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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1150 on: September 10, 2020, 10:53:32 am »
I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1151 on: September 10, 2020, 12:20:12 pm »
Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1152 on: September 10, 2020, 01:39:22 pm »
What? Your PF Flyers didn't help you 'run faster and jump higher'?
No. In fact, I didn't even wear PF Flyers. Or U.S. Keds. I remember a commercial from those days showing some kid putting on a pair of U.S. Keds and whizzing around the block at supersonic speed. I wanted to be able to do that too.
My mother got me the cheapest sneakers available. I don't know how much PF Flyers or Keds cost, but it must have been out of our price range.
Strangely enough, there were kids who wore the same cheap sneakers as I did but could run faster than me. I couldn't figure that out at the time.
I had about average or a little above average speed. But my three brothers were all very fast and could run rings around me. Even while wearing the same cheap sneakers as I did.

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1153 on: September 10, 2020, 01:49:59 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #1154 on: September 10, 2020, 02:00:17 pm »
Yeah, but CHucks were expensive, maybe $12-14 when you could get a cheap pair of sneakers for $2.50

I'm thinking these were about $10.00

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1155 on: September 10, 2020, 03:07:30 pm »
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« Reply #1156 on: September 10, 2020, 03:14:37 pm »
No. In fact, I didn't even wear PF Flyers. Or U.S. Keds. I remember a commercial from those days showing some kid putting on a pair of U.S. Keds and whizzing around the block at supersonic speed. I wanted to be able to do that too.
I used to wear Keds boat sneakers, as they called them in those years. The most comfortable sneakers I ever had when I was growing up. Especially living as I did in a beach town from third grade through high school graduation. Perfect for walking to the beach (I lived ten blocks from it) or on the boardwalk.


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« Reply #1157 on: September 10, 2020, 03:22:36 pm »
I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
She was in many enjoyable movies and plays but who could forget her wonderful work with Vincent Price in Theater of Blood?
I thought she always presented herself as a classy lady and think it would have been great to just sit and talk with her. Anyone that can say things like this quote from her has no delusions about who they are.

A smoker from the age of 18, Rigg was still smoking 20 cigarettes a day in 2009. By December 2017, she had stopped smoking after serious illness led to heart surgery, a cardiac ablation, two months earlier. A devout Christian, she commented that: "My heart had stopped ticking during the procedure, so I was up there and The Good Lord must have said, 'Send the old bag down again, I'm not having her yet!'".

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1158 on: September 10, 2020, 03:31:06 pm »
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/09/kool-the-gang-co-founder-ronald-khalis-bell-dies-at-68.html

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LOS ANGELES — Ronald “Khalis” Bell, a co-founder, singer and producer of the group Kool & the Gang, has died. He was 68.

Bell, who was born in Ohio but grew up in Jersey City, died at his home in the U.S. Virgin Islands Wednesday morning with his wife by his side, publicist Sujata Murthy said. The cause of death has not been released.

Kool & the Gang grew from jazz roots in the 1960s to become one of the major groups of the 1970s, blending jazz, funk, R&B and pop. After a brief downturn, the group enjoyed a return to stardom in the ’80s.
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1159 on: September 10, 2020, 04:34:09 pm »
I also forgot she was in a James Bond film! On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

It’s quite an honor to be a Bond girl, huh?
A particular honor given that her character, Tracy, was the only Bond girl that James Bond ever married. She ended up assassinated by a Blofeld henchman at the end, but still...
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1160 on: September 10, 2020, 09:18:48 pm »
I never saw Game of Thrones, but I did catch an episode or two of The Avengers.

RIP, Dame Diana.

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1161 on: September 10, 2020, 10:44:42 pm »
Dame Diana Rigg: Actress dies aged 82

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54106509

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« Reply #1162 on: September 11, 2020, 02:24:25 am »
Had  huge 10 year old crushes on Diana Rigg and Elizabeth Montgomery.
...and Barbara Eden...
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1163 on: September 11, 2020, 06:40:37 am »
...and Barbara Eden...

