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Weather looks crappy.....
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Weather looks crappy.....
They launched in the fog last time...this is nothing...LOLOLOLOL.

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They launched in the fog last time...this is nothing...LOLOLOLOL.

I thought that was stupid at the time. :shrug:
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I thought that was stupid at the time. :shrug:
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LIVE: Starship SN15 Flight Test

 What about it!?

SpaceX launches Starship SN15 out of Boca Chica Texas for the next high altitude flight test. This is Starship #5 to try and stick the landing at the south Texas launch site without an RUD in preparation for a Mars colony.

SpaceX and Elon Musk are testing out new ways to make the Starship landing more predictable! Starship #15 does things different though! With hundreds of upgrades to hard & software including brand new Raptor engines, it is the most advanced and promising candidate yet!

Will it finally survive the landing? Let's find out!



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The sky looks overcast, again.
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Fueling has started.

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Nailed the Landing!!!!!!
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SpaceX Starship SN15 soars through clouds, nails landing!

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SpaceX's Starship SN15 prototype flew to an altitude of 6.2 miles (10 kilometers) and landed about 6 minutes after liftoff on May 5, 2021. It launched from SpaceX's Boca Chica, Texas facility.


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SpaceX Starship SN15 soars through clouds, nails landing!

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SpaceX's Starship SN15 prototype flew to an altitude of 6.2 miles (10 kilometers) and landed about 6 minutes after liftoff on May 5, 2021. It launched from SpaceX's Boca Chica, Texas facility.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKvMC3Y1kI
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Nailed the Landing!!!!!!
Awsome, Bezos and the others must be pissed! :silly:

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Starship SN15 | Medium Altitude Test Flight

Everyday Astronaut 5/6/2021

Lift Off Time   May 05, 2021 – 22:24:10 UTC | 17:24:10 CDT

Mission Name   Medium Altitude Test Flight

Launch Provider

(What rocket company launched it?)   SpaceX

Customer

(Who paid for this?)   SpaceX

Rocket   Starship SN15

Launch Location   Sub-orbital Test Stand A, Starbase, Texas, United States

Payload mass   There was no payload on this test flight

Where did the satellites go?   There was no payload on this test flight

Did they attempt to recover the first stage?   Yes. However, in the Super Heavy/Starship stack this will be the second stage and will also be recovered.

Where did the first stage land?   On the edge of the landing pad about 360 meters (~1,000 feet) from Test Stand A, Starbase, Texas, United States

Did they attempt to recover the fairings?   There are no fairings on Starship

Were these fairings new?   There are no fairings on Starship

How was the weather?   Low cloud layer provided minimal visibility.

This was the:   – 1st successful landing of a Starship prototype

– 1st flight of SN15

– 4th flight of a Starship prototype to 10 km

– 7th flight of a Starship prototype (excluding three Starhopper hops)

– 5th flight of Starship with a nosecone and aerodynamic control surfaces

Where to watch   Official replay

Everyday Astronaut replay

Live updates on the exact events leading up to and during launch on launch day

How did it go?

For the first time ever, SpaceX has successfully landed a Starship prototype on the landing pad approximately 360 meters (~1,000 feet) from the launch mount. SN15 traveled up to an altitude of about 10 km, shutting down each Raptor one by one on ascent. The vehicle then performed the belly flop maneuver as it fell back down towards Earth’s surface. Just above the landing pad, Starship flipped from horizontal to vertical igniting two engines. During it’s landing burn, the vehicle scrubbed off its remaining vertical velocity and performed a soft touchdown on the pad.

Shortly after landing, there was a small fire coming out from underneath the skirt. The water hoses located at the edges of the landing pad then turned on and extinguished the fire. Shortly after the fire was put out, Starship was safed. This concludes a nominal flight and landing of a Starship prototype for SpaceX.
Starship SN15 Flight Profile

Similarly to the previous prototypes, SN15 flew up to an altitude of around 10 kilometers (~6.2 miles) before performing its belly flop maneuver and falling back down towards the landing pad. Starship intentionally shut down its three Raptor engines during ascent and later reignite them during the flip maneuver. Under the power of its Raptor engines, it flipped from horizontal to vertical on two engines and landed on the landing pad. Below is a table of each event from SN15’s flight.

