Author Topic: Donald Trump Allegedly Hid Behind a Tapestry to Grope a Woman at Mar-a-Lago in the Early 2000s (Read 3132 times)

Formerly Once-Ler · « **on:** October 13, 2019, 10:02:13 am »

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a29391247/donald-trump-assault-allegations-karen-johnson-all-the-presidents-women-book/

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Donald Trump's alleged transgressions against women are numerous, and as a new book reveals, they stretch back far further than we've previously realized. In All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator, journalists Barry Levine and Monique El-Faizy draw on over 100 interviews, many of them exclusive, to craft a detailed history of Trump's relationships with women, stretching back to his childhood and education as well as his rise through real estate, entertainment, and politics. What emerges from the authors' reporting is a portrait of a serial predator who hides behind wealth and institutional power to frequently harass and abuse women.

While the president has publicly faced allegations from two dozen women, this book reveals another 43 allegations of alleged inappropriate behavior, including 26 instances of unwanted sexual contact. In this exclusive excerpt from All the President's Women, Levine and El-Faizy investigate an alleged wave of unwanted touching that preceded his proposal to Melania Knauss, including a disturbing instance of groping at Mar-a-Lago. â€”Adrienne Westenfeld

more at link

Is there any doubt that GOD ALMIGHTY sent Donald J Trump to us to punish women for the apple thing. Praise Trump.

aligncare · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2019, 10:22:16 am »

Among the many here who hate Trump, @Once-Ler , your hatred of the man has distinguished you as TBRâ€™s very own prized purveyor of unintelligible gibberish.

Take heart, you are in a class by yourself!

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2019, 10:28:42 am »

Quote from: aligncare on October 13, 2019, 10:22:16 am

Among the many here who hate Trump, @Once-Ler , your hatred of the man has distinguished you as TBRâ€™s very own prized purveyor of unintelligible gibberish.

Take heart, you are in a class by yourself!

I bet I hate him less then the women he's used or Michael Cohen, and Paul Manafort.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2019, 01:26:55 pm »

You actually believe that nonsense?!

OK, try working out the mechanics of Trump's arms passing through a tapestry to grope a woman he could not see,

let alone know she would approach.

The claim is absurd on its face.

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2019, 02:03:18 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 01:26:55 pm

You actually believe that nonsense?! OK, try working out the mechanics of Trump's arms passing through a tapestry to grope a woman he could not see, let alone know she would approach. The claim is absurd on its face.

Not with President Grab 'em by the P*ssy

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2019, 02:28:25 pm »

Esquire?

aligncare · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2019, 02:44:58 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 01:26:55 pm

You actually believe that nonsense?! OK, try working out the mechanics of Trump's arms passing through a tapestry to grope a woman he could not see, let alone know she would approach. The claim is absurd on its face.

All they got are insults and dubious tales of Trump breaking the (Woke) rules of male-female behavior back in the eighties. Just enough naughty in there to incense proper Republican ladies and virtuous women everywhere.

In other words, this is part of a concerted strategy, on all frontsâ€”from every directionâ€”to damage Trump by a thousand cuts leading up to 2020.

But, Trumpâ€™s doing a fantastic job despite the weight of the entire news media, political establishment, entertainment, academia, deep state intelligence and congress arrayed against him.

But, I think Iâ€™d like to keep him around, anyway.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #7 on:** October 13, 2019, 02:52:15 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 02:03:18 pm

Not with President Grab 'em by the P*ssy

Can we count on you NEVER posting the actual quote? Asking for a friend.

corbe · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2019, 02:58:43 pm »

TTIUWP

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2019, 03:01:16 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on October 13, 2019, 02:52:15 pm

Can we count on you NEVER posting the actual quote? Asking for a friend.

What is the actual quote @Right_in_Virginia ?

Bigun · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2019, 03:03:47 pm »

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Donald Trump Allegedly Hid Behind a Tapestry to Grope a Woman at Mar-a-Lago in the Early 2000s

All people allegedly have a brain but some of them have yet to show any signs of that being true.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2019, 03:56:10 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 02:03:18 pm

Not with President Grab 'em by the P*ssy

1. So, you haven't read what Trump actually said? Took the MSM's word for it? Find a transcript and learn what his words were. It's easily found, since even I managed to find it.

2. :silly:Great!

Now, explain how Trump knew a woman he could not see would come near him

, knew where she was

, and then passed his hands and arms through a thickly woven tapestry.

The claim is ludicrously stupid.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2019, 03:57:05 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on October 13, 2019, 02:52:15 pm

Can we count on you NEVER posting the actual quote? Asking for a friend.

Ya beat me to it!!!