Even my dad liked Jeannie! Totally off topic but back then they could show her or Mary Ann’s belly buttons. Look how far TV has come....(not to mention couples were in separate beds)
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« Reply #1164 on: September 11, 2020, 09:10:15 am »
Even my dad liked Jeannie! Totally off topic but back then they could show her or Mary Ann’s belly buttons. Look how far TV has come....(not to mention couples were in separate beds)
The separate bed thing goes back many decades back to the thirties when Hollywood enacted their stupid morality codes.
Every kid could look into their parent's bedrooms and only see one big bed. So why did Hollyweird and the tv industry think that showing married couples using twin beds was a great idea?
Maybe pressure from religious groups which were far more powerful in those days had a lot to do with it.
Catholics had the Legion of Decency which rated films from A which were "wholesome" family films to C for condemned. The things that could get a movie condemned would make people fall down laughing today. I think one movie got condemned for using the word "pregnant."
Needless to say, I never saw any condemned movies in my youth, and my old man threw a fit when I went with a friend to see "From Russia With Love" which was rated B for morally objectionable. Boy, those Bond girls...hubba, hubba.

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1165 on: September 11, 2020, 09:23:58 am »
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The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show.  In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable.  So the character was  portrayed as having broken off her engagement. 

I do remember the Legion of Decency codes and I also remember my devout Catholic mother throwing a hissy fit when I went to the movies as a kid to see a few that were less than A rated.  At the time there were two movie houses in the neighborhood.  I'd tell my mother I was going to the one that was showing an A rated movie, but actually, I went to the one showing a B or C rated movie.  The theaters didn't really care that I might be too young for what they were showing; so long as I forked over the 50 cents to see the picture, they'd still let me in.

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« Reply #1166 on: September 11, 2020, 09:33:13 am »
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The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show.  In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable.  So the character was  portrayed as having broken off her engagement. 
It wasn't just the "Divorce" thing. They didn't want anyone thinking she had divorced Dick Van Dyke.
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« Reply #1167 on: September 11, 2020, 12:27:54 pm »
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The "twin beds" thing made me think of the Dick Van Dyke Show and later, the Mary Tyler Moore Show.  In the latter, Mary was originally supposed to be a divorcee, but I guess someone at the network thought that was morally objectionable.  So the character was  portrayed as having broken off her engagement. 

I do remember the Legion of Decency codes and I also remember my devout Catholic mother throwing a hissy fit when I went to the movies as a kid to see a few that were less than A rated.  At the time there were two movie houses in the neighborhood.  I'd tell my mother I was going to the one that was showing an A rated movie, but actually, I went to the one showing a B or C rated movie.  The theaters didn't really care that I might be too young for what they were showing; so long as I forked over the 50 cents to see the picture, they'd still let me in.
I can't remember my two movie houses that existed where I was growing up ever showed anything that would have been condemnation-worthy.
I didn't have the money to see them anyway until I started doing part-time work in my mid-teens. After the mid-sixties all sorts of things started showing up on movie screens.
We had an outdoor movie theater (yippee!!) close to my house that showed r-rated movies. Couldn't hear the audio, but the pictures on the screen sure were interesting. It's a wonder they didn't close them down for "immorality" before they went out of business thanks to vcrs and video-tapes.
Now they're coming back because of the virus. Weird times.

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« Reply #1168 on: September 11, 2020, 03:21:28 pm »
...and Barbara Eden...
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« Reply #1169 on: September 12, 2020, 08:28:18 pm »
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Midget wrestler also known as Puppet the Psycho Dwarf dies at 54

Richardson had two particular traits that may have doomed him to an early death: he had dwarfism, and he chose professional wrestling as a vocation. Wrestling as "Puppet the Psycho Dwarf," Richarsdon was a founding member of the Half Pint Brawlers, a particularly brutal hardcore midget wrestling circuit that had its own program on Spike TV. Before founding that organization, he briefly wrestled for TNA before that circuit broke through to its moment of prominence.

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« Reply #1170 on: September 15, 2020, 06:15:19 pm »
Pioneering Navy Captain Kathleen Byerly Bruyere dies at 74



Byerly, a career enlistee of the United States Navy, served from 1966 to 1994, eventually rising to the rank of Captain. Her extensive service was perhaps overshadowed by a single lawsuit in which she argued, successfully, that a federal law prohibiting women from combat aircraft or ships to be used in war violated the U.S. Constitution. It was this case that earned her Person of the Year honors, alongside several other feminists, from Time magazine in 1975 (though the magazine never informed her of her selection). Though she won the lawsuit, she never served on a warship afterward.