More: https://everydayastronaut.com/starship-sn15-medium-altitude-test-flight/


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Starship SN15. All legs are damaged and SpaceX needs upgrading immediately. Before the second launch


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNH-hOSuXc
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Starship SN15. All legs are damaged and SpaceX needs upgrading immediately. Before the second launch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXNH-hOSuXc
The legs are designed to absorb the energy and crush....Just put on some new legs...no problem.

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The legs are designed to absorb the energy and crush....Just put on some new legs...no problem.

I believe Elon Musk had previously said the design of theses will change.  The video shows some nice views of the legs; that is the reason I shared it.
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Elon Musk says SpaceX might refly Starship after historic landing

Teslarati  By Eric Ralph 5/7/2021

https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-spacex-to-refly-starship-sn15

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Update: CEO Elon Musk says that SpaceX “might try to refly SN15 soon” after it became the first Starship to ace a high-altitude launch and survive the landing. In other words, SpaceX might be about to kick off what’s bound to be a long and fruitful future of Starship reusability.

    Might try to refly SN15 soon
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 7, 2021

Less than six months after high-altitude flight testing began, SpaceX has successfully landed a full-size Starship prototype in one piece, giving the company its first real opportunity to inspect a flown vehicle with flaps, a nose, and three Raptor engines.

That spectacular success will simultaneously give SpaceX a wealth of data from any onboard cameras and data recorders, as well as the physical condition of Starship itself – including three Raptor engines with several minutes of flight time. While SpaceX likely already managed to determine a great deal from over-the-air telemetry and wreckage taken from Starships SN8 through SN11, it now has a virtually unharmed, full-scale, full-fidelity prototype to truly compare and contrast with more theoretical engineering and flight performance models.

Perhaps most importantly, though, SN15’s success also raises the question: what’s next for SpaceX and its Starship program?

The reality is that things could go any number of directions depending on Starship SN15’s condition and just how successful SpaceX determines the flight really was. If Starship SN15 and its tanks, flaps, and Raptors are all in impeccable condition, it’s not impossible to imagine that SpaceX could do what it did after Starship SN8’s near-total success and scrap Starship prototypes SN17, SN18, and SN19 before work really begins. While unlikely, SN15 could even fly a second time in that scenario.

Starship SN16 is already more or less complete could easily be ready to roll to the launch pad within the next week. Odds are good that SpaceX will use SN16 to (hopefully) replicate Starship SN15’s spectacular success and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vehicle’s current design has fixed the issues that doomed SN8 through SN11. With SpaceX’s Starship program, though, just about anything is possible – especially at a point that CEO Elon Musk appears to be seriously considering a giant tower with arms as a replacement for landing legs.

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SpaceX Starship SN15 has Landed! - Launch and Landing in 4K Slowmo

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SpaceX Starship has landed! Re-live SN15's historic flight and first landing on Cinco de Mayo from Starbase South Texas. Witness slow-motion footage of launch and landing from our cameras up-close to the launchpad. Subscribe for the upcoming SN15 mini-documentary release, in production now.

Huge thanks to team @Everyday Astronaut   and Gene and Rachael of @SPadre   for making all this possible. Special thanks to Cooper Hime at Aperture Cinematics for some amazing behind the scenes captured during remote video camera setup (https://twitter.com/Cooper_Hime). Gene helped capture the excitement from the public beach at Isla Blanca and Micah crushed the remote robot cam control into the clouds.


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Virgin Galactic VSS Unity Test Flight LIVE Watch Party - SPCE Week in Review

 SPCE Week in Review

Join r/VirginGalactic and The Spaceport Discord Server as we monitor progress of Virgin Galactic's VSS Unity's Rocket Powered Test Flight from Spaceport America on Saturday, May 22nd 2021.

We'll follow along with Virgin Galactic's test flight update tweets, and provide any available video sources as they come up!


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SpaceX has the world's lowest launch cost at $2300, and they lead the world for material launched to orbit.

