The logic of reparations

[rangerrebew]

June 21, 2019
The logic of reparations
By Tim Froehlke

Over the years, the subject of reparation payments to the descendants of slaves has come and gone. Recently the subject has received new life from a Democratic Congress. It is somewhat understandable in that politicians (especially Democratic politicians) have long made use of the tendency of voters to respond favorably to the possibility they could get free money.

The legal theory behind reparations is that if a person had suffered an economic loss as a result of the action of another person, he would be able to seek a civil remedy. Critical to this process is the measurement of the degree of economic loss the first person experienced.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/the_logic_of_reparations.html

[goatprairie]

Here's the "logic" for reparations proponents........"hundreds of years ago somebody who looked like you did something bad to somebody who looked like me....gimme your money!"

[Smokin Joe]

Hmmmmm.

So those who were relieved by government edict of property worth considerable sums are not entitled to compensation (having the farm burned, crops seized, sons lynched, and being taxed out of the land on top of the aforementioned loss just wasn't enough), are due no compensation for that loss? Seems a that's a taking on the part of the Federal Government.

The solution to that is to try to buy votes from darker skinned people with your light skinned people's money more directly, without all that HHS and State paperwork.
Move on, America, some things can't be fixed.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but it is a sure thing that two hundred, two million, two hundred million wrongs aren't any more right than the first wrong. Creating a new class of victims is the socialist/communist way to level the playing field, essentially making sure everyone is robbed.

[Victoria33]

@rangerrebew
@mystery-ak
@Smokin Joe

Two true stories that show the color of your skin matters:

1.  About a year ago, we had two priests at our Catholic church.  One was a white Priest who was the main one.  The other priest was in training.  He was Spanish.  I worked with him to improve his English.  This is his story:

He was our Priest who went to hospitals to see our Catholic members there.  One hospital was in a high class area, a white area.  Every time he went to that hospital, on the way he was stopped by a policeman, each time a different one.  Each time he was stopped, the cop saw he was a Priest, and let him go.  This story troubled me that the color of your skin in an upscale area meant you must be up to no good, so stop you. 

2.  In about 2000, one of our sheriff's deputies who was black, told this story:
He had a fancy sports car.  When he went to Houston, he was on a tollway, and every time he was stopped by police.  He said since he was black, the cops thought he must have stolen that car, that he could not afford it.

I suppose colors of skin will never be equal.

[roamer_1]

Two true stories that show the color of your skin matters:

1.  About a year ago, we had two priests at our Catholic church.  One was a white Priest who was the main one.  The other priest was in training.  He was Spanish.  I worked with him to improve his English.  This is his story:

He was our Priest who went to hospitals to see our Catholic members there.  One hospital was in a high class area, a white area.  Every time he went to that hospital, on the way he was stopped by a policeman, each time a different one.  Each time he was stopped, the cop saw he was a Priest, and let him go.  This story troubled me that the color of your skin in an upscale area meant you must be up to no good, so stop you. 

2.  In about 2000, one of our sheriff's deputies who was black, told this story:
He had a fancy sports car.  When he went to Houston, he was on a tollway, and every time he was stopped by police.  He said since he was black, the cops thought he must have stolen that car, that he could not afford it.

I suppose colors of skin will never be equal.

@Victoria33

Nah. I am a pretty rough lookin hillbilly boy. I am also a better than fair mechanic.
I have been pulled over more than once because I sure as hell don't fit the car I have out on a test drive.

Can't blame a cop for having radar. Most of the time it's a good thing.

[goatprairie]

@rangerrebew
@mystery-ak
@Smokin Joe

Two true stories that show the color of your skin matters:

1.  About a year ago, we had two priests at our Catholic church.  One was a white Priest who was the main one.  The other priest was in training.  He was Spanish.  I worked with him to improve his English.  This is his story:

He was our Priest who went to hospitals to see our Catholic members there.  One hospital was in a high class area, a white area.  Every time he went to that hospital, on the way he was stopped by a policeman, each time a different one.  Each time he was stopped, the cop saw he was a Priest, and let him go.  This story troubled me that the color of your skin in an upscale area meant you must be up to no good, so stop you. 

2.  In about 2000, one of our sheriff's deputies who was black, told this story:
He had a fancy sports car.  When he went to Houston, he was on a tollway, and every time he was stopped by police.  He said since he was black, the cops thought he must have stolen that car, that he could not afford it.