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« Reply #1171 on: September 15, 2020, 08:32:56 pm »
Three full stripes, Lt. Commander?
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« Reply #1172 on: September 15, 2020, 09:53:24 pm »
Three full stripes, Lt. Commander?
I think her rank was Commander at the time that picture was taken (1983 according to Wikipedia), before she was promoted to captain.
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1173 on: September 17, 2020, 11:58:03 am »
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74

Stanley Crouch, Towering Jazz Critic, Dead At 74

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Stanley Crouch, the lauded and fiery jazz critic, has died. According to an announcement by his wife, Gloria Nixon-Crouch, Stanley Crouch died at the Calvary Hospital in New York on Wednesday, following nearly a decade of serious health issues.

Crouch was born in Los Angeles on Dec. 14, 1945. He read voraciously, watched the Watts riots up close, took up jazz drums, published Black Nationalist poetry, led guerilla-theater troupes and taught literature at Pomona College, all before moving to New York in 1975 and becoming a cultural critic at the Village Voice. His first collection, Notes of a Hanging Judge: Essays and Reviews, 1979-1989, is a classic of American letters, with disquisitions on diverse topics like Jesse Jackson, filmmaker Ousmane Sembene and painter Bob Thompson, before wrapping up with a panoramic diary of the Umbria Jazz Festival in Italy. The volume got wide play, was a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for criticism, and established Crouch as a force to be reckoned with. Later books included a novel, Don't the Moon Look Lonesome?, which received a close read from John Updike in the New Yorker, and a well-received biography, Kansas City Lightning: The Rise and Times of Charlie Parker. His many honors included a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant and a NEA Jazz Masters Fellowship.

After publicly renouncing Black Nationalism in 1979, Crouch strove to place himself in the tradition of Ralph Ellison and, especially, Albert Murray, thinkers through which the idea of embracing Blackness and embracing American-ness became one and the same. Crouch felt he was extending Ellison's and Murray's work when attacking important artists, such as Spike Lee and Toni Morrison, for "doing the race thing." At the same time, Crouch fought for what he considered a Black aesthetic in jazz, and his 2003 JazzTimes essay "Putting the White Man in Charge" pairs neatly with Amiri Baraka's famous 1960 polemic, "Jazz and the White Critic." His outsized opinions were rendered in scalding, pugilistic prose – he even acquired a reputation for being willing to literally fight someone for disagreeing with him.
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1174 on: September 17, 2020, 01:25:04 pm »
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/913619163/stanley-crouch-towering-jazz-critic-dead-at-74

Stanley Crouch, Towering Jazz Critic, Dead At 74

I have two anthologies of his criticism . . .



. . . and he also wrote one of the best analyses I ever read about the dilemna of John Coltrane:

From Coltrane Derailed, Jazz Times, 1 Sept. 2002:

. . . [T]here are persistent questions buried deep in the John Coltrane mythos, ones that are hidden in the background of the discussion of his music because few professionals want to say publicly what they really think of him and the albums he made in the summer and fall of 1965 with augmented personnel—Kulu Se Mama, Ascension, Sun Ship, Om and Meditations—and the post-Classic Quartet LPs he made up until the end.

Before McCoy Tyner left the band in late 1965—unable to deal with the many squeakers, howlers, shriekers and honkers his boss invited onto the bandstand—he asked Coltrane what he was doing. But the pianist could get no answer in musical terms, something that had not happened before . . . there are also rumors about hallucinogenic drugs, which intensify narcissism and spiritual fantasies . . .

What could have led one of the intellectual giants of jazz—one of the great bluesmen, one of the most original swingers and a master of the ballad—into an arena so emotionally narrow and so far removed from his roots and his accomplishments? While
Interstellar Space, the 1967 duets sessions with Ali, are models of their kind, and Coltrane’s melody statements are often majestic, the other post-mid-1965 recordings, whether studio or live, are largely one-dimensional and do not vaguely compare to what Coltrane accomplished with his Classic Quartet.