SpaceX pioneered the methane engine, which has a higher exhaust speed (3.7 km/s) than traditional
kerosene engines (3.1 km/s). The SpaceX methane engine also has a mighty thrust/weight of 200, the highest
of any rocket. This means fewer engines are needed, saving on cost.

SpaceX pioneered recycling the engines in the first rocket. The engines are 35%
of the rocket cost and hence worth saving.

SpaceX once teamed up with Stratolaunch to do air launch, but then SpaceX backed out. Stratolaunch has yet to
produce a working launch platform.

Payload launched in 2020, in tons.

America  SpaceX     286
China    CNSA       242
America  NASA       103
Russia   Roscosmos   80
Europe   ESA         27
Japan    JAXA         8
America  Orbital      7
India    ISRO         2
Canada   CSA          1
America  Rocket Lab    .7
America  Blue Origin  0
America  Stratolaunch 0

SpaceX pioneered the methane engine, which has a higher exhaust speed than
traditional kerosene engines.  SpaceX methane engines also have a mighty
power/mass ratio than kerosene engines, and they're cheaper than the
competition's engines.

The fuel with the highest exhaust speed is hyrogen, but you can't use it for the first stage because hydrogen's
density is too low. Also, hydrogen is a challenge because it has to be cooled to 20 Kelvin to liquefy. The
exhaust speed for various fuels is, in km/s:

Hydrogen + Oxygen    4.4
Methane  + Oxygen    3.7
Kerosene + Oxygen    3.1
Solid fuel           2.7

For the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, the engines are 35% of the cost and are hence worth saving.
SpaceX pioneered recycling the first rocket stage. For a Falcon 9 rocket,

Payload to LEO      = 22800  kg
Launch cost         =    52  Million $
Launch cost/kg      =  2280  $/kg
Number of engines   =     9
Cost per engine     =    .2  Million $
Total engine cost   =    18  Million $
Engine cost fraction=   .35

Historically, transport is a big deal. Railroads opened up the American frontier and there was a race to
build rail lines. The future will see a race to launch material to orbit. The timeline of transport is:

1499      Sea route connecting Europe to India discovered, by going around Africa (Vasco da Gama)
1838      Steam-powered ships
1869      Transcontinental railroad
1887      Gasoline cars are first commercialized (Karl Benz)
1903      First aircraft built by the Wright Brothers
1955      Fission thermal rocket developed
1962      First communications satellite
1969      Man on the moon

Article on astronautics: https://www.jaymaron.com/astronautics.html
SpaceX: https://www.jaymaron.com/astronautics.html#spacex



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Welcome Aboard @jaymaron !!!

Some very interesting information. I took a quick look at your links. I'll definitely go back and spend more time there.

I am a true fan of SpaceX. When I worked at JSC several of my co-workers worked with SpaceX. Me, not so much. My oldest son though works for SpaceX at Boca Chica on building ground equipment. I definitely plan to go over to Boca Chica to watch a launch. It would be a blast to watch the upcoming Orbital Launch.

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Nice info @jaymaron.

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SpaceX’s first flight-proven Starship rolled back to factory for likely retirement

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 5/27/2021

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While SpaceX has spent the better part of three weeks inspecting the first flight-proven Starship to survive a high-altitude launch and landing, the company appears to have decided to retire the rocket instead of flying it again.

On May 25th, four days after Starship serial number 15 (SN15) was reinstalled on one of SpaceX’s two suborbital launch mounts, a crane was attached to its nose and a transporter staged beside it. One day later, the historic Starship prototype was lifted off of Mount B, installed on that transporter, and rolled away from the launch pad and back towards SpaceX’s Boca Chica, Texas Starship factory.

The day after Starship SN15 was reinstalled on a launch mount, giving SpaceX unrestricted access to its aft, all three of the rocket’s flight-proven Raptor engines – the first of their kind to survive the flight profile intact – were removed. Given the significant value of tearing down and inspecting the first flight-proven high-altitude Raptors, that removal was likely guaranteed regardless of the future of SN15, though it certainly left the Starship at a crossroads

    — Mary (@BocaChicaGal) May 21, 2021

    I wish I may, I wish I might,
    See SN15 return to flight.
    But regardless of her raptors’ fate,
    She’ll always be the first flopper that landed… and that’s just darn great.