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:08:59 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 03:56:10 pm

1. So, you haven't read what Trump actually said? Took the MSM's word for it? Find a transcript and learn what his words were. It's easily found, since even I managed to find it.

2. :silly:Great! Now, explain how Trump knew a woman he could not see would come near him , knew where she was , and then passed his hands and arms through a thickly woven tapestry. The claim is ludicrously stupid.

I looked it up. I forgot the 'u'. sorry

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:27:17 pm »

Hasn't the "grab her by the..." meme been done to death already? Like, years ago?

Sure, it's pizzes people off just as much as it did back in '16 or so, but Shirley there exists some fresh material in '19?

It's like "Hires only the best." The only movement of a ball with the tropes is this:

jpsb · « **Reply #15 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:29:54 pm »

Quote from: aligncare on October 13, 2019, 10:22:16 am

Among the many here who hate Trump, @Once-Ler , your hatred of the man has distinguished you as TBRâ€™s very own prized purveyor of unintelligible gibberish.

Take heart, you are in a class by yourself!

240B · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:40:31 pm »

He was hiding behind the tapestry because he wanted to steal pancakes...
Not to grope women on the other side.

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:41:42 pm »

If you don't like the tapestry grope story there are 42 others to choose from.

GtHawk · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:42:51 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 10:02:13 am

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a29391247/donald-trump-assault-allegations-karen-johnson-all-the-presidents-women-book/
more at link

Is there any doubt that GOD ALMIGHTY sent Donald J Trump to us to punish women for the apple thing. Praise Trump.

Wow how could I not believe someone who who was so vilely and heinously assaulted and couldn't bare to bring herself to come forward, even after all the false accusations .........................until Trumps second Presidential campaign! No no doubts about it

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:45:02 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 04:08:59 pm

I looked it up. I forgot the 'u'. sorry

You need an explanation of the difference between second-person and first-person speech? And then an explanation of the difference between indicative mood and subjunctive mood?

For my part I need no explanation why you didn't cop-and-paste Trump's actual words.

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:51:05 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on October 13, 2019, 04:42:51 pm

Wow how could I not believe someone who who was so vilely and heinously assaulted and couldn't bare to bring herself to come forward, even after all the false accusations .........................until Trumps second Presidential campaign! No no doubts about it

Perhaps she was approached by one of these guys.

and they said 'Leave Trump alone. Forget the story,' and then they leaned around and looked at her daughter and said, 'That's a beautiful little girl. It'd be a shame if something happened to her mom.'

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2019, 04:57:21 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 04:45:02 pm

You need an explanation of the difference between second-person and first-person speech? And then an explanation of the difference between indicative mood and subjunctive mood?

Go ahead.

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For my part I need no explanation why you didn't cop-and-paste Trump's actual words.

because they are the same words I wrote.

"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the bleep. You can do anything." Does this make it better for you?

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2019, 05:14:39 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 04:57:21 pm

Go ahead.

because they are the same words I wrote.

"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the bleep. You can do anything." Does this make it better for you?

Does his uttering those words to Billy Bush make it more likely, or less likely he hid behind a tapestry to grab somebody? Just trying to keep it germane here, and out of the weeds. I know you can't be just bringing it up back at reply #4 of the thread just to serve as a reminder, and there was a greater purpose.

FeelNoPain · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2019, 05:29:00 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 13, 2019, 05:14:39 pm

Does his uttering those words to Billy Bush make it more likely, or less likely he hid behind a tapestry to grab somebody? Just trying to keep it germane here, and out of the weeds. I know you can't be just bringing it up back at reply #4 of the thread just to serve as a reminder, and there was a greater purpose.

More likely.
Only a childish, entitled, sexual degenerate would even have such a conversation. With strangers. At age 60.
Because he believes it makes him impressive in their eyes.
Just. Damn.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2019, 05:47:53 pm »

Quote from: FeelNoPain on October 13, 2019, 05:29:00 pm

More likely.
Only a childish, entitled, sexual degenerate would even have such a conversation. With strangers. At age 60.
Because he believes it makes him impressive in their eyes.
Just. Damn.

And, you see, I thought the topic of this thread is about a woman allegedly being grabbed from behind a tapestry. I guess it should really be about a quote in an interview that's been litigated ad nauseum over the past four years. But I guess I can see somebody judging it as "more likely," which was my question.

My bad.

GtHawk · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:12:17 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 04:51:05 pm

Perhaps she was approached by one of these guys.

and they said 'Leave Trump alone. Forget the story,' and then they leaned around and looked at her daughter and said, 'That's a beautiful little girl. It'd be a shame if something happened to her mom.'