What Coltrane’s late music does prove, however, is that he might well have been caught up in the “hysteria of the times,” as Cecil Taylor once wrote of him. During that period of the ’60s, everything traditional was under fire, from politics to ethnic identity, for both rational and irrational reasons. It is not impossible to believe that Coltrane was attracted to the romantic fantasies about Africa that black nationalists attempted to impose on both Negroes at large and Negro artists. This was when Negroes sought what should now be recognized as a laughable version of “authenticity” that never assessed jazz itself with any actual depth.

In fact, much black nationalism was really about enormous self-hatred and contempt for Negro-American culture. Its vision misled certain black people into denying the depth of the indelibly rich domestic influences black and white people had had on each other, regardless of all that had been wrought by slavery and segregation. The greatest of John Coltrane’s music reflects that confluence of races and influences.

. . . Coltrane was as much an heir to all that Bach and his descendants gave the world as he was to the blues. He was an heir to all that Negroes had done with the saxophone and what he admired in Stan Getz. None of Coltrane’s music, early or late, ever sounded like African music because his bands didn’t play on one and three, which Africans do, and because—until the end—they swung, which Africans do not—nor does anybody else unaffected by that distinctly Negro-American contribution to phrasing. (For those who persist in calling jazz African music I ask but one question: Where in Africa is there anything that resembles Art Tatum or Coleman Hawkins?)

Coltrane may have been on the way back from the abyss, however, before he died in 1967 at age 40. Rashied Ali remembers playing with Coltrane and Jimmy Garrison in a “straight-ahead” trio session recorded in Japan, interpreting standard songs. Near the end, Coltrane was calling McCoy Tyner and talking of how much he missed the old band. He even said to one saxophonist close to him that he was about to try and put the Classic Quartet back together. Perhaps Coltrane wanted to feel again all that he had turned his back on.

RIP Mr. Crouch. You never failed to instruct, delight, and engage.



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« Reply #1175 on: September 17, 2020, 06:04:26 pm »
Some snippets from Crouch:

STANLEY CROUCH TOLD IT LIKE IT IS

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php

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Stanley Crouch died yesterday at the age of 74. Crouch is best known as a great jazz critic. His biography of Charlie Parker is a classic.

But Crouch was also a literary critic and a critic of our culture. Here are some gems from his criticism:

On rap: It is “either infantile self-celebration or anarchic glamorization of criminal behavior.”
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On Spike Lee: He’s “a middle-class would-be street Negro,” whose films reflected “fantasy” versions of Black communities and “the fundamental shallowness that you get from a propagandist.”
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On the civil rights movement: It aspired to a “complex vision of universal humanism” and cultural understanding before it was “hijacked by radicals.”

On Louis Farrakhan: He’s “our most highly respected racist and all-purpose lunatic.”
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1176 on: September 17, 2020, 06:19:19 pm »
Some snippets from Crouch:

STANLEY CROUCH TOLD IT LIKE IT IS

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/stanley-crouch-told-it-like-it-is.php

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He clearly didn't have any wool pulled over his eyes,and didn't give a damn about being "black politically correct".
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« Reply #1177 on: September 18, 2020, 07:57:42 pm »
Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.
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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a Liberal Voice on Supreme Court, Dies at 87
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Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a pioneering figure in the fight for women’s legal equality and the second woman to serve on the Supreme Court, died on Friday at the age of 87.

As the most senior member of the high court’s liberal bloc, the 1993 Clinton appointee spent her last years on the bench pushing back against an emboldened conservative majority, sometimes winning surprise victories or mitigating expected defeats by peeling off a vote from Chief Justice John Roberts or former Justice Anthony Kennedy. ...
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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1178 on: September 18, 2020, 07:59:11 pm »
(CNN)Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died on Friday due to complications of metastatic pancreas cancer, the court announced. She was 87.

Ginsburg was appointed in 1993 by President Bill Clinton and in recent years served as the most senior member of the court's liberal wing consistently delivering progressive votes on the most divisive social issues of the day, including abortion rights, same-sex marriage, voting rights, immigration, health care and affirmative action.

Along the way, she developed a rock star type status and was dubbed the "Notorious R.B.G." In speaking events across the country before liberal audiences, she was greeted with standing ovations as she spoke about her view of the law, her famed exercise routine and her often fiery dissents.