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GAME OVER! Blue Origin Is A Complete Failure?!

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SpaceX Kicks Off Starship Super Heavy Booster Test Campaign With A Tank Proof Test

TESMANIAN  by Evelyn Arevalo June 09, 2021

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/bn-star

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On Tuesday afternoon, SpaceX kicked off the Starship Super Heavy booster’s test campaign with a proof test of a tank referred to as ‘BN2.1’. During the cryogenic proof test, the stainless-steel tank was subjected to extremely low temperatures as it was filled with liquid nitrogen. This test is conducted causes the tank to experience high-pressure to simulate the stress it would experience during a flight to space. The test helps engineers assess the tank’s structural strength and provides them with insight to know whether the tank’s construction technique and design needs improvement. Testing a smaller tank is better than risking an entire booster if they come across an issue. After finishing all tests with BN2.1, engineers can implement what they learned to prepare the Super Heavy Booster 2 prototype for testing.

Meanwhile, the Starbase facility continues to expand and the company is moving quickly to assemble the launch tower that will support the booster. Super Heavy must be capable of being rapidly reusable, for that purpose SpaceX will design a launch tower that could quickly ‘catch’ the booster as it returns from orbit with a propulsive descent. The final version of Super Heavy will be the most powerful rocket in the world, with over 30 methane-fueled Raptor engines it will generate over 16 million pounds of thrust – which is over twice the thrust of the Saturn V rocket that launched the Apollo missions to the lunar surface. Musk shared they plan to test “29 Raptors on [the] booster initially, rising to 32 later this year, along with thrust increase per engine [...]," he said. SpaceX aims to perform the first orbital flight test with the Starship Super Heavy duo this summer, no earlier than July 1st. If the company obtains regulatory approval, they could attempt to launch the vehicle from Starbase in Texas to orbit, then land it off the coast of Hawaii. You can watch SpaceX Starship development progress Live in the video below, courtesy of LabPadre via YouTube.

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SpaceX Starship Phase 3 begins! First test candidate at Launch Site!

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Splashy plans: SpaceX foresees water launches/landings

My RGV By Steve Clark - The Brownsville Herald - June 9, 2021

https://myrgv.com/local-news/2021/06/09/making-a-splash-spacex-plans-for-water-launches-landings/

SpaceX’s first orbital flight of a Starship prototype will launch from the company’s production/test site at Boca Chica and wind up in the water — on purpose.

According to a document SpaceX filed with the Federal Communications Commission last month, the massive Super Heavy booster stage used to push the Starship spacecraft into orbit will separate approximately two minutes and 10 seconds into the flight and land in the Gulf of Mexico about 20 miles offshore from Boca Chica.

The orbital Starship will continue flying between the Florida straits and, once in orbit, will execute a powered, targeted, soft ocean landing roughly 62 miles off the northwest coast of Kauai, Hawaii, according to the FCC filing. From launch to splashdown off the Hawaiian coast will take about 90 minutes, said SpaceX, which provided no launch date.

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Meanwhile, the company is preparing for offshore launches and landings using converted offshore oil-drilling platforms. SpaceX well over a year ago began advertising for offshore operations engineers to “work as part of a team of engineers and technicians to design and build an operational offshore rocket launch facility.”

SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk tweeted last July that “SpaceX is building floating, superheavy-class spaceports for Mars, moon & hypersonic travel around Earth.” He also commented that the launch and landing of Starship/Super Heavy (collectively “Starship”) “are not subtle” and that to protect heavily populated areas from extreme noise levels the offshore launches would have to take place many miles from the coast.


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...soft ocean landing roughly 62 miles off the northwest coast of Kauai, Hawaii,...

@Elderberry

Do you know the reasoning for not landing in the Gulf and save transport costs?
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@Elderberry

Do you know the reasoning for not landing in the Gulf and save transport costs?

There are No transport costs. It will be a simulated "soft landing" into the ocean.

I have not seen the orbital trajectory of the flight. It would probably take several orbits to be able to land back at Boca Chica.

