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I seldom post anymore, and for those offended by this observation, I can only say you are all nice folks but.... :shrug:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-25/house-passes-bipartisan-debt-limit-budget-deal-backed-by-trump

Take a look, that other site hasen't  mentioned it, nobody here has posted more than a few comments...if this was passed with Obama's name instead Trump it would have been 25+ pages...

Are "Conservatives" the same emotional  fools as those on the left? Quite frankly I would have to say yes...

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2019, 03:16:53 am »
I posted his one yesterday: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,369771.msg2018086.html#msg2018086

Congressional Budget Deal Grows Deficit with Reckless Spending

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2019, 03:20:08 am »
Partying on the credit card is now the "conservative" standard. Spending our future into oblivion buys votes. Just a different flavor of big government.

Even the word conservative has been hijacked into the populist void absent fundamental principles all in the name of "winning".

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2019, 03:27:08 am »
Partying on the credit card is now the "conservative" standard. Spending our future into oblivion buys votes. Just a different flavor of big government.

Even the word conservative has been hijacked into the populist void absent fundamental principles all in the name of "winning".

Being an Anarchist in a "2 Party System", I have been voting Republican for years as the "Lesser of 2 Evils". At least during the "Tea Party" days there was a promise of "Limited Government". I am finding it harder and harder to decide. I may go the route of my 2 sons and vote 3rd Party from now on.

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2019, 03:29:38 am »
I posted his one yesterday: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,369771.msg2018086.html#msg2018086

Congressional Budget Deal Grows Deficit with Reckless Spending

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Certainly, the point I was trying to make rather in-artfully is is that in my view  for many the term "Conservative" is nothing more than the political team one supports....As long as our guy "wins" no need to worry about the details.. :shrug:
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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2019, 03:43:31 am »
I seldom post anymore, and for those offended by this observation, I can only say you are all nice folks but.... :shrug:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-25/house-passes-bipartisan-debt-limit-budget-deal-backed-by-trump

Take a look, that other site hasen't  mentioned it, nobody here has posted more than a few comments...if this was passed with Obama's name instead Trump it would have been 25+ pages...

Are "Conservatives" the same emotional  fools as those on the left? Quite frankly I would have to say yes...


I posted plenty the first day it was announced that Trump was making the deal.  Really makes me mad.  This is losing not winning.  It strapping my children with more and more debt.
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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 04:54:29 am »
Are "Conservatives" the same emotional  fools as those on the left? Quite frankly I would have to say yes...

Other than a scattered few  that you could probably name - yeah.

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2019, 05:57:16 am »
Why is this topic ignored? Maybe because those claiming to be conservatives here are just fanboys.
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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 06:18:24 am »
That is a good question....

I noticed that this thread was posted earlier: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,369900.0.html

I replied with:

I've noticed that no reports or statements on this "grand compromise" actually let us know HOW MUCH will actually be spent in the next two fiscal years...

They consistently report: "$320 billion above the levels set in a legislative deal to lift the debt limit that was made in 2011..."

So, readers/listeners see/hear "$320 billion"  over two years....  I am sure that many react, even subconsciously, "that doesn't sound so bad..."

The levels of duplicity and cowardice are just continuing to ramp up more and more...

And, don't get me started on my reaction to these recent Trump Tweets about it...

I see these, example below, as an insult to the intelligence of anyone supporting him....

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I am pleased to announce the House has passed our budget deal 284-149. Great for our Military and our Vets. A big thank you!

4:25 PM - 25 Jul 2019


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154533077986603008

The blatant pandering ("Great for our Military and our Vets.") is disgusting.  He makes it appear that we have a bottomless pit of $$$ to just keep spending, and we should all sing his praises because he is directing some toward the military and veterans.  Simply nauseating.

One has to believe that he is assuming his potential voters all look and behave like:


and it ended up being the last post in the thread....

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2019, 06:39:50 am »
@montanajoe

I believe a lot of people are angry, but what can we do?  I've been told by some here that this is why it's so important to vote Republican  -- why I "have to" re-elect Trump next year.    But as to Trump, if he is so concerned about runaway spending, why did he not veto the last few spending spree bills that came to his desk?  And as form the congressional Republicans we have now, why do they agree to all this spending?  Oh yes, I've heard the excuses even when Republicans controlled both houses of congress -- they "have to" agree to this spending spree in the spirit of bipartisanship or they have to agree to this other spending spree because it provides funding for the military, blah, blah, blah.

And then there are some who say we have to replace the liberal Republicans in congress with more "conservative" Republicans.  Well, as has already been pointed out here, the word "conservative" has been redefined and hijacked by populist factions.  It no longer means fiscally responsible anymore.  Sometimes I wonder if it ever did. 

Then if you do get a Republican candidate who promises to reign in spending -- trust me, if and when he/she is elected, that promise of fiscal responsibility will be forgotten a half minute after he/she takes office.

Bottom line is that no one in DC truly cares about all this spending.  They are going to keep on spending till the well runs dry.  They are only hopeful that the well dries up long after they leave office so they can all collect their handsome pensions and benefits for years to come.

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2019, 01:57:17 pm »
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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2019, 04:53:15 pm »
Want to know what offends me?  People who change the titles of articles when they post them, because it messes up our already poorly functioning "Search" feature.  Especially when the modified title trashes TBR.

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Well excsusee meeeee

I forgot that you Trump guys, like your God, are quite thin skinned .... :whistle:

The article was referenced to point out the fact that a "Trump Conservative" cares little about budgets..but you carry on....and thanks for the reminder as to why I seldom post.... :shrug:




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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2019, 04:55:36 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Well excsusee meeeee

I forgot that you Trump guys, like your God, are quite thin skinned .... :whistle:

The article was referenced to point out the fact that a "Trump Conservative" cares little about budgets..but you carry on....and thanks for the reminder as to why I seldom post.... :shrug:

I'm a "Trump guy" now?  No, I am an Admin of this Forum reminding you to not change the published titles of articles.

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2019, 05:12:44 pm »
@montanajoe

I believe a lot of people are angry, but what can we do?  I've been told by some here that this is why it's so important to vote Republican  -- why I "have to" re-elect Trump next year.    But as to Trump, if he is so concerned about runaway spending, why did he not veto the last few spending spree bills that came to his desk?  And as form the congressional Republicans we have now, why do they agree to all this spending?  Oh yes, I've heard the excuses even when Republicans controlled both houses of congress -- they "have to" agree to this spending spree in the spirit of bipartisanship or they have to agree to this other spending spree because it provides funding for the military, blah, blah, blah.

And then there are some who say we have to replace the liberal Republicans in congress with more "conservative" Republicans.  Well, as has already been pointed out here, the word "conservative" has been redefined and hijacked by populist factions.  It no longer means fiscally responsible anymore.  Sometimes I wonder if it ever did. 

Then if you do get a Republican candidate who promises to reign in spending -- trust me, if and when he/she is elected, that promise of fiscal responsibility will be forgotten a half minute after he/she takes office.

Bottom line is that no one in DC truly cares about all this spending.  They are going to keep on spending till the well runs dry.  They are only hopeful that the well dries up long after they leave office so they can all collect their handsome pensions and benefits for years to come.

I haven't read the bill, only the media reporting of the bill.  It does seem that he is allowed to take $$ to finally complete the wall. If he were to veto it, I think he would be hard pressed to ask for additional $$ for border security?

No, not thrilled with increasing debt as from my understanding it adds another $10Trillion.  It is a shame that Paul's amendments to the budget were shot down.  Nothing even close to a balanced budget.  **nononono*
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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2019, 05:34:14 pm »

Hello from up north @montanajoe . I miss seeing you hereabouts. Hope the summer is treating you right.

Four watermelons for me so far... Two big barn dances, and a bonfire and tailgates thing down on the river... Still green and vibrant, so hopefully no smoke this august.  :0001:

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Good to hear from you, summer going well even if my work has been taking me to Bozeman and Billings a few days a month now, to damn many people over there for me.

Getting pretty hot and dry down here,  looks like the fire season has started, didn't get any smoke from that Bannock fire yet, but been having afternoon lightening storms with little rain so that's not good..

I'll have zucchini next month in case you need any... :laugh: but I'm to high to grow watermelons.... :shrug:

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Re: House Passes Bipartisan Debt-Limit, Budget Deal Backed By Trump
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2019, 05:35:45 pm »
I seldom post anymore, and for those offended by this observation, I can only say you are all nice folks but.... :shrug:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-25/house-passes-bipartisan-debt-limit-budget-deal-backed-by-trump

Take a look, that other site hasen't  mentioned it, nobody here has posted more than a few comments...if this was passed with Obama's name instead Trump it would have been 25+ pages...

Are "Conservatives" the same emotional  fools as those on the left? Quite frankly I would have to say yes...

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