"Our Nation has lost a jurist of historic stature," said Chief Justice John Roberts. "We at the Supreme Court have lost a cherished colleague. Today we mourn, but with confidence that future generations will remember Ruth Bader Ginsburg as we knew her -- a tireless and resolute champion of justice."

Ginsburg died surrounded by her family at her home in Washington, D.C., the court said. A private interment service will be held at Arlington National Cemetery. ... CNN
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« Reply #1179 on: September 18, 2020, 08:01:22 pm »
Good riddance to bad trash.

Now they are going to bury that evil bitch in Arlington National Ceremony. I guess it is her last chance to pollute America.


 
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« Reply #1180 on: September 18, 2020, 08:03:51 pm »
She was a friend of Scalia.
Don't let it be said I never had anything nice to say about her.

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Just days before her death, as her strength waned, Ginsburg dictated this statement to her granddaughter Clara Spera: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."
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The Constitution notwithstanding? Replace her now.

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« Reply #1181 on: September 18, 2020, 08:04:08 pm »
Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y

She finally gets to meet all of the innocent souls she consigned to death by her obscene allegiance to the leftist sacrament of abortion.

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« Reply #1182 on: September 18, 2020, 08:07:19 pm »
Rest in peace, Justice Ginsburg.

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« Reply #1183 on: September 18, 2020, 08:15:20 pm »
Ruth Bader Ginsburg reportedly has died.https://www.wsj.com/articles/ruth-bader-ginsburg-dies-11600472623?mod=e2tw&tesla=y
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« Reply #1184 on: September 18, 2020, 08:34:45 pm »
Rest in peace, Justice Ginsburg.

I agree. RIP
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« Reply #1185 on: September 18, 2020, 08:47:07 pm »
Though I disagree with her, I will not rejoice in her death, knowing how many times "conservatives" have disappointed us when appointed to the high court. It's simply bad karma.

Her passing was expected—unlike Scalia's... ahem.
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« Reply #1186 on: September 18, 2020, 09:10:02 pm »
When push came to shove, Justice Ginsburg stood for the integrity of the judiciary above anything including politics---she slapped down 2019 Democrats' thoughts about Supreme Court packing: If anything would make the Court look partisan, it would be that—one side saying, 'When we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges, so we would have more people who would vote the way we want them to.'

Wrote Damon Root (in the article from which I just extracted Ginsburg's remark during a radio interview), author of one of the best contemporary analyses of the Supreme Court I've read in the past ten years . . .

Ginsburg also knows her history. Roosevelt's court-packing scheme was defeated in 1937 in large part thanks to the principled opposition of members of Roosevelt's own party. In fact, one of Ginsburg's judicial heroes, the progressive legal icon Justice Louis Brandeis (appointed by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson), helped to lead that opposition.

Brandeis was mostly in sync with the goals of Roosevelt's New Deal. But the progressive jurist was deeply offended by Roosevelt's desire to interfere with a co-equal branch of government. So, working mostly behind the scenes, Brandeis went on the counterattack. Perhaps his most important move was to put the court-packing plan's chief congressional critic, Sen. Burton K. Wheeler (D–Mont.), in touch with Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, who had drafted a memo, signed by several justices, which made it clear that the Court not only opposed the president's power grab but also rejected Roosevelt's stated justifications as a self-serving sham. Wheeler unveiled that memo in the Senate to great political effect, and Roosevelt's scheme died a well-deserved death shortly after that.

Ginsburg is now following in Brandeis' admirable footsteps . . .

She deserves plentiful criticism for several opinions and stances on issues before the Court in her time. But she deserves nothing but credit and praise for a stance like that.

RIP Madame Justice.


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« Reply #1187 on: September 18, 2020, 09:14:49 pm »
"I've never wished a man(person) dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." Mark Twain
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It wasn't Twain who said it---it was, ironically (considering his legend in the legal world), Clarence Darrow. And this turns out to be the actual, full remark:

All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.

Somehow, some way, the full quote became a kind of telephone-game-like victim. You know, where one person tells it to the person right next to him (or her), the next passes it on, and by the time it returns to the originator it's either bowdlerised or something completely different---often as not having nothing to do with the original.