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There are No transport costs. It will be a simulated "soft landing" into the ocean.

I have not seen the orbital trajectory of the flight. It would probably take several orbits to be able to land back at Boca Chica.

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Splashy plans: SpaceX foresees water launches/landings

My RGV By Steve Clark - The Brownsville Herald - June 9, 2021

https://myrgv.com/local-news/2021/06/09/making-a-splash-spacex-plans-for-water-launches-landings/

SpaceX’s first orbital flight of a Starship prototype will launch from the company’s production/test site at Boca Chica and wind up in the water — on purpose.

According to a document SpaceX filed with the Federal Communications Commission last month, the massive Super Heavy booster stage used to push the Starship spacecraft into orbit will separate approximately two minutes and 10 seconds into the flight and land in the Gulf of Mexico about 20 miles offshore from Boca Chica.

The orbital Starship will continue flying between the Florida straits and, once in orbit, will execute a powered, targeted, soft ocean landing roughly 62 miles off the northwest coast of Kauai, Hawaii, according to the FCC filing. From launch to splashdown off the Hawaiian coast will take about 90 minutes, said SpaceX, which provided no launch date.

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Meanwhile, the company is preparing for offshore launches and landings using converted offshore oil-drilling platforms. SpaceX well over a year ago began advertising for offshore operations engineers to “work as part of a team of engineers and technicians to design and build an operational offshore rocket launch facility.”

SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk tweeted last July that “SpaceX is building floating, superheavy-class spaceports for Mars, moon & hypersonic travel around Earth.” He also commented that the launch and landing of Starship/Super Heavy (collectively “Starship”) “are not subtle” and that to protect heavily populated areas from extreme noise levels the offshore launches would have to take place many miles from the coast.



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SpaceX Starship Orbital Test likely to miss July! Why? | FAA defends SpaceX in front of Congress


ENGINEERING TODAY  6/21/2021

SpaceX Starship Orbital Test likely to miss July! Why  FAA defends SpaceX in front of Congress

Hello Friends, Welcome back to another episode by Engineering Today and hope you are doing well. Today we have four updates to share. Our first update is based on the probable delay in orbital launch progress. Secondly we will talk about FAA defending SpaceX in front of Congress. Our next update is about Launcher’s new satellite platform. Lastly we will talk about the launch of Yaogan-30 satellites and Tianqi-14.


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Elon Musk says SpaceX’s second Starship booster prototype is almost finished

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 6/25/2021

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk says that the second Starship booster prototype is “almost done” and has revealed that work on the first flightworthy booster has yet to begin.

For unknown reasons, SpaceX has recently changed the naming scheme for Starship and Super Heavy boosters. The booster SpaceX is currently assembling in Boca Chica has been referred to as “Booster 2” by Musk himself but, according to NASASpaceflight, is internally known as Booster 3 or B3, replacing its former Booster Number 3 (BN3) designation.

Regardless, SpaceX began stacking the Super Heavy booster prototype now known as B3 in mid-May. Around six weeks later, 23 or 24 rings have been stacked to create a partially finished prototype 9m (~30 ft) wide and approximately 42m (~140 ft) tall.

We’re almost done with first prototype booster. This will go to test stand A. Next one will fly to orbit. Team has been crushing it many days & nights in a row!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 25, 2021

Super Heavy Booster forward dome with some interesting new modifications. Booster 2 lifted in High Bay for stacking on aft section. Also, what looks like a starship forward dome was sleeved with the unknown section from yesterday. Maybe some kind of test tank? @NASASpaceflight pic.twitter.com/n8Attvv7X7

— Jack Beyer (@thejackbeyer) June 15, 2021

Just like Super Heavy ‘pathfinder’ BN1, which was scrapped almost the instant it reached its full height last March, Booster 3 appears to destined to stand 36 rings – 65m (~215 ft) – tall once complete. While drastically oversimplifying the process of vertically assembling the largest rocket booster ever built, that means that Super Heavy B3 is just shy of two-thirds (~65%) complete.

