21, 2020, 04:00:13 pm »
Another brief Ohio update (Gov. DeWine's daily briefings are excellent, if anyone wants a calm, rational, but realistic assessment of what's going on here):

There are 247 confirmed cases in Ohio, but Dr. Acton explained that what we have is a 'snapshot of the past' and not an actuality of how many are present.  (There are far more cases than the snapshot indicates).

Ohio has a sister city in Wuhan Province so was early in contagion.  But it has been slow to get the reagents necessary for testing. (Ohio hospitals are working to create their own testing, but there is a shortage of swabs).

So, they are only using the tests for the most severe symptoms.

Dr. Acton said that 80% of those who get the virus will recover at home, and that the treatment is the same regardless of whether or not the test has been given.

She urged being in contact with your healthcare provider, STAYING AT HOME, and making sure that if your symptoms increase you let them know.

If everyone is serious, and smart, we can minimize the severity of this epidemic.

Be serious.  Be smart.  Stay home.  Stay safe.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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These are hopeful, but those for compassionate care use -- are those being used when death's door is knocking and there is no other options?
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That was the situation with the woman in UC Davis Medical Center whose life apparently was saved by Remdesivir. BTW, US MSM still have zero coverage of this story.


I am not and never have been a leftist.

If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2941 on: March 21, 2020, 04:06:33 pm »
Another brief Ohio update (Gov. DeWine's daily briefings are excellent, if anyone wants a calm, rational, but realistic assessment of what's going on here):

There are 247 confirmed cases in Ohio, but Dr. Acton explained that what we have is a 'snapshot of the past' and not an actuality of how many are present.  (There are far more cases than the snapshot indicates).

Ohio has a sister city in Wuhan Province so was early in contagion.  But it has been slow to get the reagents necessary for testing. (Ohio hospitals are working to create their own testing, but there is a shortage of swabs).

So, they are only using the tests for the most severe symptoms.

Dr. Acton said that 80% of those who get the virus will recover at home, and that the treatment is the same regardless of whether or not the test has been given.

She urged being in contact with your healthcare provider, STAYING AT HOME, and making sure that if your symptoms increase you let them know.

If everyone is serious, and smart, we can minimize the severity of this epidemic.

Be serious.  Be smart.  Stay home.  Stay safe.

That's the size of it.  "Don't Panic" and the rest will sort out.  The panicking being promoted by the left side of the political spectrum is causing far mor damage to the economy than the virus itself.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2942 on: March 21, 2020, 04:07:19 pm »
Sorry for your loss.

IT is something else.
Do you have kids?
Grandkids?

IF you do then do not attack any other member in any way on this thread.

None of you.

Because whatever this is isn't worse than what we already have.

We can't fix what has been broken for years. Fix the problem before the problem arrives.

It is meaningless bullshit. There are over two dozen"x' "Gen" "Millenial"s who have acess to my house. All races. All income groups.

You know why they come here? Sex, drugs and rock and roll.

If you ever offer harm to any one of these kids who ever come here I WILL KILL you. Our house is a designated safe zone by the local PD. We never lock our doors. There are a couple of restrictions. My bedroom is off limits.

We aren't rich. We are trailer house trash. uh huh. The ones that have that see what we try to do. Maybe they be come human one day.

Does anyone want any green jello cups? When they closed the schools early on Monday, sorta two days short of spring break we got a delivery of some green jello lunch cups. Been trying to eat them. My wife. My kids.Everyody's kids, the dogs... Nevermind. It was between 80-100, I think we are down to a dozen.







yo
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2943 on: March 21, 2020, 04:09:52 pm »
@Bigun
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This is indeed a corona virus, but it is not SARS, it is new.

It is a slightly mutated variant of the SARS virus.

There are many strains of coronaviruses just as there are many strains of influenza.

Some coronaviruses have been known to be circulating in humans since first identified as a distinct family of viruses in the 1960’s. Some of these coronaviruses are responsible for common colds along with rhinoviruses and other viruses – causing uncomfortable but not serious illness in most cases. There is even a coronavirus that only infects cats, IIRC.

Coronaviruses are also very prevalent in bats just as influenza viruses are prevalent in birds and in pigs or in pigs as an intermediary host before jumping to humans. It is when a disease first makes this zoonotic jump into humans and there is human to human transmission that makes it “novel”, meaning new and for which there is typically no prior human exposure or immunity. (With the H1N1 “Spanish” flu one of the reasons thought why it didn’t seem to impact older people was likely a similar strain of H1N1 influenza circulated in the 1870’s – that’s not to say however, that all older people were immune or that older people didn’t die).

When SARS first broke out in 2003 it was immediately apparent that while a coronavirus, this wasn’t a common cold or analogous to a flu as it had a near 10% fatality rate, but thankfully wasn’t highly contagious and was quickly contained. Scientific research showed that SARS (2003) originated in bats, jumped to civet cats and then to humans.

Similarly, MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) with its 35% mortality rate is believed to have jumped from bats to camels and then to humans.

SARS stands for Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome but that doesn’t mean SARS-CoV-2 (or COVID-19) is a “mutation” of the 2003 SARS.  COVID-19 is believed to have originated in bats and jumped to pangolins before jumping to humans although that has not been definitely determined.

SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) simply means it is the 2nd coronavirus transmittable human to human that causes severe respiratory issues in humans, not that it is a mutation of SARS-CoV-1.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2944 on: March 21, 2020, 04:10:27 pm »
IT is something else.
Do you have kids?
Grandkids?

IF you do the do not attack any other member in any way on this thread.

None of you.

Because whatever this is isn't worse than what we already have.

We can't fix what has been broken for years. Fix the problem before the problem arrives.

It is meaningless bullshit. There are over two dozen"x' "Gen" "Millenial"s who have acess to my house. All races. All income groups.

You know why they come here? Sex, drugs and rock and roll.

If you ever offer harm to any one of these kids who ever come here I WILL KILL you. Our house is a designated safe zone by the local PD. We never lock our doors. There are a couple of restrictions. My bedroom is off limits.

We aren't rich. We are trailer house trash. uh huh. The ones that have that see what we try to do. Maybe they be come humn one day.

Does anyone want any green jello cups? When they closed the schools early on Monday, sorta two days short of spring break we got a delivery of some green jello lunch cups. Been trying to eat them. My wife. My kids.Everyody's kids, the dogs... Nevermind. It was between 80-100, I think we are down to a dozen.







yo

The food banks here are overflowing with really good stuff the Casino Resorts all had in inventory when they got shut down by the Governor of Nevada last week.  There is more than green jello in there.

Take a rest, Fred.  You've earned it!  We'll watch the store for you.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2945 on: March 21, 2020, 04:13:42 pm »
The food banks here are overflowing with really good stuff the Casino Resorts all had in inventory when they got shut down by the Governor of Nevada last week.  There is more than green jello in there.

Take a rest, Fred.  You've earned it!  We'll watch the store for you.

My kids brought jello cups home from college, too. I had no idea the kids enjoyed them so much and they've grown on me, as well.

Get a bit dizzy when I eat too many though.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2946 on: March 21, 2020, 04:16:26 pm »
@Bigun
@libertybele
@jmyrlefuller

There are many strains of coronaviruses just as there are many strains of influenza.

Some coronaviruses have been known to be circulating in humans since first identified as a distinct family of viruses in the 1960’s. Some of these coronaviruses are responsible for common colds along with rhinoviruses and other viruses – causing uncomfortable but not serious illness in most cases. There is even a coronavirus that only infects cats, IIRC.

Coronaviruses are also very prevalent in bats just as influenza viruses are prevalent in birds and in pigs or in pigs as an intermediary host before jumping to humans. It is when a disease first makes this zoonotic jump into humans and there is human to human transmission that makes it “novel”, meaning new and for which there is typically no prior human exposure or immunity. (With the H1N1 “Spanish” flu one of the reasons thought why it didn’t seem to impact older people was likely a similar strain of H1N1 influenza circulated in the 1870’s – that’s not to say however, that all older people were immune or that older people didn’t die).

When SARS first broke out in 2003 it was immediately apparent that while a coronavirus, this wasn’t a common cold or analogous to a flu as it had a near 10% fatality rate, but thankfully wasn’t highly contagious and was quickly contained. Scientific research showed that SARS (2003) originated in bats, jumped to civet cats and then to humans.

Similarly, MERS (Middle East Respiratory Syndrome) with its 35% mortality rate is believed to have jumped from bats to camels and then to humans.

SARS stands for Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome but that doesn’t mean SARS-CoV-2 (or COVID-19) is a “mutation” of the 2003 SARS.  COVID-19 is believed to have originated in bats and jumped to pangolins before jumping to humans although that has not been definitely determined.

SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) simply means it is the 2nd coronavirus transmittable human to human that causes severe respiratory issues in humans, not that it is a mutation of SARS-CoV-1.

Thank you for the clarification.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2947 on: March 21, 2020, 04:16:33 pm »
IT is something else.
Do you have kids?
Grandkids?

IF you do then do not attack any other member in any way on this thread.

None of you.

Because whatever this is isn't worse than what we already have.

We can't fix what has been broken for years. Fix the problem before the problem arrives.

It is meaningless bullshit. There are over two dozen"x' "Gen" "Millenial"s who have acess to my house. All races. All income groups.

You know why they come here? Sex, drugs and rock and roll.

If you ever offer harm to any one of these kids who ever come here I WILL KILL you. Our house is a designated safe zone by the local PD. We never lock our doors. There are a couple of restrictions. My bedroom is off limits.

We aren't rich. We are trailer house trash. uh huh. The ones that have that see what we try to do. Maybe they be come human one day.

Does anyone want any green jello cups? When they closed the schools early on Monday, sorta two days short of spring break we got a delivery of some green jello lunch cups. Been trying to eat them. My wife. My kids.Everyody's kids, the dogs... Nevermind. It was between 80-100, I think we are down to a dozen.







yo

Wasn't trying to attack or imply anything and I was very, very sincere in my response to you about your comment about losing someone you cared about to opioid addiction...it hits close to home.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2948 on: March 21, 2020, 04:21:52 pm »
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"Sorry for your loss." @VP  Pence says to @KellyO as he departs White House press briefing room, referring to NBC technician Larry Edgeworth, who died this week of #Covid_19.

very classy

Far better than Trump arguing with that NBC reporter.  What the H was that about?

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #2949 on: March 21, 2020, 04:29:31 pm »
Far better than Trump arguing with that NBC reporter.  What the H was that about?

If you're referring to yesterday, you might want to rewatch the presser.  If it is who I think you are talking about, my take is that he was obviously attacking Trump and team and trying to discredit efforts and mentioned panic to those watching.  Trump shut him down -- a question was asked of Pompeo and Pompeo told him he wasn't going to answer. 

I've watched all the press conferences this week and every day some of the supposed journalists in my opinion are doing more harm than they are good.  They aren't asking questions to report they are asking questions to try and discredit the efforts going on, some questions are accusatory as if Trump and team are lying.