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« Reply #1188 on: September 18, 2020, 09:20:51 pm »
When push came to shove, Justice Ginsburg stood for the integrity of the judiciary above anything including politics---she slapped down 2019 Democrats' thoughts about Supreme Court packing: If anything would make the Court look partisan, it would be that—one side saying, 'When we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges, so we would have more people who would vote the way we want them to.'

Wrote Damon Root (in the article from which I just extracted Ginsburg's remark during a radio interview), author of one of the best contemporary analyses of the Supreme Court I've read in the past ten years . . .

Ginsburg also knows her history. Roosevelt's court-packing scheme was defeated in 1937 in large part thanks to the principled opposition of members of Roosevelt's own party. In fact, one of Ginsburg's judicial heroes, the progressive legal icon Justice Louis Brandeis (appointed by a Democratic president, Woodrow Wilson), helped to lead that opposition.

Brandeis was mostly in sync with the goals of Roosevelt's New Deal. But the progressive jurist was deeply offended by Roosevelt's desire to interfere with a co-equal branch of government. So, working mostly behind the scenes, Brandeis went on the counterattack. Perhaps his most important move was to put the court-packing plan's chief congressional critic, Sen. Burton K. Wheeler (D–Mont.), in touch with Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, who had drafted a memo, signed by several justices, which made it clear that the Court not only opposed the president's power grab but also rejected Roosevelt's stated justifications as a self-serving sham. Wheeler unveiled that memo in the Senate to great political effect, and Roosevelt's scheme died a well-deserved death shortly after that.

Ginsburg is now following in Brandeis' admirable footsteps . . .

She deserves plentiful criticism for several opinions and stances on issues before the Court in her time. But she deserves nothing but credit and praise for a stance like that.

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« Reply #1189 on: September 18, 2020, 10:09:08 pm »
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, feminist pioneer and progressive icon, dies at 87

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a trailblazer who fought for gender equality as a lawyer and became a beloved hero of the progressive movement as a justice, died on Friday of complications from pancreatic cancer. When she was confirmed to the court in 1993, Ginsburg was a reserved and relatively unknown court of appeals judge, but during the course of her 27 years on the court she became an improbable pop-culture icon, inspiring everything from an Oscar-nominated documentary film to her own action figure. She was 87.

With the presidential election less than two months away, Ginsburg’s death will undoubtedly kick off a heated battle over how quickly the vacancy should be filled. After Justice Antonin Scalia died in February 2016, Senate Republicans immediately announced that they intended to oppose any effort to confirm a successor to Scalia until after the 2016 presidential election. Although President Barack Obama nominated Judge Merrick Garland in March 2016 to take Scalia’s place, Garland’s nomination went nowhere, and Neil Gorsuch, a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit nominated by President Donald Trump, was confirmed in April 2017 to fill the vacancy created by Scalia’s death. Even before Ginsburg announced her most recent bouts with cancer this summer, McConnell had already made clear last year that, if a vacancy occurred on the court in 2020, he intended to fill it.

At her Supreme Court confirmation hearing, Ginsburg told the Senate Judiciary Committee that her life story “could happen only in America.” Born Joan Ruth Bader on March 15, 1933, she was quickly nicknamed “Kiki” by her older sister Marilyn, who died in 1934 of meningitis at the age of six. The Baders lived in a working-class neighborhood in Brooklyn. Neither of her parents attended college: Her father, Nathan, came to the United States from Russia as a teenager and worked as a furrier; her mother, Celia Amster Bader, was born a few months after her parents arrived in the country from Austria and worked in a garment factory to put her brother through college. Ginsburg later said that her mother “made reading a delight and counseled me constantly to ‘be independent,’ able to fend for myself.” The Baders were Jewish, and Ginsburg recalled, as a child, seeing a sign in front of a Pennsylvania resort that said “No dogs or Jews allowed.”

Ginsburg attended public schools in Brooklyn, where she was a top student involved in a wide range of extracurricular activities – everything from playing the cello in the school orchestra to twirling a baton at football games. But she did not attend her high school graduation in June 1950. Her mother, who had been diagnosed with cervical cancer right around the time that Ginsburg began ninth grade, died two days before the ceremony.