More: https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-booster-prototype-progress-elon-musk/

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SpaceX's Mechazilla Rises, Starliner Prepares, Nauka Launch, Wally Funk's flight to Space

 Marcus House Jul 24, 2021

Not only did we see Raptor action this week with SpaceX’s record-sized rocket booster, but we witnessed the launch of Russia’s Nauka Laboratory for the International Space Station. Better late than never. We have updates on Hubble's Trouble and Rocket Lab’s anomaly review. The Dragon has been tamed yet again, and of course, we had the first crewed flight of New Shepard with Wally Funk’s long-awaited ride to space. Quite the action-packed week right there!


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SpaceX CEO Elon Musk reveals Starship factory upgrade plans

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 7/26/2021

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-elon-musk-starship-factory-new-high-bay/

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CEO Elon Musk says that SpaceX is about to begin the construction of “a much larger high bay” adjacent to the existing structure, an 82m (~270 ft) tall building used to complete assembly of Starship and Super Heavy boosters.

    Construction starts soon on a much larger high bay just north of current high bay
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 25, 2021

    Only a little taller, but much bigger base & two gantry cranes that run full span
    — Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 26, 2021

According to Musk, the newest addition to SpaceX’s arsenal of Starship production facilities will be located “just north” of an existing high bay, which measures approximately 30m by 25m (100′ x 80′). Most importantly, Boca Chica’s high bay is tall enough for SpaceX to use a bridge crane to stack 50m (165′) Starships and ~70m (~230′) Super Heavy boosters – far more efficient and protected than using wheeled or tracked cranes to assemble rockets out in the open.

Construction of the existing high bay began in May 2020 and was more or less complete by the start of 2021. The structure was truly finished in April 2021 with the installation of a heavy-duty bridge crane, though work continues to this day on what CEO Elon Musk has described as a bar and viewing area to be located at the top of the bay.

Musk’s assertion that the new facility will be “much larger” can be interpreted a number of ways. There’s a distant possibility that SpaceX will build a true NASA-style Vehicle Assembly Building like the colossal VAB used to fully assembled Saturn V and the Space Shuttle at Kennedy Space Center. For Starship, that would require a structure at least ~130m (~430 ft) tall – more than 50% taller than the current ‘high bay’.

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Jeff Bezos is offering to cover billions in costs if NASA remedies its 'mistake' and gives Blue Origin the chance to compete with SpaceX again for a moon-lander contract

Yahoo News by Grace Kay 7/26/2021

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jeff-bezos-offering-cover-billions-153139228.html

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•  Bezos sent an open letter to NASA offering to cover $2 billion for the Human Landing System program.

•  Blue Origin's offer would help it compete with SpaceX for a $2.9 billion NASA contract.

•  In the letter, Bezos criticizes NASA's original decision to select SpaceX as the sole winner.

Jeff Bezos' space company is offering to cover billions of dollars in costs for a contract with NASA to take astronauts to the moon.

Blue Origin said it would cover up to $2 billion for the first two years of production of a moon lander, waiving payments for the first two years if NASA awards the company the project.

The company is also offering to develop and launch a pathfinder mission at its own expense, as well as work with NASA on a fixed-price contract, which would free the space agency from any cost overages.

The offer could make a contract with Blue Origin a cheaper option than one with Elon Musk's company. SpaceX was originally handed the NASA contract for the Human Landing System program in April. NASA was forced to suspend the contract in May after Bezos' company filed a protest against the $2.9 billion contract, calling it "unfair." The contract will remain suspended until rulings have been made on the protests.

In an open letter to NASA Administrator Bill Nelson on Monday, Bezos highlighted his commitment to keeping the Human Landing System program competitive by having NASA select two companies to build machinery to take astronauts to the moon instead of just one. Before selecting a single winner of the contest, NASA had given 10-month contracts to SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Dynetics to begin work on lunar landers so the agency could pick from a variety of options.


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Jeff Bezos is offering to cover billions in costs if NASA remedies its 'mistake' and gives Blue Origin the chance to compete with SpaceX again for a moon-lander contract

Yahoo News by Grace Kay 7/26/2021

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jeff-bezos-offering-cover-billions-153139228.html
:pondering: Do you go with the cheaper less successful company that has taken longer to reach milestones that have been met and surpassed by a competitor who started later or do you stick with the proven innovator setting new standards in spaceflight? Save money or proven innovator? Someone who outperforms the schedule or someone who fails to meet schedules? How much is an astronauts life worth?

