Why the House won't vote for impeachment

[mystery-ak]

November 5, 2019
Why the House won't vote for impeachment
By Tim Jones

Although the Democrats may have done a dumb thing by initiating an impeachment process, they aren't so stupid as to damage their electoral prospects as well as their credibility in the wake of the abject failure of the Mueller investigation. So the too-smart-by-half Democratic elites will take the short-term hit to their credibility on an impeachment inquiry rather than vote out Articles of impeachment from the floor of the House of Representatives.

First, what kind of Articles of Impeachment can they write? The quid pro quo claim is a complete non-starter where in essence they are trying to criminalize the words and the foreign policy of Trump by divining his intention in order to make their case for impeachment. There is absolutely no law they can point to that he broke in his conversation with President Volodymyr Zelensky. Second, it can't even claim to be a violation of campaign finance laws.

So what do the Democrats have to go on? Absolutely nothing. Hypothetically, if they were to write up a couple of completely bogus Articles of Impeachment, they know they don't have a chance of surviving a trial in the Senate. There is also the possibility that some of the Democrat representatives who were elected in 2018 in districts that Trump won in 2016, will vote against the articles along with some Democrats who actually have a remaining principle or two.

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[sneakypete]

The whole point of this thing is not to change the minds of anyone who votes along party lines. It is to pull in the "undecided voters" who MAY normally vote Dim or Rep,but who don't identify with either party and who only pay attention to politics a couple of months every 4 years. Lots of these people never even vote in local or state elections,only Presidential elections.

There are enough of them out there to throw an election either way every 4 years. If the Dims can pull off a political "head shake" and pull in THOSE votes,they can win.

It's the only chance they have,and they know it.

Granted,this Presidential election is pretty unique because there seems to be a LOT of the normal Party Drones that hate Trump so much for "taking it away" from their RINO of choice that they will refuse to vote for him,and some will even vote for the Communist candidate with the D behind it's name. These fools are making it a LOT closer than it should have been,and the more Trump accomplishes the more they hate him. How DARE an outsider like him come in and upset their apple carts!

[Jazzhead]

The point of the charade is to ratchet up the madness so high as to make undecided voters cry "uncle".   

[sneakypete]

The point of the charade is to ratchet up the madness so high as to make undecided voters cry "uncle".   

@Jazzhead

Is that you,Schiff? WHY THE HELL would the Dims want to make the undecided voters not want to vote,when they MUST have their votes to have any chance at all of winning?

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead

Is that you,Schiff? WHY THE HELL would the Dims want to make the undecided voters not want to vote,when they MUST have their votes to have any chance at all of winning?

They are trying to frame the dynamic this way - vote for Trump and the chaos continues for another four years.  Vote for the Dem and the boil is lanced.   Remember,  independents aren't partisans,  nor do they think in battle terms like partisans.    They simply want politicians and politics to get back to "normal".

This is what worries me so much about the 2020 election.  The Dems are poised to nominate a socialist,  and that's a direct threat to our prosperity and perhaps even our Constitution.   But the manufactured chaos over Trump is designed to create a distraction.   Low information voters and less engaged voters want relief from the daily chaos,  and will be tempted to vote for the Dem without considering the consequences.   

What I want to see is a straightforward election fought over proven GOP policies that grow the economy and sustain jobs for citizens,  vs.  the threat of unbridled socialism and counterproductive "structural change".   I'm not so sure that contrast can be effectively presented with Trump as the nominee.       

[Absalom]

Agreed, the impeachment strategy chosen by the D's is foolhardy and rash,
yet be careful here, as Trump has repeatedly proven himself to be emotional
and impulsive, making him prone to serious error.
The impeachment fandango may consume DC and the msm but plain people
lead real lives and are beyond fed-up w/this crap.
A real danger is they will say "the hell w/both of you" and stay home Nov/2020!!!

[Cyber Liberty]

They are trying to frame the dynamic this way - vote for Trump and the chaos continues for another four years.  Vote for the Dem and the boil is lanced.   Remember,  independents aren't partisans,  nor do they think in battle terms like partisans.    They simply want politicians and politics to get back to "normal".

No comment.

[Right_in_Virginia]

They are trying to frame the dynamic this way - vote for Trump and the chaos continues for another four years.  Vote for the Dem and the boil is lanced.   Remember,  independents aren't partisans,  nor do they think in battle terms like partisans.    They simply want politicians and politics to get back to "normal".

This is what worries me so much about the 2020 election.  The Dems are poised to nominate a socialist,  and that's a direct threat to our prosperity and perhaps even our Constitution.   But the manufactured chaos over Trump is designed to create a distraction.   Low information voters and less engaged voters want relief from the daily chaos,  and will be tempted to vote for the Dem without considering the consequences.   

You're not the only one who has figured this out @Jazzhead   This ad has been running on twitter and social media for weeks ... it finally made it to YouTube.  And to your other point,  I really don't think this election we'll see many "less engaged" voters.  The battle for some is already engaged; the rest will join and choose a side in 2020.



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[Right_in_Virginia]

This ad ran during game 7 of the World Series ....


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[Wingnut]

[conservativevoter]

I will soon be 75.  I have missed only 1 election in that time - a primary held in May 1971, when I was in labor with my third child.  So there!!!  Howsomever, I can hardly wait for the Presidential election of 2020, because my area votes in a small community church that was vastly overcrowded in the last several elections; today's primary (I live in southcentral Pennsylvania) moved at a snail's pace with about 50 voters present.  Why, some ask?  Because our ever-loving Dim Governor (Wolfe) apparently needed the voting booths for other purposes.  I came, waited in one line for a seat to sit at and fill in my write-in ballot, sat behind a small tabletop screen so no one could see my write-in ballot, then waited in another line to turn that in and have it read by a machine (!!!!!) before I could leave.  Hey, just wait until 2020.  What fun that will be!  Oy vey!!!   

[Right_in_Virginia]

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[Cyber Liberty]

I will soon be 75.  I have missed only 1 election in that time - a primary held in May 1971, when I was in labor with my third child.  So there!!!  Howsomever, I can hardly wait for the Presidential election of 2020, because my area votes in a small community church that was vastly overcrowded in the last several elections; today's primary (I live in southcentral Pennsylvania) moved at a snail's pace with about 50 voters present.  Why, some ask?  Because our ever-loving Dim Governor (Wolfe) apparently needed the voting booths for other purposes.  I came, waited in one line for a seat to sit at and fill in my write-in ballot, sat behind a small tabletop screen so no one could see my write-in ballot, then waited in another line to turn that in and have it read by a machine (!!!!!) before I could leave.  Hey, just wait until 2020.  What fun that will be!  Oy vey!!!   

This is happening all around the country.  The Dems are trying to force everybody to go to mail-in ballots that are a lot easier to steal.

[sneakypete]

    Low information voters and less engaged voters want relief from the daily chaos,  and will be tempted to vote for the Dem without considering the consequences.   

 

@Jazzhead

WHAT daily chaos? I see NONE in my day to day life,and hear nobody even discussing it until I log on to a political web site.

There is going to be some chaos after the election if one of the Dims wins,though.

[sneakypete]

The impeachment fandango may consume DC and the msm but plain people
lead real lives and are beyond fed-up w/this crap.
A real danger is they will say "the hell w/both of you" and stay home Nov/2020!!!

@Absalom

Nope. "Plain people" have no idea it is even happening,and wouldn't care if they did. It's only the political types like us that give a damn.