Sometimes 'perhaps' is just a symptom of a type of paranoia, just to let you know there are many first rate mental health professionals that one might avail himself of. I say this as a basically Trump neutral who has a healthy skepticism of both extreme ever/never Trumpers and would give the same advice to both. And yes I am a skeptic of unsubstantiated and obvious political accusations because they cause harm to actual victims.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:16:32 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 04:57:21 pm

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"And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the bleep. You can do anything." Does this make it better for you?

IOW, Trump did not say he had grabbed a woman in that way, contrary to the claim intrinsic to your calling President Trump, "President Grab 'em by the P*ssy".

Now then, how did Trump hide behind a tapestry, know a woman he could not see (or even know it was a woman rather than a man or a Great Dane) was approaching, know where this woman/man/aardvark was to grope her/him/it, and then thrust his hands and arms through a thickly woven fabric? The claim is absurd at ludicrous speed!

FeelNoPain · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:28:49 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 13, 2019, 05:47:53 pm

And, you see, I thought the topic of this thread is about a woman allegedly being grabbed from behind a tapestry. I guess it should really be about a quote in an interview that's been litigated ad nauseum over the past four years. But I guess I can see somebody judging it as "more likely," which was my question.

My bad.

Considering Trump's body of work, not sure why tapestry shenanigans somehow cross the line of credulity.

FeelNoPain · « **Reply #28 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:32:25 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 06:16:32 pm

IOW, Trump did not say he had grabbed a woman in that way, contrary to the claim intrinsic to your calling President Trump, "President Grab 'em by the P*ssy".

Now then, how did Trump hide behind a tapestry, know a woman he could not see (or even know it was a woman rather than a man or a Great Dane) was approaching, know where this woman/man/aardvark was to grope her/him/it, and then thrust his hands and arms through a thickly woven fabric? The claim is absurd at ludicrous speed!

I agree. He wasn't President Grab 'em by the P*ssy at the time. He was Reality Show Grab 'em by the P*ssy Personality at the time.

PeteS in CA · « **Reply #29 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:44:24 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 13, 2019, 05:47:53 pm

And, you see, I thought the topic of this thread is about a woman allegedly being grabbed from behind a tapestry. I guess it should really be about a quote in an interview that's been litigated ad nauseum over the past four years. But I guess I can see somebody judging it as "more likely," which was my question.

My bad.

Mea culpa. I jumped on a Hate-Trump meme/narrative I knew was false. It was fact-checking MSM on @#$% like that and the Trump said something racist and the proven false accusations of sexual assault that reconciled me to voting Trump in 2016. All those lies told me that I liked the kind of enemies Trump had and has, all the right enemies.

aligncare · « **Reply #30 on:** October 13, 2019, 06:47:06 pm »

Abandon thread! Abandon thread!

Reality breach encountered!

All hands Abandon thread!

You have been warned.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #31 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:07:22 pm »

Quote from: FeelNoPain on October 13, 2019, 06:28:49 pm

Considering Trump's body of work, not sure why tapestry shenanigans somehow cross the line of credulity.

As other posters have pointed out, I'm not sure how the mechanics of such an affront would work. I'm thinking of PetS's post you just replied to.

That said, the "grab them by the you-know-what" trope is getting old. New material is always appreciated. George Carlin worked for, what, a half-century or so and he never lacked for fresh material. Granted. we're not professional comics, but freshness is still appreciated.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #32 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:08:53 pm »

Quote from: FeelNoPain on October 13, 2019, 06:32:25 pm

I agree. He wasn't President Grab 'em by the P*ssy at the time. He was Reality Show Grab 'em by the P*ssy Personality at the time.

Wow. The man never said "grab 'em by the .....". Find the full quote.

Sighlass · « **Reply #33 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:16:29 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on October 13, 2019, 04:42:51 pm

Wow how could I not believe someone who who was so vilely and heinously assaulted and couldn't bare to bring herself to come forward, even after all the false accusations .........................until Trumps second Presidential campaign! No no doubts about it

Why not, most the folks defending Trump spit at Roy Moore for far far far less... with ZERO proof.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #34 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:37:49 pm »

Quote from: Sighlass on October 13, 2019, 07:16:29 pm

Why not, most the folks defending Trump spit at Roy Moore for far far far less... with ZERO proof.

That fiasco really pissed me off. I've been with you about Judge Moore, and I lost friends, some who left TBR completely, over it. Good friends that I personally brought over from TOS. In fairness to POV, the best friend I lost was no Trump supporter. She would never defend Trump either.

FeelNoPain · « **Reply #35 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:55:54 pm »

Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on October 13, 2019, 07:08:53 pm

Wow. The man never said "grab 'em by the .....". Find the full quote.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html

Trump: Yeah, thatâ€™s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, Iâ€™m automatically attracted to beautiful â€” I just start kissing them. Itâ€™s like a magnet. Just kiss. I donâ€™t even wait. And when youâ€™re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab â€™em by the bleep. You can do anything.