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Hotels near capacity as several hundred SpaceX employees arrive in Brownsville in preparation for orbital launch

Valley Central by  Gaby Moreno 7/29/2021

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Development at the SpaceX Boca Chica launch site is ramping up under orders from company CEO Elon Musk, in an effort to finish the orbital launch tower and stack the starship and booster prototypes before launching into orbit. Musk has called on several hundred employees from other SpaceX sites to temporarily relocate to the area until the project is finished. 

In the effort to launch the fully stacked Starship SN20 and Super Heavy B4 prototypes into orbit, Musk has called on 500 employees from SpaceX sites in Hawthorn, California, Cape Canaveral, Florida, and McGregor, Texas, to relocate to the Brownsville/Boca Chica area temporarily.

Musk’s ambitious goals to reach orbit by July have been delayed, but supplemental employees have been arriving in Brownsville to help finish constructing the orbital launch tower that will support the starship and booster, as well as the vehicle itself.

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Space start-up Varda, founded by SpaceX and Founders Fund veterans, aims to build factories in orbit

CNBC by Michael Sheetz 7/29/2021

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Varda Space Industries, a start-up founded less than a year ago by a pair with experience at Elon Musk’s SpaceX and Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund, has now raised more than $50 million as it works toward its first mission in the first quarter of 2023.

“The Varda mission is to build the first space factory – essentially the first industrial park on orbit,” CEO Will Bruey, who spent much of the past decade working on SpaceX’s Cargo Dragon spacecraft, told CNBC.

Varda raised $42 million in a round led by Khosla Ventures and Caffeinated Capital, and joined by investors including Lux Capital, General Catalyst, and Founders Fund. With $11 million raised in a prior seed round, the company has brought in $53 million since its founding eight months ago.

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SpaceX is building Starship’s first orbital-class booster at a breakneck pace

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 7/30/2021

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-booster-production-breakneck-pace/

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Within the last week, SpaceX’s South Texas Starship factory appears to have kicked things into high gear and are now assembling the first orbital-class Super Heavy booster prototype at a breakneck pace.

While the assembly of the Super Heavy known as Booster 4 (B4) wasn’t too dissimilar to what CEO Elon Musk described as a “very hard” build of Booster 3 up to last week, work on the rocket has visibly accelerated. Since January 2020, the process of building Starships and Super Heavy boosters has been fairly simple. Both onsite and offsite, raw materials (mostly sheet steel) are cut, bent, and welded into relatively small parts that then make their way to (or around) Boca Chica by truck, forklift, or crane.

With the help of jigs and good amount of automation, the resulting hardware is then welded together to form domes, header tanks, transfer tubes, tank barrels, flaps, and more. Once subassembly is complete, those integrated rocket sections are reinforced with stringers, ribs, and baffles and outfitted with mechanisms, hardpoints, brackets, plumbing, and more. Finally, final assembly – better known as stacking and by far the most visible step – can begin and technicians stack each of those premade segments on top of each other to form a complete Starship or Super Heavy.

While part fabrication and subassembly integration takes weeks or months on its own, those earlier steps can be done more or less simultaneously, meaning that SpaceX can prepare sections for several different ships and boosters at the same time. For the last six or so months,at any given moment, SpaceX has had 40-60+ rings in work as part of 15-20+ different ring ‘sections’ visible all across Starbase.

Respectively, each Starship and Super Heavy booster require 20 and 36 rings apiece, while each of the propellant storage tanks SpaceX is building itself for the rocket’s first orbital launch pad require 12-15. All told, SpaceX usually has a combination of around 3-5 ships, boosters, and GSE tanks in some stage of assembly. Unsurprisingly, some assembly is harder than others and building the first in a series of prototypes has almost invariably taken far longer than the later average that develops.


                  Booster 3      Booster 4
LOx tank start     May 20th       July 16th
LOx tank finish    June 18th      July 31st?
CH4 tank start     June 24th      July 28th
CH4 tank finish    June 27th      July 29th
Final stack        June 29th      Aug 1st?


In that sense, it’s not a huge surprise that SpaceX’s Booster 4 assembly has quickly surpassed the pace set with Booster 3 less than a month earlier. SpaceX began stacking Super Heavy B3 around May 20th, starting with the rocket’s aft liquid oxygen (LOx) tank. Five separate stacks are required to turn the LOx tank’s 23 steel rings into a single structure – a process that took SpaceX about a month with Booster 3.

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SpaceX is building Starship’s first orbital-class booster at a breakneck pace

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 7/30/2021

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-booster-production-breakneck-pace/
SpaceX stacked the launch table on it's legs today.  Pretty amazing watching those HUGE cranes work together to lift that incredibly heavy table.

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SpaceX installs 29 engines on giant Super Heavy Mars rocket (photos)

Space.com by By Mike Wall 8/2/2021

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The company is gearing up for the first orbital test flight of its Starship system.

Starship is powering up.

SpaceX plans to launch the first orbital test flight of Starship, its reusable deep-space transportation system, in the next few months from the company's South Texas site, near the Gulf Coast village of Boca Chica.

The company has made significant strides toward that milestone in the past few days, getting Starship's giant first-stage booster, known as Super Heavy, ready to fly.

"Installing Starship booster engines for first orbital flight," SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk said via Twitter yesterday (Aug. 1) in a post that included a photo of the rocket, with himself holding his young son nearby. And today (Aug. 2), Musk tweeted a close-up photo of Super Heavy's base, which is now bristling with Raptor engines.

Super Heavy will initially sport 29 Raptors, and future versions will have 32 of the engines, Musk has said. Starship's upper stage, a 165-foot-tall (50 meters) spacecraft called Starship, will be powered by six additional Raptors.


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Good Lord!  That beast is huge.  29 Raptors?   :thud:
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SpaceX's first flightworthy Starship booster has been fitted with 29 Raptor engines and could roll to the launch pad tomorrow

In a virtually unprecedented feat of engineering and rocketry, SpaceX appears to have installed a full 29 Raptor engines on Starship’s first flightworthy Super Heavy booster in a single evening.

After accepting delivery of five new Raptor engines earlier the same day, Super Heavy Booster 4’s (B4) first Raptor rolled out of one of SpaceX’s Starship factory tents around 6pm CDT to form what would become a line of engines awaiting installation. One by one, Raptors were rolled out of that tent and by 5am CDT, an incredible 25 engines had been spotted and installed on Super Heavy. Come shift handoff around 6am, 27 Raptors had reportedly been installed in 12 hours. The two remaining engines likely joined them an hour or two later, marking 29 high-performance rocket engines installed in just 12-14 hours.


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SpaceX Full-Stack is Cancelled Due to High Winds, But Musk Says 'Mechazilla' Is the Answer

Tech Times by Isaiah Richard 8/5/2021

SpaceX has attempted to do a full-stack earlier today, but was greeted with high winds and eventually got canceled on its trial. This led the public and its fans to fear the future of the full-stack flights with the actual spacecraft, one that would tower in Boca Chica. However, Elon Musk said that there should not be any panic as they have "Mechazilla."

Sadly, the Starship and the Super Heavy Booster rocket get to see another day without getting on top of each other-to serve its purpose of soon going to Mars.

Yes, you heard that right; SpaceX's first attempt to stack its Mars spacecraft atop each other gets canceled, and the Full-Stack further its wait for people to see the enormous combination.

Yes, you heard that right; SpaceX's first attempt to stack its Mars spacecraft atop each other gets canceled, and the Full-Stack further its wait for people to see the enormous combination.

The public was promised the full-stack in July, but that did not happen, as preparations made by SpaceX only started last month, as seen on Musk's tweets.

More: https://www.techtimes.com/articles/263817/20210805/spacex-full-stack-cancelled-due-high-winds-musk-mechazilla-answer.htm


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LIVE: Starship Prototype Ship 20 Stacked on Super Heavy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2_dfvRZ4M