I suppose colors of skin will never be equal.

And then there's the fact that blacks commit crimes way out of proportion to their numbers. Which is why many leos might suspect them of committing crimes.
Is it fair to the blacks who don't commit crimes? No, but facts are stubborn things which should overrule emotions.
There was a commotion a few years back in New Jersey where the local chapter of the NAACP complained about blacks being stopped more for traffic violations out of proportion to their numbers.
So the state conducted a test to see if whites and blacks committed equal proportions of traffic violations.
The study found blacks committing appreciably more traffic violations per capita than other ethnic groups. Which is why they were stopped more than other groups.
Facts are stubborn things.

[Bill Cipher]

Well, if they can get a time-machine, they’re welcome to go back in time and sue the old slave-owners.  Otherwise, too bad. 

[Sanguine]

@Victoria33

Nah. I am a pretty rough lookin hillbilly boy. I am also a better than fair mechanic.
I have been pulled over more than once because I sure as hell don't fit the car I have out on a test drive.

Can't blame a cop for having radar. Most of the time it's a good thing.

Yeah, my long-haired (veteran and law-abiding) brother used to get pulled over all the time. 

[Smokin Joe]

@rangerrebew
@mystery-ak
@Smokin Joe

Two true stories that show the color of your skin matters:

1.  About a year ago, we had two priests at our Catholic church.  One was a white Priest who was the main one.  The other priest was in training.  He was Spanish.  I worked with him to improve his English.  This is his story:

He was our Priest who went to hospitals to see our Catholic members there.  One hospital was in a high class area, a white area.  Every time he went to that hospital, on the way he was stopped by a policeman, each time a different one.  Each time he was stopped, the cop saw he was a Priest, and let him go.  This story troubled me that the color of your skin in an upscale area meant you must be up to no good, so stop you. 

2.  In about 2000, one of our sheriff's deputies who was black, told this story:
He had a fancy sports car.  When he went to Houston, he was on a tollway, and every time he was stopped by police.  He said since he was black, the cops thought he must have stolen that car, that he could not afford it.

I suppose colors of skin will never be equal.

You, of course, are right. People who are trained to spot things 'out of pattern' will see people or situations they find unusual in any particular context. Much like a live white guy in the 'black part' of town (who MUST be dealing drugs or otherwise up to no good or completely lost and in need of navigational assistance).
Anything which breaks an accepted pattern will be scrutinized or investigated. People tend to group together (birds of a feather and all that), people who don't fit the pattern and accepted norms for an area stand out. We investigate anomalies, not what we consider normal, whether scientist or policeman.

[roamer_1]

Yeah, my long-haired (veteran and law-abiding) brother used to get pulled over all the time.

Heh. Give me another month and a pair of sheep shears and I'll be starting to look closer to what y'all would probably call 'normal'... It's already too hot for all this hair, and it is starting to get in my way. 

But yeah... same kinda thing. except the veteran part, and probably not quite as law abiding, but close enough where it counts...

[roamer_1]

People tend to group together (birds of a feather and all that), people who don't fit the pattern and accepted norms for an area stand out. We investigate anomalies, not what we consider normal, whether scientist or policeman.

Yep. Same sort of thing as how I can spot a tourist at a hundred yards or so... longer with my glasses.
That aspect of a LEO's job is kinda lost in all this racism crap. Of course he's profiling. It's what they do.
They used to profile me all the time... And sometimes they were right.

[goatprairie]

Yep. Same sort of thing as how I can spot a tourist at a hundred yards or so... longer with my glasses.
That aspect of a LEO's job is kinda lost in all this racism crap. Of course he's profiling. It's what they do.
They used to profile me all the time... And sometimes they were right.

Some years ago I had to drive my crazy ex fiancee away from her parents in the middle of the night. She had a psychotic episode and wouldn't stop until I took her away from elderly parents who she was accusing of trying to physically harm her.  Totally bullsh*t, but like I said she was crazy.
As we drove through some ritzy suburbs of Milwaukee, a cop car got right on my tail and never left for several miles until I exited his town. What was I doing driving through his town at two thirty in the morning?
He didn't stop me, but I drove very slowly and made sure I didn't go one mile over the speed limit. That's what cops do when you enter their domain and they don't know what you're up to.