Bush: Uh, yeah, those legs, all I can see is the legs.

roamer_1 · « **Reply #36 on:** October 13, 2019, 07:58:26 pm »

Quote from: Sighlass on October 13, 2019, 07:16:29 pm

Why not, most the folks defending Trump spit at Roy Moore for far far far less... with ZERO proof.

That's right.

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #37 on:** October 13, 2019, 09:58:29 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on October 13, 2019, 06:12:17 pm

Sometimes 'perhaps' is just a symptom of a type of paranoia, just to let you know there are many first rate mental health professionals that one might avail himself of.

@GtHawk
Thanx for your concern for my mental health. Do you know if TDS is covered by Obamacare?

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #38 on:** October 13, 2019, 10:06:59 pm »

Quote from: PeteS in CA on October 13, 2019, 06:16:32 pm

IOW, Trump did not say he had grabbed a woman in that way, contrary to the claim intrinsic to your calling President Trump, "President Grab 'em by the P*ssy".

So you're saying his name isn't President Grab 'em by the P*ssy?? I looked it up and it turn out you were right. I was wrong. Now I understand how Grab 'em by the P*ssy is different than Grab 'em by the P*ssy. Thank you for correcting my post. I'm sorry if I confused you.

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Now then, how did Trump hide behind a tapestry, know a woman he could not see (or even know it was a woman rather than a man or a Great Dane) was approaching, know where this woman/man/aardvark was to grope her/him/it, and then thrust his hands and arms through a thickly woven fabric? The claim is absurd at ludicrous speed!

You're probably right Trump's stubby porkpie fingers could never get through or around tapestry.

Don't I look dumb now. Good job @PeteS in CA

GtHawk · « **Reply #39 on:** October 13, 2019, 11:04:33 pm »

Quote from: Once-Ler on October 13, 2019, 09:58:29 pm

@GtHawk
Thanx for your concern for my mental health. Do you know if TDS is covered by Obamacare?

Sorry haven't a clue, seeing as I was never covered by the Obomination

libertybele · « **Reply #40 on:** October 14, 2019, 10:37:16 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 13, 2019, 02:28:25 pm

Esquire?

Exactly, and I declare b.s.

skeeter · « **Reply #41 on:** October 14, 2019, 10:42:13 am »

Quote from: libertybele on October 14, 2019, 10:37:16 am

Exactly, and I declare b.s.

The first question that should come to mind is why are they digging out 20 year old stories, and each so happens to target an important voting demographic.

libertybele · « **Reply #42 on:** October 14, 2019, 10:44:47 am »

Quote from: skeeter on October 14, 2019, 10:42:13 am

The first question that should come to mind is why are they digging out 20 year old stories. Each one targets an important voting demographic.

The second question that should come to mind is why with a man with his kind of money have to hide behind a tapestry? Really? Not in his personality to hide. Not in the least. Since he's been president, he hasn't hid from anyone or anything.

sneakypete · « **Reply #43 on:** October 14, 2019, 11:42:53 am »

WOW! And here I was thinking I had hot news with my report that he flaps his arms and flies around the Oval Office,while speaking in a Satanic tongue!

kidd · « **Reply #44 on:** October 14, 2019, 11:44:01 am »

Trump cheated on his beautiful wife with a skanky porn star.
This is what we have allowed to become acceptable.

There are now weekly allegations of something Trump has done wrong in the past.
The vast majority of these allegations have proven to be false.
But 19 years ago? That is very Kavanaugh-esque.

Even if you could prove it to be true (which can't be done), what will become of this news and who will even care about it?

IOW...this story gets a big old ::yawn::

sneakypete · « **Reply #45 on:** October 14, 2019, 11:49:20 am »

Quote from: jpsb on October 13, 2019, 04:29:54 pm

Among the many here who hate Trump, @Once-Ler , your hatred of the man has distinguished you as TBRâ€™s very own prized purveyor of unintelligible gibberish.

Take heart, you are in a class by yourself!

@jpsb

Once-Ler is TBR's very own Special Education member.

XenaLee · « **Reply #46 on:** October 14, 2019, 11:50:35 am »

Uhh.... I think these idiots are confusing Trump with Comey....?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334173-comey-once-tried-to-hide-among-wh-curtains-to-avoid-trump-report

Anyone with any intelligence at all knows that Trump doesn't "hide".

DCPatriot · « **Reply #47 on:** October 14, 2019, 06:34:55 pm »

Unless it involved Salma Hayek, just not believable.