Ginsburg received a full scholarship to Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, where her professors included Vladimir Nabokov, the Russian-born author who would publish the classic novel Lolita in 1955. Nabokov, Ginsburg would say later, “changed the way I read and the way I write. Words could paint pictures, I learned from him.” Another influential professor, Robert Cushman, a constitutional scholar, encouraged her to go to law school.

Soon after arriving at Cornell, she met Martin (Marty) Ginsburg on a blind date. Marty Ginsburg was, Ginsburg said, “the first boy I knew who cared that I had a brain.” She would describe him as “a partner truly extraordinary for his generation, a man who believed at age 18 when we met, and who believes today, that a woman’s work, whether at home or on the job, is as important as a man’s.” She married Marty in 1954, nine days after graduating from Cornell with the highest grade-point average for female students in her class.

Ginsburg gave birth to her daughter, Jane, in July 1955, 14 months before starting at Harvard Law School, where she was one of only nine women in a class of approximately 500. The Ginsburgs hired a caregiver to look after Jane on weekdays from 8 a.m. until 4 p.m.; Ginsburg would spend the late afternoon and early evening with Jane and then resume studying after her daughter went to bed.

At her confirmation hearing, Ginsburg recounted “many indignities” that she endured because of her gender while in law school but that, she said, “one accepted as just part of the scenery,” such as the time that a male employee told her that women were barred from a particular room in the library, which she needed to enter as part of her work for the law review. On another occasion, a dinner with the dean of the law school, Ginsburg and the other women in her class were famously asked to justify taking the place of a man.

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Re: Obituaries for 2020
« Reply #1190 on: September 19, 2020, 12:59:52 am »
She was a friend of Scalia.
Don't let it be said I never had anything nice to say about her.
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She never let the Constitution bother her before..
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« Reply #1191 on: September 19, 2020, 05:13:42 am »
She was the best friend of the pro-choice faction in the entire U.S.  I'll just leave it at that.
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« Reply #1192 on: September 19, 2020, 08:37:55 am »
Wow. This is gonna throw a fuel tanker worth of gas on an already hot election.

I've said it here I have no sympathy for those who cling to power for political purpose long past the time they should have left.

RBG fits square in that category. It's obviously she's been going rapidly downhill for a year at least.

I'll save my sympathies for the family.
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« Reply #1193 on: September 19, 2020, 08:05:18 pm »
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It wasn't Twain who said it---it was, ironically (considering his legend in the legal world), Clarence Darrow. And this turns out to be the actual, full remark:

All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.

Somehow, some way, the full quote became a kind of telephone-game-like victim. You know, where one person tells it to the person right next to him (or her), the next passes it on, and by the time it returns to the originator it's either bowdlerised or something completely different---often as not having nothing to do with the original.
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« Reply #1194 on: September 20, 2020, 09:15:49 am »
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Ozzy Osbourne's former drummer, Lee Kerslake, has died aged 73.

The musician had been undergoing treatment for prostate cancer.

He is best known for his performances on the Black Sabbath frontman's critically-acclaimed debut album, Blizzard of Ozz, and was also the drummer in heavy metal band Uriah Heep.

Osbourne wrote on Facebook: "It's been 39 years since I've seen Lee but he lives for ever on the records he played on for me."

In a tribute posted on the band's Twitter page, fellow Uriah Heep member Mick Box wrote: "Lee was one of the kindest men on earth, as well as being a brother he was an incredible drummer, singer and song writer!



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« Reply #1195 on: September 20, 2020, 07:31:37 pm »
Not an obituary from today, but a death from September 20, 1973.
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« Reply #1196 on: September 20, 2020, 07:44:58 pm »
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Now I think we all feel old. What a talent.
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« Reply #1197 on: September 21, 2020, 03:00:44 am »
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Now I think we all feel old. What a talent.
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« Reply #1198 on: September 21, 2020, 04:06:02 am »
Aged. Time in a Bottle and Operator were favorites, too.

And Leroy Brown. Sad he was only 30. Way too young.  8888crybaby
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« Reply #1199 on: September 21, 2020, 04:08:13 am »
His little known and underappreciated 'Rapid Roy the Stock Car Boy'.... There ain't hardly a Croce song out there that I don't know by heart...  :beer: