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Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« on: July 01, 2019, 08:33:24 pm »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nike-nixes-betsy-ross-flag-sneaker-after-colin-kaepernick-intervenes-11562024126

Nike Inc. is yanking a U.S.A.-themed sneaker featuring an early American flag after NFL star-turned-activist Colin Kaepernick told the company it shouldn’t sell a shoe with a symbol that he and others consider offensive (...)

(excerpt. The article is paywalled, but the excerpt pretty much says everything you need to know.)
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2019, 08:49:53 pm »
I'm rather shocked Nike even considered this in the first place.  :shrug:
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2019, 09:11:27 pm »
Talk about another one that got on my last nerve from the onset.....
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 05:38:54 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 01, 2019, 08:49:53 pm
I'm rather shocked Nike even considered this in the first place.  :shrug:

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I am surprised their Chinese workers knew what an original American flag looked like.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 09:34:59 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 02, 2019, 05:38:54 am
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I am surprised their Chinese workers knew what an original American flag looked like.

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Me too.  We once got a beach towel on a cruise that was made in China.  It had an American flag with 15 stripes....
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 10:07:45 am »
Arizona governor says they're pulling tax incentives for Nike after canceling American flag shoes
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-governor-says-theyre-pulling-tax-incentives-for-nike-after-canceling-american-flag-shoes
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 10:33:30 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on July 02, 2019, 10:07:45 am
Arizona governor says they're pulling tax incentives for Nike after canceling American flag shoes
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-governor-says-theyre-pulling-tax-incentives-for-nike-after-canceling-american-flag-shoes

Interesting.  I wonder what financial incentives we were offering Nike in the first place?
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 10:45:13 am »
Quote from: mystery-ak on July 02, 2019, 10:07:45 am
Arizona governor says they're pulling tax incentives for Nike after canceling American flag shoes
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-governor-says-theyre-pulling-tax-incentives-for-nike-after-canceling-american-flag-shoes

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NO company that does business with China should get any tax breaks.

Or grant money,either.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 11:09:02 am »
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 11:10:08 am »
Hard to comprehend why Nike lets this has-been have so much influence. He was a mediocre QB and hasn't been employed as a football player for what, three years? Yet they listen to him.  :shrug:
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 11:23:07 am »
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Hard to comprehend why Nike lets this has-been have so much influence.

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Not really. The vast majority of their customers are black. I think anyone can figure it out from there.

There used to be an old saying that goes "monkey see,monkey do" that would apply in this situation,but heads would explode if you said it in public,even though there was and is nothing racial about it.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2019, 01:30:05 pm »
Cruz vows never to buy Nike products again after 'Betsy Ross flag' sneaker canceled
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/451369-ted-cruz-vows-never-to-buy-nike-products-again-after-company-cancels-betsy
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 01:40:16 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on July 02, 2019, 01:30:05 pm
Cruz vows never to buy Nike products again after 'Betsy Ross flag' sneaker canceled
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/451369-ted-cruz-vows-never-to-buy-nike-products-again-after-company-cancels-betsy

Come on Ted.  Nike has been on a left wing binge for 30 years, and you're just now boycotting?   What's next?  No more Ben and Jerry's either?
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 03:15:34 pm »
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Interesting.  I wonder what financial incentives we were offering Nike in the first place?

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I am wondering why they allowed ANY financial incentives to Nike to start with. After all,they moved production to China.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 03:40:34 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 02, 2019, 03:15:34 pm
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I am wondering why they allowed ANY financial incentives to Nike to start with. After all,they moved production to China.

I wonder too. First I'd heard of it.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2019, 04:08:18 pm »
Only had one pair of Nikes ages ago.  They seemed to fit in the store, but as I walked around in them, they hurt like hell.  Haven't bought Nikes since. 

Boycotting should be easy for me.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2019, 04:15:31 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 02, 2019, 11:23:07 am
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Not really. The vast majority of their customers are black. I think anyone can figure it out from there.

There used to be an old saying that goes "monkey see,monkey do" that would apply in this situation,but heads would explode if you said it in public,even though there was and is nothing racial about it.




I think you are right @sneakypete .  I don't understand it...especially from a business stand point. But there are a lot of things I don't understand.

I don't buy name brand, expensive tennis shoes, so I don't know who is buying what. But even if they are in the bargain bin where I shop I'll pass them by.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2019, 05:11:43 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on July 02, 2019, 04:08:18 pm
Only had one pair of Nikes ages ago.  They seemed to fit in the store, but as I walked around in them, they hurt like hell.  Haven't bought Nikes since. 

Boycotting should be easy for me.

Well, as far as I know, Nike doesn't make sh*tkickers so...  :shrug:
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2019, 05:22:06 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 02, 2019, 05:11:43 pm
Well, as far as I know, Nike doesn't make sh*tkickers so...  :shrug:




Nope...I don't think so either. But they are real purty.  happy77
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2019, 05:48:46 pm »
Nike is dead to me.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2019, 06:07:47 pm »
Pathetic.  Nike, that is.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2019, 06:14:39 pm »
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Nike Inc. is yanking a U.S.A.-themed sneaker featuring an early American flag after NFL star-turned-activist Colin Kaepernick told the company it shouldn’t sell a shoe with a symbol that he and others consider offensive (...)

Good.  I would hate the thought of an anti-American, Portland, OR-based company trying to sell shoes manufactured in Vietnamese sweat shops by pimping the American flag which their chief spokesman refuses to stand for.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2019, 06:35:22 pm »
I buy all my sneakers at discount places (DFW, Shoe Dept., etc.), and usually get New Balance, but my marathoner husband has particular requirements in a running shoe. For decades, the Nike Pegasus was his shoe. He used to work for Nike, he road-tested the model, and it always was the perfect shoe for him. He ran dozens of marathons in it. In recent years, he's found that it doesn't perform like it used to. It quickly breaks down (which, of course, causes injuries). In other words, even one of the company's premier shoe lines now is junk.

He's switched to adidas.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2019, 06:48:09 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 02, 2019, 06:35:22 pm
I buy all my sneakers at discount places (DFW, Shoe Dept., etc.)

Yep KMarche for me. Spalding hightops most of my life.
Same with lightweight hikers, though I don't have a brand... It sure ain't Nike.
And same for actual hikers... Always liked Dexter best, But now running Hermann Survivors.
And same for construction boots.

All of that came from KMart.

The serious stuff, cowboy boots, mocs, muks... That's different.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2019, 06:54:28 pm »
It has been reported that one in five Caucasians own Nikes, while three in five Black Americans do likewise.

...works out to be about the same number.

Nike is no different than the owner of the Red Hen Restaurant in the Virginia/DC area...who has made a conscious decision to thumb their nose at increasing sales and instead cater to a specific demographic.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2019, 06:58:47 pm »
Quote from: berdie on July 02, 2019, 05:22:06 pm

Nope...I don't think so either. But they are real purty.  happy77

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They have to stay out on the porch with the dog.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2019, 07:49:55 pm »
Arizona Gov Makes Major Announcement After Nike Pulls American Flag Shoe At Colin Kaepernick's Behest

By Amanda Prestigiacomo     |     July 2, 2019

On Tuesday, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, announced that the state would be withdrawing financial incentives promised to Nike over the company dropping an American flag-style shoe, reportedly at the behest of former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

"The Betsy Ross Flag" edition shoe was kicked to the curb by the athletic gear giant after Kaepernick complained about the new sneakers, allegedly calling them “offensive.” The former QB, who famously took a knee during the playing of the national anthem before NFL games, claiming to protest police brutality and racial injustices, signed a multi-million dollar sponsorship deal with Nike last year.

“Words cannot express my disappointment at this terrible decision. I am embarrassed for Nike,” Gov. Ducey posted in a string of tweets on Tuesday morning. “Nike is an iconic American brand and American company. This country, our system of government and free enterprise have allowed them to prosper and flourish.”

~snip~

“Nike has made its decision, and now we’re making ours,” announced Ducey. "I’ve ordered the Arizona Commerce Authority to withdraw all financial incentive dollars under their discretion that the State was providing for the company to locate here. Arizona’s economy is doing just fine without Nike. We don’t need to suck up to companies that consciously denigrate our nation’s history.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49076/arizona-gov-makes-major-announcement-after-nike-amanda-prestigiacomo
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2019, 01:33:28 am »
It's interesting, in former days, putting a flag on a shoe would have almost been disrespectful... but times have changed. A former member of the air force has designed an American flag sneaker. So, that may be available.

Screw Nike, I mean, they are the company started by Browderman (?) and Prefontaine was part of the scenario back then. What a great heritage to throw this away. Idiotic.
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« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2019, 07:54:33 am »
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Screw Nike, I mean, they are the company started by Browderman (?) and Prefontaine was part of the scenario back then. What a great heritage to throw this away. Idiotic.
Former U. of Oregon runner Phil Knight founded the company, with help from Bill Bowerman, longtime UO coach, who invented the "waffle" sole on his wife's waffle iron. Knight is a certified loon.
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« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2019, 11:29:06 am »
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Former U. of Oregon runner Phil Knight founded the company, with help from Bill Bowerman, longtime UO coach, who invented the "waffle" sole on his wife's waffle iron. Knight is a certified loon.

Maybe his wife brained him for ruining her waffle iron?  I know I'd get smacked pretty hard if I did that.
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« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2019, 11:37:15 am »
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Maybe his wife brained him for ruining her waffle iron?  I know I'd get smacked pretty hard if I did that.
You'd think so. What woman would want melted burnt rubber all over her kitchen appliances? Eww.
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2019, 11:42:48 am »
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You'd think so. What woman would want melted burnt rubber all over her kitchen appliances? Eww.

Yeah, if it's not Teflon it's toast.   22222frying pan
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Re: Nike Nixes ‘Betsy Ross Flag’ Sneaker After Colin Kaepernick Intervenes
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2019, 11:48:49 am »
Ken Jones   @sxdoc

.@Nike recalls ABOLITIONIST Betsy Ross sneakers for 4th of July. Nike Has 500 Facilities, 5 In USA, With 1 Million SLAVE Laborers In Overseas Sweatshops. Only 6K US.  Virtually all it’s shoes made overseas in China, Indonesia, Vietnam. #FactsMatter #PatriotsAwakened
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