[roamer_1]

Totally bullsh*t, but like I said she was crazy.

I heard that... I am naturally attracted to a little too much crazy... Which is good if it's the right kind... I am the first to admit I like my ruts, and nothing gets me out of em like that kinda shorted-out spontaneity a crazy woman gets now and then. I like that. But then she pokes a knife in your back while you ain't looking, and you've gotta throw her back. 

He didn't stop me, but I drove very slowly and made sure I didn't go one mile over the speed limit. That's what cops do when you enter their domain and they don't know what you're up to.

YEP. And there ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Wingnut]

Yeah, my long-haired (veteran and law-abiding) brother used to get pulled over all the time.

Damn Hippie!   

Man I could tell you some stories about being pulled over by the cops for the way I looked or for the car I was driving in Austin and in San Antonio.    Most times the cars were not even stolen.  And that one time it was just an ex with an "axe" to grind because I slept with her sister and her best friend.  Go figure. 

[LegalAmerican]

  16 TRILLION dollars spent in 2010 on welfare.

 Barbary coast.  Millions of  white Christians were held as SLAVES by black muslims. Branded, tortured, raped, castrated, beheaded, beaten.  Chained, sold.  Do I get reparations for my relatives from blacks? 

Black business men had WHITE & black slaves.  CIRQUE..a black man, was a black slave trader.  Anthony Johnson, a black man, sued to keep his indentured person, a slave for life. He won. He would not let the man leave, when his time was up.  Johnson created slavery in USA as we know it today.  African tribes men, SOLD their slaves to traders, otherwise they would have been killed. 

Trillions of dollars in WELFARE is not enough?   I'll make a deal.  Receive your phony  reparation's , but NO MORE WELFARE FOR YOU OR FAMILY MEMBERS THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. 

[LegalAmerican]

And then there's the fact that blacks commit crimes way out of proportion to their numbers. Which is why many leos might suspect them of committing crimes.
Is it fair to the blacks who don't commit crimes? No, but facts are stubborn things which should overrule emotions.
There was a commotion a few years back in New Jersey where the local chapter of the NAACP complained about blacks being stopped more for traffic violations out of proportion to their numbers.
So the state conducted a test to see if whites and blacks committed equal proportions of traffic violations.
The study found blacks committing appreciably more traffic violations per capita than other ethnic groups. Which is why they were stopped more than other groups.
Facts are stubborn things.

And there you have it.  YES.  ^ 5.

[Wingnut]

Damn Hippie!   

Man I could tell you some stories about being pulled over by the cops for the way I looked or for the car I was driving in Austin and in San Antonio.    Most times the cars were not even stolen.  And that one time it was just an ex with an "axe" to grind because I slept with her sister and her best friend.  Go figure.

Just to clarify, I didn't sleep with them at the same time.   God help me if I am lying I am dying...and it was not for trying .

[roamer_1]

Just to clarify, I didn't sleep with them at the same time.

Not that you know of anyway. I know how that goes.

[Wingnut]

Not that you know of anyway. I know how that goes.

Yep..  Why does anyone do anything?- I don't know, I was really drunk at the time...

[goatprairie]

I heard that... I am naturally attracted to a little too much crazy... Which is good if it's the right kind... I am the first to admit I like my ruts, and nothing gets me out of em like that kinda shorted-out spontaneity a crazy woman gets now and then. I like that. But then she pokes a knife in your back while you ain't looking, and you've gotta throw her back. 

YEP. And there ain't nothing wrong with that.

Funny you mentioned knives. She started picking them up and threatening to kill herself. Or me.
I had to take a butcher knife out of her hand one time. She actually called the cops ON ME!!!, and I had to do some fast talking to the police. But it was she who ended up getting hauled off to jail.
I broke that relationship up real quick before I woke up with a knife sticking out of my chest.

[roamer_1]

I broke that relationship up real quick before I woke up with a knife sticking out of my chest.

Yep... I get it... That's why you have to throw her back...
You're preachin to the choir.

 

[roamer_1]

Yep..  Why does anyone do anything?- I don't know, I was really drunk at the time...

Yup. I get it.
Just raise your hands, lift your arms to heaven, and thank God it wasn't a dude.
and in that, have the satisfaction that it could have been worse.

Then plug in some quarters, put on some Jimmy Buffet, and find the rest of the bottle in the pillows somewhere.

See? I told you I get it.